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Awesome Hardware #166-A: RTX 2070 Weigh in, AMD releases BS RX 580, Smartphone Roundup

2018-10-16
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becoming more trouble than he's worth like that's that's that's been my concern yes to all of those questions perhaps anyway 20 70s though there's a lot of reviews out I did a review on the 20 70s all did why don't we about that actually okay there is the mega thread that the Paul has brought up or that he did have brought up earlier presses a button they can see it mmm if you pressed the button there's the mega thread Paul has also been added to this list so you can you guys should check out Paul's video and the hardware subreddit so the hardware's have read it and Paul your TL DR according to to to this reddit post and seven actually you comment that you you're actually at the top you're the top comment on this thread that's a few sort by best cuz it's the best it is the best comment irrefutable you said that the five hundred dollar version the you found which I would imagine was a kind of blower style cooler no that's the two cards at least you know you get four ninety-nine you still get a a kind of like more upscale type of cooler not just enclosed crappy blower blower fan design he said it was three percent faster than a manufacturer's overclocked factory overclocked e-text and 83% pretty VGA for the wind to to be specific okay and the $600 model which was the more ants up version that you got over there it's like a six dollar version or gaming Zed here was 10% faster than that GT X 1080 really any I actually really like the back pinions so $600 the six are no over yeah but at $600 I'm lieutenant get to that EVGA 1080 can be had for what maybe less than 500 500 ish if you want that specific one you might have to pay a little bit more but to get one that's in that can then either chips in the same clock speed or can be overclocked to the same clock speed easily around 500 years yeah 500 is fair to say okay so marginal return seems like the price performance of the of your r-tx 2070 s that you tested against those competitive competing cards was not wasn't wasn't the greatest bang for the buck what certainly wasn't the type of bang for the buck that we've seen with previous xx 7-0 skews from Nvidia is that fair to say yeah yeah I mean but the price being what it is way more sure the value the amount you get for your dollar goes down right the 970 in the 1070 those those were all like the great for the buck cards when that when they launched then they've always been the cards you get excited about sure and it's like so the room if you look it and I haven't looked at this recently but I'm pretty sure it's still the same most people would build gaming PC's or spending two to three hundred dollars in the graphics card I don't know if that's shifted much over the years that information might be a few years old but I think it's still roughly accurate so that you're talking like your rx5 80s and your GTX 10 sixties but the next step up if you can get to it and jump up from paying about 250 bucks to like 3 350 or 400 like to get to that 1070 was a really nice jump up in performance and you could still look at the performance compared to the price you're paying and say yeah you're still getting like an acquittal you know it's not like you're paying a bunch more for that added performance so right but now you can't say that because it's because the 20 70s cost 500 theoretically in dollars or 600 dollars and that's yeah I mean the the the cool things I guess if you want to say that about it are that there was a fair amount of overclocking Headroom the power draw on them was pretty reasonable too there was an actual decent drop off from the power job like the 2080 did you test it over more efficient did you test overclock and stock performance with you I tested the $500 one which and the $500 cards ship at the base frequencies abased the basin boost frequency the Nvidia requires and so all of the $500 cards will ship at that same base and boost frequencies that considered reference reference speeds yeah and I guess that's kind of considered your reference or your your entry level speeds sure so to speak and then there are there's the founders Edition which will ship overclocked which is $600 and then there's manufacturer overclocked versions that we will also have which we can assume are gonna cost maybe 552 I don't know probably still six hundred and maybe six hundred and fifty dollars as well until you start blurring the lines with the 2080 but yeah I mean the thing is for the cheapest ones for the $500 ones the question is how well does those will overclock because they're supposed to be a different and actual different skew on the GPU itself and that's what I haven't done yet is disassemble these cards and look at that and it's good my question is can we get a much people to test their $500 version of versions of the cards you can verify if they're like that - a version of the of the TU 106 right and and - are those all really bad at overclocking like are you actually getting a significantly worse card when you spend that 500 bucks rather than spending 600 bucks because overclocks crapoly or something I don't think that would be the case I think they'll still overclock just fine I think they're just doing that in order to segment the GPUs and so that there is a actual fixed 500 dollar set of cards that will sell for that amount that right that can't be sold for another amount which if you want to look silver lining that this at like the high prices they're charging because I think the prices are really high and they haven't made this competitive or an exciting product but if you have a like silver lining that could be looked at as something that they're doing to try to ensure that there are $500 cards available in bulk in the market that people can actually buy this card for that question can't be answered till probably tomorrow though tomorrow in the coming weeks leading up to the holidays right because that's when we'll be able to look at stock and look at Newegg and Amazon and wherever else and say yes it's in stock I can buy it right now that's what's gonna make the difference right now there's a bunch of skepticism right about that and that skepticism it's also been pointed it in video because NVIDIA has this weird requirement with these benchmarks or whatever these these initial benchmark review videos that anyone who's sampled cards has to be sampled that $500 version so it's like and all of this is like feels like sort of a weird bit of coordination they're doing I'd like to - and and like it's not even like it's that deceptive because it's like they're trying to make sure that if I've dollar card is therefore $500 that ships at a certain frequency that's commensurate with its price but the reason it feels like twisted and like they're trying to cannot shoehorn this in there I think it's just because of what they're doing with the founders addition and what they started doing with the founders addition with the ten series which was creating a founders addition that's like a higher-end card they wanted the Nvidia card to be like the nice expensive one not like the Nvidia reference designed to be the basic entry-level one and then all the third party Adam board manufacturers make their more special versions yeah but Nvidia deciding to take that route and say our cards are going to be like among the best available that have that cheap you suddenly like that takes so much away from the Adam board manufacturers and it leads and again it just it it leads to an awkward situation and a weird pricing thing where they try to say oh the entry-level price is this but and then then the cards are available for that price right um so we'll see how it turns out if the upshot I think ultimately is that you can buy a $500 RTX 2070 and that's what they want to sell it for and enough people see that it has a reasonable amount of value and that's why I think what a lot of them a lot of the benchmark reviews have shown today they've been skeptical because of the price but they've also shown that yeah it's it's right up there with the 1080 and you know it theoretically does have some extra bells and whistles that also we can't test it and verify but if you're gonna buy a 1080 for 500 bucks you might as well get to 20 70 sure if it's still available and I think I don't know I guess that's into the story okay we should probably and potentially with like driver optimizations in the future I mean maybe Turing has a bit further to go has a bit more to grow than then Pascal at this point whereas Pascal seemed it seems like it's it's days are numbered in terms of like driver optimizations and how much more performance can be gained with with future driver updates and and game development and stuff like that whereas touring maybe has a bit more potential in that area but that's great everyone should go watch Paul's video if you have the yet now it should be linked you know I was up till 2 a.m. last night Jesus you know worth it you know there's a smidge some good data mining in there alright moving on here AMD has listed the Radeon rx 580 on the Chinese market but now it has less stream processors then that then than before so what's what's going on here WC CF tech they've they've reported that an an tech was the first two who caught it on AMD China so this could be right now only in the Chinese market but it could potentially branch out to the European market the American market who knows left wait and see but this newly announced rx 580 is is its official name at least in China right now is the arts 582 zero for a SP which stands for 2048 stream processors that's the legitimate official name of this card first of all that's terrible marketing because who's gonna remember that but also it indicates that this GPU has significantly fewer stream processors than the original rx 580 yet it's still called the RX v AV in fact it has the exact same number of stream processors as an RX 570 it should really be called like that if any pause in our exercises why don't they because that's not a sexy paul they won't sell as many units and people won't think it's as powerful it's better to you know oversell and under-deliver is is the mantra that I'm getting from from this campaign here still the what this is this is in China though like this is Chinese market right now it has not crossed over to any other market as far as we know but we still care about our Chinese viewers don't mean anyone who lives in China yeah cuz they're billions of people there we also dual stream to Baidu no Chinese twitch oh no that's like Chinese Google oh Jenny yeah that's right so again something owned by $0.10 we probably and our show is probably banned in China well switch on YouTube are blocked in China so there you go so anyway anyway this is something to beware to be aware of if you're in the market for any graphics card right now it still has the original rx5 80s eight gigs of gddr5 memory on a 256 bit bus that's all fine and gravy but calling it an RX 570 is just plain misleading and I I would be shocked if gamers Nexus didn't release a video about this if they haven't already that I had just haven't noticed because this is very this is reeks the story reeks of the GT 1030 ddr4 model that that came out sort of recently that gamers X is also tour tour a new one into Nvidia over because that was also very misleading just this is just natural quickly normal shitty many times before no I used to play World of Warcraft on a gtx 260 core 216 which was the special 16 yes but that was actually and that actually made it better yeah 216 cuda cores i believe the original RX gtx 260 had like out of 92 and then opposite with the version that was a core 216 that gave you a little bit more but yeah if anyone's wondering what I'm doing with my hand down here I'm petting or are yous nervous cuz his mommy's not home yet so he's Janek had left against he only owns dogs as a cover so that when he masturbates on the stream why is he as a special never happened it's my only twice and my knowledge unconsciously one time okay so yeah I think this is this is like I don't think false advertising it's misleading it's very misleading and it should have been called something else rx5 70 Plus or rx 575 I don't care what you name it but not everyone's gonna know that an Rx 582 0 for 8 SP indicates that it has fewer stream processors and is going replicate rx 570 performance a lot closer than it will rx 580 I think yeah it's if you run benchmarks and and and the data shows that it's closer to a card that's of a different name it should be called the name should be closer to that name it shouldn't be called named after the card that it's further away from performance wise that's just common sense I do want to I do want to point out like this this is I agree this is a stupid thing for AMD to do they're doing something with rebranding or trying to I don't know if it's something for that market it would be interesting for to get some statement statement directly from them this is from Linus though he actually posted this on the Linus tech tips for him specifically about I just have to say well because he's talking about if it's happened before and he said the first time he got screwed over by AMD and although it was 80 at the point and at that point and I think this was when he was still working with NCIX and I loosey-goosey guidelines with respect to the branding of the GPUs was on a Radeon 9600 this appears to be a particularly egregious example of this behavior but this has been happening for years and likely will never stop I I am perfectly I agree with that statement that they're doing it because it works to some degree and and no amount of tech youtubers bickering about it is going to you know halt the number of sales that they get over these cards they do it because it works I mean people complain and they catch wind that people are complaining and it becomes a PR issue then it might be something they take into consideration next time they're like hey we have a bunch of like GPU dyes that you know we can't quite make into into our x5 ATS we what should we do with them and I go that's deciding how to name the product like they they could do it in a way that was a little less deceptive you know make a special version of the 570 if it does have something that makes it a little bit better than the 570 and then you know you're getting something better if you accidentally buy it versus something worse maybe if anyone from AMD is watching maybe that's something they should do but I don't know if anyone from Manatee watches this show perfectly alright I hope let's move on coolermaster this is an article from Hex's Coulomb esters launched their control pad via Kickstarter ah you had another brand in the PC space that has taken to crowdsourcing crowdfunding in order to potentially fund a a passion project and this is definitely a passion project what this is is a analog controller mainly for your for your left hand or I guess could be for your right hand but it's got the WASD there it's a 24 key set it's got urge B of course but the big point here is that it's analog so this is great very this very much is reminiscent of the the routine one the booting one which was the first one of the first if not the first analog mechanical keyboards on the market so you know most mechanical keyboards these days are digital whereas you know when you press the keyboard down it's a 1 or a 0 it's on or off there's no gradient it is all or nothing so to speak and so that can make it very difficult if you're trying to play a game and you're looking for granular control they used I really like the fact that they use Supercop for this demo because it perfectly demonstrates how analog control can be very useful because as you move about in the game know the amount of speed that you use in the game matter how fast you or you know depending on how fast you move in the game it determines how much time goes by and you can move really slow by pressing the key just a little yeah and so like if you wanted to move very slow to give you that sort of edge on a regular digital you know mechanical keyboard you would have to just tap it oh you know they leave left and right and stuff until you actually got that you know to get that sort of incremental stepping but with this little device here you can just sort of like press the key down slightly and you know depending on how far down your travel is that determines the amount of response in game so it's a neat little demo that I think proves very effective why there might be an interest in a product like this and the number are definitely indicative of that this is already raised over $1000 she said dick that's a dick I told you there's gonna be foul language on this show how'd you kids hide your wife there is it's already been met it's fifty thousand dollar goal which is pretty reasonable I think for a product like this has already been smashed what last night checked earlier today was a 56k that's not too bad so we have 39 days to go so I could see this either doubling or even tripling its goal this you know if all goes smoothly it definitely seems like this is a product that people are in demand of currently at fifty six thousand three hundred ninety one yeah almost seven her backers forty days ago there's smooth sailing here so I think it's a cool little little gadget I personally don't have time to play games enough to be like yes I need this in my life but I could definitely see a bunch of hardcore gamers you know or gamers that are more dedicated than I am to the game be very interested in something like this I don't have time for your games either cap oh well see you know well you weren't so busy making all these awesome play on words and puns maybe you would bomb maybe if you just listen from time to time I'm talking Jesus Christ we talked about this later all right moving on we've got an article from video cards calm this is in regards to an RX 590 that was spotted not a mark on the 3d mark database so sometimes people run benchmarks on 3d mark and they forget to disconnect their internet and so the scores get automatically uploaded to the database and the chooses for every everyone to see everyone to see this just says generic VGA though it does say generic VGA maybe not not much is known about the RX 590 right now there are many rumors and very little information very little hard to concrete evidence but right now many people believe that the rx 590 is going to feature the polaris architecture which makes sense except on the 12 nanometer fabrication node which would improve the performance and the power efficiency of over the RX 580 or the RX 4 80 for example but you could imagine that this is still a long way off from thing of the Turing architecture probably wouldn't compete in that high-end space maybe with a you know an Rx 20 60 or something like those me a Polaris refresh so there's no change to the 2000 megahertz memory clock and it's likely still gddr5 based rumors are estimating that there was going to be about a 10 performance per for 10 percent performance improvement over the RX 4 80 compared to the RX 5 90s graphics core of 47:59 anyone in chat who's saying the stream is dead the stream is not dead you're dead stream you're dead haha although you probably can't see this if you think yours if yours never mind this is a message to no one video cards is factory overclocked rx 580 power color red devil that they tested scored 43 hundred and ninety three points are sorry forty three hundred and ninety nine points in the graphics score and forty six hundred and thirty nine while overclocked whereas this rx 590 is showing a graphic score of slightly over that of 47:59 about 10 percent faster so um rx 590 this could be legit this could be fake we don't know but rumors are speculating that in RX 5 85 90 is imminent so there has been a lot of a lot of scuttlebutt a lot of scuttlebutt many scuttlebutt Ella scuttlebutt in the house uh here whimpering is everything ok yeah he's just Hiromi let me see if he needs to go out or something maybe he's gonna are you you can talk about them this right I will talk about this the out of that story because there's cover here so motherboard recently released an article that talks about the Pentagon and how its weapon systems are very very easily hacked with basic tools this is actually a terrifying read as I went about it I just got more and more paranoid that something terrible's gonna happen because of just how incompetent the Pentagon is at and and how unaware they are of cyber cyberattacks a cybersecurity it seems like a non-issue to them it's like nothing something that they even think about and a lot of their weapon systems are connected to the Internet in same in many ways one of their one of their like an f-35 is pilot helmet just the pilot's helmet just the helmet alone connects to a complicated data feed from various outside systems that can be easily act with very basic methods you don't even need to be like a good hacker to hack these guys I shouldn't be even sharing this with you guys the the Government Accountability Office the GAO found mission-critical cyber vulnerabilities in nearly all weapon systems that were under development this is insane much of the Pentagon's weapon systems alright I already said that is connecting the Internet the GAO reports suggest that pentagon has done a terrible job of accounting for these vulnerabilities the Pentagon didn't even change the default passwords on multiple weapon systems using commercial or open source software so something using they have weapon systems that you know they got off of github hypothetically let's end no no just said open-source that's the first place by mined way but they didn't change the default password they're treating cutting-edge military tech like a lazy person treats the router let's just use the default tube is actually jacked right now oh well that's YouTube's fault if you can't see the stream we absolve all responsibility it says we're still streaming to it yeah exploit never lies if it says good nope nothing I'm gonna assume that YouTube is having a problem restreaming or rebroadcasting and that it's still actually yeah I'm the worse still streaming to YouTube everyone make sure to click that I add face I believe everyone has to believe along with us though that that's actually what's happening is this dinner scene and hook yes believe it's the power of positive thinking Kyle but leave Peter it's I tell you so this is it just gets worse it just gets worse here one test report indicated that the test team was able to guess they were able to guess and administer an administrator password in nine seconds like probably like the name of their dog with the number one like that was one of the passwords to like fire nuclear warhead missiles or something so that's insane it's been shockingly easy from the GAO steam to hack into the Pentagon's weapon systems and take complete control the lead author of the report Christine Chaplin or Christina Chaplin said in one case it took a two-person test team just one hour to gain initial access to a weapon system and one day to gain full control of the system they were testing another team easily took control of the operators terminal for an unspecified weapon system and watched in real-time as the operators responded to the hackers disruptions another test team reported that they caused a popup message to appear on the user's terminals instructing them to insert two quarters to continue operation like it's a freaking arcade game so they're just totally trolling they're able to like do these like little hacks and actually take full control and completely throw off the Pentagon systems with very little effort multiple testings reported that they were able to copy change or delete system data including one team that downloaded 100 gigabytes if you just like reason just watch a youtube video on how to hack you can get like a hundred gigabytes of data from from the Pentagon right now the GAO has been warning the the Pentagon about these backdoors in their weapon systems for years dated back to nineteen nineteen ninety seven but very little action has been taken on behalf of the Pentagon to fix these issues Chaplin said the people look at weapons and they think that they're automatically very different than their own home computers or their business networks and and and they're not there's there's a lot in common there's large Venn diagram there's a big portion the center there she said it she concluded by saying it looks very grim unless they see this as a wake-up call so maybe we should have saved this for like an ode Joy segment because I like that fit yeah this is very very like is there any what can what can we do to help we we can move all right we can move to a different country Paul as always a good solution so there's there's a happy ending to all that just leave America immediately war defenders let's let's move on to a slightly less roots and goodness less heavy and daunting story that's which will conclude tech news for today at least on my half the Nintendo 64 classic the console has has leaked some pictures on the web are they legit what are we doing now is this a new thing we're trying to forget about particular and based on the amounts of competence this is an article from overclocked 3d net games three images of the rumored n64 classic have leaked and it shows the same controller ports that we've seen on the NES and SNES classic seems legit so far and a similar port cover if you scroll down there might be some more pictures a similar port cover that we've also seen on the NES NES classic mini although that's CC like these are faux these are fake port ports and it comes out to actually insert the real controllers because it's an emulator and stuff but people are saying that that's coming out too far it's a lot further that comes out a lot further in this picture than the SNES classic so people are speculating that that's that's why it's fake it must be fake in that sense because that's way too flimsy that's way too flimsy it's a design flaw and it's too flimsy and fragile to be legit these must be fake but I tell you that makes sense that there have been existing there's there's been several design flaws or just design quirks with the the last the existing classic consoles for example the controller cables for the SNES and and the NES classic consoles we're just way too short way too short and that I feel like that's something else that if you saw the picture a leaked image of like a controller and it was like you know a 3 or 4 foot cable a lot of people would say well it's got to be fake because that cables way too short for like Nintendo wouldn't actually come to market with with such a design flaw but no never underestimate the I don't know poor engineering of Nintendo I don't know where what what I can be checked that could be chalked up to but at any rate we don't know if this is legit or not that's that's the whole point one thing is for sure though the n64 classic if it is gonna come is gonna require quite a bit more hardware and processing power than its predecessors simply because the graphics on n64 titles is just completely different that's true League it's a completely different league than those a you know 8-bit or 16-bit two-dimensional games so how many bits to the Nintendo 64 have 64 I would imagine maybe maybe 63 that's correct you know what's coming on that was like you know tech question pressure the pressure is on so it's it's definitely gonna be a challenge to create this classic console and a lot of people are saying that this is where it ends for for the standalone consoles emulators for the classic series there's no way that Nintendo could make a GameCube emulator because it would just be too because they're cowards because they're bitches yeah we're calling you I didn't Tendo because we secretly one and then we they were real if they were a real game company they would do it but yeah they're a bunch of wusses X Xbox and is you know the PlayStation the Sony and Microsoft they're gonna come up with emulators for their ps4 we're we on now ps4 five I'm not a console pleb Catiline photo cat that's why I'm asking because I have no idea yes before I believe okay so it's I just I just wanna update the viewers at home who are watching on twitch updating twitch the strong good live streaming service which is still working right now yes according to xsplit we are still streaming to YouTube with zero drop frames sorry the dog some noise brief moment here okay we're coming back looking back look at beat later wow they were really they were very freaked out about that okay sorry about that guys ain't your wife Jesus I turn I turn the volume down to spare your ears from the barking ducks okay so be on the lookout for the real n64 classic when when it may surface looking forward to it that the sponsor spot spot on spot thank you very much to Toshiba for sponsoring this episode of hardware why it is we have we have some SSDs to talk about if you will make some amazing with us SSD very we're professionals this is the RC 100 it is an MD to take us deep take a much smaller SSD it's it's a mini we fill this one off for several times now it's using their BICS fix I like to call it fix their big flash NAND flash which is their own in-house memory which is you know gets it gets very good very good speeds maybe not like cream with a crop top of the line but you're not paying top-of-the-line price for this the price of performance is superior to most drives that you find on the market and it's it's enough it's more than that for the vast majority of users unless you're doing some really heavy you know you know something that really needs a crazy reads and writes these are these are these are plenty what do you have there Paul I have the OCZ TR 200 it's a great one - which is totally not just an empty box is the SSDs in here you have physical products here but this is a 2.5 inch SSD also uses BICS flash memory - over here they also have an external SSD all those are links in the video's description right yeah sure well be they sure will be very soon so click on those links do and check out these fine SSD products from Toshiba yep and take it to a cheaper for sponsoring gossip right we love you this one I think you're gonna take it out of the box oh I actually wasn't sure if you had one in there it is it's in here yeah this is this is tiny so small 22 by 42 22 42 or 42 yeah so much much shorter than your typical MDOT - it's part of me like for an 80 gig little SSD thank you and it's like twelve hundred megabytes per second reads and 1202 megabytes per second write something in that range does broke me at that as we advertise this product buddy songs but yeah yeah it's it's over it's over a thousand both breeds mates okay more than enough I've got hot and heavy hardware oh good but not just any hot and heavy hardware Paul this is the smartphone edition hold on I can do this because people were just talking on stop about smartphones earlier this week they worked and it was you can't go ignored maybe ignored what we have to we have to at least mention some of these hard-hitting flagships that that were recently revealed so starting with the pixel three in the pixel 3 X tau from Google of course this articles from hot hardware and that's it's a good source for hot and heavy hardware segment you you're damn right it is that's I was totally thinking about that when I picked this article this this is a very long review a very thorough and good review you should all read it thoroughly but I am just gonna do the TLDR here because I did what a lot of people do and just scroll to the very last page and basically they're they're recommending it it got it's hot and hardware I put it on eternal sir so this is recommended this is what's going on with YouTube right now by the way ooh like it an embedded I believe this would have been an embedded video yeah yeah YouTube is taken having some issues right now cube should know more very curious what this video turns out to be because it still says we're streaming live to YouTube with zero drop frame something's ridiculous rest in peace YouTube and twitch master race I think is a lesson to be learned here so the specs what what hot hardware found about this these phones is the specs are not the most impressive compared to their other competitors flexions it only has four gigs of ram for example no expandable local storage and only a 12.2 megapixel camera on the rear but but the experience the user experience has been proven to be fantastic it's got excellent battery life highly competitive and one of the best smartphone cameras on the market bar none I thought just use the camera from the pixel - that would still be the one of the best cameras on the market yeah Bar None that is an amazing camera it still has the same snapdragon or it has the same Snapdragon 805 processor that a lot of other flagships have so I guess it's equal on that front and it's got the added benefit of having a clean Android installations that'll get updated before virtually every other smartphone because you are rocking vanilla Android here people no no shitty UI the nano overlay what is that that is an egg I oh it's a duck okay it's a charging okay it's got it back like a Qi charger and you're just seeing ducks with the back okay so the build quality is top-notch also has a note it also has a topknot and the Google pixel 3 if you want to know prices $7.99 for the non Excel and $8.99 for the Excel 64 gigs these are for the 64 gig models this is the price and Excel has a not just an on exhale does not I am NOT a fan of the knotch I will say maybe it's something that I would get used to if I had a phone with a knotch but I personally despise it and I would much rather have no knotch I don't care if I get a couple millimeters more space I just think it looks weird ok and the any opinions on the neck ah not to not you're not - not if I had the option one way or another I would go no Dutch it's cuz you're smart Paul it is you've always been smart very smart thank you with your smartness so guys fire off in chat notch or no not CH let's let's blow it up I want to start a civil war in here moving on though while you guys debate about that who way cool way is that annoying Cranston right qua way hallway my way Wow mate 20 Pro they're releasing their mate 20 Pro which is aimed to go after the big dogs like Samsung Google and Apple this is article for TechCrunch and they go to make 20 pro I have no idea what the hell's going on TechCrunch the may 20 Pro has difficulty some impressive specs here a cure in 980 processor 6 gigs of RAM that's more than the pixel 3 a 6.4 inch curved OLED screen at 31 20 by 1440 resolution 3 rear cameras 3 rear cameras it's got an 8 megapixel telephoto camera and a 40 mega pixel wide angle and I think a 16 megapixel or a 20 megapixel ultra lens lens it's got an onscreen fingerprint sensor with facial recognition you also get a 4200 milliamp battery with wireless charger this is a six second gifts that's looping okay so I was like wow it sold really was a lot of sense why they keep showing the camera over and over again so I think the coolest thing about this phone is that well 3d live object so you can do 3d live object short that's probably not very useful but it can wirelessly charge pairs damn you so can a bunch of flagships but you can wirelessly charge other flagship phones or other phones that support wireless charging so if we what yeah you can put your friend's phone on your phone and charge your friend's phone with your phone that's a horrible feature why would you want to waste your battery charging someone else's battery maybe your friend has 2% and you have 100% he's going off on a trip on his own and you know he's about to leave you and take his looper right there and he needs his phone to get him home for some reason and you you can you can do that wirelessly by just making your phones bump uglies and shouldn't be friends with someone that ears maybe that's why it's called the mate you know your phone mates with another phone and jizzes it some of its juice into into its partner know that's kind of romantic yeah turn you around eventually so I mean you know another fight there's another fight that you guys can embark in on in the chat is this a cool feature is a gimmicky have you ever have you ever wished that your phone could charge another phone so you know some people carry two phones sometimes they I've done that before our friend Steve a Memphis Steve carries two phones they have two numbers and stuff yeah I'm sure sometimes he's like man if only this phone was way more charged in this phone and there's some way to make them mate you gotta have safe phone gotta have a safe oh so there there you go and then the last phone we're talking about for hot and heavy hardware is the razor phone too not the razor phone T oh oh but the razor phone too number two this is the successor to the original razor phone this is an article from hexxus once again for some reason this YouTube video won't play oh wow how shocking that in cubes not working right now well will rely on the stills yes JPEGs for the wind this retains the the razor phone to retains the overall look of the original you may not even notice the difference at first glance but it makes some refinements nearly everywhere else which is a good thing because there were a lot of problems with the original RAZR phone they've smoothed out and rounded the edges so it's a bit more comfortable in your hand there's also a Razer logo on the back of the phone that you can see there that is Razer chroma enabled RGB sixteen point eight million colors or as I like to say the eight colors really interested in this couples back story like they look really really cool I'm not interested in the middle don't they look cool though nope there let me guess they're there streamers there's twitch partners because they both have dyed hair that's how you know if you're a twitch streamer if some interest you are that what switch yeah you gotta have like on with some funky like like unorthodox colored hair we are streaming to twitch partners oh that's true that is that is that is the difference between us but we could know now because YouTube is dead so obviously we should should look into that since can we be partners YouTube switch anytime YouTube funny is like there's still so many people in twitch chat telling us that YouTube is dead I know YouTube is we get it guys we reach it once in a while you know us so at any rate there's there's a lot going on here you've got louder and better speakers it's got Dolby Atmos which i think is hilarious cuz it's that's not really it'll be at most you've got a 5.7 inch izg o screen that keeps the 120 Hertz refresh rate that we saw in last gen model we've got it includes a 24-bit USB C DAC which is kind of cool if you're an audiophile or something like that I'm now displays up to 50% brighter images than before with the wider color gamut it's certified for it's actually officially certified for Netflix HD are one of the few phones that that is Gorilla Glass 5 anti fingerprint coating it's eight point five millimeters thin Snapdragon 84 v same same CPU as the at the Google pixel and it's also got an audrina of 630 GPU which isn't that crazy but probably plenty for a phone the vapor chamber cooling similar - what they use and their their laptops to reduce thermal throttling eight gigs of RAM 64 gigs ufs storage a sim Ana microSD slot I like the SD slot up to one terabyte that's nice I do like that that is awesome four thousand milliamp light boat or lithium polymer battery for 10 hours at 120 Hertz refresh rate screen time improved rear dual camera with 12 megapixels wide-angle lens with optimal image stabilization Razer has obviously optimized this phone for game for games for games they've worked hand-in-hand they've worked with game developers on titles like pub Jean mobile and a bunch of other stuff so that maybe it'll stand out in the gaming community as the phone of choice for for hardcore gamers you can also stream with the the front-facing camera that's kind of cool which isn't a megapixel camera $7.99 comes in mirror black and stained finishes pre-order today thoughts on the reason phone Paul any thoughts you're not supposed to recommend pre-ordering anything okay you have the option to pre-order today but you should not click to myself would you ever consider buying a phone like this does this appeal to you in any way mmm no not particularly Emily because of the I mean it's it's a gaming phone alright there's some some aspects of it like the high refresh rate thing I guess this is kind of interesting but it's marketed as a gaming phone I just I never play games on my phone I drink I not interested in it yeah if I if I want to play game I want it to be like some a monitor or a TV like I just I just don't like yeah I only play like it plants vs. zombies and 120 Hertz isn't gonna do and a game like that yeah like I have like a puzzle game that I in in the most desperate of times when I'm super bored at an airport and I have nothing to do British no internet connection yeah reason that I might play and yeah ya know I'm kind of with you there but if you are a hardcore mobile gamer this this ticks a lot of boxes so and $7.99 it's pretty cheap for Razer for Razer product it is I don't know when you consider that the the Google pixel not even the pixel 3 not even the XL is $7.99 right yeah same price as the no I'm sorry yeah yeah same price as the pixel 3 non XL that's that's that's a lot cheaper than I thought it would be think like thinking razor I would be like alright $8.99 a thousand bucks but they what they know that they don't have a strong foothold in the phone market yeah they've made too many phones yet they haven't made too many phones they don't have that reputation like like Google or Apple does so of course they they gotta stay competitive with the pricing you guys let us know what you think we'll be sure to not read in chat let's move on to nothing because that's the end of my cereal my half yeah yeah thanks everyone for being here timestamps stand below that be awesome love ya and don't go anywhere because we're about to stream the second half of this beautiful show on his channel which can be found on a link in the description below maybe you're just the state right yeah yeah maybe Kisuke nation like now honestly YouTube is really really bad right now I don't even know if what we're streaming right now is still being picked up by YouTube just go to twitch so go to twitch.tv slash awesome hardware if your twitch haters just deal with it we'll see if I can go if not we'll just do an after party on Twitch and wrap things that'll be that I don't have anything important to talk about anyways oh I'm sure the sandal okay thanks for watching guys
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