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updating both my my laptop decided to do a windows update in my ideal time once again and my Chrome just decided to take a poop yeah that was odd ah okay maybe a research decoding error that sounds perfectly normal that's totally normal okay so our first topic for today Windows updates now at 42 percent completion I have been advised not to turn off my PC because this will take a while Kyleigh your thoughts um you know Paul I think I think this has been a long time coming we didn't really have any signs there were no warning signs of this update happening it wasn't very nice to to sort of get a warning at first or maybe even opt out of an update right now would have been great if you could just postpone that update you know what where these updates coming from what do they want should we fear me maybe they'll give us that information and a future update I would not be surprised at this point but we also have other news articles to talk about that have breaking news still at 42% oh it just jumped to 50 we are now at 51 people 1 ok well in and we went back down to 45 we are we are now we are now on updating that has never happened we are now just went from 51 to 45 I've never seen it go backwards neither have I does that mean it was it's rolling back there an hour 46 your your fake news story just became real news your your half of the show has been so packed first three minutes so worth the wait guys alright let's dive into our first segment here our first segment is a new which is a sort of new segment brand new segment like never we've never even had a segment that's remotely close to this we've never talked about stories anything like these stories no absolutely because apparently there are these things called leaks leaks and so we thought maybe knowing what leaks are would give a devote a whole segment to the leak base segment leak based see you can tell how familiarized we are with leaks by the graphics we put in our new lower thirds so I really like the new lariat lower third scale put that together why thank you very much Paul this is what I do in my free time that's that's what some of my finest work actually and we're finally done with Windows updates at least for the first round will see this restart quick of splash beat so this first article is from video cards and in case you guys were honestly curious this is about like actual leaks not the vegetable like like scandalous top-secret Snowden leaks okay glad we understand cpu-z screenshots were leaked leaked maybe just one speak of a threat refer 2990 WX as that's interesting what is that I think this is the first time we've heard of that skew here on the show but it's reporting 32 cores and 64 threads which we have heard uh in the past several rumors have have tried to hey well no that's that's not a rumor AMD has kind of a nerdy so ok that's confirmed back on sheet X ok that surrender for to will feature a 32 core variant I see I knew it was confirmed to me but I just so paranoid as ever that is in the public dropping something that's not ok alright so we can release a that at least a 32 core and 64 thread makes sense as far as the model number we don't really know that's that's all kind of leak and rumor based it is running at 4.1 gigahertz or at least it seems to be at this very moment the screenshot was taken and this is in precision boost mode so it could very well just be one core that's showing a 4.3 Hertz clock speed we don't know what the W stands for there doesn't seem to be much light shed on that point in this article we do know that this was being tested on MSI's X 399 any G creation which is a new X 399 motherboard surely developed purely for this launch of second gen thread Ripper how do we know that it's just listed in the article apparently this is just coming from the source who who leaked this so it's just as uncertain as the leak itself but take it with a grain of salt people any speculation as to what the W might stand for in WX feel free to let us know please please feel free to discuss and chat we will be sure to 2990 WX 2990 WX wax wax what's Wix Oh God Wix has gotten ahold of a and B now ambhi's even doing their crappy infomercial slant wanks wanks that's that's a whole different thing called we can that's a whole different segment entirely that's a different show chat suggesting different channel wookiee watergate wicked watermelon what what watermelon whiskey I like that one why is it why isn't the Andy wizened thread ripper WX why is it not what o so many great theories in chat I'm so glad I asked you guys divided Windows Update just disables every critic connected peripherals and you have to you have to use use the Tobii eye tracking now for all of your desktop browsing needs hands-free that's the way that's the future cursor is now controlled by your eyes alright so let's move on to the other leak here leak leak number two from hot hardware this is also about second gen thread Ripper but also includes the Intel Core i 9 8 core cpu known to us as the 9900 k there's a Cinebench throwdown leak here so it's actually kind of comparing both second gen thread upper and a core ID now it's interesting here is that the model name if you look in the the Cinebench stores thread ripper 2990 x there's no w so if if one of these are correct well it just shows that only one of these leaks can be correct it's either 2990 X or 2990 WX or it's a third option that isn't listed here and they're both fake we don't know but it does confirm that this 2990 whatever that is gonna be a 32 core processor thanks Microsoft I was hoping to have a Microsoft edge link on my desktop oh Jesus they just planted it there didn't it yeah laughing that system tray at least at any rate some pretty impressive scores if this is all to be true $63.99 is the top scorer at four point one two gigahertz on the 32 core rise in threaded processor i'm interestingly 4.2 gigahertz when they went when it was running at that speed is actually returning the lowest score at 60 109 article speculating that this could be due to some thermal throttling gravely maybe inadequate cooling things of that nature which makes perfect sense we also have the 8 core 16th red 9900 k or what we would assume would be the I 999 hundred K here it's listed as the CPU zero zero zero zero which is potentially in the indicative of an engineering sample that perhaps hasn't gotten the latest micro code update and so it's just not being recognized by the software that's perfectly reasonable explanation at 20 212 again these are multi-threaded scores so of course an 8 core CPU is not really gonna compete much with a 32 core behemoths like the 2nd gen right over here so um what else can we say what else can we really say to your question Kyle other than nothing we will all will be revealed hopefully within a few weeks maybe a month or so both on the team red and team blue camps when they inevitably release these highly anticipated CPU families I thought I thought it Computex that AMD said dhurpa 2 is coming in july or august i thought it was one of those ok so yeah it's memories and I remember it's kind of fuzzy so I don't I would just assume a lot of the leaked websites I've been reading there's like it's coming in August it's coming it seems like a lot of stuff is coming in August again I haven't really heard anything straight from the horse's mouth but we and we can always help it makes sense to I feel like audist is a very popular time for big launches like this because it's right before the huge holiday rush things like you know Black Friday and Christmas obviously so it's it's a good guess the very least but thank you hot hardware for that article and let's talk about our final at third leak for today which is also from a hot hardware they were just hot with the leaks today pixel three XL I know me and Paul are probably interested in this maybe more than most because we're both pixel owners and we are very happy with our pixel experience thus far this one is clearly leaking the clearly white model with four gigs of RAM and 64 gigs of storage as indicated by some of the details that you can see in the leaked pictures here there's two pictures one of the front screen and one of the back from the front piece screen looks all blurry and pixelated kappa i think that's obviously a manufacturing defect death is definitely not a manufacturing defect paul that is clearly someone who's blurred out the the information there because this is after all a leak hence the segment leaks and we also have those interesting some great branding on that segment so far i know i'm killing it right now there is a display knotch on the front of the phone sort of conforming to a lot of the other popular flagship phones the iPhone X and others not just stupid I hate the match I I don't mind the knotch I think I think the notch is easy to hate because it's different and new and people have change but you know what here in natural over you not sure and then we've got the bottom of the screen which looks to be a bit more filled out there's not as big of a bar that this is a pixel to here I can I can turn my phone on and make sure there's no super important information here but there are demonstrations definitely there's definitely a big black bar at the bottom here that's just kind of got a speaker and they've forgotten that for for gone that with more screen real estate which I like no no obvious details on you know the screen resolution or anything but does look like it has a downward firing speaker or at least the bottom mounted speaker the notch it's got dual facing cameras this is like a great facing speaker it does look like a front facing I would prefer the front space facing the speaker's I don't like the bottom firing this is that's that's one thing I don't like about the original pixel itself is the speakers on the bottom yeah it works okay if you can cup it right and Kenna door deflects so in specific scenarios it's fine but overall I prefer the front facing I ever the HTC One just the front facing speakers have always made the most sense to me I actually don't mind either or I feel like if you have the front facing speakers you're right it's it's going facing it's going straight to your ears but if it's a downward firing speaker I personally don't mind it because the way that I hold my phone usually usually causes the the sound to sort of echo in my hand a little bit call me crazy but it kind of just dis cupping the bottom a little bit kind of creates a more echoey effect which you can't do on a front facing speaker and sometimes it can help project if you're you know showing a clip to some friends or something like that but I think Paul the article says downward firing so if they are right about that then that could just be the the mouth of the microphone for when you're making phone calls but I don't this this line right here looks to me like the like it looks exactly like this neck like the speaker on yours right and my wife's and so this yeah that must be the microphone on the bottom most likely right I don't know but you bring up a good point because there's also no picture of the bottom of the phone so how would the article author know that it was a downward fireman all the points that bring up are good except that one you're right I didn't respond the way you asked about at all but I mean I think it's it's safe to say that this is all still up in the air because some of the looks of these pictures experts have weighed in and said this very much looks like a prototype and these features could very well change nothing is sentenced don't at this point this is just a really early perhaps prototype sample that images of now and all this information was leaked on the leaked segments on the leaked segments you heard it here first unless you've read any of these articles before you watch this thanks for watching leaked yeah you have a leak on us have three leaks on us Ackley hope you have a long hard leak so okay good stuff about the pixel in the back of it you know there's a camera cool oh is that so is there anything else too the other thing is that there's there's a camera on the back as well and a fingerprint scanner also in the middle on the back which you know revolutionary I like and that's it that's all for leaks yeah you can expect the pixel three to arrive and the pixel three XL to arrive sometime in October of this year very exciting and that is late you have just been leaked on that's that's that's the just the ending slogan we're gonna end in the show and we just took a statement with and you just know we just know yeah you've been leaked on I guess that makes more sense when you try it when you're trying to make something like that it has to make some sense right like and we just took a leak on you and we just took a leak on you that might be a little on the nose very like yeah - okay say or how about how about we start the 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lost 500 really we need to transition we're gonna gracefully transition though from this segue apology into a brand new segment the Kyle came up with actually have a pretty damn good idea what which is like a simple idea that I'm surprised super idea I think we didn't think upstairs so you've all seen Pitt my PC where people send in pictures and we critique them and tell them how to make them look prettier it's a very good segment this segment is pimp my PC part picker list wait we have a lower thing it sure is Paul yes it is so here we're gonna take prospective pcs not to be too literal it literate in but that people maybe are considering buying so people are going to send us the PC part picker list of a PC that there may be about to build about to drop the hammer drop dime pull the trigger pull the trigger out spend the cash show checkout jump the chicken no there's nothing else to do invest money in anyway so we're gonna take a look at your PC particular so you gotta tell you if they're good or not absolutely okay that was a good recovery from your appalling segue initially thank you for that pun that was that's that's Paula ji accepted okay what's sitting on that one for a while it's I'm gonna strike okay like how can I make your name into a punch you can't stand it it's Mike my name's unbundle your Oh I'll think of something you give me time all right my givers Center see one of her first come on Mike this that you did you bet these Cal or these I did bet them briefly right um I also linked to their tweet because sometimes they have interesting information relevant information okay says he's planning to reuse power supply in GPU and he recently found great deals on an r7 1700 at the same price as an r5 2600 X and samsung 960 Evo 240 gig drive I also have some hard drives lying around which will add up to about one and a half terabytes groovy all right so we're looking at about $1,100 overall cost here okay so he's looking at an 8 core 1700 but he's saying for same price about the same price he's a 2500 X 27 2600 X sorry 2600 X right okay cool which is wait is the 2600 x8 course though no it's not net 6 course it's at a 1600 successor not some great deals on the art 717 it right so he's planning to get the 1700 credit so sorry just clarifying yeah so go with the eight core if you're considering if you're on the fence between the six core in the a court go with the eight core right we got a be 450 motherboard these just launched today they sure did way to go PC fare picker being on top of that Vulcan team Vulcan I believe this is rising compatible ddr4 three.js good speed turn reporting against SD turn fifty Gass the gtx 1066 gig and our Asian tech case I'm not familiar with this case but I don't like to critique a case that I haven't used any ninety comets in the case I haven't worked with many rage and tech cases okay I feel like they're a good budget option but they are budget and at least at least some of them but they had you have some higher end ones but I'm not sure about their budget cases really and the 650 watt power supply that he says he already has so the only thing I'm looking at here is for 8 $1100 piece PC gtx 1066 gig this is an expensive gtx 1066 gig I feel like for ya 40 right you can't get a like you get 7 in the 250 to $300 range a 1070 would only cost you maybe 60 bucks more yeah that's that's probably a better bet is maybe looking at spending just a just a smidge more yeah crank it up to about 400 bucks spend on that graphics card and maybe upgrade to attend 70 other than that I think you have a very nice assortment of parts here and question why the two SSDs 240 50 gig I would think you'd only need one of them for a boot drive we got an OD of me we've got an nvme drive here stick with that one ditch the mush look 960 Evo these are about the same price which is interesting yeah get two of these he can't fit like you don't have to have two of them but what I can find but I would you need a single 250 ish gig SSD if not for a boot drive look we've got dueling got two on the motherboard get to get to them two's rather than the anti gather than the and when he said he has some additional storage lying around but yeah he's gonna include the hard drives later that he's already got yeah for this price I would use this one alright here's another thing this is a 240 gig SSD 405 dollars you can get a 240 gig SSD for fifty-five dollars right now this is very overpriced yeah you should be able to spend $50 less on this so don't get locked in on this spend less on that SSD $50 less on it on this SSD and give yourself additional as is the storage that's fast but you're not spending the same prices on the nvme SSD apply that to the graphics card to give yourself ten seventy and you're good golden moving on thanks Mike perfect alejandro alejandro little first friend cool and he likes the our idea for the segment build for the friends on another rise in build 2600 so we got a six core building for 170 and that's a salt price for the so here's here's the real dilemma for the kind of mid-range budget builder right now if you're on rise in which you kind of should because intel stuff really isn't I don't know it's it's not selling me right now yeah the 2600 for 170 the 1600 for 150 or the 1700 for 210 220 if you can find the 1700 on sale because it drops below 200 sometimes definitely scoop that up absolutely other than that though it's it's perfectly legit to get the 2600 for 170 versus these it's only 20 bucks more than 1600 ok so X 470 motherboard 455 bucks this is the Asus Prime that's a soft by the board but why X 470 he's may have one grab potentially so he's got a 2600 I imagine he's potentially going to overclock it 2600 instead of the 2600 X here you're spending your money on this knowing it's unlocked and it's a reasonable option to get yourself 2600 X speeds with a decent overclocking motherboard it seems seems a bit pricey 155 bucks just to overclock Rison seems seems like something you do on the Intel platform right now personal opinion be 450 is supposed to have very adequate overclocking capabilities probably depending on the board depending on the board I mean yeah but what I'm saying is you could probably get a very similar overclocking experience with a decent be 450 board that's gonna cost you quite a bit less than this X 470 board III feel like X 470 is really only reserved for if you're trying to really like squeeze like the 99.999% of potential out of your out of your CPU and you're willing to spend quite a bit extra for that diminishing return or if you're gonna go multi-gpu so you could potentially shave some cost overall by getting it a less expensive motherboard support that I just used for my $800 build is an X 370 motherboard from Ezra X 370 sli AC which is $100 and has decent power delivery for overclocking that said this is a solid mid-range motherboard and I feel like 150 mother dollar mother Bryce and I don't know I I'm more ok with it I mean especially if you don't dabble with overclocking but yes you could shave you can also save some money off there and then apply it towards your CPU and get the 1700 and have a cores and 16 threats so that's another possibility right your memory kit is a solid choice here assuming this is a compatible or incompatible memory kit which I'm not positive you should double check him out yeah your motherboards qvl list but we're not going that and that in depth in this segment otherwise it'll take way too long 240 GB SSD 1 terabyte hard drive here what are you doing my god he's getting antsy he is a little antsy GT X 1080 fractal mesh if I see and a 750 watt power supply first but also you're spending a good amount on you don't need that much wattage you could maybe shave 10 20 bucks off and still get an 80 plus gold modular power supply yeah even from EVGA 550 to 650 Watts is what I would look at so yeah there's a little room with the few parts you have here overall I think you have a very nice assortment yeah I agree yeah so so good job ok there's a $20 mail-in rebate on that power supply better there is so he switch which brings it down to 80 which is still expensive no it brings it down to like 50 no no no it's a hundred Oh seventy seventy nine oh okay good yeah yeah yeah that's true okay next up your shrimp for an HTP cvrs system dream again horizon interesting you know about 2016 system a $1200 system all right we got an aftermarket cooler the crank c7 I have heard varying reports on the Craig seven when applied to a risin processor I have not tested it myself so please go and look at them maybe find some articles that have been written that have directly tested this but I've heard that the c7 doesn't do much better than the stock cooler he might be choosing that because if you look at the case no - OH - okay so the Wraiths fits doesn't alright no rainbow - is so great then ok a CPU if it's needed for that then that makes sense another be 450 Motherwell like I feel like there's a lot of people just right on top of it with the be 450 launching you you know again a 16 gig memory kit this is the Corsair Vengeance kit that is extremely popular and extremely compatible oh yeah hundred seventy-five yeah that's about what I would expect it to be right now 500 gig hard drive SSD well that's this I'm sorry that's an SSD the WD blue I said WD blue I forgot I forgot about the blue SSDs you know all right I'm gonna get 400 bucks is a base right does that say never in view man if we can say that but I think that we need black to be honest it is SATA alright so yeah that's reasonable I mean for a million TX m dot - makes a lot of sense yeah whether you're going piece a here ok GTX 1080 and alright so it's gonna be a killer system man in a very small package I it's all how to use it so the 1080 should be okay with the power supply I don't and I do not know about the power supply that's included with this bronze it's brought it's a bronze rated importance but their loss if you're not overclocking heavily than if at all you should be fine okay if you really want to push the limits of your card and your CPU though and you want to overclock consider buying the no - OH - without the power supply and adding your own because you can five five fifty you might as well go 550 it's a sfx it's just an SMS sx power supply right yeah yeah so that probably my that'd probably be my one suggestion as well as maybe maybe a little power supply upgrade is note to it - without the power supply i don't know what that cost was in eighty ninety bucks the idea so you probably spends 30 $40 more so it's gonna be your call and whether or not you want to do that but I will say for an HTP see that might be on all the time upgrading your pair of supply it's like a gold rated one will actually save you long-term on your pallet your actual power bill because it'll it'll just it'll use less power with the more efficient power supply and if it's an HTPC that's on all the time then that might be something to consider we got one more I wrote one more from pyro the computer he's been wanting to build for the last six months cool all right I wonder if this has been an evolving thing hmm oh we got an Intel chip finally all right 100 no no case Q not overclockable but we also have the Navy GAC LC 280 and an RG Strix ceased 3 Z 370 e I have 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance ddr4 3200 speed memory a 500 gig I'm sorry an MX 500 one terabyte total SSD Asus GTX 1070 Ti that's the Strix card and a 760 T Corsair case with an 850 watt EVGA supernova power supply ok and some some fans of course they're alright I think the first thing that I would point out is that you have a non overclockable CPU but you're spending a little bit extra on a Z series motherboard as well as over $100 on a cool and on a cooler which isn't really necessary a 280 cooler nonetheless for a CPU that you can't even overclock so I think you either want to get an 80 700 K and yeah everything makes sense or if you really want that 8,700 then you reduce your cooler to something a bit more moderate and then you also go with like a B 360 motherboard and save a lot of money yeah quite a bit of money this is a $200 motherboard a lot of the features of this motherboard are gonna be kind of wasted if you're not bothering with some overclocking there tweaking or that kind of thing this is an expensive motherboard at 200 bucks for this platform you could probably get away with something a little bit cheaper there's just I think there's a ton of ways you could potentially shave some dollars off something off of this build so let's yeah as a two thousand dollar build yeah let's assume let's assume you want to just upgrade that 8702 and how do you work he's going for the look here he's going for the look he's got the nice nice memory with the RGB the brand spankin new Vengeance RGB he's got a nice motherboard and in case hi I'm case I mean you know if you have the money and you you want the look you want 8700 K is about 350 350 versus the 8700 at 320 so we only need $30 so like literally you'd be much better off buying a $50 air cooler saving 20 bucks and going with the 8700 k if you want the liquid cooler they'll like get a get a slightly less expensive motherboard maybe and apply 30 bucks toward your CPU to get a upgrade your CPU your memory kit is a little on the expensive side it's vengeance is this this is RGB all right a little bit more for their energy when you ask it if that's what you want okay one terabyte SSD per want for 200 you can maybe get some cheaper than this right now SSD prices have been dropping pretty pretty substantially for for over $500 you should be getting a GTX 280 yeah not a 10-7 TTI your case that's an expensive case 170 dollars there's tons of really good case options around 100 bucks the very full-featured so you can save some money there if you love that case though then then go for don't let us hold you back on that and then you've got an 850 watt power supply which again is just way overkill even like 750 watt is plenty 650 watt is the total is still totally adequate even for a 1080 Ti yes 650 watts is okay so you can shave some money off there too you could bring this entire system down to closer closer to 1500 I think and still have the same performance yeah or even more if you get the case you so hopefully some of those suggestions are helpful for you best if I see them I like that that's good cake every case and that is those are all the things pip maybe see perfect list what did you think of the segment what did you guys think of this thing it's good I thought it was coming you know what's cool about this segment is that we can take a look at completely different builds that wouldn't necessarily work for pimp my PC like the htpc VR rig like you can't really pimp it's harder to pimp out Jesus like like I know the - I'm gonna see if he needs di maybe he needs - okay take your shoe in your water cool alright so moving on public catch up I'll fill them in let's do some tech news where is this is this I was a thing tech news okay we have one two three four five articles for my half in this segment and then we'll break it off to donations and stuff whoa Paul's monitor is going nuts what's happening Oh your monitors freaking out what's it doing it's just like a bunch of like like interlaced lines just going nuts nothing I literally I literally clicked on news and then I was like that's it and I literally clicked on you I don't do anything DICE's I have to take a picture of this since we did Jesus yeah I know sensitive information turn it off and back on again oh my god it usually fixes everything so what we live for technical troubleshooting so what's next news okay news oh we're talking about Logitech and their recent acquisition or their process of acquiring Blue Microphones yeah for a hundred and seventeen million cash just a big how do they deliver that like that's always my quest just just a bag of money I mean I know it's probably just a wire transfers like that but I always imagine you imagine is it in cash you guys have to imagine that like physical school money dollar bills dolla dolla belt like ones in ones that's been singles we cut it in 17 million single one dollar bills that they have to pay or what do you think there's ever been like a really truly company who's acquired a brand and like paying them in pennies I probably I mean I am and they pulled of mr. beast and just like pay them off in nickels or something all right so Logitech acquire is in the process of acquiring Blue Microphones this is an article from the verge but it's been pretty much everywhere on the Internet today blue is known for their USB condenser microphones including the snowball the Yeti very popular microphone brand for anyone looking for a little boost in their audio quality they're recording quality whether you're a musician a screamer etc this will join they will join Logitech's existing portfolio brands they've already got who's lunch tech app will they have themselves they have Logitech G which is their gaming series terrible terrible attempt throwing that in the trashcan how they have jaybird and suppose the other I don't know any of Mastro gaming after gaming is what Logitech owns Astro yes which I did not know until today I think it now we know about jaybird the company says the acquisition is a logical adjacent opportunity with great synergies I think every acquisition press released in the past 10 years has used the word synergies and dislike whichever PR rep broke bad wine oh fuck you and your synergy bullshit god shit that that word should only be system yes and just like a synergy we touched tips and synergy in perfect synergetic 'el harmonious senator senator senator genital sinner genital is it our sinner genitals were synergetic lease in synched with each other's synergies alright anyway sexy um there's not much else to say here other than congrats logitech I guess make us some cool microphone this is mean we're gonna see like a blue quality microphone like a Yeti implemented into a keyboard like where you just have like a microphone built into your into mechanical keyboard or something like that maybe there will be some I'm trying to think as I was reading this article as trying to think would there be any weird sort of mashup product that would come from what that's a peripheral maker and specifically a keyboard mic webcam right all-in-one which would be really cool actually because if you ever went to a LAN and you wanted to stream at the land you could just bring your keyboard be one peripheral to rule them all that could be revolutionary that could be really cool I don't know how it work or look but I think there there's there's potential here so my excitement so okay as long as the webcam part of it is detachable so you can reposition it cuz my only thoughts if the webcam is chilton the keyboard just j like in those Jimin nostrils it looked like when you open up your camera and it's the front-facing can that pops on you're just like oh come on turn a looping around Jesus Christ I look like a monster you trim my nose hairs yeah so but but be aware Bram yeah that'd be fun with what people were bringing up a very good point in chat and I thought about this as well but if you had the the mic built into your keyboard to be very loud as your clacking away even on like you know some quieter switches I would imagine that's but if there was somehow have belts and why they acquired blue though cuz blue is the my lease acknowledge oh he's canceling technologies to get rid of clothes yeah they've got them they have the technical knowledge or skill manufacturing could you imagine though orals or if Logitech came out with a headset that had a microphone and on keyboard on par with a Yeti could you imagine a headset a gaming headset from Logitech with like a Yeti grade mic that would be sweet I think that's that's maybe the more directly I'm gonna say a headset with the keyboard ooh be right back I'm gonna go take a pee-pee the tape I needed my own Bank that's what I'm looking forward to just watch a hole oh god I hate it when people clip stuff because it means we've done something terrible or embarrassing I'll watch it later thank you everyone let's next next up is nvidia announcing the GeForce gaming celebration at Gamescom 2018 sounds jubilant this article's from Nvidia themselves straight from the horse's mouth Nvidia they're talking about basically announcing their their their big ol gaming celebration which is a day before takes place a day before games come on August 20th in Cologne Germany in case you guys aren't aware games come is the biggest or the largest gaming convention in the world that happens annually and a day before it starts this year Nvidia is gonna host a little shindig and they've invited everyone and said come on down it's gonna be fun and I quote the event will be loaded with new exclusive hands-on demos that's not in the quote of the hardest no.not artist hottest upcoming games stage presentations and the world's biggest game developers and some spectacular surprises what are the surprises we don't know we'll find out at the something at some point how not extraordinary yes absolutely Pichler and we'll find out what they're exactly talking about with their spectacular surprises come August 20th so yeah it should be fun Paul and I we will be there I will probably be there to explore all the games and games come and just hang out I think I'll go to games Conn to cap yeah you know it's it's like life shorte if you have the opportunity to go to games common idea and you're not on invidious parole lists or you know you don't have a restraining order or something or they don't have a restraining order on you I don't even know why this is relevant but you should go you should go to games come anyone who who doesn't who's not ever been in a court battle with videos could've games come all right my NBA you're showing that's that sounds like I don't know about sucking about right now I don't know what what they're talking about you're talking about that it's it's in Cologne Germany it's in Cologne Germany not the Cologne cologne III am Adi I am of German heritage me not although I have never actually visited the motherland so I you know drank all the German because technically more German than me but I'm looking forward to it so if you're gonna be in Cologne for games come then maybe we'll all have a chance to say hi yeah we're not sure about many of the details at this point but yeah you know it's up in the air very exciting very exciting yeah I'm sure those spectacular surprises you'll be surprising no European Union see how things are going over there across the pond hey euro do you call them Europeans hey Europeans by Germans where we're gonna be hey German and what if you're in Cologne would you callate Cologne in colognian hey colognian cool I was just I always assume it's gonna smell really good in Cologne just gonna get there walk out the planet I just played what a pleasant smell it's almost as if the air is perfumed beauty section of a shopping mall okay so thanks Nvidia for the announcement that you'll be doing fun stuff Gamescom oh we can't wait to see what you guys pull out pull out of your hats next up we've got an article from video cards calm once again from Nvidia this is a bit more technical and the the company has introduced their adaptive temporal anti-aliasing with ray tracing now so this is basically building upon adaptive temporal aliasing which already exists but now we have it with ray tracing so it's gone from taa to a taa and I keep thinking of like 80 18 Walker's from Star Wars but that's totally not what we're talking about this is all the the featured the technology that we're talking about allows the processing to happen in real time with the help of ray tracing it's designed specifically for games which I like this isn't like games get the back burner purpose of this technology it's it's buy-in for gaming developers this is a new technology that's developed to overcome the problems that were associated with taa such as ghosting and blurring this was especially prevalent in scenes that that included a lot of motion or movement a problem with taa so the ray-tracing really helps to alleviate a lot of those artifacts like ghosting and blurring Nvidia is promising that a taa will achieve a quality of 8x super sampling while staying under thirty three millisecond frame delays which is fantastic so you're getting basically SSA a 8x but with a reduced penalty to performance that is a good thing and this is measured this has been measured in Unreal Engine 4 using a Titan beat the tech is not coming to gamers anytime soon according to the article which you might expect because there are no video cards on the market right now that would even support this technology perhaps perhaps there will be some new GPU in the near future that will support this new technology I mean it's just a matter of time right we just don't know exactly when that time will be the the the authors of the research paper that that introduces this new technology we're emphasizing the importance of DX our API or Microsoft DirectX ray-tracing again which is something that needs to be implemented by the GP manufacturer into the cards to support the technology in the first place so this is a cool technology that is not coming to gamers on any existing GPU architecture this is next-gen this is a next-gen feature that we could see hopefully sooner than later I think we're all hoping for new video cards very soon but that's all we're gonna say on that very much video cards for that article we can move on to ARS Technica's article on on YouTube hey we're streaming to youtube right now might as well talk about it that's and what's remarkable coincidence and what's going on with YouTube right now is that vertical video is is forever changed along with four by three video there's basically been a new update to the favored to our beloved video website that basically changes how we view vertical video this is an example actually I provided some links in the image in the show doc if Paul wants to bring those up yes let's take a look at the four by three video so this is what four by three video looks like on YouTube wait expand though you can't expand the window much anymore Kenya okay that's interesting it looks like this is the the tradition the old way I'm sorry okay that's weird because according to the article and from what I was looking at earlier articles wrong no did they buy it so they do they go back on it it's supposed to fill up the entire screen now or fill up the entire video playing area over so actually the picture is the before and after pictures show it pretty clearly that's really weird that your system or for whatever reason it's not updated basically because it's not updated basically it's because I'm using the legacy YouTube view okay so I'll just I'll just continue while Paul figures that about four by three video on YouTube has always been played back with the black bars on either side but now the four by three video is actually stretched out to fill that entire video player space so there's no more black bars and you get essentially more video this is just a random dudes video that I found that I thought was hilarious it has 1.2 million views because this is also the old view this is also the old view so this is what it looks like before here's the new view so the new view old view old view new view new view has no more black bars instead it is just like white space instead of black bars this is revolutionary a massive chain it's either revolutionary or arguably racist and we've gone switched over to white bars what why do they gotta be white why does everything have to be white what I don't know what's the difference between these two so they're also showing that 16 by 9 video has been slightly enlarged if you look at the left margins the margins have been reduced so that we're now filling up a little bit more of the screen space with with even 16 by 9 video ok but the main changes here are 4 by 3 which no longer has black bars on the side and I think that's the biggest one is that 4 by 3 is now sort of a full-screen image with no black bars the vertical video doesn't really make sense to me because you're literally just switching from black bars to white bars it doesn't seem to make a hell of a difference to me because I don't see color ladies and gentlemen but for whatever reason people are still angry about this if you look at the YouTube help forum people are putting this new change on blast of course what would you change actions if your internet is is is hesitant and and are holding up pitchforks to change impossible people are pissed if you look on the Google forums and stuff people like the old way you guys sound often chat let's have a discussion going on what you think of the new playback style additionally YouTube has also rolled out arc mode for Android YouTube's app which is a long time coming this is already existed on iOS and on the desktop site finally us Android users get a dark mode option where we can view YouTube essentially with a dark background a black background instead of the white which is definitely helpful when you're like browsing at nighttime and you don't like your phone backlight just blaring in here and your eyeballs and stuff it's alive this is why yeah you're lying - I'm not lying not lying you're in legacy mode or some shit you you're an old man mode you're like in irrelevant mode because maybe it's okay if you're just watching YouTube but if you're using YouTube and uploading to YouTube and there's vital things that you use and ways that you access those things and suddenly they're changed or moved or moved and you have time to deal with this shit right now because you're trying to get a video uploaded so you can post your stick a video before it gets too late in the day and they have to post it tomorrow it's what's been moved there things things have moved everywhere so just like screw this shit I don't want to channel I don't see you're trying to find it give me the old mode right now cuz you're changed stuff and an inconvenient time for me and I just want the old things so I can get stuff done the way I'm abusive being done alright jeez Paul it just was bullshit this whole thing's bullshit gosh I didn't I didn't realize that this was such an issue through sucks maybe maybe YouTube should you know ask us first if we'd be ok with this this level of change before they just go all Apocalypto on us yeah that's just seems rude at this point lord knows I can only I personally I I can only upload videos to YouTube when it's in dark mode and even tried dark mode ok say if it's in light mode agent legacy mode said I have access to that Oh old bastard alright welcome what can you do alright let's see it's moving on and this is our last article for my half this is from also from ARS technica very fascinating article that's headlines don't try to rejuvenate your vagina FDA warns after scolding companies I just couldn't let this article pass me by the FDA is noting that Scott has given a healthy dose of satire this is a vagina has clearly not been rejuvenated and he is waiting for a healthy treatment is he looking at someone who is trying to rejuvenate their vagina is that what he's looking at even disapprovingly perhaps he's you know from from the FDA I just feel like there's a lot of subtext going on to this picture and I'm not 100% sure what all it is well it's full let's dive right in and go deep into this article no pun intended the FDA sent warning letters to seven companies advertising energy based devices that are being used outside of their approved intended uses some of these devices are radiofrequency or laser based and have legitimate uses like removing warts or precancerous vaginal vaginal or vaginal I think vaginal is just the proper way to say it I'm just gonna say vagina from now on because I think that makes the most that the most Awkward sense or cervical tissue but these companies are instead using them for vaginal rejuvenation and I put that in quotes because this is actually a phrase or a term that these companies are marketing they're saying come to us for your vaginal rejuvenation and we'll promise you a tighter tissue relieved pain and boosted sexual pleasure basically we'll all good things will make your pussy to live forever that's what they're saying but they're rejuvenating your your vaginal status to to single I don't know what's happening here but more specifically these companies are collectively claiming that the devices are able to treat vaginal laxity pain during urination or intercourse decreased sexual sensation vaginal dryness itching or atrophy some of these issues are symptoms related to menopause urinary in consist in content since you can in in contingents any continence usually when I refer to incontinence it's when I'm in at different continents incontinence ship but it's okay or sexual function issues so essentially there are companies now this is a trend this is a trend where there are now companies saying hey you know what we could really like you know in order to make a product first before you can make a product you first need a problem and then you need to sell the solution to that problem well you know what my wife complains about her vagina all the time oh yeah mine too you know my wife says her vagina is not what it used to be when she was 21 that's why she goes to forever 21 all the time in shops there so hey why don't we why don't we create a business called vaginal rejuvenation where old older women can have their vag and their vaginas recreated in a sense given new life give birth to the thing that usually gives birth so let's let's let's use these tools these medical tools medicinal tools that are generally used to treat warts and precancerous objects on the body but we'll use them for our new marketing ploy called vaginal rejuvenation and apparently the FDA has caught on to this whole scheme and gone this is not right people are blasting vaginas with lasers and it's dangerous these lasers aren't even intended for vaginal blasting and rejuvenating please someone stop this so that's why the FDA sent out letters to these companies and we're like dude you guys got to stop blasting people's vaginas with quick peace put these cancer lasers it's just it's fucked up it's really fucked up vaginas are suffering all over the world like my wife's a client and her vagina is even worse than it was before I don't know what's going on here frickin laser beams okay so the FDA just cares about your wife's vagina is and then we've broken Paul Paul dot exe has officially stopped working and here we are at level level nine level who had been fucked up so I don't know I don't know what I'm going on about right now you know word you know the FDA Commissioner even tweeted we're deeply concerned we're deeply concerned women are being harmed by these procedures he's basically saying we're deeply concerned about women's vaginas you know which is a an important thing to care about I can't see it's an important thing it's just you know it's a good thing my image isn't being streamed this is why we have so my half done I'm done I'll spare you the rest of the car oh my god oh boy okay Lucent so far okay there's a blasting as a jazz with the cancer later there's a serious cockpit ball very could come I was gonna make a very good comment two vaginas are at risk done now okay okay I'm sure it'll ah sorry that's a good laugh that's a good laugh I'm sure that'll be best for all of history to ever to see good to have a good laugh indeed you know like incapacitating laugh Sam 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two three months straight and there was hardly any dust and a 24/7 operation so I think it's a little bit different with a $12,000 PC inside of an end to elite chassis then your typical you know I don't know each H you know s340 elite or whatever that's you know it's literally very nice to have some sort of something just to raise it you know there's sad it's sad when it's on the floor and you know you know the envy elites how its structured right there's like a full sheet of metal at the bottom and then it's really practical you know airflow configuration with exhaust at the bottom solves the main issue of short of sucking a bunch of dust and I'm just saying be nice to you know if I you know if I owned a desk that I thought I felt confident enough to put that 200-pound thing on that I probably would that was also big enough to house it now like I want a desk it's I'm not saying like there's like a pallet does that mean that system would need a frickin mini pallet - nothing else I 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software and as far as I know pretty much the same settings from both locations I don't I don't know why that would be the case right yeah that is peculiar I want to be able to watch them later all right thank you very much noche and hope you figure that out Ajay Patel 4.99 you guys are awesome quick questions since we're talking about GPUs EVGA hybrid for the win or orest water for extreme should I do a vertical GPU build what is the forest water force extreme and why have I not really it's there 1080 anna has looked okay so it's as it is an AI oh it is in the IO okay so it's basically a direct competitor to the EVGA well geez man I don't think you could go wrong either way even though I haven't really fully reviewed either one look at the reviews they're probably pretty good either way and should you do a vertical GPU build this is where I would say vertical GPU build go for it because you have it on the cooler on your GPU that means you can flip that you can put the radiator and fan 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you know again like Paul said you can't go wrong with a lot of those big brands just go with personal preference and stuff if you plan to be gaming and streaming for long periods of time I would focus unlike the actual heat dissipation over the motherboard make sure it's got like good heat sinks maybe even either active cooling or just something that can be cooled relatively well yeah I hope that helps and I see donations coming in a mile a minute so sell if you could cough the donations every bottle or shelf the ones coming from now on to paul's half and we'll get around to that go ahead and make a note in the show doc thank you very much elite gamers $5 love your channel computers and badge lasers that's what we're here you know talking about the important stuff merging and these discuss all of the best things together into one badge vagina one 7up but you can hate it for China and Russia wire five Canadians gonna get the name of the drugs you guys are doing because you're what the 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even work nothing happens wait do I say don't stop stop okay how about now do I sound like the devil now how's that is it working now cuz the lights on and I think that might mean that it's actually working this time I'm the devil but come on dick we should use these effects more often I think okay still not working why that nope nope didn't pick it's it worked we what I don't know oh my god I like reading like not working okay I don't know why it's not working us but it should be working okay okay again what's your opinion on buying ex mining GPUs let's focus I wasn't working you should buy them with caution unless they're super dirt cheap and you're using them as a a temporary solution because you have no idea what those GPUs have been for other than that oh sorry there's knobs on our individual channels too okay sorry go on he was asking if he should buy ex mining GPUs I was saying it's kind of a risk because you have no idea what those GPUs have been through how long they've been running 24/7 if you can find an extremely good deal on them that you just you just like okay if it you you have to ask yourself the personal question this is a personal thing if you're buying an RX 580 for a hundred and fifty dollars you're like and you're thinking you have to decide for yourself if this thing's gonna crap out on me in like six months to a year or two years am I gonna be okay with that so assess how long you think that GPU will last you under a heavy mining load always assume the worst case scenario is what I would suggest and then decide is the price up there asking worth the worst-case scenario of that GPU that's the best I could really offer you all right do I say am I did I say that all is the devil no no no no okay good you know Eboli talk about yeah mining for GPUs I mean I've heard that there's a bunch like mining GPUs are there a bunch of them going up for sale right now working working it might be it might it might be actually a good time potentially 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