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Awesome Hardware #113-B: Radeon RX Vega vs. GTX 1080! Oculus' $200 VR Headset, Aggro Mice FTW

2017-07-18
little pieces yeah I can make the tentacles as long or as short as you want them to be man that's true some tentacles are longer than others after all have your own little tentacle porn enchant it's beautiful we're starting this episode in a really weird spot so what's just how you circumvent the Japanese censorship there you go we're gonna hit reset really quick and welcome everybody to awesome hardware a live show that Paul and I do every single Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time right here on twitch.tv slash awesome hardware or you can also watch the show from our respective YouTube channels we'd like to split the show up into two halves this week the first half was on pulse Paul's channel Paul's hardware so that's already happened you can go ahead and click the link in my video description on YouTube and it'll take us at that side you're watching Part B side B right now on my channel so everything's all good we're on track right now things are going good we had a good first half of 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get a refund on part of your shipping cost and eat it's a great deal yep um so let's just dive right into some tech news starting with actually an article that Paul already sort of touched on his half I didn't really realize that you were talking about I must have missed it I only lightly grazed it though yeah so I guess we can just sort of rina reach what was said maybe I can just do more better eBay search as this time right yes I could I linked from the article the eBay search and I have no idea that was only looking at ended ended so these prices are great it's like this this our export eighty that ended three months ago that's a great price on it totally reasonable we haven't screwed up that badly since the one time we pulled up an article from like 2009 or something yeah sometimes it's hard it's hard to tell when articles are written it's like one of the street along the way should have realized that that wasn't news yeah say Instagram you people don't notice that certain gram becomes a thing as long as we press press on you know just plow right through it yep alright so um if you read prices as we all know have sort of tanked in the last month it was a round four valued at $400 around there together burner bucks in June yeah and a crushed way down to last last week or so yeah a little over a week ago is when it first kind of tanked and that's when the the difficulty increased right on it they moved to a new and a new epoch epic epic epoch ibaka be Bacchus it's such an awkward word I know I need to figure out how to pronounce that one day um but yes so difficult to increase the the price is still it's been fluctuating it's still going up and down right as we might hit around 250 today right yeah up from 133 so but that could also be you know because so many people stopped mining after the initial crash you know what I mean so that first crash from less you know last week going from $400 to around 133 a bunch of people as we were noting on your half of the show have already begun selling their used graphics cards and have sort of you know the less serious traders are like okay I'm out of the game whatever I'm not gonna stick around for and wait for it to go back up my electricity bills killing me or whatever it is so that could also be a reason one of the reasons why it's spiked up to 250 always kind of gone back up a little bit just this was like hours ago well this was like mid early afternoon today depending on where in the US you are that peaked a little over 250 it is back down to still about 220 range but I mean you combine that the price being more in the 200 ish to $250 range compared to the 300 400 dollar range when all of the prices started to being jacked up from the GPUs and everything like that combine that with the difficulty going up and it's just not as effective a way to make money as it used to be that's the bottom line yeah and as a result there's less people who are buying the cards so there's less demand so the price should the price of GPUs at least should start to fall off what does it mean when they say the difficulty is increases that just means it's taking longer to mine the same amount of coin yes okay so you need to you need to put in more work and more time with your GPU in order to find the next next block in the chain which means which means you're getting less money per amount of time or whatever it is PC Gamer actually did an exam showed an example where a mining rig sporting one rx 580 would net around 4 bucks a day if you're talking about about a month ago that same system now would only be yielding about a dollar 25 per day so that's a significant decrease in earnings and there's not as much ROI there it's a lot of people who are mining and you know trying to pay off and try to just break even on the cards they just spent you know hundreds of dollars on and you know now increase their electricity bill are now looking at it going this is probably not as worth it as as I thought it was and I'm not really willing to stick it out in the long run to see where it's going this is just sort of the natural ebb and flow of things and there are gonna be less serious traders out there who just don't have the patience for it and we're just trying to make a quick buck that obviously may or may not have happened for them you know they also have fewer people who aren't familiar with the general landscape of cryptocurrency in general because like you'll have people who don't know anything about cryptocurrency but who see it as a potential money-making source so suddenly they have gotten into it to try to figure out how they can put something together to start mining and making some money if you're still if you've already got GPUs first of all and in particular if you're somewhere where you either have access to renewable renewable energy either wind or solar solar or hydro or if you're somewhere where energy is just very inexpensive which is probably because you're getting it from wind or solar or hydro then it is much much much more practical to do mining and probably at least if you're looking at it from a like am I just wasting tons of energy by mining perspective makes you feel a little bit better about it - I've never done any mining I think probably a lot of people here in Southern California would be in the same boat one because the cost of electricity is so high as it is so it could have still been profitable I could have still made some money by plugging in some cards and mining it but I'm also chewing into you know the amount of energy that's used in in general by the area that I'm in as it's provided and we are on coal power here so that's just not something that I'm very interested in in in doing so as someone addressed like there's there was a comments or one of the one of the donations on my half of the show talking about people hating on miners and if I could if I could state well I'm just here's here's my here's the way I look at it like we live in a world where it's very difficult to make money and get ahead I don't blame anyone who saw mining as a way to make some money and got into it because if it is a way to make money you're gonna have people who are interested in it yeah I don't I I think it's actually actually possible to hold the position of I'm disappointed that's graphics cards cost so much as much as they do because I want to build a gaming PC and I understand people trying to make a buck yeah I think you can hold both of those positions at the same time and I don't think lamenting the cost the high cost of graphics cards means that I hate all miners that's not personal yeah lady personal it's just it's just kind of yes I mean and obviously there's people who might feel differently about it people might be like fuck miners they're like you know whatever you know that guy think bad they're not like the way this whatever it is it's not like a bunch of my song it's not like miners are maliciously mining to undermine haha those gamers yeah exactly they're done they're not out to get you they're not intentionally trying to screw you over and I think most people realize that but you know I mean it's it's it's you don't like the graphics market they don't owe you anything like there's no there's no promise that's ever been made to us that says you will always have an abundant flow of graphics cards for value for a reasonable rates like that's not a promise that we've ever been given like we're not owe anything so if someone is by legal means trying to make a buck with graphics cards you know and it's not physically hurting anyone just might make things more inaccessible like that's not some reason I don't think personal estate someone also in a quick reference remember from my half of the show yeah our expert five 80s still cost a lot of money there's still not as much as a gtx 1070 used to cost ten seventies are the price of ten 80s and higher it's insane fucking miners all right so yeah the cheapest buy it now five eighty is a four gig for 290 bucks Dini mm-hmm that's I think that's a little bit less yeah it's a little bit and it's also the five eighty which is like one of the prime mining cards yeah 585 7390 yeah I think eventually it's going to northern before I go in the lines and we'll be all right things won't things will normalize eventually but let's let's move on because you got some other stuff to talk about here let's talk about that was this for the one guy in chat who was like fuck you guys just talk about our x-ray Gul ready this is for you impatient guy this is about rayon Rx Vega that was recently showcased at in Budapest of all places AMD's been making their rounds with their friends at Asus kind of a dynamic duo going around the world showing off their there Vega and their h2 stuff just like flan at all look at what we got over there just showcasing stuff they're doing a tour up and looks pretty sick what's pretty wicked wicked as I say it looks like it's like it's on an acid trip or something yeah it's kind of like on fire type of thing it looks mean it looks really mean it's me and aggressive looks like it's ready to mind some Bitcoin no I'm just getting ready to kill some frame rates a photo gallery so this gives you an idea of what was going on in Budapest just recently Vega was being shown off not in physical form the radian rxt Vega was not physically visible to the public it was actually enclosed in a PC that had you know no visible like open window type side panels or anything like that so you could really see it but you got an idea of the performance because they allowed the attendees to sort of game on that particular system with battlefield 1 running the whole system was running Rison 7 cpu and in close chassis of course the only demo they had there really was battlefield one at 34 40 by 1440 and beside that Vegas system was an identical rig with the same Rison 7 processor but instead it had a GTX 1080 from Nvidia inside of it 1080 or 1080 1080 non TI non TI for comparison ok which immediately makes us think or sort of assume that the RX Vega car that they were showcasing there is gonna be is gonna have comparable performance to a GTX 1080 potentially neither system was labeled however so all the attendees none of the attendees knew which one was Vega which one was the the 1080 which is kind of interesting hmm and there was no FPS counter on either system as well so you couldn't even see like what your frame rate was they were both you know there was an equivalent g-sync and freesync monitor on their respective systems but their's FPS counter so we don't really have a metric to to go by on that so there was any useful information so really it was just sort of a useless demo that the only thing you could really construe from it is that most of the most of the attendees could not tell a difference between either system which basically tells us whether you get a gtx 1080 or this radeon RX vega card your gameplay experience to the average user is going to be more or less identical ok on on the particular respect hardware that they had configured which again kind of kind of makes you a little bit suspicious like if they were super confident why didn't they show like why wasn't there an FPS counter up there i feel like that's something that they could have really stuck to nvidia if they had the means to do so again this is all speculation AMD representatives were also telling the public that their own system with the with the RX vega card was $300 cheaper actually the whole setup was 300 ollars cheaper than the nvidia does that up but they're using to calculate that they're using the average cost of a free sink monitor versus a jisuk monitor saying that the average cost is about $200 cheaper if you go free sync and so what you can construe from that is that the RX Vega is potentially about $100 cheaper less than it's an 80 and a 1080 so okay maybe it's got comparable maybe a little bit less performance of that and that's the juicy info there's the juiciness okay there's the juiciness so for waiting like a bit of flavor so the gtx 1080 is retailing right now for about least six I know I'm salivating right now you were salivating I could tell you're just drooling all over yourself look at that paraplegic so um this has a weird and metaphor highly offensive good thing we're not streaming anything you say under your live to the world okay welcome to the show everyone my half can be in certain ways that pause does not uh but let's see 100 dollars cheaper I think that's a pretty good setup even if it's not quite as powerful as a GTX 1080 hey you should be 500 bucks yeah yeah so 400 bucks maybe for the price of a admin board gtx 1070 you're getting in our Vega Iranian rx Vega that performs about on par with a GTX 1080 that's that's pretty solid however at 50 however in video could also make the argument that Wow AMD just came out with this card that rivals a card that we pretty much put out almost a year ago so this is almost like older technology and and I guess the question is like is Vega has Vega come too late did I just take too long to launch a vania like now that the plus the GTX 1080 has been out for so long that there are so many adding board partner variants of that card that help with the cooling and the performance and the overclocking of capabilities of that particular GPU where I feel like Vega it's gonna take a while maybe for those ad and board partners to roll out with their specific models in order to offer you know a good selection for well if the Vega delay has been largely due to HBM product HBM to production difficulty then perhaps you know the board the atom party Edden board vendor third party people there's so many ways to say it perhaps the third party GPU manufactures graphics card manufacturers will already have had time to work on something so maybe we hope maybe we'll see third-party designs or sooner rather than later I mean great what I'm trying to say we saw some of launcher sin ATM Newegg right now is 550 bucks okay so potentially you're talking four to five hundred dollar range for rx Vega speculating here but if you can if they can deliver GT X 1080 performance for 450 bucks they'll have a good product yeah aim I mean Nvidia can probably respond pretty quick with a price drop or something like that because like Kyle said yeah this their 1080 has already been out for quite a while yeah they only dropped the price on it because the 1080 TI launched it wasn't due to anything that and that AMD did right so and then when's the next generation of Nvidia cards coming out whenever Alta like whenever they want yeah like whatever they're not whatever what's what's AMD doing yeah right they just got it in the chamber chamber wait yeah we'll just keep selling those top-end GTX 10 80s and 1080 TS that's the best thing anybody has we don't have we don't have anything Volta based what do you think Jensen's doing right now like right in this very second as we stream this the keys like in his underwear playing pong like I was gonna say like getting zero stress zero job from like three chicks oh yeah and they're all they're all AMD reps is he married I have no idea I know nothing I know more about his leather jacket than him as a person because if he's not married then that's totally fine you can get a blowjob from from two chicks of course there's nothing in the law in America that says you can't do that yeah some people married that'd be kind of that'd be kind of shitty Yeah right stay loyal unless he was married to all three of those women which is which is legal some some places yeah there's a way that you could work that out I've looked into it for a friend he's Mormon switch chat says they're imagining a lot of ass fucking okay sorry we're thanks chat hey where's the tentacle icon where's the tentacle emojis when you need them come on where were you on that twitch dropping the ball guys let's what's alright Jensen's actually in chat spamming okay all right let's move on to our next story which is completely different than what we've just been talking about this is about a science experiment Thank You tentacle porn chat users yay so um this is a scientist his name is Zhao ting ting he's from China I believe and he's been experimenting on Mike's trying to turn these these shy low ranking loser mice into aggressive like straight-up aggro in your face winners so straight winners bro so this is the test that they actually conduct to see if they're if their tests are fruitful they basically had it's called the tube test and they put two mice at opposite ends inside of a tube and each might each Mouse tries to get to the other side and the more aggressive or more dominant Mouse will always be the one to push the other Mouse out the other end and come out on top so you can see here the one on the left is clearly more aggressive it's pushing for a longer period of time the one on the right is just finally backing out and going I can't do this your balls are way bigger than mine and I ain't getting laid tonight you are look it's a moon expedition and then there's an advertisement no they just rolled into the next video oh thank you very much more easy technique to see more of this hot mouse on Mouse action yes it's very sexy when you think about the brain oh yeah so basically I'm the way they're doing this is they're stimulating a part of the mouse's brain that it's like they're the prefrontal cortex that's in charge of effortful behavior they have that in quotes effortful behavior which have turned these shy low-ranking mice again into these super soldier mice who are super dominant and have actually shown to win the tube test nearly 100 percent of the time they went from almost losing every single time to almost winning every single time which is pretty good saying something apparently you know who wins the tube test 100% of the time you know did tube does this this is a pun that I'm not picking up on right now I just thought you might say me or something like that oh why would you be not winning this I mean like you I was trying I was I was leaving you an opening oh but me but that's the actual answer is me you you're not winning the tube test and I do you do in the tube test have a champion at the tube test so who's the other person in the tube with you doesn't matter that was win all right right yeah I guess you're right you know they're a loser it's my dominant personality that is true very alpha it's nothing very overbearing just just just just oozing intimidation if you walk into the room with bog yeah I've got a kit don't make eye contact me Dee Utley do whatever I will without you telling this I can I can testify to that so the wit the winning mice yeah they're awesome and they're they're they're they're a sign that this is this is that you can that you can win in life you don't even have to be wrong you don't have to be you don't have to be like the bronze you have to have like brute strength to overcome certain obstacles in life you just need to have an aggressive attitude so I guess maybe this is a sort of a technique of the will the will the drive right to to overcome and I think that there's something that can be applied to the human race in this regard perhaps this sort of treatment of stimulating that part of the brain it's probably like we're not gonna respond the same way that the mice are because our brains are infinitely more complex than a mouse brain but this could potentially some way down somewhere down the line be be it be a solution to like anxiety like social anxiety for example I think the most fascinating thing about this article is that some of the mice that were treated with the stimulation why are you laughing what's going on I have to I have to know its to know what's in that sick brain ears that's sick mouse brain ears them because if you're like simulating and I have to refresh this like actually show it because if you're naturally like socially anxious person or something like that what's gonna make you feel better like walking into that the club or whatever we're just like this big light array sticking out of the back of your head that's what you get to do get the cover you see the person with the big light ponytail he's only your only real man could we're late array of optical wiring sticking out of the back of this juice guy that dude's got two penises holy shit he's got a double Johnson so what I was gonna say what I was saying was that some of the mice that were treated six or seven times with this stimulating effect on their brain actually became permanent for the entirety of their existence like they just just like grew balls and like eyeballs did my shrink back they got hardwired into believing that they had the aggression and the confidence which is kind of weird to talk about with mice to to overcome these certain situations and win the tube test nearly every time there was a small percentage of mice who were treated that eventually reverted back to being meek and shy but most of them actually liked it almost like rewired their brains in a way their brains were like because I think that's true with human brains too like when you do something you kind of take a risk and you be more aggressive and you actually come out victorious in whatever situation you're in whether it's like social or whatever then you know like for next time I'm capable as a person I am capable to overcome this and and it sort of rewires your brain and what you think is possible which is a huge mindfuck but again hopefully this can help some people that were there any negative effects like did any of the mice just die oh yeah all all the mice died at the end of the experiment they did no oh okay but that seems like a likely when you first said when you first look like some of them took it too far whatever I thought you've a go well it's like you know it's like the the stimpacks in in starcraft or whatever you know it's like eventually will kill you or something if you use it too much but if there's no negative effects again they need to start testing this on humans as soon as possible but they need more people out there who are just pushy and dominant but no that's what we need no that's see that's the negative exciting that sounds like a horrible idea the negative effect is the effect itself isn't that we can create and potentially create a super-soldier army of douchebaggery assholes that that like just never back down bro it's just like constantly like one I'll just chest-bump everyone out of the way and you I destroy these scientists in the facility I prevent anything needs to be controlled moderated and you know and sold on the black market eventually which I'm sure would turn a huge profit for lots of game shows game shows here shows yep just having that you know but ate a bunch of people it's like it's like it's like a Hunger Games style game show you know the type of ones where people fight to the death or whatever yeah you give them all this type this treatment first and then they all think they're king of world or whatever and they're you know go out there and dominate and then obviously you get a bunch of those personalities clashing they kill each other it's obviously going to be fantastic entertainment right everybody should sign up for my new my new cable channel I've just decided I'm gonna start that sounds great mr. cable neutrality so you fall through that so um yeah this could be a really great thing or it could destroy us all you know I don't want know like the steroids are already bad enough having people like just overly charge like overclocked like your aggressions just been ridiculously overclocked to the nth degree that sounds terrible and and you know what there's there's bound to be some negative effects that they're not talking about in this article anything that's like this just it's too good to be true sounding has to have some negative effect like that's why we don't all do cocaine it'll be like sickness is basically cocaine there's a nice cocaine so at the end of it all demise for assholes yeah right that also happened nine out of ten mice who use this treatment ended their marriages and divorces dicks mice no one wants a dick mouse alright let's move on to our last story here for tech news today about Google is a quick one Google bringing 4k HDR to the playing field with their play movie store yeah they've uh they've been offering 4k content in the past for a while now but now it's getting the HDR treatment in their play movie store which is super cool this is gonna allow a lot of users to stream 4k HDR content to compatible devices whether that means a smart TV or this beautiful contraption here which is I believe the chromecast ultra it's one of the new chromecast chromecast ultra makes me feel dated for just having a basic chromecast this is only available currently to users in the US and Canada and the Canadians but it will roll out to other countries later on those this is a cool thing if you already own any 4k content specifically I think it says 4k films if you own any if you own any 4k films in the Play Store like oh and the Play Store from the Play Store that you purchased in the past you'll be able to access their HDR versions for free that's cool so they don't they don't charge you extra they don't up charge you if you already own it you just get the HDR we used to be like oh by the DVD like oh I have the DVD of this my foot no that's alright say let's go back further by the VHS oh okay and I have the VHS to the pre DVD right by the DVD now your VHS sucks okay I'll buy that movie again on your video okay and if you murmur that all right the blue my movie again on blu-ray available now anyway no don't want that shitty DVD quality you want blu-ray yeah well that's easy let's look great nothing by it again on 4k blu-ray 4k blu-ray of HDR buy that shit one more time yeah this is better if you just buy it once and then the service upgrades if the service upgrades and then like in in five more years when they're doing 8k double HDR broadcast was twice as much HDR at each one because it's quantitive thing you can add more of it then it just suddenly your movie becomes that much better that's that's the beauty of having I don't way of doing things that's the beauty of having it all did you tie so everyone go buy all your movies again on Google Play yes indeed and I promise it'll be the last time yep I'm gonna get a chromecast all true it sounds cool really it didn't have a home theater PC you think I do but when I you know when we travel and stuff it's it's nice oh yeah for traveling it's nice I mean it's cheap to exact 20 30 bucks I'm tired of bringing my htpc to Taiwan I'm just kidding how to do that that would be ridiculous alright let's move on to our next segment Hutton heavy hardware yeah we've got a couple stories here not too much so our first article comes from PC gamer thank you very much this is about a 50 terabyte solid-state drive did you know that there was a 50 terabyte SSD in circulation right now that's reasonable um sounds legit to me this is from Viking technology when I first read this article I thought there was a new technology that was being built into SSDs called Viking technology I was like what an interesting technology no that's name of the company I was just as confusing so Viking technology is who makes these SSDs there's also a 25 terabytes hero laser then what was the president's name but oh look at the name of the president of Viking technology that's a Viking named honeyed shucks shucks Ergas r is that Viking I'm gonna pretend that's a Viking name he's definitely a like it could be advising definitely if I there's no other reason why you name your company that there's no so so quote from the president of Viking technology there is no higher capacity SSD solution available today in the you says it needs to cut too like the dude interviewing him and him just being there's like the word bull get up wearing like you know animal furs and Viking stuff and okay uh yes that's what I imagined in my head yep me too so this is part of their both of these drives at 25 terabyte and the 50 terabyte model are part of the brand's ultra high capacity silo series and come in a not 2.5 but 3.5 inch form factor this is intended for data centers which probably many of you guys already assumed not general consumers that would be incredibly expensive if you made a general consumer drive with this kind of capacity so these ones actually support a 60 bits per second this is the thickness over in the right yes like a big fat big old drive big that point SSD yeah still get them SATA connect it's a it's got a SAS interface so you could not just you need a card or something like that madam card so yeah to make this way their rate card of something SAS compatible or a server motherboard to give that in mmm-hmm the dredger using planar multi-level cell man and an undisclosed next generation flash processor speeds are not amazing they're 500 megabits per mega bytes per second sequential read and 350 megabytes per second two sequential writes random reads reads and writes up to sixty ki ops and 10,000 I ops respectively endurance Viking technology it's not the best right however this is more so I guess if you want just like the most ridiculous capacity they and you know having that additional right speed is not about most importance you know everyone I'm sure even you know servers like data centers have their own specific needs where I mean that's he's way more important to write speeds what one don't get me wrong oh yeah it would be awesome I'd love this for everything or something I'd never have to you know transfer the files to a backup drive or whatever just get tutors because I you're sitting here thinking like only 500 megabytes per seconds to clinch to read and be terrified bytes like it's plenty like it's been really really high-end pretty expensive hard drive yeah you'll be lucky to get a 10 terabyte one right now yeah okay yep you know unfortunately a consumer SSD in this type of capacity probably won't come anytime soon because it would just be so expensive that it wouldn't be practical and no one would buy it so a company would only do it just to you know as a benchmark and be like we're the best that we have we broke a world record or whatever but not really to sell any units they probably wouldn't sell so respectfully trying to keep our sockets in our our eyes in our sockets Viking did not mention price I would imagine it's over what do you think a ten or a fifty terabyte SSD retails for well ten like fifteen thousand dollars let's let's look at teen or twenty thousand let's look at best-case scenario okay so if we looked at a one terabyte lookup a one terabyte Samsung I don't care what the capacity is I'm looking at price per gigabyte per expert a gig so pptv best price per gigabytes for this is only PC part picture so he's not exhaustive but basically 25 cents per gig times and that is four by two that's it Wow that's actually for a two terabyte crucial MX 300 basically the same price per gig for the one and two terabyte versions of the MX term that would be twelve hundred twelve thousand twelve thousand five hundred dollars that's if you could get the best price per gigabyte for sumer drives on the market right now which I almost guarantee that's not gonna happen you're probably looking at 15k at least yeah so yeah 15 to 25 K crazy for this Drive imagine that someone will buy it not me oh yeah well datacenters yep of course cuz I mean just shit out of space that uses and and it's gonna use a lot less power than I McKenna need rep to or the set up oh yeah or the set of mechanical drives that you would have needed to definitely have made got an equivalent capacity yeah so cool thanks Viking technology for that cool cool those cool products next up we've got a story about oculus good ol oculus working on a standalone VR headset that will be $200 reportedly this is all from a Bloomberg report this is all rumored people but it's been everywhere every site I looked at today was talking about this it's melting all over the place it's called the oculus Pacific for now which is basically a stopgap sort of bridges the gap between Mobile Smartphone VR it kind of sucks and super high-end VR that has a really high barrier to entry because it requires a super fast PC just to make it operate and function properly so this actually is requiring no additional hardware it's a standalone hmd you don't need a PC to drive it which is gonna appeal to a lot of people because there are a lot of people out there who are indicating who are interested in VR but know nothing about building their own PC or don't want to buy or fork out the money for a high-end system so that this is potentially this might be more popular than the oculus rift to be honest who knows hello yeah exactly it's not saying much right so this is gonna be lighter than the rift this is again all a legend rumor the speculation lighter than the rift and the Samsung gear VR headset will support a faster unspecified Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU no positional tracking will be offered like it is on the Google daydream for example however positional tracking may come with a 2.0 version of Pacific's so maybe on the second generation we might see it happen but it will become it will it will come included with a wireless remote and launch time is projected to be October of this year if there's any if this is if this is any truth if there's any truth to this story an unveiling would potentially take place during the firm's oculus connect for event on October 11th and 12th what do you think about a $200 standalone VR headset oh I'm skeptical I gotta say I'm skeptical mainly because 200 bucks standalone I mean it's gonna be more about the exam areas and less about the performance yeah imagine what you could like if you just bought a phone right now and you were like I have 200 bucks I need to buy phone yeah you can actually get a pretty decent phone for 200 bucks straight across especially if you're looking at refurbs or something like that so you can get a reasonable amount of power and a decent screen for roughly that price range but I feel like to have everything included with the head mounted display like and it's gonna be something that's Android based so you know it's not it doesn't seem like it's something that's gonna suddenly have access to the entire library of oculus rift games no there's something like that right so I don't know I would be I guess I guess to me for the price right the price seems like what they need to do if they really want to say look here's something you can just buy and use yeah but it also seems like really challenging to get the level of performance out of something that would cost that little right yeah cuz it's cuz everybody I mean it's everything it's it's it's a couple displays if not a single split display and my sound and the processing and everything all integrated I'd be pretty impressed I guess I'd be curious to see how much overhead is reduced by using the fovea 'td rendering that we talked about with prior like how much that actually saves system resources and and what you know how much can you get away with by using that technology 24/7 if that's if that's the way that things are headed but I agree that $200 for a VR headset seems like it might be closer of an experience to a mobile VR yeah like Samsung QA should be our or whatever and further away from the high-end rift and and and vive in which case like if it doesn't have enough to differentiate itself from the experience of like that Google cardboard or something where you're just using your cell phone and putting it in your in front area switch right I mean for what it's worth isn't a terrible experience when you when you try those out I mean if you're just doing something like looking at a 360 image or something like that you know those aren't terrible or anything but when you compare them to the like spatial awareness and interactivity of the full VR experience that you get with something like you're an oculus rift or vive it's you know you can see where there's a big difference between right a and B so like what this seems like to me and what I hope it doesn't become is when you look at gaming let's just say like ignore PC gaming for a moment but you have like mobile gaming on your phone right you can load up clash of clans or something right that's a that's an experience and then you've got the console like lady you buy an xbox one and you can play it that's infinitely better right then then playing on your phone but then there's like the Android console right which is much closer in a way like just in terms of the experience to a mobile device than it is to the Xbox one so I feel like that's why I like Android consoles haven't really taken off much is because there's not like you said much to differentiate it from something you can just get from your phone where it's like okay now it's on the bigger screen great but I would say that I hope it doesn't I know I wanted that category I know there is a pretty I mean it's it's a little bit more niche but like Nvidia shield for example I think would be good it does so much more than that though which but it does do more but it also ties in with your home theater so suddenly you have whatever size 4k or nice whatever TV you have is suddenly what that's using as a display right that's where this might fall short is like you know to have a good display experience as well as the GPU power to power something like that depending that resolution and everything that's going on yeah is very challenging so I don't know it seems like it would be difficult for ACOs to distinguish this from the experience that people get with something like a smartphone mm-hm and if they can't do that then it's like well why would I buy this yeah when I can get something similar with my smartphone and you know I'm not gonna buy this one-off device that I'm gonna use for a little bit and then get rid of writers or get bored of or whatever but I could be totally wrong I mean 200 bucks maybe 200 bucks is a sweet spot for people and there's a lot of interest in VR but people have just been like it's too expensive and this I'll try for 30 bucks yeah I'll be curious to see what the sort of like game offerings are gonna be on this platform as well like like you said you'd probably be able to pull every title that's available on the oculus store right now so is it gonna be significantly watered down are you gonna have just like a few basic apps that you can try out at first and you know that are gonna be less enjoyable less less fun less exciting and stuff like that it'll be interesting to see but you know oh I'll keep an open mind for now and our last story let's move on our last story in hot and heavy hardware today which is about some custom key caps for your canticle keyboard this is from hexxus dotnet thank you guys these key caps are actually pretty sweet at first I looked at this article is like this is stupid am I gonna talk about this I was like it's actually pretty cool I'd probably use one of those this is from a Vietnam based company called jelly key they've unveiled their forbidden realms series of custom cherry MX key caps forged by skilled craft workers now these key caps reproduce scenes from a forgotten world this is quoted from that from a forgotten world sealed under crystal-clear resin and mounted on a cherry MX compatible key base that's crazy it's pretty sweet actually based upon the si ro 3 cap the jelly key will be a little taller than a regular om key cap on the top row materials used to create these key caps include multi-layered wood veneers grass smoke and more under a resin of course some of the key caps are made with black aluminum sorry back backlit illumination in mine so perhaps you can even search sort of illuminate the scenery with a backlit keyboard which is kind of cool like it kind of shine through yeah exactly um so you can see there's like sort of like this sort of like a river river going through a valley up here yeah some some greenery some some nice wildlife and those are the layers of multi-layered wood kind of um that's wood yeah the bass like the sort of the foundation is wood I mean it looks very like detailed yeah Airy detail-oriented for sure because I get these waterfalls and waterways flowing yeah yeah they said it was made with smoke like some of them are made with smoke this I don't even know one looks really cool how do you capture an oak in like an acrylic I heard jelly whatever jelly they're using the resin resin I I don't know they just look really cool like that's something that I that's different like super different people in chatter saying like holy shit like my mind is blown this is super different yep I think it's pretty cool I don't know if there's a this is the last article I was researching so I didn't see if there was a price doesn't look like there is so the big they're being given away on various social media channels used by jelly ki okay so you can follow jelly ki on Twitter or something like that maybe Instagram and and potentially win some of these but I'd be curious to see how much they're going for this seems like a perfect mass drop opportunity like mass trap should definitely get in touch with jelly ki and just yeah drop some of these guys for the for the masses because I'm sure that there's there's going to be quite a demand since school previous jelly ki creations would have cost thirty to forty dollars per key but as the forbidden realm series is the most intricate yet the price is expected to reflect this oh my god might be as much as sixty bucks per key cap Wow worth it Wow dear Santa that's like birthday Christmas every special holiday about you know where you get gifts just just ask for one key cap per person just by make you get you get we're pretty cool though I'd like to I'd like to pimp out all my F keys with just like jelly keys they'll be pretty sweet all right so I'd be down for that standard layout is 84 keys and then an enhanced layout with a numpad is 101 keys so if it was 101 times 60 bucks base about $6,000 did you imagine like that's like the most pimp keyboard like he did every key yeah if you did every key and these would be different to make an entire 3d scene on your keyboard it'd be amazing I'd never bring that to a land party oh no Melissa had like like ten Kensington lock so neatly but yeah but it's it's very very cool pretty cool pretty good stuff so um that's pretty much that how much was the spacebar key B that would look sick though just a space just the space bar yeah I like on the whole keyboard we have full scene on it you know that would be with little nights writing to save like a princess from a dragon oh yeah I'd spend a hundred dollars on that because I know like and no one else is gonna have that oh yeah I would do it I just throw it down give me that shit anyway anyway that's gonna conclude if rotten heavy hardware good we have one more segment it is XX e we have one more segment to go over before we do we read off donations for this half of the show which is face off voice oh this is a segment where Paul and I go head to head and a oftentimes a crappy to to play your online game to members and even this is tube jumpers oh wait we did this last week we did let's do it again okay let's do it again fuck it the punishment is gonna be loser s to chug a beer so so here's the thing since I since then Simon I'm the home team I will chug the full beer should I lose and since you have to drive home you only have to chug half a beer okay if that's acceptable to you super acceptable okay that's good fuck it we'll do it live you got it players all right tube jumpers two jumpers is quickly becoming the official game of awesome hardware oh yeah the color shit I think we did red and blue right cuz it was like Intel versus a measly lb order the codes they got there right now no yeah yeah yeah I'll be Nvidia yeah oh there we go do you remember the buttons don't it'll tell you only one but it don't tell you press press it so I'm I W alright it was a trick what was the trick there was a trick mmm-hmm so I and W they actually make you jump and then also go forward and go forward yeah so I so you would press W to jump and then when you're airborne you can press you can mash W again to kind of push your character forward so that he doesn't fall behind and fall off of the okay so he doesn't land off of your little platform very I think I'm pretty sure okay we'll figure it out so um let's do first to what five okay first of five no is that too much best three of five best 35 okay here we go ready yes okay oh wow so sit around that's right you don't actually need to jump the little humps that we go over will pop us up in the air automatically okay high CPU usage detected I really need to swap out that i-5 for an i7 yeah you really especially because we're streaming at 60fps right now yeah sorry of the bit rates really low from guys affecting things sorry alright okay I'm at the front now oh it changed yep yep that's another thing that's a thing you got a count for it's a beach ball Oh a big one big big old Kahuna I went too far Wow what happens if I how are you so good at this I don't know what happens if I land on a raft mind blown it's a great question I'm gonna try that I'm ready all right oh oh yeah there's like obstacles I gotta be lying down when you're lying down that's it's the most ideal oh shit there's things here that's a big that's a big way oh my god why am i so high oh wait I'm green or night wait have I seriously with you I've been looking at you the whole time you were this guy the whole time I was you just lost your inch okay it's two to one now rule one know who you are okay I'm okay I'm okay it's weird because like like we're wearing different colors and our boats are also different another change that was a black guy last time yeah the skin colour like that happens they're not racist or anything but don't change my skin game sounds super racist doesn't it alright I think you're getting a hang of it though trying to put up a little bit more of a fight than I did oh shit you know what would do really well in this particular game is one of those analog is one of those analog keyboards what you're probably right now shark just fucked you up oh my god Mike I was I was on my thing I was safely nestled inside of my little boat on it and it just bring it on chat up and killed me you should've been prepared for the shirt so what is it is it to to to now to to Jesus for all the marbles alright here we go I am the black guy again you're a black guy means you die first nope that's how it used to be good what are you 17 bitch yeah black guys stand a chance what is the beach ball do I feel like I know which ball just throws you obvious bonus or something it just makes you wanna party oh oh oh no no that was a large way Wow I just I'm getting vertigo I just spun out it's lazy you didn't feel that humph before I did was a major kids well there you go folks I win tube jumpers yet again to time to jumper champion I don't have half a beer to drink I will finish this for sure okay fair enough and because I'm a good sport I'll kill the rest of my beer I believe we have a new castle over here as well I drink that much more that was that was our tube test all right Paul this is a tubular Cheers test Cheers all done I'm just gonna think it's my best but you have to choke solid chug solid Joe thank you I mean is the tube jumpers some more yep it'll tube jumpers we'll be back it's like it should know seems like it should be good she'll be all 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inquiring minds want to know salute amigos thanks f8 um what's your favorite type of beer my favorite beer type I mean if I had to choose I'd probably like brown ale and I mean I'm I find that there's quite a few of those that I enjoy but I like brown amber blonde I like lots of different types of ales like Porter yeah I like stout yeah I would say I'm not a big eye-dea gambler but that's but that's well then yeah I don't hate IPAs I just not my favorite okay hard grudge against me I like stouts Porter's Browns Reds and IPAs I'd say those are my favorite five I think that was five glorious uh Phoebe my supposed to do I have I like Locke backed myself into this corner have I painted eyes out of this corner where I don't have to your force announced all of his in an accent dhf with the $5 I cannot stay I'll put the gym to curl into squat rack squat at the bench press and the dead the rift in the walkway get good at a P P P P you BB a prayer I Ronin battleground pick up pick up pick up grounds you tried that right yeah yeah the other night you tried it's fun it was a lot of fun actually died um it's definitely more polished than h1z1 kind of a different game entirely but a lot of similarities okay and honestly I already kind of liked it within the first two hours of playing it so I'd imagine I get I'd become even more fond of it had I actually yeah learned the the fundamentals of how to play the game because it was literally our first time playing we didn't know anything so it's pretty cool though I played Grand Theft Auto 5 earlier today for some testing and I was like heaven forever I know classic thank you very much Stevie maybe those locks for the towns from the 10 a guys I have a 10 korzy on in an ex 99 I'm mostly multitask and media but want more than 2.5 gigahertz on turbo for occasional gaming should I now go AMD or should maybe I just got an Intel 6900 CPU Cheers wait you just overclocking it higher than 2.5 Xeon oh is he on sorry yeah yeah I would say since X 299 just launched to keep like a close watch on eBay and other secondhand sites for worse counts on inexpensive 6000 series X 99 compatible processors because you could theoretically get something like I don't say like 59 60 X 60 900k something like that yeah I mean you might be able to find yourself a good deal from someone who's trying to get rid of their old chip to upgrade or something outside of that I'd say I don't know I don't know you could you got a 10 core Xeon it's hard to say get rid of that 10 core Xeon for much that isn't going to be at least 10 core so ya know once you want to just sell all your x99 stuff and buying the thread ripper or something yeah sure I mean at least hang out and keep an eye on thread river that could be a viable option yeah seems to be running in a bit higher frequency mm-hmm so yeah Scot filmic 6.66 cents you guys need to how you a bit wit versus Paul's Hardware build off and Kyle's grandfather can be the celebrity judge and make cheater puns okay that's the best idea I've ever heard I like it yeah as long as he can wear his pimp out we make it happen yes we'll all be in pimp outfits actually maybe we'll be in onesies my grandpa can be a pimp outfit and and we'll just should I'll rent like 50 kittens because it's the internet and just 50 kittens will just be in the room with us as we try to build and they'll be like hopping on top like into the cases that were like trying to like mount motherboards into and things like that I think that'd be a great video it sounds pretty exciting actually you there's got to be a company that allows you to rent up to 50 kittens at a time if there's gonna be a company that a lot that does that it would probably be in this area yeah just for like video production and stuff like that totally yeah absolutely kitten kitten rentals kitten calli brenell's yep if not will start that will be the kitten rental company yeah I'll start breeding my cats a million dollar business idea right there SG Mansfield for the five bucks is getting a 34 40 by 1440 ultra-wide a good idea for gaming hurt the girth can be painful if you're not prepared would help for coating to the girth can be painful actually I it's very wet um make sure you have space I just published a video on five things I hate about my predator x34 ultra wide back there some people adulterer right now and the girth was one of those reasons more or less however if you're just strictly asking if it's good for gaming I think it's a great solution as long as your system can handle those extra pixels the nice thing about that resolution is that it's not quite 4k in terms of pixel count yeah so even if you don't have like a gtx 1080i or something like that you can still run it reasonably well there's not nearly as many pixels in that resolution count as 4k and it's cheaper potentially than a 4k whatever GC monitor I would say if you're gonna spend the extra money on that aspect ratio and that pixel count then get either g-sync or free sync based on the graphics card that you're currently using because I think that's huge having adaptive vsync is kind of a game changer if you're gonna be spending that much on a monitor you might as well get the technology built-in as well it's great for multitasking in some areas you might find that if you're gonna be mostly using it for coding over gaming that a 4k monitor might be a better option if you're gaining like 30% of the time encoding 70% of the time I would go 4k because I feel like editing on my ultra wide is very claustrophobic from a vertical standpoint I feel like all the extra pixels you gain with wise you lose out in a vertical sense and I feel very like almost like just collapsed and I feel like I'm in like the trash compactor in Star Wars where it's like just closing in every time I look at my time line and Adobe Premiere Pro and like yeah there's like so much I can see 35% more of my time lighter than any given moment I'm also losing the ability to expand my tracks when I need to in a vertical orientation so I I do miss out on the more traditional aspect ratio for productivity you know gaming wives Creative Cloud you can just mouse over any of the tracks and scroll your wheel and it'll make it bigger smaller make the timeline bigger or smaller no the trek oh the actual track size yeah but I but I generally like to sometimes there are certain situations where I like to max out the size of all the tracks so I can just sort of have a comprehensive look at it well I usually like to be able to see all the tracks whatever whatever width I have I like to be able to see everything like I don't like scrolling up and down in the audio yeah yeah the video section right I'm just saying with Creative Cloud that's one of the things I like having switched that from CS there from cs6 ya is I can just mouse over any of the tracks on the left side where has a track head headers yeah and just scroll the mouse wheel up or down and it'll middle let's go back a little bit that's pretty nice but I've tried Creative Cloud for several months and it did not work for me in reasons I can't really get into right now but I ended up losing a bunch of money on it because apparently I signed up for like some sort of year-long contract that they didn't make super upfront in the first place and I had to pay like for the entire year subscription even though I only used it for like three or four months but I got on the phone with them technical support and all that and they were basically you're wrong you don't know anything about computers so I was like yeah okay I'm gonna subscribe from your service thanks a lot like I called them five or six times and they were dicks they were total dicks man I've never had to deal with Adobe support no they're horrible I mean first off they outsourced to India which is I don't care I don't care where you're outsourcing all your calls to if like if I never hear from an American voice person you know for my tech support I don't give a shit as long as it's decent service but it wasn't it was just like some guy had like a list of like bullet points like he had a flow chart in front of him he's like alright you say this then I give you this response but anything outside of that I cannot I cannot give you any sort of help and so it was very frustrating I ended up spending over like I don't know I feel like over two hours three hours maybe on phone calls with Adobe trying to figure it out and CC Creative Cloud just did not work for me for some reason so I've reverted back to ca6 maybe I'll try Creative Cloud again one day but that was a very interesting story about me and my experience with I'm sorry they were dicks yep that sucks they had gotten the same brain treatment that those mice got freaking mice let's move on and yes 16 MB 67 but I digress in in a sense $20 Kyle thanks for your dedication to tentacle porn you're very welcome seriously thanks for the great content you provide to us tech 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only respond with five dollars or more put that in the description below anyway should I replace my fans of quiet ones or start water cooling if I should stick with the fans which ones hmm let's see if all you care is about is things being quiet then yes replacing your fans with quiet ones would be a good idea yeah if you want to blow in temperate dynamic bearing fans are particularly a favorite of mine maglev fans also good options there are available from various manufacturers coursers got a lineup for those if you want really really nice fans that might not look all that great Noctua if you want really good fans that still look pretty good knock to an industrial series the Frank Levin thérèse that are in hot line right now Frank Levin Therese really likes a good job there's lots of nice fans out there it's just like for the nicer fans that have better better motors and better bearings you typically have to spend more money yeah so usually it's gonna be like you know 15 to 20 ish dollars maybe 20 to 25 per per 120 to 140 millimeter fan yeah that's just kind of how it goes but once you upgrade your system fans to fans like that Google finds that you have a much quieter experience especially if you do something like it fans that have 4-pin pwm connectors that you can plug it all into your motherboard and have your motherboard do the fan speed control on them and that kind of thing that's a good option water cooling I would only go into if you've got extra money to spare that you don't care about and if you just want to like a trick you're making just yeah if you're just looking for the step up to the next level yeah water cooling simply to make things quieter I think is not the most practical no you can make it quiet enough rig without custom water cooling anything like that demo Johnny 7 cents nice that's all he says nice well nice back at saxena very much a demo Johnny again for the five dollars in three so three let me get Oh boneless hardware with a side of 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honestly though you can take credit for having one of the most interesting pin my PC submissions yeah because that was hilarious just like that hot chunk we talk about the hot choco for like an hour make that investigate that further Thank You Jordan you set a trend for all future pin my PC submissions they're all gonna have just little fun Easter eggs in the background Jordan we love you thank you hopefully you don't take it too harshly and thank you for the day I'm glad your original H 100 is still alive and kickin yeah cuz mine certainly not um Mike deeds for the 5 bucks no reliable would you say an external USB powered hard drive would be to store my videos for like forever um as reliable as a single hard drive is which is you know reasonably reliable but you know if it dies inevitably does it dies your stuff is gone so I could I would say to ya whether it's external or internal or like one internal one external whatever just as long as this two drives yeah just have it on two drives and then you're not completely safe your shit could still burn down if you have both drives in the same place or whatever but but at least if one drive dies you still have the other drive yeah that's not a it's it's a better backup solution that a lot of people have I will put it that way definitely crafty hack for the five bucks you guys should you guys really should not have an after party reverse psychology this time but really after party so um I'm gonna say potentially which is the most ambiguous response I can offer I understand and it sort of it sort of boils down to wifey sauce - yes I'm gonna blame the wife and put it all on her me - um no that's well after we have dinner after she makes me dinner and eat it I will ask her do you feel like playing video games with people and if she says yes then I will join her if she says no I will join her on the couch and we'll just Netflix for the rest of the night so that's that's where I lie on that who knows maybe I can convince her to play some battlegrounds again because see I don't even have that option because my wife doesn't go and play the video games with people in line with me mm-hmm I mean she did for a while with some some overwatch and stuff but she hasn't been able to as much recently so yeah it's more challenging to get her involved yes yeah when I'm back home after the show's over and I've been gone it's more about her yeah then it is that's and I'm blaming my wife - yay what are wives for anyway biggity bam $10 of $10 e-news salary dues please pronounce Aussie as the Aussie in Bosnia that is the correct pronunciation that would be better Aussie Aussie we got ten nosies ten Aussies for you I cannot do regretting as good as I can do the Phoebe Chao that's how bad I do attempted the Australian accent I see if you're saying Ozzie you just say Aussie no but just just that one word makes me want to say every other word in the sentence in that way Crocky it's like yeah anyway we'll try it we'll do our 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feeling this we've all I feel like Paul and I are both experienced that Ridge like yeah we got the RAM speed we wanted it's also a rising if you were an earlier adapter and you're getting stuff like the visa updates and stuff that they're posting to suddenly like download something that improves your performance yeah like that's always right cool yep Joel Bell Sita $5 yeah Joe Joe hey I forgot to mention this was my first time catching this stream live love you guys and the work you to do also my name is pronounced Joel Oh Joe Joel Joel sorry Joel that we've been pronouncing your name wrong job but thank you for the double May examination and welcome welcome to the live stream it's indeed I feel like the live stream the catching it catch catching the show live is is the way to go because it's there's no way we would like art like the amount of interesting things we say just like sort of decreases if you watch it let's move on let's move on bub gun 45 pop gun $5 hey Paul and Kyle I love your stuff also do you agree that fixing an old AF del with the one core Celeron 4 gig of ram and all hard drives should I make it a sleeper PC know anything or anything Segel core should go in the recycling bins upgrade your core components to maybe like a Rison system if you even got like a maybe an R 540 other case and a power supply in there that's functional but none of those core components or a hard drive yeah maybe maybe a hard drive for a backup storage but it looks like your your you're due for an upgrade like a massive overhaul it seems like yeah one core Celeron like that's like a ten year old system like just just move on and build something new yeah it's pretty much for you Japan girls Japan girl for the five bucks what GTX Carter Radeon should i target to play it with good FPS on higher settings on wow you can get away with high setting Wow like anything yeah like seriously like a rich lady Amy you any discrete graphics card that costs a hundred bucks or more at this point yeah will pretty much run while it 1080 no problem at all yeah GTX 10:50 on the low end or maybe even like an RX 5 60 and above yeah based on your budget and needs yep go for trivia Jim Jim for the five bucks I have to 360 by 45 rads to GTX 1080i Poseidon cards 4770k on water with Maximus 5 extreme motherboard and using a d5 pump pump speed that you would recommend I have no idea good lord to be honest that's a J question and he'll probably tell you that pump speed doesn't really matter or something like that I I don't know I can't tell you I don't even know what it like an average pump speed is 3500 feel like 800 to 1200 rpm I think it's reasonable but again like never go now said it's not something that I can answer off the top of my head is either as well as like somebody like Jay would as first pump speed what I was I don't think you have a pump header on that motherboard either unfortunately but in maximus v extreme but depending on the pump connection you should have either voltage or PWM control and I would say just run it as low as our rpm as possible to the header it's connected to and that's still giving you decent temperatures because pumps can make noise if they're running at higher speeds yeah that's about all I got I feel like whatever default pump speed that you're getting once you plug in to just a regular fan header on your motherboard is not going to vary that much if you really tuned the pump speed I can't imagine that you're like your temperature would change more than a degree or two which hopefully provide some piece of binders but moving on CCM 1-0 hey what's up CCM cesium hello Chris I am with crafty know after party tonight totally not fun or anything well good good toys a page yep if I don't do it after party night it's all your fault Scott offender maybe the piece Thailand Scott fanner Vander five dollars thanks for the PC builds going to do my first PC build next weekend wish me luck good luck good luck best of luck Scott Great Scott 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