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someone I think a forum member from hard OCP who was was basically known for having juicy rumors and leaks in the industry so doesn't give him any more credibility just means that he's he's leaked a bunch of stuff in the past account it does give him more credibility that you say he has been known to have positive like that implies credibility I don't know though it didn't necessarily specify that his leaks and an info was legit or that it was accurate but rather that he seems to be a source of leaks in general thanks for being clear that absolutely that this is a forum post forum posting that it's talked about there's a forum post just some dude on the Internet so apparently there's a AMD's and two samples that have already been handed over to the RTG Radeon Technology Group they've already received a sample why so early well apparently there may be a change with the interconnects between the CPU these n 2 CPU and AMD graphics cards so RTG needs the sample early so that they can sort of rework and optimize their video drivers to play nicely with the CPU you can cross fire yours into CPU with an AMD Radeon Vega 7 nanometre graphics card Cal is that what you're saying right now yes you need an you did an a/v link bridge they need to come up with an advanced name for crossfire than a V link maybe link okay link maybe link a be link that AV fire maybe fire there you go so I don't know that there's there's some other speculation here that this is going to be third gen res and mainstream chip that we're seeing here on the Sun to Architecture with a seven nanometer node so we've gone down from we've come from first generation which was 14 nanometer and then Zen plus was slight shrink to 12 nanometer and then we have seven animator with this third generation it's gonna be an 8 core 16 thread part that was come on a little disappointed that we weren't seeing like a higher core count I know that's kind we're kind of getting greedy now know that there's this core war between AMD and Intel and every generation just seems to step up well they'll kind of feel like Andy has let Intel catch back up now that you tell is you know supposedly gonna be long unique for 9900 K soon yeah I know and you know what's the deal AMD Intel always have the higher IPC instructions per clock but at least AMD always had that core that core leverage thread leverage over Intel until now now it's kind of an even playing field or even more slanted to Intel's favor because they have the higher eight IPC still but also the same number of course and threads potentially as AMD I think you know pricing could could definitely affect that though so anyway ain't core 16 threads we had some higher turbos see the years did a weird thing to 4 4 gigahertz base 4.5 gigahertz boost we don't know what motherboard the the CPU was tested on apparently was it was tested it was it was on the bench and stuff so it could be a new platform it could be a completely new chipset and socket or I would think it's the same socket but maybe a different chip set because AMD has mentioned many times in the past I think you can someone can some really awesome dedicated fan scrub through every single awesome hardware that we've ever done and just make a compilation of paul emptying out the last couple drops what I guarantee you it'll be like 10 minutes long cuz you know I've seen me before I like watching the strings back you'll sit there like a good 10 15 seconds make sure that I'm say you're very thorough I'm sitting here listening to you talk about some stupid thing what better potentially do flagship CPU from the one of the largest CPU manufacture right now I'm excited about this you know there's only one of two so I would expect hopefully maybe it would run at a higher frequency and then these end it seems like it stuff that we have turbos 24.5 turbos which makes me think that you'd be able to overclock on all course to maybe four point seven four point eight if you're lucky that'd be kind of claiming if you know if you know anything about every are doing and check keep like disappearing so I don't know I think I think we're still gonna be able to see some backwards compatibility a.m. he's been really good with that that was how they designed aim for and that was their that's always been their plan with a m4 was to make it future-proof so that people with older generation CPUs could slot them into newer boards and vice versa they were really good about that with horizon 2 I would imagine or I should say second generation I would imagine they're gonna be similarly attacking the third gen mainstream rice and chips in the same way so um let's see what else what else can we get here from this huge rumor the forum the forum member said that the CPU proves to be great in performance compared to an 8700 2k but that's a very vague statement we don't know exactly how it's being compared if that's like single core or multi-threaded performance in what games is that is that even a game is that a synthetic tester like there's it's very vague could be anything and it's at the other day it could be all fake too so um we don't really have much to go on here rumors are also suggesting to 10 to 15 percent bump in IPC over the current 12 nanometers and Zen + architecture Zen plus was a three percent about a three percent performance boost / first generations n just Zen non plus and so now we're gonna potentially see 10 to 15% over that which makes sense because this is a whole architecture change not just a refinement and and that's actually pretty good 10 to 15% would get it definitely a bit closer to Intel and make it more competitive in that department so I guess we'll just have to wait and see if all these rumors end up being true and and we'll keep a close eye on this and they would potentially have a little goofy advantage too if they can actually ship 7 nanometre processors true in in bulk since Intel still can't really attend meet ship to 10 nanometer stuff right what's that's good to hear hopefully the rumor is true I'm excited I like raisin I want AMD to continue doing good stuff I don't want it to go like now that they're know that they made a comeback to some degree it's like ooh now they have more to lose and now now I'm like I get slightly nervous that Intel is just gonna eventually pass them up again and we're gonna be back to square one I don't think we will go back to square one like before the risin days like pre risin era but raisins I'm sorry Intel's got a lot of got a lot of money they've got a lot of they got a lot of cash flow they got a lot of resources and AMD has the burden of attacking both the CPU and the GPU market getting hit sort of on both sides by Intel and NVIDIA so they're kind of spread pretty thick but I'm hoping for the best I always root for the underdog usually unless I'm like betting money on the winning dog then I I bet I hope the over dog wins but I'm not betting on either of them I I own stocks on both of them I usually bet on the over cat ah the lateral move it's never a bad choice the internet degrees all right so next up we've got an article here from variety I never go to variety I only went I just picked this article because it was between this and polygon I just felt sometimes you get them maybe this polygon and kotaku and I just don't worry-you is the most kind of mix things up get some Oh this table over here so this is it's bolted I know you anticipated my moves properly so this is about fantasy author and aundre's spouse cousin Sapkowski oh he's from Poland that's that explains that he's the author of The Witcher fantasies of Kowski Kowski under it so this guy is like the mind behind the the fantasy narrative of The Witcher franchise that's a pretty cool that is no that is the Seth Meyers he's a late-night talk show host folks Paul do not pay attention to the ads so this guy when when The Witcher was first be first Witcher game CD Projekt RED which is the developer went up to Andres and we love your work bro we'd love to give you some royalties pay you out royalties based on the profits that we make off his game if we can own the copyright you know all the copyright stuff to your work I love antes and he and this author said no and I quote he said they offered me a percentage of their products I said no there will be no profit at all give me all my money right now the whole amount it was stupid I was stupid enough to leave everything in their hands because I did not believe in their success but who could foresee their success I couldn't so that was a direct quote from the author basically admitting at least he admits it I was dumb to think and to not believe in in their success and to not think that this was gonna be the massive success that it was and he's right how could you predict that it's kind of kind of hard to project so any games gonna take off and what's that you never know when a game is given to never know you never know um so but now he's a little salty actually he's very salty to the point where he's seeing all the all the cash fall all the money that the developers are raking in from a game that was based a game franchises whole franchise that was based off of his fantasy lore you know so he's hired a team of lawyers I suppose and they're gonna there they might take this to court they're demanding 6% of the franchise's profits do you want six percent of the franchise's profits is for The Witcher franchise substantial about sixteen million dollars oh it's in the headline or sixty million polish Schlotzsky's I don't know that's not the right it's nothing right currency it all for polish but it's letting in in Europe it's it's usually either the Euro or whatever the native language word for crown Crona yeah Corona Corona 16 million Corona for Karuna with line yeah no it stretch to the seats like as lots of whatever I'm not gonna try pronouncing it so anyway that's a lot of money sixteen million um I didn't really get I think I read it's on this article and the different article I you ready to cross verify some stuff I think I read that the amount he got paid the Athene that he agreed to his one lump sum was less than ten grand oh damn he got paid less than like $9,500 this would be quite an upgrade quite an upgrade yep the benchmark Greta fun that would be substantial so if I know how lawyers work they're probably aiming high and then they're hoping to land somewhere and arbitrate this too short to get him something in between which human thousand and sixteen million dollars which even so you know halfway between that midway point wouldn't be bad so I don't know I feel like this is a very polarizing thing some people are gonna side with the developers some people are gonna side with the author I guess the grounds that the the developer that I'm sorry the author's lawyers were saying is that apparently the contract was only written for the first Witcher game and it did not include all the following titles and all the DLC that came afterwards so this author is entitled to the royalties on all those so but you know who's to say we don't have the con we don't have all the contracts and the fine print in front of us so we can't really say but it is it is quite quite a stirrup say the least stirrup this is so this is a moral the story here is believe in your devs get back in the saddle if you're gonna you never underestimate the the power of viral this where your traps where your yeah that's it cuz I'll hide because they don't he doesn't wear chaps in The Witcher because I think then the first scene the cinematic scene you see Gerald's pass that's just riffing you said stirrups like randomly for no reason oh oh yeah sorry and I'm just thinking about video game characters asked for some reason um alright anyway let's let's move on before before we dive in good idea ass a little more that's next next we have another article in WCC of tech this is about Amazon raising their minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour a funny picture if we go as employees I feel like all pictures of Jeff Bezos are funny it's like he's shocked but slightly intrigued it's like somebody that's probably what seems like it matches what he's me what he's looking at that made him make that face my penis someone meme that image immediately okay so this goes into effect November first 15 bucks an hour boys at work at Amazon this will affect all 250,000 full-time and part-time employees as well as seasoned employees which is 100 we have about a hundred thousand seasonal employees every year so that's 350 foul people who will be making at least fifteen bucks an hour that's a pretty substantial we'll have to wait for the queue for reports to see how this is gonna actually impact Amazon as a business with their stocks and all that sort of thing how it's gonna impact investors because that's crazy um Sencha lee these people are gonna be doing the same amount of work creating the same amount of an outside but they're gonna be making some employees will be making substantially more than they ever have been so it'll be interesting to see how that impacts Amazon as a company and their investors and how Amazon would plan to sort of counteract the that effect right are they going to charge more for shipping to non-prime customers or are they gonna have to raise the rates on some of their products I don't know well Jeff the wait and see for the q4 reports but it is quite interesting and maybe I mentioned Jeff is probably gonna have to put off some of his cybernetic upgrades yes yes as a nog as an Augmented human being there's potentially true what was like a Amazon fire stick come out of his finger something like Inspector Gadget that's classified what if he only starts speaking in Alexa voice like Alexa does all the talking for him like he just replaces his his vocal cords with like an Amazon echo it's probably something that like a brain mesh that like can connects him to the Amazon customer database he knows what everyone's buying at any given moment so he can make analyze trends and stuff like that and also the direct connection to Alexa be a really weird superpower to have I'm sure Marvel and Disney will pick it up and eventually all right so I don't know and this suspiciously comes right after senator bernie sanders proposed his Bezos Act Bezos Act which basically says that Amazon workers are relying too much on government subsidies to survive and and the Act basically gives profitable profitable employers like Amazon a choice of either paying their workers a fair wage or they can pay for the public assistance programs that their low-wage employees are forced to depend upon because they don't pay them enough so right after that very shortly after that Amazon does this whole 15 hour and also there was another article maybe a week or two ago about Jeff Bezos dumping in like a billion dollars or something like that two billion dollars into the listen not not not not until I could not in a literal sense but rather to like I was like two homeless homeless something for homeless people dumped a billion dollars unto homeless people I wonder what that would what that would do this do you think they just be like so stunned that I pick it up I'm not familiar with this story you're referencing some really intrigued it with yeah he used to billion of I think his own money I'm not sure I think he's having a real he's he's going through some crazy guilt trip right now after the Bernie Sanders thing okay I think he's he's having some serious guilt on his shoulders I mean which is not surprising he's been deemed the richest human being in all of human history today pass the absolute yeah I think he passed uh Bill Gates Bill Gates by by far yeah okay he's worth more than Bill Gates in like Elon Musk and who's the other one maybe Zuckerberg combined or some summaries Goodman s is a monopoly guy not bully guy he's got lots of money the giraffe from Toys R Us all of his Jeffery bucks I mean this guy and Jeff Jeff Jeff versus Jeff Jeff Raph Matt uh no I'm trying to say this guy is having a panic attack and probably wondering like probably thinking that the whole world hates them for being the richest dude alive so some good things are happening because of this every employees gonna be making at least fifteen bucks an hour or more that's what at least means so this could affect the q4 quarterly results we don't know and it seems that the Amazon so far has been greeted with a lot of positive feedback from this move people are are praising Amazon at the moment for all the progressive decisions that they're making recently I felt positively about this when I when I heard about it this morning you know I I mean it doesn't forgive Amazon for some for a lot of the other stuff that they've done so it's not like it's absolute but it's good that they did it before the holiday season they could have waited until after they're currently hiring on for the busy season seasonal workers and stuff like that and I believe this does extend to temp workers and stuff as well from from whatever yeah so that's that's that's all good for people who might be struggling to get by for anyone who's like international are not familiar with how minimum wage works in the US it's usually regional so depending on the state so some people this might affect more than others depending on what the current state minimum wage might be but I was reading some responses from people like I'm currently making 12 or something and this bumps me up to 15 that's a decent jump for a lot of people family especially if you're you know struggling to get by you know raising a family or something and hopefully this would follow the whole theory that the more people get paid the better a job that they do or they feel like they're happier with their job and so they they put a little bit more effort into it that doesn't always apply but maybe in a broader sense we can see some some good morale a good morale boost with within the company which is always good trend that trickles down to the customers at the end of day so let's move on to a not so happy story about another tech giant Facebook Facebook getting hacked like a mofo like a BAM like a bitch Facebook was hacked recently 50 million user accounts were compromised 40 million perhaps more this has been the biggest breach the social media giant has ever experienced in their history of existence 3 bugs were allegedly used in the breach the attackers stole user access tokens which basically tell the site verifies your identity and tells the site what that user has access to what information pride that includes like DMS like private messages all that shit can be had with an access token this also affects any site that uses facebook login so Instagram a bunch of news sites in Girt MJ imagery I don't know if imagery uses facebook login but there's a ton of sites that use faces a lot of face it those are all affected don't use your Google account to log into stuff don't use create and dedicated doing this stuff make separate password use a password manager yes your browser's password manager yes and and the reason is is because these these huge huge tech companies Google Facebook etc they tended they do tend to have better security on average than like a million little sites do but the trade-off there is that when those sites get breached it's a mass it's a millions of users are affected to message it's a mass effect good reference it's a shit show it's a total shit show so that's the trade-off there and and if you guys are curious at all as to how the hackers may have pulled this off just a very high-level idea here there was some specialist in the article that was like I know things and this is probably how they did it so essentially to get those access tokens the hackers were exploiting the site's view as feature I don't never used this but the view as feature basically allows you to view your profile through the eyes of a different user so if you wanted to suffer example if you blocked your dad the example that they gave is if you blocked your dad on Facebook from seeing your photos you just said you know you because you can do those permissions dad cannot see my photos you check photos you can do the view as feature to see what your profile would look like from your dad's perspective so the hackers apparently exploited that feature on Facebook to see what - basically view and change alter anything on someone's profile so for example if a user via view as impersonated a friend of theirs who themselves had another friend who had a birthday the feature would would also show a box prompting them to post like a happy birthday video and then that video apparently would create would both generate and send the the attacker a user token or an access token for that particular user and then they from there they'd be able to use that access token to access and modify and just basically yeah basically just you would have all access to all their data and if they can create an algorithm that just does that same behavior on a massive scale you can see how they could easily affect compromised 50 million accounts within very little time so it's it's a little bit scary to think that a website as big as Facebook with so many users can be hacked I don't want to say hacks so easily but that it can definitely be hacked you know experts are saying that this required a lot of technical skill to pull off but you know hackers usually work in groups and so when you have when you're pulling that many minds together on on a single thing on cracking a single barrier there's obviously there's a much higher chance of them getting through and so yeah you know no one no one is truly safe at the end of the day we're all susceptible to these breaches so I think if your instructions are pretty clear for the most part but that am I able to apply this view ass picture there's selection to any of my friends yes to any of your friends okay to anyone who follows you you can just do you ask view ass that's just right there yep if you as a s not two S's that would be a definite breach of privacy and a serious concern that Facebook probably I want to concern themselves with I was thinking about kind of Facebook but I guess never mind no that wouldn't you want to check out ass book for that that's said you're on the wrong side of the internet ass book comm trust me but enough about that let's let's move on to maybe another I'm just gonna go through a raw emotional roller coaster right now guys and take you on it because those next articles pretty cool buckle up buckle up bitches asus rog doubling down on dram double d rama to sport double capacity BB ram gen its Triple D ringing now double capacity dims I'm rocking some D ddr4 modules DDR so this is one overclocked 3d apparently for their next-gen motherboards I would assume Z 390 for example asus rog there ROG division is planning to support double capacity technology the picture they're showing says LG a one one five one so yes yes 390 yep there you go so this is sort of an idea as a surrender but it's gonna gives you sort of an idea of what this double capacity dam will look like so fast that like makes it your - EP you like globe molten hot lava I mean that's that's where we're headed fall is is RGB trace layouts that's pretty sweet so you can see that the day burger oh my god no engineer go to voltage but tell me that wouldn't sell for so hard ok if every trace play out ok 15 fifteen thousand people quit at Asus incorporated issues check has lost half their workforce so this is this is cool 32 gig modules basically by elongating the the modules themselves making these sticks twice as tall so that you can fit more memory though yes you can see like all the DRAM chips on there right little wide the dim saw socket is there's no way we can fit more in there it's a maximum width and you know one guy spoke acoustic what if we go you get a promotion sir so yeah that's basically all it is it's sort of a new form factor but kind of not in a way I feel like it's gonna still slot into a regular dim slot but perhaps the trace layouts will have to be different as Asus was saying through this article is that they they're gonna be manufacturing custom boards that have unique trace layouts to accommodate and support this new technology where we stop to wait and see if other vendors are gonna follow suit we haven't heard any word from Corsair or G skilled and so forth to see if they're gonna hop on board this bandwagon but I would imagine that some of them have to this is the heck is this zenyk is one of the first they're one of the first manufacturers to have developed double capacity dims so asus wouldn't be the first in the market with this technology this has already been done I should have started off with that but ACS is definitely you know sort of the bigger brand within the PC DIY gaming market so yeah this isn't gonna really appeal to many people only the the most hardcore of workstation users you know professionals and stuff who need to leverage 64 gigs plus of ddr4 memory but there you have it there you have it we'll see if other board manufacturers offer this as well well we've typically seen as ACS is definitely a huge innovator in the game and will come to market with a new technology or some sort of new standard and then slowly other manufacturers will kind of follow suit and stuff we've seen that time and time again this could be another one of those we'll see and then finally last article here in the news segment we have a battle we have a showdown of sorts it's the Battle of the bridges what a battle battle of the NV link bridges Paul okay because this is also from overclock we're asking people this question first ruffle yes the straw poll which we're gonna drop at a chat right now nobody vote yet you haven't seen these yeah maybe don't give it to the minnows that one and then there's this one three you guys get to vote all right enemy link bridge is the best correct and of course you didn't give them the option for the the og and video like the standard and video one should I I don't know well that was not RGB though no one's gonna pick that it's battle of the Adhan board partner RGB envy link bridges okay which is a little long but I'm sticking to it alright so our three options are the asus rog bridge there it is there it is three blocks some fresh metal you can see the leads come anigh angles and i want to point this at you because they actually show i actually have seen this bridge in person although they wouldn't let me steal it from them it they put they put brush metal and an RG logo on the back of the bridge that you will never see this on the back it's just that it's attention to detail so if it's the finished completed finished project I guess I guess the back makes sense for like articles like this yeah when you're taking a picture of the back of its the box is all Dale using this r-tx anyway next we have the gigabyte gigabyte Horace looks like they got a three slot in the fourth slot version it's good but yeah I mean it's a little simple it's very simple that simple I mean there's this texture part it is it's different that the three slot in the four slot version there's this extra textured piece and yes I think up to room you know might as well throw some sexiness in there so something just disconnect from your computer oh rip camera hold on what Wow dad I can fix it were you not plugged in the power I think it's still here slow right yeah they should be able still here there we go okay okay that's what happened before there's something with the rips I don't know everyone swell just I get it the rip saw just ripped yeah rip okay all right I think we're back on track now yeah so the horse bridge looks pretty good it's hard to see where the RGB elements are I would think within the Auris lettering and then the sort of yeah it's not lit up there's definitely more it looks like there's more RGB on the right than the left because the right side has a little on the left see it there's got the little slots here slits on the top top left that yeah that's not there on the three slot range is that light up oh I don't think that lights up mainly that's just shiny plastic it looks like it's like a semi opaque opaque type of plastic oh it's not really it's yeah I think what's gonna light up is your is your edge of the Auris okay oh and then the Auris logo in the middle could be totally wrong but that one doesn't have it the three slot doesn't have that little accent so yeah there are definitely some physical changes it's jarring jarring the very sharp very charged EVGA going with the sort of okay does EVGA have some sort of fascination with bees cuz I always get like sirs-e hives out you feel a beehive vibe from them do you remember the ten series cards how there was very hunt they were very high yeah design okay and now I'm getting sort of again like sort of like a like an insect pod I don't know why maybe it's just me slightly like it's so it's still got angles and stuff it looks very ease a little bit more rounded at the edges I know I'm not saying I don't like it and since it's very it's very specific very stylized look and I think in the right build it would look great I like they've included a couple pictures showing what lights up in the different colors that's that's nice I think it definitely has the most surface area of a lumen ated surface area out of the three bridges that we've seen as cure so if you're just a bling whore then this is the bridge for you again EVGA EVGA Horus Horus and asus those are our options yeah we haven't give me yet giving you guys too much time to respond but we're still gonna look at the results take a look Zeus in the leaves is winning by quite a by quite a large margin have to wonder if that's because that's who we talked about first and people were just immediately struck by it or are people just me people just like in better now I honestly like the Asus one out of the bunch the mostly as well both still coming in Cal is this is this linked in your video description nope nevermind alright we're gonna revisit it so it's just a it's just a song live this is live baby so thanks to be 250 issue voted yep thank you guys and it's just good job on your winning design yeah and good job on the runner-ups alright before we move on to the second segment we have a spawn we have a sponsor for today's show - Toshiba and basically Toshiba wanted us to show you guys these SSDs that they have booth there in a few different varieties and I believe all of these are using their BICS flash memory which seeks which is which is more affordable so you can get a very reasonably priced SSDs that are still quite fast and everything so we have the Toshiba X 700 here in the middle which is an external basically like a 2.5 inch style SSD it's got USB type-c on it I believe it's also USB 3.1 gen2 so that's cool but yeah we're gonna unbox one of these right now any standards only choose one pretty standard say that say the rev three speeds yeah what's like so is this external or not that's external okay okay USB three okay got it that's external cool so Andy yeah you got the Tara 200 which often has really really good prices I've recommended this for quite a few different system builds because just a solid you know standard SATA SSD yeah this is a 240 gig but I believe it's also available in 512 and I think it goes it might go up above that as well we're gonna quickly unbox this little one no because it's the most fun yeah it's a it's the the m-dot to OCZ RC 100 actually never use later no I got it got it yeah it's a little sticker I mean I thank you nope I got it all I could get a knife yeah independent oh wow they're very it's a very small bang man so this is actually what's the length on this guy it's a 22 point 2 42 42 22 42 so 42 millimeters long definitely a lot shorter than most standard and about two drives you've seen I love this this is gonna be great in like a mini ITX build I mean yeah nem got to drive is pretty good for for keeping things nice and compact it's a PCIe gen3 by 2 connection nvme standard so it is the newer standard you're gonna get a little bit of extra performance out of that when it comes to stuff like boot times and everything yeah but yeah RC 100 available Medus at fine retailers online and otherwise so check out these products find products from Toshiba and a big THANK YOU to Toshiba for sponsoring awesome hurt me it's so small that it could just magically disappear into my pocket didn't follow me home well we do need to bring them to your place next week so and we might might just do that there you go all right all right thanks for Sheba yeah all right let's move on from sponsor spot to pip not PC we're doing the Mini ITX edition yo Mini ITX dish we need to add the sponsor link to the video's description oh yes coming soon yes you can oh you didn't you already did yours no all right all right so let's let's do the Mini ITX pin my PC we're going small form-factor today because we got to show the SFF crew some love we usually you know ATX and ATX usually hogs the show so I figured it was time that we do around some smaller bills so this first ones from dr. Luke G also mini mini and micro Girl mini what they're all many many nevermind almani he said he gave us a PC part pick or list so it looks like he's have a core i5 8400 in here with a crier ring c7 great little low profile cooler and asrock be 360m Mini ITX of course AC Mini ITX motherboard g.skill ripjaws 5 16 gigs to buy a king sticks a 250 gig 850 Evo and looks like I've got a gtx 1066 gigabyte card super clock from EVGA inside of the cooler master elite 130 mini ITX tower case and let's take a look at this system here I really like this case I've never built in it personally but it's always been sort of in the back of my mind as consideration for a small cube case this thing is basically just a frame it's like a shoebox sized case that just has some mounting points on it for a motherboard power supply and and it's really really compact but you've chosen parts wisely in here it seems to make it look pretty cavernous like well cuz it's everything's very very bunched up so like his motherboard he's even got an additional cooling fan pumping in some air from the side which which I appreciate there yeah and then the power supply is just right on top of it and all the cables are you know there's not a lot of place to put them it's hidden here but they're all tied up pretty well yeah so with those out of the way there's just there's a lot of empty space right up here in the front which is great I mean it's rare that you have a case this small and have that much empty space where you've got like 50% just room for activities or air aka airflow he asked us what he should do with it like I'm not exactly sure what you could throw in there apart from like you had an 80 400 so you're not overclocking I mean I would say like you know if you had an overclockable CPU maybe an all-in-one or something that you could run the tubes over there please have more 80/60 motherboard - yeah so you're not overclocking so I mean we'll use storage storage basically this is what you have as a possible expansion there you can add more you can maybe makeshift a 3.5 inch cage to add some more hard drives or maybe do a little SSD array in there for for some super fast storage or something I'm not I wonder can you forget if you can mount a 120 read at the front of the case where that fan is good you could definitely swap out the motherboard and CPU for something overclockable and and keep it cool yeah that would fill it out a little bit more I'm not either way I mean you can still upgrade your your graphics card yeah that would take up a little bit more space table almost basically what you have you've allotted yourself more space for something like that honestly from an aesthetic point of view though all you could really do here is maybe get custom cables that are better cut to length cables that are just perfectly perfect length you have to measure it out and get them professionally done or do it yourself god help you and I think that would that would make it look really nice super clean but again it's something that you would only like you yourself would just take pride in it because no one else would really be able to see it in this case there's a window yeah unless you wanted to make your own window I mean knock yourself out if you're open to that sort of thing but it looks it looks fantastic yeah very well done yeah thank you sir thank you doctor let's move on to Maui Wowi I think that's how you parent me he's a little bit late a core i3 8100 once again we have a 8000 series processor from Intel with a bit quiet shadow rock slim that's great cooler 8 gigs HyperX fury ddr4 2666 MSI GTX 1060 we have once again a GTX 1060 however this one's a three Kingdom bike cart we have a 250 gig Samsung Evo 960 and/or a 960 Evo and gigabyte Z 370 and so you're gonna see 370 motherboard in there but not an overclockable CPU 400 watt be quiet straight power 10 and this is all inside of the Nano s from fractal design one of my favorite mini ITX cases for its time so this is a very clean build ya cable management is like very clean very well done I like it I have not seen this before taking the peg connector from the graphics card yeah passing it through the two front intake fans I like that I haven't seen it before I like it yeah I mean thought I think if it was longer and you could hide it from the the reservoir the reservoir wall got across here in the back yeah or maybe like position it so that it's right behind them the graphics card so if you're looking at it dead-on it's kind of hard to see thank you down there and then across right I'm not sure if that would work but um but but it's very clever what you have I mean it's going pretty straight across there so it's not it's not too bad pretty clever and yeah cable management is just super on point ah and you've got it look different here maybe it's an older picture right it's probably messed with it here it goes down yeah it's kind of more traditional here it goes across in between I think on the bottom one he looks like he went down and maybe he routed it underneath the front fan cuz it looks like it's still down and around and coming from there either way it looks great ok umm actually like that way a little bit better once the side panels on and stuff and then I mean custom cables really cuz everything's so clean already that I think a custom set of sleeved cables would would do you some good yeah so definitely this it's not as visible and with the side panel because it's being blasted out by the LEDs but um I think removing your power supply sticker it's a lot of small text on there that probably isn't looking the greatest and I'm very much like a fan of like balancing colors so if you just have like one red element in your case like your graphics card I usually like to add some red elsewhere in the system just to sort of tie everything together so it doesn't stand out so much but more more so looks intentional so maybe you know I don't know I'm sure I mean the HyperX kit that you have in there is perfectly fine for your memory but if you wanted to get some red ones they if they also have them in red with red heat spreaders be kind of cool if one of the one of them was red and one was black that would look good that would totally look good maybe a black and red fan for your cooler black and red fans for your existing case fans if you want to spray it and do some spray-paint action but that's all just personal taste it's very subjective it's all aesthetic and overall this is a really clean system I agree I don't know why I picked it it's perfect yep thank you very much Travie next up we have mei-ling mei-ling mainly sorry amazing that's the only way that you can pronounce that name meline t to be exact as rock fatality a be 350 horizon 520 400 G 128 gig m2 SSD one terabyte mechanical rage and tech Metis meanness Medus me just I don't know how to pronounce that made his + Metis Menace plus with a corsair CX m 550 watt 80 plus bronze and xpg spectryx and believe that's the memory nice photos and 16 gigs ddr4 give my GTX 1060 s10 GTX 1060 s must be the that's the car that you go if you have a mini super small form-factor maniacs oh yeah when they can make them this small yeah yeah definitely I think you can make it 1070 the gigabyte makes 1070 with that exact same cooler on it too super fast though so this is actually really nice system I wanted to say real quick there was a mailing I used to work on the egg expert myhnegon expert was the forums on new egg and there was a mailing who was a very frequent contributor there I wonder if this is the same mailing but maybe anyway I try these names so you know yeah yeah so very nice pictures I'm only 5 billion people who have their names ok very compact build this is probably the least flattering picture but it also shows us a lot of what's going on inside there coz right there's a lot of cables and you know there's not a lot of space of room to work with here so how's this your first shot looks so clean except it does it's like wow what did you do with all your cables yeah and let the side panel off there so it's also interesting to see that this case Orient's the GPU on the top yeah where it's like horizontal it's because I was trying to figure out how it was all oriented from this from the the GPU picture that you had yeah I was like wait what that doesn't make sense but yeah I see I see now how how how this case works oh I think that again with the really small form-factor build like this custom sleeve cables that are cut to size go a long way and as far as like you know you actually have a case here a mini ITX case that's this small that has a window it's very pretty rare how many cases this size do so it kind of matters a little bit more I guess if you care about that sort of thing this is PIP my PC after all what the inside looks like at least on the CPU side CPU side of things which is great you've got some RGB here you've got you know your your AMD raid spire perhaps I think that might be a spire cooler or yeah along with that RGB memory and it looks really nice the cable management again with custom slave cables that that would be fixed up it looks a little bit like that you can tell there's like a lot of excess cabling here that doesn't really have anywhere to go but the case is smaller than like the cables don't need to be as long as they are for a case this size but I will say that with everything with the side panel on the cables are all drawn away to a point where you can't really see them true command we see the the good part so true so that's well then good point and know everything else looks pretty good ya know maybe use oh yeah and I see some like just regular plasticky or just the regular twist ties swap for zip ties so we need some high-quality zip ties swapped in for those you mean tweezers tweezers called tweezers Paul weave anyone who's watched the Verge's pc build video knows that those are called tweezers I stand corrected yes you do alright but everything else looks really solid loving that video card thank you very much mr. mailing or mrs. or miss mailing or none of the above who knows probably miss probably miss mister missus mister missus okay moving on to Martin Martin Martin team Martine has a core i7 7700 K overclocked to 4.6 gigahertz finally now we're getting somewhere you know we have a really fast high IPC quad-core hyper threaded core i7 chip in a mini ITX bill that is overclocked gigabyte z170 n perfect to 16 gig sticks of Corsair Vengeance lpx well you've got 32 gigs of ram in here nice with the GTX 1080 so this is a very very high-end built ah this is this is a monster this is a little beast so to speak with a Noctua NH u9s with to knock to it and if eat a ate fans there will take 200 millimeter front fan in the front inside of the Thermaltake core V one very popular mini ATX case a thermaltake core b1m X 300 one terabyte SSD of course and a 4 terabyte hard drive in there whoo power supply is a supernova 715 killing it with the specs bro the specs are off the chain and your cable working stuff looks pretty good there's the motherboard again motherboard was I think was MSI oh I'm sorry gigabyte Gaz 170 M gaming five I will personally say that I know the angle at which you had to install your graphics card angle the graph of the graphics card if you look especially like this the side angle shot of it is probably a really good example of it oh yeah much long it's longer than the case itself sure you cannot just drop it in straight straight down it you have to get any one sign end of it in and get it down in there and then get the other one and then let it settle and like for you have this moment of panic really this is this good this is gonna fit like a vine am I gonna have to shave a corner of it off or something like that yeah yeah don't um alright so I managed to make it fit so she said um all right somehow turn all of your Noctua fans all black yeah well I shouldn't really magic we do that problem solved replace them with the nock to a chrome axe fans sure with the black fans correctly bands are not available in all different sizes and shapes and these are what sizes are eighty or ninety to I think the 92 millimeter is the one on the CPU and ninety I'm not I'm not positive it I have to look at this I think you're right it's definitely smaller than a 120 yeah they're not one twenties though yeah yeah that's why I say use magic use magic to turn these all black yeah I mean just just magic magic yeah thank you for getting the pivot reference check uh so we have a lot of extra cables down in the basement I mean and I'm only pointing this out cuz like it stands out in the picture from the side I don't know what you can do with it it's a power supply that has a lot of cables yeah sleeves yeah more custom sleeves and yep change those like like like Paul said do magic oh there there who said that Chet great Juan and Chet said there might be Redux versions of these fans that you could swap out there you go it might have equivalent performance that are kind of that great they're kind of a gray and gray yeah I'm used those before from the silver build those are nice again that positive but that might be a an option I know they have 80 millimeter for sure yeah but yeah overall like I think you've done for the amount of hardware you have in here like there's other than some caves some custom cables that are like cut to length for for the short runs that you have to make I think you've done everything you can yeah the things about us that's a beastly system in that little $40 case yeah 40 is like 40 45 bucks exactly little fans n be six to seven thank you very much with the risin risin seven seventeen hundred and Noctua NHL nine CPU cooler an asus rog Strix be 350 ITX motherboard 16 gigs of g.skill transy 3200 speed samsung 860 Evo one terabyte SSD of course there SF 600 and a galaxy gtx 1070 katana all inside of the dan casey 4's effects v2 I have seen this system before MV is shared with me in the past and I thought it was absolutely gorge so I guess you can consider this sort of a semi submission half submission half honorable mention I really love how this system is set up I think it's really clean your cable management looks a thousand times cleaner than mine the work that I did in my recent damn case build I don't know how you did it it just looks super clean and you're using stock cables and everything just looks insanely good I love I love the memory and and the CPU fan that cooler is probably one of those popular to use for this case because the Z clearance on the CPU coolers here for this chassis is so limited yeah which is also why you went with a risin 7 1700 which is a 65 watt TDP chip I think that was a really smart move so I'm sure your thermals are fine also the GPU I think is a great choice you went with a blower style cooler it's a katana it's a blower style cooler but it's not just like a founders edition it's not just like a really nasty like I don't know like so there's some lousy turbo cooler cards out there this one looks badass though is the not a single slot or one-and-a-half slot I feel like it's narrower than most oh you might be right could be right yeah yeah see Steve has hardware hardware I'm buck steve is a video on it is that then yeah it's definitely thin maybe even single slot is it a single slot Wow in that's pretty badass sweet sweet okay cool yeah I'm great choices all around be great yeah I mean I really there's not much that can be done to boost the appearance of this rig other than you know customs leave cables and maybe getting a more color neutral fan I mean I know that that's slimming not to a fan at 19 millimeter fan is really good for what it is so I swapped my Knock to NHL nine NHL nine fan for the 92 millimeter Redux version I have which is pretty much equivalent performance maybe even slightly better than this one slim is what is it's not slim though it's thicker so you would lose some of that Z height and I'm not sure it would fit in here probably not probably not anything much thicker than this at all is like no-go it's like this or the c7 cry rig those like the two air like high-performing or like sort of acclaimed critically acclaimed air cores that will fit anything beyond that like even add five ten millimeters like no chance it's a very very limited case in that sense but there is the the ace of tech 92 millimeter a IO that you could drop in there if you wanted to do some modifications I think it's great yes very good thank you very much MB and that will conclude Pitts my PC for today yay as well as my segment for that matter thank you guys for watching don't go anywhere though because Paul's half is just around the corner and you should stay tuned for that it may be I have so gonna be a little short but also slide the after party for today we're gonna be streaming that to YouTube as well as as well switch so stay tuned 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