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Awesome Hardware #0169-B: Xbox One Gets KBM Support, ITX RTX! PRE-Black Friday Deals

2018-11-13
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or you know Eastern branch and they whatever it was it was November 14th or 15th where they were and they just didn't realize we're actually releasing this early from the western market time changes are tricky so the page actually lists a November 15th launch day and I should mention that the power color page that was initially reported on is now taken down yeah so we can't see that we can just kind of see the regurgitating stuff here from other sites but was it was listing in November 15th launch date so if you guys were interested in rx 590 you should be able to purchase one in two days from now so so that's the thing the card itself if you want to take a closer look at the red devil is obviously on the twelve nanometer process here we've got twenty three hundred and four stream processors a boost clock of fifteen hundred and seventy-six megahertz which is quite a bit higher than what you'd find out on rx 580 and this is to be expected with the the die shrink and that sort of thing we also have a 256-bit memory interface eight plus six pin power connectors and a six plus one multi-phase design with a 605 you'll probably knew the 650 watt power supply to drive this guy that's what it said which was a little bit high in my opinion I thought it was it was higher than I expected it to be I think it rx 580 is like 600 maybe even less so I'm not exactly sure I mean you know obviously with with higher clock speeds you might generate more heat but you should also be more power efficient you would think with with the die shrink that way so it could also be technical error or a typo or whatever on the website so that's a green easel or factory overclock did the rumors the frequencies are significantly higher especially if you confirm to like what the 480 was originally shipping at oh yeah 480 my one at the 40 come out two years ago to two years yeah yeah so so yeah but but power color has not been the only ad board partner to sort of leak some of these these photos here we also have as rocks rx 590 phantom x OC which has been pictured courtesy of overclocked 3d net and it says that the the PCB and the cooler seem to be pretty identical to the rx right there there are X file ad phantom gaming X models so nothing terribly new here and you it's it's still more or less the same same kind of architecture that we deal with so I wouldn't say you know I wouldn't expect any crazy new designs adding board partners aren't going to go out of their way and create a bunch of new tooling for for the RX 590 as evident is here take a single 8-pin single 8-pin connector which also tells you that it's probably a little bit more low powered than the red devil that we just saw which had an 8 plus 6 pin power connector configuration this is also slated for on November 15 release and you know it looks it looks cool looks you know it's color neutral it's got a dual fan heatsink design currently open shroud a couple red accents there so I'm still just getting used to as ROC graphics cards yeah it's definitely interesting I have an idea to actually hold one in my hands or test one oh it's it's an amazing experience I'm sure it's spiritual those life-changing never be the same afterwards touches you in ways that XFX has also leaked some some photos of their RX v 9d fat boy that boy this officially wins the award for coolest name for an Edinburgh partner card video cards dot-com has has given us an information about this card looks identical to XFX is existing rx 580 GTS series doesn't seem to be any apparent differences this also has an 8 + 6 pin connection leading us to believe that this might clock around the same as we saw with the Red Devil 1600 megahertz boost clock frequency that's actually higher I should say than the Red Devil so that's cool and you get a full backplate full coverage backplate okay I'm not sure if that doesn't dissipation for you there but look at fat copper heat pipe yeah everything about this card is just so fat very fat it's a thick it's a thick boy alright so cool all right 590 you know what you're basically looking at is maybe of 5 to 10 percent performance uplift better power efficiency higher clocks you're probably gonna see performance that's better than a GTX 1060 but not quite as good as it as a GTX 1070 so somewhere in between there but hopefully for the price or maybe not much more than the GTX 1060 so it kind of it kind of fills the gap between the 1062 1070 to some degree for a reasonable price I think right now though you know as as price with this price I think two ad I saw two ad but I could that with thousands from the article okay spec spec speculative speculative pricing speculative pricing was saying 280 to 300 that's where that's at least where would have to fall in order to stay competitive with the type of performance that's expected of it that sounds very legitimate if it was outside of that range then I don't know what AMD is really doing and no I'm not breaking any NDA III don't I don't have no idea what the pricing of this card is gonna be legitimately so I'm just I'm just kind of spitballing here and I thought it's probably not even this is probably all elaborate ruse probably no it's probably no such thing as an RX 590 you know this is basically a unicorn that we've we've crafted with our imaginations um let's see who fools came either really later really earlier this year let's move on though that said video cards calm once again came up with an article about the GTX 1060 particularly the I game GTX 1060 you top v2 I don't think this is a card available in the US because I've never seen this but perhaps overseas and a lot of people were speculating that this card was just sort of magical in a way because it featured gddr5 X memory so people were like wait how does a GTX 1060 feature to do terrified X memory well the the truth is that it kind of doesn't that's not that's not actually the case here instead of rather a GTX 1060 this is really using a gene P 104 cut down GP 104 GPU which is found on the GTX 1060 that's you know I'm sorry ten eighty seven eighty ten eighty sorry that has as few as half of its cores completely disabled huh so it's almost like they had like a week batch Nvidia had a really weak batch of GTX ten 80s or GP 104 s I should say and they're like you know we shouldn't probably use this for our ten 80s and so they're like hey we could just allocate this for you know a gtx 1060 and brand it with the gtx or actually have gddr5 X memory attached to it so that's kind of cool it's it's also kind of weird because the card still has SLI fingers on it because it's the same PCB as a GTX 1080 I wouldn't think that you could still SLI they've probably disabled that somehow they probably lasered that off or something like that but it's also kind of weird cuz there's dual eight pins have you ever seen dual a depends on a GTX 10:16 no so so so how much are they trying to sell this for like that like it didn't unless I missed it unless I just like not really in the know pricing was over I didn't see any pricing yeah it couldn't be that much more than a standard GTX tens people who are thinking that they can somehow hack into it and enable the disabled cores no you can't you can't resurrect lasered off course it's just not possible it's a hardware thing they just they they laser that shit off so there's no BIOS update or anything from where update that you could use to get more performance out of this guy yeah it's interesting to see what what price this will actually go for and it probably won't even be in USD because I've never heard of I think I have her I have heard of AI game I've just never seen it sold here in the States but there you go in case you guys were freaking out wondering how Nvidia pulled this off did that that's how that's how it's done chitty-chitty chitty-chitty GP 104 wafers become 10 60s with gddr5 acts and then moving on here we have one more graphics card story for today a lot of GPU news this is from overclocked 3d and it's talking about the new Aero ITX this is the first ITX r-tx card from nvidia ITX RT RT x 2070 Aero i TX i t XR TX there's a lot of t axis so many TX is nowadays Krabs it of the same product name and look at how cute it is single card heat sink design fairly open shroud and hey this will be really great and in like you know a Dan case like a Dan case a for this would do superbly and something like that or just a really tiny mini ITX build that you're trying to if I'm if I may offer complaints and I was thinking about this when I was handling my gigabyte RT X 20 80 TI earlier today which is a $1200 graphics card the the 20 70s it's still very expensive what are they seven seven twenty seven so he 705 500 600 yeah it's still 500 in system yeah this is a design that I've seen MSI use maybe not this exact as I am at a very similar version of it I'm like much cheaper cards this is probably a plastic shroud yeah whatever but it's like the base level designs for the 2070 in the 20 80 and the 20 80 TI they do the things that you would expect for the entry-level designs with cards like if you're gonna get a really cheap GTX 1063 gig you know there's just yeah they need to make a card that they can produce for less money right seeing that you could see that here perfect card that you're starting prices over 500 bucks for yeah it's just like a yeah it's because they're in such high demand and because there's no competition in this space yeah those are the main two reasons and it's it's almost like you you can kind of fault it at Atia for but at the same time it's it's more of just like the big picture like this is just the landscape of the situation and you know it's it's good business there if you if you read a business textbook this is what it says to do if you're in invidious position where you don't have any competitors in a certain space you can you you can you have a bit more flexibility with how much you charge for product maximise profit maximize profits you know uh maximize margins all of that lower overhead so yeah and I feel like this is gonna appeal to a very niche market anyway someone who's looking for a small tiny little systems trying to be lightweight and and you know small footprint as possible what's unfortunate about this particular card is that it looks like it is not factory overclocked from any markings that we can tell on the box which means that it's probably gonna be it's probably gonna underperform compared to the founders Edition r-tx 2070 which which is more common but that would also mean if it is shipping at those base clock speeds that they could sell it for 500 bucks the lowest price that you're allowed to sell 2074 true yeah and striction czar you have to so that would also mean that would use the not - a version current of the GPU yeah so yeah and you could still overclock it and stuff but hopefully you you know they would sell it for I think I think this article also mentioned that that we're expecting this card to come in as soros pricing is concerned at the low end of the r-tx 2070 so you know you kind of get what you pay for it kind of balances out there the other thing was there's no display link some people will care some people won't notice play link on the rear i/o 480 arm so if you were planning to connect a next-gen VR headset this isn't an issue now because even current gen VR headsets don't have that yet but if you were planning to upgrade to something later than the line you want to do some VR with this card which would make sense for like a mini ITX build right like a mini portable VR system that'd be kind of cool you can you won't you won't be able to I should say it doesn't apply now shame because it's something yeah most of the 70s have yeah and you even see like laptops and stuff you know I people want to do VR on the go or be able to bring their portable you know light stations and stuff and ndu VR wherever and this would be a prime candidate for it could obviously drive the games no problem but without displays just an interesting design movement they're probably just using again to cut down costs which is again why we're expecting this card to come in at a low price point for the r-tx 27 B's so there you have it let's move on to some non GPU related news we only have one more article here before we move on to the next segment this is from hexxus and this is pretty 8 kind of exciting interesting Xbox one keyboard and mouse support is finally arriving tomorrow it's fun if you're watching this on live if you're watching us live right now or the day of upload which is November 13th November 14th tomorrow is when Xbox one players will be able to to play certain titles with full support with keyboard and mouse including fortnight you notice there's a mouse cursor in this video where right there they couldn't have dragged it off come on ideas have been captured from something oh I G n you're slipping they left the mouse cursor right there 0 out of 10 IGN oh oh my gosh ok I shouldn't say any I shouldn't say anything cuz I you know I've made I know I'm not one to talk but that's that's funny um alright so you know of course we we favor pcs here not gonna lie that's pretty obvious but anything that we can do to help the the gaming consoles get closer to a PC like experience I feel like I'm all for it you know I recently bought an Xbox one to play Red Dead Redemption too and I tried some workaround solution to use it with an Xbox to play the game with a sorry with a keyboard and mouse and it it kind of fell short it really fell short of a of a PC experience so maybe in the future we'll be able to play some Triple A games like that on an Xbox one and have it really feel more functionally like a PC with the peripherals I think that's one of the biggest things that sets consoles apart from PCs is the freedom to use the peripherals you want and have full support there now like I mentioned not every title is gonna be immediately supported overnight there's a very limited list of of games for xbox one that will have support starting tomorrow in fact there's only two tomorrow fortnight pretty limited fortnight and warframe but later this later this month you'll you'll find support for a bomber crew deep rock galactic strange Brigade vermintide - war thunder and x morph defense so it's very limited but it's a start I guess and you know depending on the sort of lifespan of the Xbox one I guess there could be a lot more titles and in the future there's gonna be extended support there's gonna be additional support and children of morta dayz minion master mode lighter bigger war face and war groove support for those games are promised in the future we don't have an exact date on those as a little disappointed see Red Dead Redemption - on there curious about the name of war groove it's like it's like it's like world of war tanks and and dance dance revelution combined you got to dance in order to make your tank shoot or fade an incoming barrage dance dance war groove you know it's like combines death and violence and war with dance and a beat modern hip hop exercise this is you're developing this game I am it sounds exciting low-key one of the developers for for this hot and exciting and highly anticipated title ok so this is this is cool this is also why I one of the reasons why I bought why I decided to buy an xbox one for RT or two instead of a ps4 was because I saw that Microsoft was making this kind of push to make make their platform a bit more similar to a PC as you get to 1x I did I got the 1x so you know bit more hardware in there more native support for 4k in certain games and things like that and yeah I noticed that they were including things like free sync did they add free sync yet I know that they were reporting to they were trying to add free sync I don't follow the console space closely enough but I know I I shall we talked about now I heard of some stuff about them adding free sync support because they do have AMD GPUs and and and everything in there which I believe are capable of supporting it I don't know if it needs to be implemented on a per game basis or not right but it just it just seems like Xbox one X or Xbox one is trying to push the boundaries for mr. slick one says the Xbox does have free sync yeah ok so um so I think because I saw like you know I was like oh this is kind of like is trying to mimic a PC experience a bit more though says you need use for easier freesync HDMI display so you need to of course display that supports precinct over HDMI sure think so so yeah so at any rate it's kind of exciting if you are an Xbox one owner and you like keyboard and mouse the best keyboard and mouse experience on Xbox one will be available through designed for Xbox mice and keyboards so this is where it gets a little so there's there's gonna be certain peripherals that you can use that will be optimized for Xbox one X it's not like any keyboard and mouse you can just plug and play and it's gonna be amazing we don't know exactly how just any old keyboard and mouse will will behave with an Xbox one but there will be designed for Xbox mice and keyboards that will come equipped with a dedicated Xbox key so the you know that Xbox button that's on the the gamepad the like certain keyboards and mice will have that button on it that is that might be it could be or actually that's that's one of their existing that that's a razor turret keyboard that's an existing lap board so the article hexxus is speculating that whatever cues yeah whatever whatever exclusive design that that razor comes up with that the revealing at CES next year in January will probably take some cues from the razor their existing razor turret lap board which is used for you know optimized for the living room being able to put on your lap and stuff like that so yeah razor seems to be right now the police think it was funny of corny of this article razor was the exclusive you know partner for designing peripherals that would be compatible with the Xbox one and then the following article that I looked up was from overclocked 3d saying that Corsair has now become the latest licensed hardware partner with with keyboards and mice for Xbox one so it seems like these two companies are so far at the forefront of adding support for for keyboard and mouse peripherals with the platform so it's a little bit different though because it seems like we're Razer is developing a new a brand new keyboard and mouse for Xbox one Corsair has existing hardware that will support the Xbox one so like their k63 lap board ecosystem like the wireless K six and three and their dark pro whatever it's called mouse that's supposed to already be officially supported with the Xbox one so owners of those peripherals right now can potentially use those no problem in the various titles I listed starting tomorrow which is kind of cool whereas if you're a Razer fanboy or something like that you'd have to wait till Razer actually released those products probably sometime after CES so at any rate the Xbox one is trying for all intents and purposes to be an act or like a PC and I can't really fault them for that so yeah that's pretty much it for that article and we can move on to new segments what's next take oh no sponsor spot sponsor spot yes thank you very much to Toshiba for sponsoring this episode of awesome hardware with their new SSDs this is the RC 100 there nvme drive which is a 240 gig capacity that was the one we have here I don't even know if the box because I already know there's no SS teen here only because I've already used it for a personal build up I'm instilling you know which which is a true testament to how much faith and and trust I have in these drives using their bi c CS flash made in-house it's a it's a cheaper drive it's price per gig is insanely good and you get stoked some some relatively good good performance out of these what do you have a that one will do over a thousand megabytes per second reads and writes it's like fifteen hundred and a thousand read/write I think it might be listed on there I know it's over a thousand it's not though it's not I know it's over a thousand for both so yeah yeah it's a nice balance between like it's a good step up over what you get with the standard SATA performance but it's you know it's not as high as the crazy high-end stuff that costs three times as much yes yeah this is a TR 200 which is a little 2.5 inch SSD available in 240 gig 480 I think there's also 960 gig version of this and you off you will almost always find this at the in the in a very competitive range when it comes to price per gigabyte for SSDs so I'm sure this sticker is also very easy to just kind of easily heatgun off if you wanted to get a nice clean silver a-class silver finish bitten beneath that too yeah if you're not finished really very green and black right builds get that option aesthetics so 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interwebs and bringing them to you this is particularly relevant because we are moments away we're weeks away from Black Friday which is arguably actually almost irrefutable II the biggest holiday tech deal week of the year where you can just finders detect the tech deal what what did I just say am I saying words that that make sense can people understand am i speaking English proper no no biggest holiday tech day week of the year no I didn't tech deals did I say tech days I don't think you said I thought I said tech deals so yes a tech day week it's that it's it's a Dave like Friday yeah but okay but Black Friday we all know Black Friday deals are way more than now than just the day Black Friday deals extend to the holiday you can still find amazing like the same Dee it's not better people who subtly calf will want to get you to buy that stuff many other days than just Black Friday yes and you can find you can find great deals the the whole Black Friday week so what I wanted to do today was just curate a couple deals that I found on Amazon and Newegg in particular that stood out to me and and I really just tried to like look at at products and deals that that really made me go wow I I would recommend this to a family member or a friend because I think this is a really good deal especially if that family member or friend was clicking the link in this video to my affiliate code affiliate account that is a good disclaimer Paul I will profit and that's how you spread the joy of the holidays this this is it's the gift that keeps on giving is giving me more money so this is all been the segment is just a ploy for me to to cash in and profit I profit off of your stupidity and get any money by buying any of these hey you could do a take my money segment it's not it's not side exclusive it's not psychic flu this could be on site a it deals your side being um so alright tech under it's a good disclaimer though I've linked my affiliate links to all these products in my description so if you guys want to check it out I will be getting a cut back or a kickback for anything that you guys purchase through these links just so you know thank you Paul for pointing that so but I'm not ashamed to admit it because I really do think that these are some pretty good deals now Amazon is having an AMD risin 5 2,600 going for a hundred and fifty 999 right now this is this is a pretty good deal 6 core 12 thread I mean not not too shabby down from 199 so we're getting a $40 discount here just just to clarify this is actually a price drop I believe from AMD because it's a hundred and sixty bucks across the board so if you hate it yes Amazon for some reason you should be able to find the 21 degree and Newegg lots of different retailers for this price that's true I this is this is like and I like if you want to talk bang for the buck I think this is the ultimate bang for the buck right now when it comes to building a computer a mainstream computer you can game and stream with this at the same time you're gonna get good gaming performance yes you could eke out a little bit more gaming performance your low resolutions with with the 9700 K or something like that sure but 160 bucks for this is it's hard to be it's but but I'm gonna be honest here don't as you're watching this don't check out with this product yet until you've heard all of all of the items okay from this segment because there's like a bunch of people about to hit check out right now see I'm on I'm an honest I'm an honest man Paul it's good I want the best for my viewers so guys hear me out here next up we have an msi be 450 gaming which is a obviously a be 450 motherboard so it has full support for Rison first and second gen processors including the 2600 that we just featured 97 dollars down from what 129 so 33 bucks off 130 33 bucks off doesn't sound like a whole lot but when you're when you're talking about a product that's starting at 129 that's actually a large percentage that's just been lopped off the top and obviously this is a fairly reputable brand here MSI there you know MSI actually did do a pretty good job with the power delivery for their be 450 motherboards Hardware unboxed has a pretty thorough video going over the B 450 boards and performance and stuff the tomahawk here actually if you guys are also interested is the one that they recommended that Steve recommended I use this just recently a build it's only I like their tomahawk pillars only 5 or 10 bucks more it's got a bit more of a neutral color scheme it's all grey and black and you can actually overclock or power like an 8 core am 4 processor with this board nice and it's 106 so there's some slight differences between the two boards but I think you'd be happy with either one but consider either of those yeah definitely and then um also we have a SSST you line up for you guys there's a one terabyte WD blue this is a SATA 3 base drives 2.5 inch drive 1 terabyte for 140 bucks hundred and thirty-nine for a single terabyte for a whole terabyte that's so nice I'm so glad SSD prices have dropped back down yeah that's down from 190 guys 139 I mean you know I guess there's there's always there's I think I feel like there's pros and cons to waiting for Black Friday deals on one hand like you could get some amazing deals at the same time it can be kind of stressful and I feel like I feel like there's such limited quantities for how for some of these like far-out amazing deals that you kind of have to line up like at the front door digital the digital front door just like you do at like a shopping mall or you know a Best Buy or something like that this is gonna be my benchmark because SSD prices or something I I watch closely I like higher capacity SSDs to terabyte ones yeah 140 bucks for one terabyte yeah I think that's I think that's and this it's like a no-brainer 560 megabytes per second sequential writes but yeah I mean he makes some rima nominal SSDs there's no their game changers you're not gonna find like anything faster that's a SATA SSD right so so cool for you all right yeah definitely next up we have another SSD actually the 256 gig silicon power SATA 3 two and half inch drive okay this is a great boot drive option so if you want to get like the WD blue is great if you want to like store all your games on it like a one terabyte is pretty good for a steam library but this is great for a boot drive I've actually used this drive myself in several bills it's the it's got SLC cache it's 37 bucks 38 bucks which is one of the cheapest one of the absolute cheapest 256 gig drive you can find on the market and I I like the fact excuse me I like the fact that it's 256 gig and it's that cheap it's not to it and 40 gig I know it's like not a huge difference but it does matter having those extra 16 gigs or whatever it makes me happy well I feel like yeah and I'm getting more price per gig at that point so um it's a good option like I said I've used it several times and it's always been good now let's move on to some new egg deals here and by the way I need the links that you click in the description there genius links though they'll automatically redirect you to whatever country that you're you're watching from or whatever new egg now remember how I said before you pull the trigger on that risin 5 2600 just make sure you listen to all my deals first new egg has a risin 7 1700 X bear in mind first gen rising but still 1700 X great chip for $10 cheaper then the risin 5 2600 fitty it's $10 cheaper dang dang dang dang dude you get 2 extra physical cores guys 2 extra physical cars a good deal I don't have any recent memory of this chip being any cheaper than it is now so if you're pure gamer I might tell you to opt for the 2600 you will get higher frequency out of that and especially the hair just like don't even need to overclock it frequency with the EXIF are xfr - where's the fun in that if you're gonna be doing anything that's compute-intensive though if you're gonna be rendering lots of videos or streaming a streaming maybe if you're gaming streaming on the same seat on the same at the same time on this computer I and this will probably vary based on the game that you're playing and how multi-threaded the game itself is as far as leaving because most games are kind of like 4 cores 4 cores were yeah it is yeah but I I would be kind of curious what to get what the streaming performance would be the 6 core versus the 8 core but I expect you to be able to do both but honestly that's a really tough call the 8 core a core first gen resin for 150 or the 6 core second gen Rison for 160 yeah that's a it's so this is probably the best bang for your buck if you're looking at overall raw CPU performance yeah if it was a 1700 non X then I would for sure say god damn windows I was for sure say I'm for she said present by seventy six hundred week but with the X the X there I feel like you get a little bit more except you get it a little bit more push there it does it does make a difference that's interesting either way though either way though you can't go wrong oh the seventy-nine Rex actually chats pointing that out twenty-six hundred does have a cooler has a race fire swing does not this one doesn't that 1700 X no that is so cool that's some to consider okay for sure so that's definitely something to consider yeah good good good call chat all right let's move on though we've got a couple more here aces prime be 350 plus okay so the Asus prime be 350 plus is a fantastic board now granted it's be 350 not be 450 so its first in raisin as well but it does support second gen rising chips any of the 2000 series rising chips will slide in just fine you'll still be able to take control or or take advantage of you know what honestly PBR but precision boost precision boost 22.0 exif are 2.0 all those all those technologies because they're attached to the cpu themselves not the actual chipset so even with the be 350 board you still look at all the Verizon to features for the most part so this is a really good board I've used this board probably more than any other be 350 board here in the studio and it's always been good to me I've had no issues with it I like the BIOS I think the BIOS is very easily navigatable if that's a word and if you want it if you want to overclock though consider spending 15 or 20 bucks more on either of the MSI ones that we talked about earlier you know they better power delivery yeah definitely you can still overclock with these boards you just won't be able to like fully max out the potential of whatever trip you're on and you probably wouldn't be able to overclock and then do sustained running at that overclock speeds because you'll have the V RMS actually start to throttle due to overheating potentially depending on the seat depending on the clock depending on the CPU that you're using and especially with the eight cores with this board but like I said for 85 bucks it's got everything that you want and I have also used this board and especially if you're just running at stock speeds it's a solid choice yeah okay and then two more here sixteen gig kit this was the cheapest ddr4 16 gigabyte kit I could find on Newegg actually between Newegg and Amazon it's a team team T force Vulcan at 3000 megahertz it's actually not slow bank transfers kappa maybe transfers whatever mega transfers per second at $99 that's it I thought this was a great deal it's like 30 bucks at less than I've seen I feel like for 16 gig kids yeah most of the kids and you know what will this work with Rison let's check the reviews I would think so you know Rising Sun Rise and memory support has gotten so much better over the last six months to a year and you could probably even overclock it you could probably even overclock it a little bit maybe the 3200 or something like that but I feel like at so this guy ran with a be 450 motherboard and he got it to run at 29 33 that's not terrible for $99 yeah he still gave it five stars five eggs here's a be 350 and a 2600 has rock either had the round on the qvl went to a straight stable 3000 alright so like this is the this is people when I when I'm looking at memory and its memory that maybe isn't on qvl lists Verizon in particular I would expect this to be pretty compatible with Intel because until it's a little bit better about memory support running you but for Rison if you want to plug it in and run it at 3000 feet which is a good speed to run Raisa net you kind of want to double check so you might you might be a little bit more hit or miss this guy is not happy he has an X 470 set up in a 2600 it did not work so well but he ran mem tests and found errors so he might have just had faulty memory right here's a B 450 that worked all right it does look like the people are getting this to run at the rated speed with resin so good it seems like you have a decent chance to that at least and I feel like I'm not a huge fan of personally this is all subjective the way that it looks the side but if you look at the middle picture there it actually looks pretty good from the top like if you look at just let the top which is what you're gonna be seeing 90% of the time it looks pretty it looks like some pretty nice-looking sticks there I'm in its color neutral color neutral matches anything oh alright and then the last item here that I have is the corsair carbide series 275 R which is a mirror oh they actually increased the price it was it was $49 and now it's $55 so since since a couple hours today it went up five dollars with mail-in rebate but still fifty fifty five dollars for this case doesn't seem like a terrible deal it's originally MSRP at 75 so this is still 20 20 $20 off for a very sleek and modern looking case you get tempered glass no that's acrylic oh is it acrylic Derrick alright so if you're ok with acrylic then sure but honestly I thought it was tempered glass I didn't see that at least it's got a power supply basement if you want something that's a little bit more especially with five dollars more I would say check out the fantex p400 fantex p400 is gonna cost you a little bit more then you know 55 65 but you can still get it for a reasonable amount seventy-nine sixty sixty-nine dollars right there is actually a pretty good deal 70 bucks the P 400 and that's RGB so you can change that black red what oh wait just go with black the black should be the same same color but it's what goddamnit alright well if you're going with it a dedicated color scheme he bucks after ten dollar rebate though so okay so depending on you know how picky you are with color and stuff you can eat so you could save a $10 potential potentially but the p400 is is an excellent option tempered glass actual tempered glass great power power supply basement good cable management and pretty decent air flow as well a seemingly closed up closed off front panel so uh that is it for take my money again links in the 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