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six or five seconds now all right that should be good hello world welcome back to awesome hardware this is episode 161 you're watching side B side a was just broadcast to Paul's channel you can check it out in the link in my video description if you're watching on youtube stay where you are if you're on Twitch welcome back everyone this is a live show that Poe and I do every single Tuesday and we like to have a few drinks on the show while we're at it so cheers to all of you out there thanks for joining us you can also feel free to support us on either of our stores where we sell the highest of qualities of merchandise is my story is bid with tech that sentence made total several text or or you just got a bit with tech it'll take you to the the front page which is the store shirts mouse pads hoodies all that stuff store for Paul is Paul's Harbor net some pretend that he sells a lot of the same things but with his logos and his designs you should buy 10 of everything on both sites and we'll yell Johnson at you later on also we can we occasionally use adult language so if you have little ones around or sensitive hearing be warned adult language is coming your way although I don't think we actually custom my half we we went the whole time it might have said one or two maybe no I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention never just happen so naturally don't do it but ok let's just dive right in shall we with some news generic general tech news starting with a OC the panel maker curved they just released a series of new curved displays that are aimed at a sub I budget gaming market so if you're a hundred and forty-four Hertz free sink for 230 bucks it's actually pretty darn good this is an article from Tom's Hardware so take it with a grain of salt so they're obviously recommending that you buy these monitors I'm pre-order immediately before the videos come out they're also the best monitors ever to exist I mean when your life flashes before your eyes do you really want it to be without 144 Hertz um at any rate look there's a complete later video embedded in the article and and if you scroll down to get away from it it'll pop up in the lower thirds it's beautiful all right so a OC announced four of their g1 series curved gaming monitors these are pretty affordably priced here as I mentioned the specs for all of these panels all four panels regardless of the screen size they all feature free sync okay they're all 144 Hertz one millisecond response time 3,000 to 1 contrast ratio the models are as follows there's a 32-inch c3 to g1 a 27-inch CT c27 g1 and the 24-inch c24 g1 these are all equipped with the VA panels 27 24 32 inch yep and those are all 1920 by 1080 and then the the one that I guess the flagship monitor if you will is a 32 inch cq3 2g one boasts a higher quad HD resolution of 2560 by 1440 so these are all 1080p monitors except that flagship 32 inch but there is a 32 inch 1920 by 1080 panel as well these are all 16 by 9 as I mentioned and the I should mention that the curvature on the 24 inch model is 1500 hours so it's actually the most curvaceous of the of the bunch the others feature a slightly less aggressive curve of 1800 are the panels each have a single display port or I'm sorry a decent port one DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 1.4 and a 3.5 millimeter jack the stands also feature the sort of triplet of swivel tilt and and and what is it height adjustment it has a D so it does have a decent for some odd reason not sure okay maybe for troubleshooting or SAT so you've backwards compatibility yeah yeah who knows it's got a hundred by hundred base amounts as well if you want to put it on a you know third-party stand or something like that three-year warranty as of now only the 27-inch c-27 g1 is available on Newegg for two hundred and seventy nine ninety nine so 27 inch 1080p 144 hertz freesync 279 not too shabby you've got 24 inch and the 32 inch both 32 inches one that's quite easy one that's full HD will retail for two $29.99 for the 24 inch $2.99 for the 32 inch 1080p model and 399 which is clearly the most expensive here 400 bucks for that quad HD 32 inch panel so some some sweet offerings from AOC those three models that I just listed off will be available later this year did you say what what the panel technology was VA it's VA okay ba panel right so it's kind of nice in between between you know TN and IPS yes all right so let's let's move along here on this next article is from extrude no 8 it's from an antic sorry I don't know I just kind of sifted through this article kind of briefly because it's you know it's an antique so there's a lot of detail here this is the stuff that we reported might be a rumor last week yes and now it's true so it's all it's all out there are four new rising CPUs that have just launched very exciting stuff we've got the rise in seven 2700 which is an 8 core 16 thread part at 2.8 gigahertz to four to four gigahertz what's interesting about this chip and the one that follows is their TDP 45 watts this is the lowest TDP that we've ever seen on these mainstream Verizon CPUs that's pretty cool actually it's really especially with the 4 gig 4 gigahertz turbo the fact that we're not really seeing much of a down clock from its it's full 100 105 watt TDP counterparts the 2700 X it's like it's pretty damn good yeah pretty damn good I'm actually considering now that this is out I'm considering swapping out my 2700 X in the little Dan case build for this for this because it was if you watch the video today that I posted today is getting a little hot even with that 92 millimeter a i/o on there it's get a little too hot for my liking I was thinking about swapping it out for the 2700 but now I might just go for the 2700 II and and just make thermals even less no problem you'd be like chilly in there super chilly probably turn the fan speed down and stuff and that would also be cool because we could do some compare testing to see what kind of performance difference there is going from a 105 watt tbp chip to a 45 watt TDP chip and seeing you know if that if that makes much of a difference there there's also the risin 5 2600 e 6 cores 12 threads 3.1 to 4 gigahertz again pretty nice pretty keeping in with those relatively high boost clocks again at 45 Watts TDP Wow not too bad and then you've got two others these next two SKUs are 65 watt TDP you've got the risin 5 2500 X which is a 4 core 8 thread part so you get SMT boosting up to 4 gigahertz once again now this is this will actually have half the l3 cache as the 2600 e at 8 megabytes and then finally we have the rise in 3 2300 x4 core 4 thread part no SMT and that's gonna boost up to 4 gigahertz once again 65 Watts TDP and again we have 8 megabytes of l3 compared to the horizon 3 1300 X which had double that at 16 megabytes so why is there less cash on the 2500 X and the 2300 X well all the first gen rising processors were using parts from both of the on-die CC X's but with this wave of CPUs and ease chosen to use a single CCX cluster and but they're still saying that these chips are bound to perform 8 to 10 percent higher or better than their last gen counterparts so single CC X and there's also probably a little bit of latency or that's that's not that's not prevalent anymore yeah I mean that does that's one of the reasons why high-speed memory is good with Rison is because the Infinity fabric is gonna operate at the same speed that your memory is running it and communication between the CC X's a little bit of latency which was one of the complaints with game performance so it would be interested to see how this is how that's how that's affected with this since we know they're actually only using one cc X or the other yeah so good stuff these these are definitely not CPUs to be overlooked this is not I mean I feel like these launched relatively quietly yeah they're molar I got sampled for them or anything like that there wasn't like some big embargo that I did for ice reviewers but I think the reason the pricing isn't listed here is because these aren't gonna be retail CPUs at least I'm pretty sure that's the case for the 2500 X to 2300 X the X ones that are on here right look like system integrators yes and they're going straight to system integrators yeah that make sense yep you'll probably still be able to buy them but not but just not maybe you like tray CPUs or OEM like where you get just a CPU by itself right maybe not retail package with that and I'm gonna try to get my hands on one I'll buy a freaking pre-built from cyber cooler whatever the fuck if I have to yeah cyber power might as well be wandering all right let's move on tech spot tech spot with the article about Nvidia keeping their GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti through the holiday season so basically Pascal and touring for the rest of 2018 will coexist will coexist but not compete but not compete that's that's an important Asterix there and videos CFO Colette kress confirmed that for the rest of the year the Turing based r-tx 2080 TI r TX 2080 and the r TX 2070 cards will be sold alongside the 10 series Pascal GTX cards and I quote we will be selling probably for the holiday season both are Turing and our Pascal overall architecture remember Turing is a leap forward in terms of overall capabilities the performance improvement is much greater than the overall price that basically translates to these cards the Turing cards are going to be really expensive basically what she's saying now bear in mind they're gonna be really expensive but it's because the performance will justify the price and therefore it will not compete with the Pascal cards so if you really want the bit the best you know cutting edge shit you better buy some touring cars now Turing's and say spry insane price tag will hopefully be justified by its stellar performance she actually had a bold statement here will likely see a 2x improvement without even dealing with overall ray tracing your existing games in terms of existing performance did she just say that Turing is gonna be twice as fast I just don't see that happening and if so able to say this why didn't they say that during the announcement it's almost regulation it is and it in heightened a lot of hype on NVIDIA side which you know I get it that's their job he's also the CFO which yeah she could be completely down with all the technical specs of the views themselves but CFO is financial and you you might not necess like she could easily be a very good CFO and not really know anything about the performance she's just reading off a spec sheet like Tom Peterson wrote up for but it actually says like 2x the price of tends to performance or something like that who knows I'm sure she's very well informed but again I wouldn't even expect I would expect someone on the technical side to even be hyping up RT X as much as it has been the launch is September 20th 20th so by then we'll probably have a better idea of the performance yeah we haven't even received our cards yet so I I have no idea and even if I did I couldn't tell you we're sending you five each card again just show it to him script new space all right Randall Jensen also pointed out if the quote is up to two times the performance then that could be very low yeah absolutely good point all right hexxus brings us an article about how a bunch of belgian nerds hacked of Tesla Model S in seconds what's with Belgium and today I don't know man crazy alright there's their stuff there's something in the chocolate there they're denying loot boxes there hacking Tesla's yeah we can't who are these guys how's this work how can I steal Tesla - so you could you and your family can easily still steal a Tesla Model S in seconds using the same technique that these nerds at call them nerds their researchers are very smart at kayuu Leuven University in Belgium found a way to unlock and drive off with a Tesla Model S in mere seconds they spent just around $600 on off-the-shelf parts which included a couple radio sensors and a Raspberry Pi and then they basically created this proof-of-concept hack that involves getting it apparently involves like of like a pointless Instagram bolter pointless Instagram filter for the entire video this contrast yeah yeah that's fine that looks kind of stylized yeah dude parks his Tesla so he's kind of hooking he's hooking his little MacGyver device up here okay all right and then he I don't know what he did there he I think he's sinking it oh he's finding that he's finding the unlock code now that's the owner sitting on the the bench or whatever just like on the rail that's not paying so he just wirelessly acquired his the unlock codes from that owners key fob the key fob is the Achilles heel in this hack and so within seconds his little MacGyver device can actually retrieve the the unlock codes off the key fob and then once he brings it to the unlock sensor in the car by the bing bada boom you don't really need a physical key to drive it to a Model S so he just drives off like that the to be more specific the reason why the the key fob is so weak here is because it was previously only using a 40-bit cipher or it was using 40 bit ciphers to encrypt the messages and send the lock and unlock codes so the researchers basically compiled all the possible key combinations and stored them in a six terabyte lookup table and so once that guy walks up in and gets in within proximity of the owners key fob it could just quickly go through cycle through all the possibilities until it finds the one within about 1.6 seconds and finds the correct unlock code and it's on it's on the dudes device at that point you can just walk over to the car and it thinks it's the key fob so the key fob needs one of those things it's like are you a robot with a little check o CAPTCHA yeah these all captured the guy just struggles leads to ask the car that every time but if it's a caption that's like are you a human trying to hack this car [Laughter] check check all of the boxes that have pictures of cars cars that you wouldn't steal so good guy no now now these you gotta commend these Belgians all right Belgium Ian's for Wobblies fractious waffle waffles I love the chocolate the fries you know Belgians they invented the fry he's gotta give him credit they did they did I learned that I learned that when I was in Belgium we're aren't economists they're elgin fries i don't know because americans are ignorant apparently xopen don't like to give credit where credit's due surprised we don't call American fries speaking of giving credit where credit's due hey thanks Gus from Kansas City you gusy guy we're sending the beers that we have been drinking so far today from KC beer company oh yeah we finish these Bavarian style wheat ale and dry hopped farmhouse house ale they were really good actually good I love them I'm not a huge fan of wheat beers but that one was really good I'll open it yep thank you yes Oh oh yeah me too me too we're just switching over to some milk stuff here from left hand so I will say yeah we got freedom fries you're right you're right we got we call them freedom fries here and true American fashion so the good guy Belgians they actually brought this hack to Tesla and Tesla actually gave them like 10 grand for em it's like a good Good Samaritan like a thanks right hats then yeah their total weight hats and they could have just stolen like all the Model S's which is what I would have done so they're much better people than me but they're in Tesla so here's how we figured this out you know cool all right oh thank you so much by the way anyone who parked their tests in the lot today I'll have to walk home I want to make sure you have so because of these guys Tesla took their information their research and they improve the key fob to make it more secure so any model s that was sold after or since June of this year is no longer can no longer be affected by this hack but older Tesla's the owners for those they can actually choose to pay for an upgraded fob that's more secure that can't be so easily hacked I think Tesla should just give them away for free because that's I don't know if that's that's their bad it does seem like that's something they should just be like yeah we'll send you that it actually it seems like that's something Tesla should just send all the people who own my old model exactly a new key fob exactly and say here use this yeah it's totally yeah but there's also the option now to turn on a pin to protect against the hacking method so even if they can get into the car there's still a pin you have to enter before you can drive it which I guess it prevents them from stealing your car but they get still like take a shit in your driver's seat rank just the factory open your doors which I'm sure like they go through all the trouble of setting of like hacking together whatever technology is needed maybe so this wireless thing that they used they get in the car like well I can't steal it shit well at least I can take dump inducible driver's seat that was Plan B as nearly as lucrative just takes slightly less time to pay off if you can't steal it shit investment for your hardware there you go all right good stuff and then our final story here for tech news it is about as once again from hexxus this is all over the place though this year this today this year LG's OLED TVs have been tested to show burnin image burnin after just four thousand hours Wow even when LG has previously stated that you could go 30,000 plus hours before any image burnin really occurred 48 minute video our team am i pronouncing that right our team's great earnings it's just our t ing s all caps honestly I'm not sure our teens are whatever our teens I'm whole marketing's they do the test you watch their video maybe they say their name I didn't actually I watched part of the video but it has 48 minutes come on oh fuck that um they did a test that tried to simulate natural but accelerated viewing behavior of TVs of six different TVs over the last half US over the last six months six units that you see on the screen there we're playing were turned on for five hours then they were turned off for an hour and that was repeated four times a day so they're turning on turning off turning on turning off each TV have been running for four thousand hours in total after this six-month test and if you see that the images here look at the the pink one down there you can see that the two left screens were running CNN the whole time anytime they were on they were tuned to CNN they have burned it indeed the burn didn't fake news the lower thirds horrible news is unavoidable here the one at the top is worse than the one on the bottom because the one on the top is max brightness the one on the bottom is running at 200 nits okay the other four are also 208 so slightly lower brightness but they were running a variety of things including pixels American football was on one yet live NBC another FIFA 18 gameplay which was the the video game that Paul is just talking about on his half and call of duty World War two was on another one you can see it's the burden on those four aren't nearly as bad as the CNN and because there is constant movement assistant logo in the same place yeah they did say if there is a slight burnin of the FIFA 18 logo which I couldn't really spot from the images maybe it's more visible in person but this is definitely a concern if you have a super expensive LG OLED panel yeah and you watch a lot of CNN clearly yeah I would never do a video on an lg tv that's why it's part of my part of your and just just standards I'm just kidding your integrity hey that they make some good products they make you did a video on the there wasn't no an OLED though was it no it was a nano nano so how does the Nano so nano cells are okay yeah those don't burn n no burnin they don't look quite as pretty but hey I'd rather have a product that lasts than one that's gonna fizzle out maybe it looks a little better or even a lot better this is all this segment has basically been an ad for the lg nano cell televisions buy them instead of the shitty OLED versions yes which cost more hashtag at all right well I would be so more on a slightly more serious note though yep OLED is supposed to be the the kind of holy grail of display technology so this is a bit concerning for anyone who is considering dropping a significant amount of cash on an OLED display whether you're talking about a TV or the 4k OLED monitors that have been teased for like three or four years but never seemed to actually launch I wonder if that's one of the reasons yeah like are they dealing with mms with burnin issues cuz those I would have to think so those are problems with earlier with like plasmas right plasmas well susceptible to that and earlier TV technologies so I guess and and remember the well was it no was it the pixel to excel that had the burnin issues but that was that an OLED with the the bar at the bottom yeah was that an OLED there's a pixel to it yeah most most high ends small small format displays on phones or oullette right or right so it's definitely a concern and that's probably a huge reason why we don't see any OLED displays like monitors gaming monitors right I kind of wonder though if it's possible or if in the future we might see sort of a like a hybrid panel technology where like the panel is like IPs when you're like at your desktop or browsing the web but as soon as you kick into a game application it switches to OLED and that way like since there's constant motion or movement on screen the burnin is significantly reduced or whatever that would be kind of interesting I don't know if that's even possible but like the future is crazy from a conceptual standpoint conceptual yeah but I feel like the cost of having essentially two displays in the single display would be would be defeating to that being a viable product hey hey nvidia gpus will be 5,000 a piece at that point yeah it'll it'll just be you guys must be for rich people we really care about is what rich people can buy or or let's that's who or watches our show - or what samples room are you rich people at home see for free hey most of you have probably already gone through two or three of these LG oled tvs oh yeah absolutely just burn them like running like camels start we're about 9000 series this is new segment no next segment it's not new but next this is leaks we don't have a lower thirds oh we have winners we have wieners so that'll have to do for now but this is actually leaked week's segment we've got two articles here first one from WCC of tech this fairly quick the Intel Core i $9.99 hundred k eight core beast from intel has yet again had some leaks this time with 3d mark time spy the benchmark has leaked out at the stock clock speeds the cpu scored ten thousand nine hundred and ten points and in an FPS of thirty six point six eight in the cpu tests from the same dude on twitter to up beside weird weird where did he get all this other shit and how does he how is he so bold to just post everything look he's got like a typical Computex booth babe picture like he's one of the dudes that goes around he's in Bangkok Thailand I can't like these booth babes though cuz they're never covered ever revealing outfits and they'll have super soakers that's fun dangerous like are they gonna they gonna shoot me I don't know or you think it's all like well it's fine cuz they're all covered up and not scantily clad like most of them they're gonna shoot each other with those super soakers and it's gonna be like a wet t-shirt contest then they'll start making out at the end that's am I wrong but only if they want to I'm not and it's consensual I won't look and look for so so okay what so okay so I just read off we got totally sidetracked there by boo stock clocks all right at the stock clock frequency the 9900 K ten thousand nine hundred ten points there was also a manual overclock recorded to four point eight gigahertz which scored eleven thousand four hundred and fifty nine points and a slightly higher FPS of 38.5 compared to thirty six point six eight what are we talking about the manual overclock that this dude did on the nine hundred K these are the scores you're talking about right now I don't think it's listed there I think just by ya know he's got 2,700 X 900 K I don't think he has the the manual or the manually overclocked score isn't there okay cuz he got eleven thousand something in that one but at any rate his manual OC scores were not that impressive they weren't that much higher than the stock clock frequencies the stock clock scores but that's because he only overclocked it to four point eight the ninety nine hundred K already boosts on all cores to four point seven so he really only manually overclocked it one hundred megahertz more which is at first I was like wow that overclock sucks you know these things ever clock like shit or whatever that you don't feel better performance out of him but that's just because he did a really really like the lowest over manual overclock that you possibly can he just wanted to say and here's overclocked numbers yeah I don't know why so it also leads me to believe that maybe this is all think again these are leeks grain of salt comparatively in overclocked Rison 2700 X at 4.45 gigahertz scores 10,000 285 points which is lower than the stock 9900 k scores I mean I feel like this is not too surprising with the higher instructions per clock of these Intel chips the 9900 case stock is still ahead blah blah and yeah you can expect even higher scores I think when when users start manually overclocking the retail chips of the 900k because those should theoretically be able to push past the five gigahertz mark which will be I think submit significant over the four point seven gigahertz boost out of the box and especially when you're talking about eight cores right so you can expect a nitrogen family and z 390 chipset to arrive come October this year if all goes smoothly I don't have an exact date on that I just know October October 8 I like that this guy's name when he submitted his score was slick Nick favorite slick Nick favorite it just sounds like total Engrish that's a good one like we can see that on a certain in Taiwan or something alright moving on to our final article of the day Rison 720 800 x uu 10 cores yeah you had to wonder when they did a 2700 X versus the previous generations 1800 X hmm if there was a 2800 X mhm in the waiting in the wings 10 core and yet this one has two more cores and four more threads this is a poor headline AMD risin 7 2800 x10 processor 10 yeah that's weird why does it say 10 processor intent there's 10 processors in this processor seen this processor setting before 10 process I think it's a typo it's not a typo that's a word no no no a typo like they meant to say 10 core processor that's considered a typo so this el el el chapo sus informatica released a Cinebench screenshot featuring a 10 core rise in cpu yielding and multi-threaded score of around 20 130 which is quite a bit higher than the 8 core 2700 X no single threaded scores were shown but OC 3d did lead with there opinion that this is probably thinking yes they did I will give them that credit that should be noted the 2800 X score is suspiciously close to a 70 900 X from Intel one of their core e9 chips which means fake which is also a 10 core which is also a 10 core yes you still don't think so huh really well it says when you pop a rise in 2700 X in your system and you run Cinebench it'll say risin 7 2700 X what does this say risin are seven interesting how suspicious also the 2700 X is listed in Cinebench as in 8 core processor this however just says 10 core processor Prosser maybe it's getting cut off but but but the verbage here the point is the verbage here is not it's not consistent I consisted with the real deal ok consistent and it's faulty if you want even more proof if you're still not convinced and you just you have that wishful thinking but I really want there to be an 8/10 core resin CPU right now no let me kill your dreams even further and tell you that AMD CCX units the CCX units that AMD is used only come in sets of four making the next step up from eight cores logically being 12 cores not 10 cores they would have to they would have to like you know cut off some of the cores off of one of the CC X's which AMD is not known for doing they like to use the same number of cores per cc X so for example for their six core chips what do they do they do 3 plus 3 right or 4 plus 4 for the 8 core chips and so forth except for the ones you talked about earlier that they just launched where they didn't do that and they just use one half of the CC X unit you shut up that's this is irrelevant and totally not quiet Paul I was on a roll kill my parade random I pray here so a 10 chord rise and shit right now seems pretty unlikely they would probably not aimed he probably isn't thinking about creating a whole new architecture for a single SKU rather this is probably just fake and why did we even talk about this article then if though if we knew going into it that ability fake because we figured yeah it would feel time and blast she text to put in the headline did shit tons of views draw people in you should get money get paid right - their hopes that's what we're about cool all right alright so this is it that you're gonna gonna twist that into like a positive at the end but no no literally I speak the tries lies and falsehoods well hasn't deception what this great channel is built on ridin it around alright so that's my half y'all how long was that not bad Kyle yeah pretty short actually oh really wait what when do we start that's probably about 30 minutes we started like 620 okay yeah yeah we're good that's fine half an hour that was good five minutes longer doesn't mean mine had any less substance now yet plugging a substance I mean I have had plenty of substances substantial alright so what are we doing right now we're we're ending the show ending a house show but don't go anywhere or actually if you're on YouTube right now you should go to twitch.tv slash awesome hardware don't tell YouTube that we told you to do that they get mad angry slightly confused but go to twitch.tv slash awesome hardware right now because there's an after party oh I felt like got a little bit of while in there I'll come okay man I've been hanging out with them too much didn't know that that could just cheer up like like we had been building her like a split personality that you've suppressed for years and you yeah it's starting to like disassociate creepy um alright so go to twitch on TV slash off some hardware where we will be doing a little after-party yep having some fun answering some of the questions that you guys have sent out from your donations 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