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mobile archaic GPUs sorry is dropping soon so this isn't Nvidia coming out and saying hey guys there's been no official statement battle from Team Green was this laptop manufacturers sprinkling some teasers here and there while nudge-nudge wink-wink type stuff one might reasonably presume NVIDIA has made mobile graphics cards in the past yes they have and so this is now we've got some device IDs on github I see yes so that's how they spotted the r-tx 2080 max-q with the turing tu-104 em semicolon one EAB the the Tia tu-104 indicates the GPU Turing and tu-104 is the GPU used in the r-tx 2080 the em perhaps indicates mobile or max Q one of the other both the same way the same device ID was spotted on another database with the device description where actually if you scroll down this little screenshot had had like it actually listed some GeForce r-tx 2080 mobile with the same device ID right up there in top left corner so you know these Turing max-q chips I'm circling it with the mouse cursor that's brilliant as long as you have mouse cursor enabled that should be perfectly adequate making that abundantly clear so the these trade may execute chips are gonna have a hopefully amount a manageable TVP because it's gonna have lower clock speeds as the max Q chips do and we have a slightly more refined and efficient architecture going down to 12 nanometers now so so so so hopefully cooling won't pose a big issue in slimmer laptops using these GPU or using this particular GPU because again we're just talking about the RT X 2080 max-q right now the RT x 2070 and 2060 max-q will probably come eventually but we'll have to wait for those because the xx the art the full-size desktop GPUs that correlate to those are not launching until later this year down the line so typically what NVIDIA has done in the past is Lord release the desktop GP first on the mobile will follow the correlating local GP will follow so if you were hoping to to get your hands on maybe a more cost-effective or budget-friendly Turing mobile mobile Turing GPU laptop you might have to wait a bit longer until the full-size desktop GPUs are released first have to wait a really long time at the prices for the desktop variants or any indication yes yes absolutely things things are lagging say the least and yeah I guess more more updates on these mobile GPUs as we get more information but that's all we know for now and and that's not even a lot because because it's all speculations that's all to be shot none of this is probably true at all it's just from techno Falcon birds this is where we're all getting this from so who's to say but we we have more juicy news that is a bit more concrete and kind of scandalous poo scandal steaming handle illegal witness illegal little ended missus tsmc has yet another employee or ex-employee now for sure that's been charged with trade secrets theft ooh whoo juicy thank you what's the punishment for that in Taiwan um I bet it's death I hope no that's terrible thing to say but we'll get there we'll get there a former tsmc I'll give you the the bullet points here the former tsmc employee was arrested recently by Taiwan police which means it's happened in Taiwan obviously and has been charged with stealing trade secrets to his next employer which is Shanghai hua Li micro electronics or HL MC the charge includes counts of IP theft and smuggling trade secrets of vital 10 nanometer and 16 nanometer silicon fabrication technologies over to his next job at HLM C shameful curious to see if I wonder if he's actually gonna still if that jobs still on the table for him at hom see after this whole thing it's like nope you're you're you're damaged goods bro known as Chow by digit times I hope that's just I didn't give the last thing but I hope that's just his his full name like you know share he's just chow this guy doesn't have a first or lesson he's just I'm just child I hope that's you probably wanted tonight it's like Shou Shou Shou like Shaolin bow I'm hungry don't let's just talk about that you brought it up oh I didn't yeah your fancy Chinese pronunciation dick the ex-employee was arrested by Taiwan police indicated a breach of trust before he could flee tsmc to HL MC a lot of acronyms there they were in Taiwan foundry companies are already struggling by the way with the extreme costs and the complexity of developing these you know ten nanometer and newer fabrication process notes and having someone just coming in an ex-employee or whoever tried to just basically jeopardizing billions of dollars of R&D it's not making their job any easier and it's certainly not bringing ten nanometer products and such to US consumers any sooner either so this goes back to what is the punishment to Taiwan for someone who's for an employee that secret that's what I led with that was my question now we've come full circle all right damn good at this so what happens if I can badasses uh I don't know it didn't didn't say I I hope it's something like I don't want them to die because of it it'd be really kind of up but it should be bad enough to like set an example so that people just don't do it because it's I don't know why would this guy risk so much money exactly money wasn't involved or if the punishment wasn't really that bad like even if you get caught there's low risk even you know soso money either HL MC offered him ton of money or maybe a high-ranking position at their company for betraying tsmc who's to say whenever I hear about like industrial espionage and stealing trade secrets and everything I always think of Dennis Nedry from from Jurassic Park oh like the guy who got eaten by the t-rex yeah yeah yeah wait no he's not no no he gets eaten by us he gets Raptors just know this the spitter miss bitter and yes miss berry and the Jeep but yeah we're not the beginning you know he's meeting with the guy and like you know he's got the can of shaving cream where to store the embryos in yeah you never have a fat guy right yeah what's that act it has Nedry he's Newton Newman he's Newman he's Newman no I mean that's not his name that's what he's doing on Seinfeld I don't know the actor's name but those are the things I know from but yes it's very much yeah that's that's a perfect example really yeah don't be a new miss just I think there should be some sort of punishment for being a Newman you should be called like the the Newman law the Newman hammer will be brought down upon you Wayne Knight Wayne that sons someone said wingnut yeah we got a double comprehension Wayne Knight okay you don't hear that name too often is the name you should know he's big actor has been yep but he's also traitor so push Gilman um character played how do we get so off workers engine here let's move on okay Samsung CEO sort of a CEO CEO of mobile division anyway says it's time it's time finally to deliver a foldable smartphone oh wow to the masses it is it is finally here well almost right through all right this is article from hexxus thing saying I never thought there would be a folding phone right I never see the day I mean you never thought there'd be a smart but you ever thought there'd be a phone so Samsung's DJ Co was the CEO of the mobile division said a foldable smartphone first of its kind will launch wait for it this year that's that's like oh that's like in the next three months are already working on this cray cray he didn't reveal much info but he did say that the device would be would still be useful when it was folded so whether it's open or folded it's gonna have functionality and must use nanotechnology like Iron Man's suit it is probably going to be exactly that whoo I hope they built they build like Jarvis in built-in Jarvis would be sweet but not like the Jarvis the Indian video demo that just plays loud music and causes a ruckus what you remember they had like a little Jarvis in the demo at the the spaceman in the suit and then all of a sudden little robot arms are like starting like play music and they're dancing and the robot guy comes back - yeah that's yeah that's bad that I got I got some Jarvis mines from that but but like a lesson I ology see so you think that's an association you probably made in your head at some point that most of us hadn't really I totally got like an Iron Man and Jarvis vibe from that scene that Charlie Jarvis is like a voice you talked to Jarvis and he responds and says you know well yeah right away sir whatever tells you that that's why I said it was like a dumb and he's on the Jarvis you know he can control mechanical machines but he's he's a mute a mute Jarvis with I feel like there's so much of Jarvis long this is him that is in the voice though like if you if not then that's just any given robotic AI that he could attributes like there's any any work of science fiction yeah but it was like him the robot interactions it's not a natural fully pulled up some days should i it's not a connect is a total connection pull back me up your chat is it a blue hue man tell me you thought of Jarvis an Iron Man during that Nvidia demo let's settle this I thought of it's not too late to change your sword fight I thought of like there's like a blizzard I think there's a blizzard cinematic from Starcraft where where there he's where one of the Marines is suiting up and that's what it reminded me of see how I never thought that it's just to very distant perfectly I've got lots of people thought of that anyway we're getting off topic so let's let's get back on track here what okay Samsung seems to be struggling with and this is indicated by the words of their own mobile CEO they seem to be struggling with how to deliver a marketing message that's gonna convince people that they need a phone that can fold like what why why they're trying to figure out like how do we sell this to people and my thought was if you fold a phone that means that it can fit in your pocket easily but when it unfolds it can be much larger than a device that you'd be able to put in your pocket so it's almost like you have a tablet say is 7/8 inch tablet that can fold down to serious like legit pocket size that you have on you will at all times is that not a good enough reason to sell people like I would I would think that's pretty cool and if you know when its hold it it's just kind of the size of a regular would be four or five inch smartphone I missed the phone that they used in and the matrix and the first matrix you know it was like oh yeah doing like that yeah old if it's two pieces it could go through like that and then you could do that thing like when you get the call you you know yeah yeah those I think they should bring those back although I don't know what you just roll down with your elbow I have many skills super powers he's playing he's flexing hard but I don't know I I feel like I feel like the sliding thing it worked for its time but it also seems a lot more like likely to fail because it's like a lot of like hardware so dip it's the nineties where the nineties are coming back you right now nineties a big eighties eighties hot for a while there everyone is doing those the eighties stuff now then that's gonna be what night the 90s has been coming back Stewart stone wash jeans no chain wallets like huge everything that came from the 90 should stay in the night I'm waiting for the Zoot Suit thing to Timmy to swing back around there is a zoot suit store on Harbor Boulevard I know it's been there since I was in high school I know the drama kid back when sky was was was just you know going crazy back not that I remember that of course I'm way younger than anyway no I love the 90s I had to love the 90s I was I grew up in the 90s that was my but I would have loved to grow up in the eighties more but I still like that I grew up in the 90s because everyone can feel I like ladies by watching the eighties like kids movies and I like the ETS and the Goonies and stuff like that I guess mainly Steven Spielberg's work you calm down what calm down I don't know I don't know sense of danger probably getting some homeward-bound vibes like they're gonna they're gonna try to stay at home I know so it's like what what are they looking at let's move on let's move on what's next Cal 505 open beta that's open and so the embargo just lifted the Raby battlefield 5 rotterdam videos so gaming sites like digital foundry Eurogamer and pc gamer i've been trying out the new game with our TX bond with the RT x 2080 thanks so they're testing out the RT x 28 e TI with great racing work with our TX bond and they're kind of measuring the performance here digital foundry noted some scores with their 22 20 80 TI demo running battlefield 5 1080p resolution was averaging about 60 FPS 1440p resolution 42 50 fps and 4k was getting under 30 frames per second so still can't play 4k with our TX on oh well that's our K X on so I don't know obviously the game the game itself the drivers for the card and the hardware are still not fully optimized because it hasn't been released yet to the public but if this doesn't change much or even if it changes a little bit that's just a terrible game right there it's really bad like I don't know RTX on is gonna take your performance so badly at least from these numbers that I'm seeing here that but look how accurate the reflections and the puddles are you can see the puddle reflection then then you're sacrificing your your in-game accurate see your in-game accuracy in you're aiming who cares about are helping ready and accuracy when you're immersed for how pretty and it's like you're right there and in this particular reimagining of what World War two might have been like this is exactly miss wait this is World War two it's where World War two or one or two students do which is weird right because battlefield one was World War one wasn't it and why would why would why would they go to Battlefield five I mean they came to rebrand the world wars for quite some time yeah like we used to be easy we had we had we had one and two oh that was a hero bar you tell them hero I was a big boy soldier boy tells a Bigfoot bark hey quiet dogs whippersnapper this doesn't bode well because the thing is is that people still care way more about performance than they do next-gen graphic technology at the end of the day and you're right you're totally right who the hell is gonna be looking at how accurate the reflections are in a real game I'm just gonna go before in a fast-paced game like Battlefield 5 you're you're never gonna like stop to smell the roses you're gonna be too frantic and busy killing people left and right and try not to die that you're you won't you wouldn't even notice if r-tx was on or not but if you did turn it on you pay let's say a thousand bucks plus 4 and r-tx 20 ATT i like of course you would want to have r-tx on because that's a huge part of what you just paid for but now your performance is getting tanked because of how I don't know how much of a first gen technology this is and that's what Eurogamer even said early this this has a lot of promise in the in the grand scheme of things in the long run but right now it still feels very much like a first generation technology so I don't know 60fps at 1080p for a thousand bucks for your graphics card it does not I don't know I don't know well you know what you know we need bright now Paul we need some really hardcore confirmed and stable leaks to back up to back up this card and the whole r-tx Turing business let's move on to leaks maybe maybe that'll pull us out of this rut to have not not fully trusting this whole r-tx launch and the performance it offers ok this articles from hot hardware and the latest leak that they found a lot of people have found shows the RT x 20 80 TI the very card we were just talking about scoring much higher than the GTX 1080i in 3d mark well for that price let's freaking hope so but someone sent how did this leak come about well of course video cards dot-com just happen to receive some juicy screenshots or images man video cards dot-com they've got it they've got to have like so many informants just running amok so someone who sent him screenshots but someone just sent him a bunch of screenshots of an RT X xx atti scoring twelve thousand eight hundred and twenty five points in in time spine which is being reported by them not video cards but by the leaker as a thirty five percent increase over the 1080i however pop hardware's own collection of Pascal benchmarks has shown that this is this figure is closer to the 25 percent game which I think sounds more realistic it's at any rate it's the it's the highest score from any single car that they've tested including the Titan and again for the price for a gaming geforce card I would expect nothing less if not more video cards explained in a follow-up tweet they said the score itself was sent to me a few days ago as far as I know no one outside of Nvidia and or partners had the drivers at that time so it could be fake or using the wrong drivers unless it was from an Nvidia employee or a dan board partner I wonder it's also it also makes me curious like does video cards really not know who leaked this to them like wouldn't the person who leaked it I don't know I I guess it could go either way like what's in it for them if if they don't take any credit for it do you think you could still get paid if you leaked information to a site like video cards com anonymously could they still theoretically pay you legally I have no idea I mean I don't know how I don't know what the legalities are paying money for something like that or like at this point you know it's it's very easy to fudge up you know some results some 3dmark results or something like that and take a you know picture of the screen or something and enough information is out about the cards to put stuff on there to make it look reasonably you know accurate and who's to say because in another few weeks or however long it is until actual reviews can come out that that actual reviews will come out and then this will be forgotten so you know speculation is like is it actual employee who decided to take a picture of this and send it to their friend at video cards that they know somehow or did video cards mock this up themselves in order to post wherever the source might happen to be it's in order to post it to get a bunch eyeballs and people talking about it and traffic to the website yeah I mean my opinion would be the latter I just another fan of leaks this is your segment you're doing a segment right now on leaks no you're providing because everyone loves leaks but I don't like them because I actually report on these products for real it's part of my job so the leaks affect me differently than they do the regular your average customer there has to be some sort of distinction there but at any rate let's talk about another way that's cuz we've got another one the until quarry 909 B is switching gears here the 9700 K 8 core CPU has been overclocked allegedly just 5.3 gigahertz on it from wulftec a new website woof tech wolf the interesting woof tech mr. clean okay that's good it's good stuff Paul you keep that up deep deep bed scores have been leaked 5.3 gigahertz on air apparently previous leaks are so the 9700 k overclocked to 5.5 gigahertz on liquid with a super high voltage of like 1.53 something that's a lot of voltages a lot and a city bench score of 250 points in the single threaded test and eighteen hundred and twenty seven points in the multi-threaded test that's very high the latest leak however that we're talking about today shows the chip running at five point three gigahertz a bit but slightly more modest than the five point five but that's on air holy crap Oh with a more reasonable voltage of one point two one five volts that's actually really good if this is true of course so it's very blurry kind of you know looks like it's in Chinese maybe cpu-z shot right there and it's you know this could be well this is an engineering sample it's an es sample and you can see right there's an es rat for the clock it does so it is an example who's to say it could be Bend it could be big they could have hit the silicon lottery here with this one maybe that was the point um at any rate the the cooler that they were using was just a thirty dollar deep cool gamax 400 with four heat pipes I think another reason if this is all to be true that we're seeing fairly decent overclocking results with relatively low voltage with a air cooler a dinky air core at that thank you could be partially attributed to the fact that Intel is now featuring soldered IHSS on these chips as opposed to their crappy thermal interface material that they've run on previous generations that could help immensely I'm sure it does help immensely from a lot of testing that other you know outlets have already shown so it's unclear what motherboard they're using but there seems to be a surprising lack of vrm heat sinks on it so motherboard says right here is a gigabyte technology z3 70 or sultry cameltoe wulftec I mean article says yes it does seem to be it did say like I didn't read the fine print of every synthetic screen shot they literally said we don't know what motherboard this is so with five seconds Paul was able to here's more information from their own article than they were we're also insure of the dates which this upload took place yes actually it's like the biggest text at the top of the screen I didn't see that I wasn't looking I wasn't looking for it at the time I was reading the text and looking at the scores great great detective work wulftec very unimpressed by whoof text first articles that we're talking about here in the show because there and then the geeks core is just really quick geeks chorus deep bench scores sory the chip is running stock for this test reported a single core score of sixty two hundred and ninety seven points with a multi-core score of thirty thousand one hundred and fifty two points oh wait hold on perhaps they were talking about the motherboard during the overclocking as the over the motherboard you spotted was specifically just for the Geekbench scores the geek bench test that that may be May that's it that that would make a little more sense I'm going to take all that back we take everything back we'll take you guys do great work you're a solid journalist and we have nothing but at most respect to you there's the screenshot right here WCC of tech though wulftec's women roof deck also yeah a thirty thousand one hundred fifty two points score in the multi threaded test putting it well ahead of the eighty seven hundred k again I would sincerely hope so um also a much higher single-threaded score than the Rison seven twenty seven hundred X as as we've seen from both the the rising generations so far single threaded scores have fallen behind Intel's mainstream flagship chips just it's got higher NPCs it's just faster clocks all that but a lower multi-threaded score than the 2,700 X because the core i7 for the first time ever the flagship core i7 chip as a part of Intel's mainstream lineup he's not multi-threaded has eight cores and eight threads so obviously the 2700 X is 16 cores is gonna help it achieve a higher multi-threaded scoring threads 16 threads sorry you'll have to look to the core I nine ninety-nine hundred K maybe as a would be a more fair comparison to the 27th or X as that has the same corn thread count now but just the 9900 Kagan to cus probably a lot more than 27 X I would imagine but could also potentially be notably faster we'll see but that's gonna wrap it up for leaks we only had two weeks today but they were big weeks took a long leak on all you guys leaked so let's move right along to pimp my PC oh good we're back with rating your rigs or not reading your rigs really but just help any guys out trying to trying to build you a better rate see at least this is first ones from Josh and make you say feel self-conscious you feel really safe classroom tear you a new one 7600 K at 4.7 gigahertz a hyper Evo 212 a Suzy 270 a 16 gigs of crucial ddr4 500 kW D end up to drive 4 terabyte hard drive 480 gigas and this distance D fantex and through pro case and a rave Max vampires 750 okay huh love the case love the card old-school and two Pro motherboard and RAM look great all right you've got ketchup and mustard on your 24-pin ATX and your your your GPU cable doesn't look all that great either even though it's black and flat it's kind of I don't know so some sleeved extensions would would do D some good it's just it's lackadaisical it's it's very blah yeah it's very kind of juice more intention and also you know this this the enthu Pro it came out at a time you know this early this is early in in sort of a new stage I feel like of cases and popular things with cases the power supply shared was not popular was not was not very much of a thing when when when this case came out and then pass through for the GPU power cable is sort of an awkward position yeah if you have a nice sleeve cable with a nice clean swoop coming out of there then it's okay than that it's just it's still a little too far down you might still consider going back through the rear pass throughs on the motherboard tray yep rather rather than straight down there that we could we could use a bit of a dusting it looks like we maybe had a quick pass of the hand over there as you were maybe preparing to take the photo but if it's not thorough it's just not going to look good I'd almost prefer that even coating of dust but what else I mean yeah just just some cabling some cabling work we've got some old stray cables we've got some cables that are other otherwise colored I would not I would upgrade my cooler first I'm in the hybrid 212 it's with a 7600 K inside of that case he's got it overclocked it's not if it's 4.7 that's yeah respectable true I mean I just think for the cooling both for cooling like cooling performance and and you know some may be a cosmetic facelift to a degree yeah I mean it was like I would pick up that would pick up the looks if you're if you're gonna invest in something like that yeah at the same time you know if you're gonna spend 150 bucks on something you could upgrade from a 1062 it 1070 well that's just that's all I'm saying before you I'm thinking like I'm talking like a $40 40 to $50 cooler okay whereas the 1070 is gonna cost you a couple hundred jaqen even if you sell the ten set sixty used you're gonna pay a couple hundred for the cars so I'm just saying a quick and easy upgrade in a different league of its own is you know upgrading the cooler to something a little bit more classy okay might not hurt but yes I do agree with Paul that performance wise you should look into upgrading your GPU because of 7,600 case still a great chip it's gonna last you a long time but the 1060 yes that's that's where I'd spend the money cuz all in all you got a nice clean overall build and a nice assortment of hardware - I would say indeed hold on Josh no except we have Rob Rob Rob Rhodes 7700 K and then MSI Izzy 270 gaming m7 motherboard 16 gigs the veal super looky-looky juice 32 speed memory then we'll take 240 a io then we'll take 750 watt RGB power supply 850 Evo 5 degree SSD and when 805 case tough tough cable management so tech 1063 gig mini they got on a Craigslist deal during the GPU apocalypse interesting ok so yeah the kill manager in this case anyone's not known for their cable management yeah that's kind of go grommets rarely ever do they have grah look at the light show though definitely looks pretty sexy lit up yeah kela management could be much improved I think a lot of kind of a haystack going on at the bottom of the case near the power supply it's that and that's I mean it's mostly that area everything else looks pretty well-rounded yeah I would say I think you're doing the like the fact that you're taking a side panel off picture with the flash isn't doing me any favors here yeah but like you know you're doing the best you can with all the cables you got coming off of the thermal take yeah you like those those just tend to have a lot of those so yeah that's rough no I don't know put those cables at the top but about the top so they have to round them awkwardly around the frickin MOSFETs or you know äô itself this a Wi-Fi card maybe as an add-on maybe or maybe I think maybe that's why fine I am uh also okay I don't know obviously you got a good deal on that card it does look a bit dwarfed in this case looks like there's a lot of extra room here and like a fat beefy GPU would just make it look a lot more aggressive again just add wood fill things out and fill things out again I'm just you know with with the whole pimping aspect in mind I guess sighs would would matter to some degree in that regard but everything else looks good it's clean with consistent good job Rob good job thanks for sending that moving on we've got rank rank let's race you're by old rain dizzy dizzy puzzle then FX 6300 overclocked to four gigahertz in stop cooler whoo hyper X 8 gigs 1866 megahertz at GTX 950 which is overclocked that's from EVGA along with an air arrow cyclone that's a one case fan one extra and a $2.00 Walmart LED strip oh sure it's hot sauce it's a five-year old PC so it's a five-year old PC with a few upgrades temperature looking good alright first thing is like how how do you even game or put the system under load without your ears blowing out from that stock a and B cooler because that is one of the loans I mean it's overclocked I don't know what the 6300 runs that stock i it's been a while I forget so I don't know how much of an overclock for Giga here it is but yeah that might that might be loud 3.5 3.5 so it's decent though alright so you got it you got a lot of consideration goes into like you you you're working with limited you know this is a very limited budget system I mean it's actually a decent little balance between the the GPU and the CPU I think in this situation do that cable like yeah that's the main thing standing out to me is your supplemental CPU power going across here and I I'm guessing just the case there's probably no options up here I don't know what else you could do with that if that's the case here an extension might be helpful for you just to give you more routing options to let you go around the side or something like that if you always write under the card on the left side yeah that is an option sometimes to go up that way as well long enough I mean again it's like how much more do you want to invest in this but if you can find something like that yeah for cheap then might be worth considering yeah I think I decided with Paul here any any improvements aesthetically that you could make to this rig you would do so I would suggest you do so as is without spending additional money yeah if you're gonna dump more money into this system at all then I would suggest trading up for a new platform yeah you should be saving for a new system at this point cuz you're five years old yeah but you know I bet I bet at reasonable resolutions and 1080 1080 and 720 this is probably perfectly accurate little gaming system so there you go I would consider if you're gonna invest in something an SSD might give you a little bit more kick out of the system because I do believe he said he's working with 7200 rpm hard drive yeah yeah you could get an SSD like a 240 gig or 480 gig SSD that you could use with this system you know just do a clean operating system install and that would give you more a more responsive overall system and then you carry that SSD over to a new system when you when you upgrade that eventually yeah that's good yeah thanks sir John Polk's we've got John Polk's it's a new build with horizon 2400 gee that's a Raven Ridge APU they're overclocked to 4 gigahertz an 8 gig kit of Corsair lpx he's got an asus rog strix be 350f motherboard with an ml 120 a open cooler master it's got a 250 gig WD SSD in there and it looks like some ll series fans from Corsair this is all taking place inside of a cooler master max master box light 5 ok all right so let's take a look here oh okay kind of like your little compacts in it there it's very spacious yeah efficient and and tears were I will not fault you for the computer being down underneath whoa look at you got it raised up off the ground there yeah you know could be higher well here it can be too much higher because your desk is in the way but you should do a ceiling mounted PC these days yeah but that's that's reasonable the inside of the system looks pretty clean for the most part yeah I would say all right so since your system Mario looks pretty clean we're gonna get nitpicky right so you've got this cable that's kind of coming off of your AAA oh just the I don't know whatever the pump pump cable that's kind of in front of your vrm heatsink maybe tuck that around so that you get a full shot of your heatsink it's not cover it's not overlapping sure and then also where's the GPU no GPU because you have an APU that's fine I'm not gonna say get a GPU because if you don't need one then don't get one but you know what your that's kind of a benefit to you if you want to buy a sleeved extensions because you now have fewer cables to buy um so maybe just one for your 24-pin I mean you know maybe put that money into some sleeves SATA cables you've got three SATA cables here that are very visible especially since there's no like beefy GPU covering them up or anything maybe you know if you wanted to make it a bit more showy to be a very sexy APU build maybe get some sleep extensions for those and it's just me or do the hoses or the AO tubes look a little bit kind of no they're great a little bit they're fine okay and every night I think they're fine they're totally fine again I'm just being nitpicky everything looks great though everything looks great I could see I could see you dropping a I mean depends on what you're using the system for and what games you're playing like if all you if you're playing fortnight this is perfect yeah I could see like a GPU and a cpu upgrade and the system which would take it you know it could take it pretty far but yeah anyway well it's HD PC it's less aesthetic right naturally build up thanks John we've got ant in Italy and that today that right 6700 K H 170 motherboard 16 gigs of vengeance pram geforce gtx 1066 gigabyte gaming x h 75 AO SSD and yeah okay interesting you have an h 170 board but a 6700 K I'm wondering if you've got a really good deal on the CPU yeah any rate yeah um it's not a complete waste the 6700 K runs at a higher frequency than the 6700 but of course yeah different motherboard would would allow you to overclock and you've already got you know are you on there yeah but it's sometimes but maybe you're just not into overclocking could be that what's what's this like this looks like a camera wrist strap attached to the top here in exam it's like a guitar pick or something that you and that GPU sag or something maybe just holding it up yeah it doesn't even look like it's pulled taut really yeah it looks like he's hang in there it's just an artifact he's just you know like people put little figurines and stuff in the ends I think that's what it is you have mismatched front intake fans yeah one red and one white make up the top one red because the case on the fan on top of your case the top of your case is also red so it's already and the white fans already outnumbered might as well just get one more man in there yeah make it all matchy-matchy sleeves extensions would do you wonders here and it looks like not much you can do about that Wi-Fi card and the cables coming come on yeah well I mean if you have some more space behind the motherboard tray could pull some cables back you know your things up a little bit really but yeah that's that front fan this is the main thing that's me altogether a very solid build thank you very much an athlete and that concludes my half of the show yay Wow we made it through without did passing out I guess we could still do some Q&A and Jonathan's okay alright let's do all right are we gonna answer questions or we it's alright fine this answer question there aren't too many good good i'll in the interest of time here because pollen eyes brains are ticking against the clock do do not accept any more donations no more any questions that you guys have that you want to do if you were about to donate this able for pulse after yeah just when you cut off and we'll continue on Tom's brims Mitzvah Norwegian krone a long time no see started cleaning dust out of my PC but ended Maudie ended up modding my evolve ATX and started to upgrade starting upgrade project to ptg from soft to be nice that sounds great also Paul HTPC yes it's coming that is 2020 where I thought about that today 2025 I'm thinking about it made me feel very very fulfilling all the time teddy tiger $20 Wow thank you sir or madam hopefully we will be buying hopefully we'll be buying a rising to rig in the near future but I'd love to meet you guys sometime and geek out buy you a beer until then use this $20 to buy something worthwhile take care of guys thanks teddy you know until I give you a beer Cal grab that oh I'm on it red or black well grab the whole thing okay we're gonna pound all three right now right I just whenever we drink beers that are sentient people yes I always feel bad for not remembering who sent it in so I put this this is this is from guts from Kansas City these beers are fantasy nights in a milk step nitro six-pack but that's that no that's not what it is they're immune excel Brown lagers KC beer company so there's a Hefeweizen Google dumped cold and the dry hopped farmhouse ale okay I was thinking there's some joint milk Johnson 21 I'm gonna try the brown lager that sounds interesting I'm gonna do that too and it's Munich style you're just in Germany that's true it's so relevant all right Thank You Gus thank you guys free treatment thank you very much Teddy tiger for your generous donations MB 67 $13 37 cents welcome back I enjoyed seeing your social media posts from the places that I used to frequent back in the day nope nice glad you enjoyed them I was pretty good about social media on this trip I was posting frequently to Instagram doing lots of stories and Twitter not quite as frequently but definitely got some tweets in there it can be it can be very easy when you're having fun and traveling to forget about social media just you know you're it's kind of counterintuitive you're like trying to unplug and get away but then you're like no I should be somewhat working connecting with the viewers and stuff so I'm glad you guys I'm glad MB you enjoy both the post that Paula never making mainly mine yuk nut $4.99 put this towards an RT X 2080 CGI yes now we're one very small step closer to affording a thousand dollar-plus graphics cards that's good every level every little bit helps where you can just wait for videos in this one Thank You Huck nut Daniel Mullings 5 euro hey I'm familiar with the euro is just using this how do you think the 2070 will stack up against the 1080 especially with no release date well 2 euros here to eurozone 2070 they said October they did say October so to play out I think well against the 1080 against the 1080 I think it will outperform the 1080 but maybe not the 1080i I think it will be somewhere in between that's a pretty big gap from the 10 agents and Ti you know it's decent jump it's a bigger jump than 10 72 1080 that's for sure it's hard to say though it's really hard to say if you look at the price which is what 79927 t27 D is supposed to be able to be bought for $4.99 oh I'm thinking over the chinnis 120 81 $5.99 for the not for the founders edition or or or for other more expensive versions at $4.99 I which is about the same price as a 1080i yeah so you would think it would perform in the same range yes yes again my guess is somewhere between 1080 and 1080i which side it leans more towards remains to be seen but we'll have that information for you seen enough thank you very much mr. Daniel Mullins next we have Tom's brims myths 15 or we Crona once again probably will end up upgrading to 20 atti from an IE DCI and I think prices are okay and I'm thinking upgrading to 7700 K from 7600 K or latest i7 is worth it if you're asking if it's worth upgrading from city 7 educated or to 7700 K from 7600 I don't think so Wow sorry they rarely freak out like that you need to go in doggie timeout sorry about that guys you loud mother effers alright Paul brought down the hammer and the dog Jenelle quiet oh the camera moved oh why did you call him back in here geez we just can't win so I think if you're buying a 20 atti then don't upgrade your 7600 k2 and lowly 7700 K especially if you're saying that the 2080 I pricing isn't an issue for you go with the 9999 hundred K or or horizon seven 2700 X that would be my my advice curse this is all speculative and we wouldn't recommend doesn't really start where before you actually see these on it well of course not we're not Tom's Hardware that alright so Mike booth $10 you advised me on starting a PC building business last year did we okay I started I hope that's going well I started build bit build code UK and I've uploaded some PC builds to YouTube including one for a guy that works on Doctor Who no nice thanks channel is bit build I like that I like it because it sounds like it starts with the same three letters as my channel so it's obviously pretty good everyone go check out bit build on YouTube and and you know what be an active member of this community watch one of his videos maybe one of the recent ones and let him know how he could maybe improve if there's a knee you know think you can help them with constructive criticism is always appreciated I assume he needs to improve because no one's perfect Paul are you perfect do you never need maybe you not need to improve are you saying you never need to improve very great what's the talk about no cool perfect Paul wasn't talking about himself that's a surprise I there's lots of ways I could be better no I I don't know that that's just what I would want for myself so I was offering the same thing to Mister bit build but I was just I was just looking for a way to criticize every constructive criticism on your suggestion to offer constructive criticism true true criticism ception at any rate thank you very much Mike booth I hope your channel we need to move on and do my half of the show before I lose the ability all right we're gonna go we're gonna go into the sixth gear here nordic gapper or - $10 $1 pampered either a stay ray-traced fam let's hope that it's phrase never catches on I get here thank you very much mister gapper you need the r-tx ops hell up Rams I wonder if that's your real last name that'd be freaking awesome $10 hey guys welcome back any chance Ram prices Rams has a question about Ram a little brain drop anytime soon I've been tact trekking the same 16-gigabyte kit I bought a year ago and it's still in the same it's the same tutor dollar price tag a new egg thanks I don't know if rain rain prices will drop no I don't think so I mean no science I don't know it's hard to say but right now if they it seems like if they hadn't dropped and with with news and stuff that's come out in the past couple months maybe they're just kind of stuck but you know I don't know yeah there you might just want to bite the bullet and spend the money but just do it yeah use me you can buy a kid I ran for maybe 170 if you look hard enough maybe 150 if you're lucky Black Friday's coming up this Larson 100 dick with DKK Dutch Danish Dean okay okay at any rate 100 of something you've given us love what you do what would you guys do Thanks I love what you donate which is 100 DKK Danish clearly Danish Krone thank you very much soon soon eh sorry mr. 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