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Building an EXTREME PC in the Thermaltake View 37!

2018-03-24
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that Thermaltake is kind of focusing on two main components for this case the first one being water cooling there's a ton of support which we'll talk about in just a moment and to just the ability to look inside of your system and appreciate all of the innards that's why we have this ginormous acrylic panel that sort of spans the the left side and top side of the case which we'll talk about more in a moment but the plan for today is to briefly talk about the exterior of the case then we'll work our way inside with the internal layout we'll do a quick time lapse build I'll briefly talk about my experience with that and then we'll finish things off with a quick thermal test with the front panel on and off to sort of gauge the delta between temperatures for primarily our CPU and GPU so starting at the outside of the case we have a really solid construction it's a steel frame it seems very well built and we also have acrylic kind of on the front and on the side here starting with the front side it's pretty much just flat acrylic and it looks really nice it could probably pass for tempered glass if it weren't for the little micro scratches I've been very careful with this case ever since I unboxed it a few hours ago and still it seems there's there seems to be freaking scratches all over it somehow so that's one thing that you have to bear in mind with acrylic if you're not ok with little scratches on the outside of your case then maybe this is the one for you but apart from that it does seem well-built there's no imperfections in the actual acrylic it's it's very smooth looking there's no weird warps or anything like that the front panel is also to me it seems a little bit starved for airflow which is another reason why I want to test thermals at the end of this video you do get ventilation on either side here with some nice mesh if you wanted to dust that off once it gets all masked you can just pop the front panel off and use some compressed air or whatnot but the ventilation here seems somewhat limited just because the fans that are pre-installed here are mounted on the outside of the steel frame and the blades are resting up pretty close against that front acrylic panel which makes me wonder if it's being if those fans are being starved for airflow so we're gonna take a closer look at that later because I just don't know if this is gonna cut it at the very front at the top of the case you get your front panel connectors including a nice big power button a small and discreet reset button which I like two USB 2.0 and two USB 3.0 ports your mic and headphone jacks as well all very accessible right there in the middle of your case additionally you have this giant panel this is sort of where it gets its view name I would imagine because you have this single piece of acrylic that sort of spans the the entire left side and the top of your case kind of has this nice curve right here giving a 90-degree Bend and it allows you to just look inside of your case from either angle either from the side or from the top view which is which is pretty cool the downside here is for one that the way they have this actually installed they have two thumb screws one big one at the bottom one big one at the top but then there's also this plastic plate at the back that has four additional screws which are just more you know conventional like power supply screws with Philips head threads on them so you pretty much have to do undo six screws if you want to get the side panel off which i think is a little overkill if you're gonna be using this as a daily and you're not moving it around much then I would probably just remove this plastic panel and just keep the two big thumb screws on there that should suffice in keeping the panel in place I mean it's it's it's acrylic after all a nut glass it's not very heavy at all despite the way it looks additionally since this is just all acrylic at the top here there's no place to mount any fans or radiators so that begs the question where's the exhaust taking place in this case if not for just this single 140 later fan and to where are you mounting additional fans and radiators for all of that water cooling support I just mentioned for starters you do have a couple mounting options at the front of the case you can do up to a three hundred and sixty millimeter rad you can also mount a couple one one forty s so if you want to do a two eighty millimeter radiator you could do that there's also options for two two hundred millimeter fans which looks very nice I did see a demo of that at the thermaltake suite at the at CES this year so you have plenty of mounting options at the front there and once we take a look at the inside of the case I'll show you the additional radiator and fan mounting areas take a look at the back of the case you kind of see what I mean here with the two large thumb screws and the four little screws with the plastic bracket holding that giant acrylic panel in place and then we've also got our 140 millimeter rear exhaust fan here on flexible mounting strips looks like you can also mount a 120 here and lower or raise that as you see fit here's a cutout for your IO shield for the motherboard you get one two three four five six seven eight expansion slots and traditional horizontal setup and you have two more that are vertical if you want to mount a up to a 2.5 slot card vertically in this case you could do that it does come with the metal bracket but it does not include a riser cable so that you'll have to purchase that separately unfortunately this is all held in place with thumb screws that goes for all these expansion slots as well some to bear in mind with most vertical GPU mounts in the case like this is that you might sacrifice some thermal performance if you're cooler especially with just a simple air cooler is brushing up against the side panel here then it probably will be a little bit starved for airflow you've also got a power supply cut out here no removable bracket just a simple cutout you can feel some rubber pads in here for reduced noise and vibration there is a dust filter for your power supply it is removable from the rear of your case pulls out just like that it's fairly long which indicates that we might have a fan mounting point at the bottom of our case which we'll take a closer look at in just a moment but very easy to remove and replace just to give it a quick dusting to make sure that everything is properly ventilated and I'm at a funny angle right now so I just just get a moment ere we go and then lastly at the back here we have two captive thumb screws for our right side panel I should mention that the other thumb screws for the large acrylic panel are not captive that would have been nice to see all right so let's pop off this acrylic panel here and take a closer look inside the case so once you have all the screws and the plastic bracket removed popping it off is pretty simple kind of just push it push it back and then you lift like so ah see single giant piece of acrylic that will surely get scratched under any conditions so be very careful so here we are inside the case couple things to note right off the bat we can support up to e-atx ports in here plenty of space for that and all the way down to mini ITX if that's something you want to do the first thing I notice that is that there's plenty of cutouts for cables you get to at the top here six on the right which minds you these three right here on the inside are probably gonna be covered up with it a traditional ATX motherboard we've also got two more cutouts down here for your front panel connectors and things like that only the the the grommets are only the the cutouts on the right of the motherboard are grommeted however I would have liked to see these to at least be grommeted especially with the acrylic top panel that you can see through from that angle I mean there's no radiator or fans to cover up these two holes so I felt at the very least given the design of the case that Thermaltake would have provided some grommets at the top here just for an overall cleaner look so that's a bit of a bummer but what can you do also there's one two looks like there's about six pre-installed standoffs which is kind of weird if you wanted to install an ATX board you'd still have to install three standoffs right here so they kind of did half the job for you interesting and then here's your vertical bracket for a GPU easily removable with with a couple screws here we also have a look at our bottom area where we can see now very much more clearly without any reflection that this does not have a power supply basement which is going to be an issue for some people because that's such a common thing to see in in lots of cases these days but at the same time it might just work out well the design design language of this case the whole idea here is that you want to be able to see every component in your rig and you want to show it off in its entirety especially you know if you're gonna go with a thermal take power supply with like an RGB fan on it and stuff and you'll you're not gonna want to hide that out but again it's gonna be a deal breaker for some people or not very desirable for others so something to bear in mind oh I almost forgot to come back to this it does look like we have a couple mounting areas for either a pair of one 20s or one 40s from the looks of it at the bottom of our case here you can even slide one of those fans underneath the drive cage or your graphics card of course that also explains why our power supply dust filter is so long we had a hard drive cage that can support three two and a half inch or three and a half inch drives they are toolless and removable so you kind of just pinch the sides here to pull it out I shouldn't say completely tool is because you do stop to screw this the drive in with physical screws and whatnot but they're made of plastic they're not the most durable looking they look kind of cheap but they actually feel a bit sturdier than they look so I guess that's not an issue I wouldn't imagine that these are gonna break on you anytime soon or anything like that so there's three of those there's more drive mounting options at the back of the case behind the motherboard tray which we'll take a look at later it also looks like this cage is removable in fact it would have to be if you wanted to mount any fans or radiators to the other radiator mounting spot that I was alluding to earlier which is to the right of the motherboard right here you can do up to a three hundred and sixty millimeter radiator or triple 120 fans now as you might have guessed since we do have a radiator mounting position right here there is ample ventilation on the backside panel which I didn't show you guys earlier ton of ventilation slots with a magnetic dust filter that's easily removable you do have to take the side panel off in order to remove it but it seems to be a proper way to exhaust any hot air coming out of that radiator or fans whichever you choose to put there so from what I can tell so far and judging from the showpieces that Thermaltake had of this case at their CES suite this year is that this is gonna be a really popular spot for a radiator most people are probably gonna want to show off their rad fans if they're RGB and stuffed and looks all nice and pretty to be acrylic they're gonna want a mountain radiator right here which means they're gonna be relying on these intake fans to sort of deliver healthy airflow to the radiator otherwise their CPU temperatures could likely suffer the question that we'll answer later today is are these front intake fans being choked too hard in order to provide that airflow efficiently so we'll take a look at that later on and how that affects GPU temperatures as well and that sort of thing but for now let's pop off the right side panel here and take a look behind the motherboard so taking a look at the back of the case here we have plenty of room for cable management it seems like we actually have about an inch maybe an inch and a quarter of room between the motherboard tray itself and the side panel so lots of room for wiring you also notice that we have one two three four removable trays that are held in place by a single thumb screw each of these trays can house either a single three and a half inch mechanical hard drive or two two and a half inch drive so you can do eight SSDs back here or four mechanical drives which is pretty sweet however bear in mind that if you're mounting a radiator or a fan in this area right here against the motherboard tray then populating these trays with drives might not be the best idea because that'll probably block a lot of the exhaust coming off of that cooling solution so bear that in mind and even if you do populate the rest of the trays there's still plenty of cable cable routing area right here in the middle of the case lots of tie-down points again just a lot of clearance between the tray and the side panel so cable management looks pretty good it looks pretty promising in a case that doesn't even have a power supply basement where you can just kind of shove all that stuff down there but of course we'll verify all that once we do the build momentarily now before we dive into the build I wanted to quickly talk about the lighting accessories that come included with this case for starters we have two lighting controllers this one right here is say the power thank God it's not molex you've got a couple connectors actually three connectors for your RGB ring fans and some LED ins and outs you've got connecting points if you wanted to wire this up to your motherboard it does support Asus MSI and gigabyte so that you can interface with their RGB software so you can have the lighting on your fans match the lighting on your motherboard on your GPU and so forth or you can just simply leave it hooked up to the controller and you've got different for fan speed lighting mode color mode and light speed this does not make your computer run at light speed rather it controls the speed of various lighting effects and then you've also got another controller here in the form of a PCI expansion bracket which is actually pretty cool has all the same buttons that this one does except you can access it from the outside of your case you don't have to store it inside you do have to fish around back there if you want to reach the buttons but it's kind of nice that thermal takes giving you several options for connecting and controlling your lighting so on that note folks let's go ahead and dive into a quick little time-lapse and then we'll circle back talk about how it all went before doing some thermal testing all righty the build is done and it is lit literally literally lit okay I'll just stop trying but it looks good it looks really good it looks a lot nicer than I thought it would be honest you know what works here is it since this that the top panel is acrylic it allows just the lighting in your environment to shine through the top of your build and sort of just kind of create a nice natural lighting environment for your components whereas you know traditionally you only have a side panel and you're getting sort of light at a weird angle you know if you've got like lights in the ceiling and stuff like that there's a lot of shadows and and doesn't look as properly lit as it does in this case so that's that's really nice but this is also not very good for being on camera because of reflections and stuff so I'm actually gonna remove the panel before I continue on with how the build went for me so give me a sec I guess I'll just start in sort of the order that I installed things with the motherboard very straightforward pretty simple process I did have to install those three thumb screws that Thermaltake gypped me on they also didn't or maybe I just didn't see it but I did not find a Phillips head to hex adapter to install the three standoffs which was kind of frustrating so I just ended up tightening them with with a little wrench that I had I have the adapter as well but I just used the wrench because it was nearby but that's weird I think that should be included if you're not gonna pre install all of the standoffs the drive cage obviously had to get removed there were a couple thumb screws as I thought that we're located behind the motherboard tray very easy to remove just standard Phillips head screws pop the drive cage out as well as the platform there were two screws at the bottom of the case so I had to play it on the side to get that platform out and that was no problem the mounting situation for a radiator if you're gonna mount one right here there is like flexible mounting strips but they're very short strips so there's not a lot of play where you can put the radiator you can either put it like smack-dab in the middle at least for a 240 rad like you see here smack-dab in the middle or way up top but then you're kind of blocking this this cutout at least with the the fractal or that I have here the Celsius s 24 since it's got you know your tubing you're mounting it at the very top wasn't ideal because you I was then covering this cutout and it was like interfering with the cables or you can put it way down at the bottom but then you know the tubing kind of goes over the the GPU and it doesn't look all that graceful so middle mount seem to be the best option for me especially since it's pretty close to these front intake fans here which you can't really get a good look at here maybe I'll throw some b-roll in for you the other thing is that the motherboard tray is actually covering up a lot of the the radiator grille behind it so it doesn't look like a whole lot of air is being exhausted I mean granted some certainly is but I feel like it could just be a little bit more open the other thing that I'll mention is that our graphics card here is a gtx 1080i from EVGA this is the for the win 3 I believe and it's a pretty lengthy card I think it's like around 11 inches maybe I'll put it somewhere in the video but that's about as long as I would go if you're planning to install a radiator where I have because otherwise you run into clearance issues so you want to bear that in mind routing out with cable management it was actually a pretty awesome experience in this case surprisingly I'm so spoiled I feel with power supply basements now just shoving everything in there that I was like oh I wonder how this is gonna go this is more of a you know an old-school way to route cables just behind your motherboard tray it was actually plenty of room back there like I mentioned over an inch between the motherboard tray in that right side panel so tie-down points where all we're all very smartly placed so I used three or four of those and just so much room to spare granted I didn't mind any drives back here the only drive I installed maybe saw in the time-lapse was an end up to SSD straight onto the motherboard so I don't have to fiddle with that but I feeI figure Drive installation in this case is gonna be pretty straightforward nothing really new or uncharted there so altogether I mean the cabling looks great the case looks great everything put together I did install the LED controller obviously to hook up our three ring fans and there are a couple different lighting modes and and other cool things that it can do so let me show you that really quick okay so we're running the system full throttle at the moment it's under a stress test combination of Unigine heaven' 4.0 and a 264 so that we were taxing the CPU and the GPU simultaneously it's been running for about 20 minutes on this stress test without the front panel so just bear front fans these fans are at a fixed RPM so they won't be fluctuating rpm based on you know the temperature changes and things like that so there's no variation from test to test and our temperatures on both processors have pretty much maxed out at this point it's been about 10 minutes or so since I've seen them get increasingly hot so right now our packages at a maximum of 78 degrees Celsius is the hottest that got on our 7900 X and it's actually right now it's it's hovering around the 70 degree mark you know give or take a few degrees so it's actually not too bad at all then on our GPU we're maxing out at 63 degrees Celsius with you know it's sort of fluctuating based on the scenes that are in Unigine Heaven 4.0 what is happening right now but it's mainly I don't know what this is I don't I honestly don't know what's happening right now ignoring this we're getting 78 C max on the package for the CPU and 63 degrees Celsius on our GPU this must be a Windows Update roll sabotage stupid Windows 10 update assistant so what we're going to do now is pop on the front panel and wait another 10 to 20 minutes before rechecking the temps and seeing how much hotter it gets all right so we're about 20 minutes later into our stress test here now with the front panel fastened and secured and you know what we're actually in pretty good shape we only went up three degrees on our CPU going from 78 to 81 degrees C which is a lot better than I expected to be honest it looks so closed off on the front here but the numbers are proving otherwise and maybe that's just how I've configured the radiator and fans to be right next to the intake fans so whatever fresh air is being pulled in is going straight through the radiator fins and it's it's doing a great job and that goes double for the GPU we've only went up one degree Celsius going from 63 to 64 so altogether guys it's looking it's like if like thermals in this case aren't really an issue at the front end good stuff all around good you up there we'll take and we can close out this video hey I'm just gonna end it right here guys I'm not gonna go back to the egg-cam where Lissette looks all nice and stuff because it's late and wifey sauce is waiting on me but i just wanted to say that two thumbs up for this case the price is a little steep granted but if you're gonna want some blingy fans that perform well and are very quiet mind you anyway then I mean it's 90 bucks worth of fans here so I guess you just kind of decide for yourself if it's worth it in that sense water cooling supports great I would've liked to see type-c on the front panel for a hundred and seventy dollar case but what can you do and the thermals seem to be just fine so yeah and it's quiet it's really quiet especially because you know the ventilation is on the right side of the case so especially if we gonna be putting this to the right side of your desk then you'll probably hear it a lot less than a traditional chassis that has its exhaust on the top you know what I mean because it'll it literally be further away from you and there will be a whole computer tower in between you and the exhaust noise that makes sense so I don't know guys let me one let me know what you think I'm pretty impressed with it to be honest and I love to hear what you have to say down in the comments below let me know if you like this video in general toss a like on it if you did helps a lot and subscribe to the channel for more tech stuff color that you're really soon you can also check me out on float play if you want to watch all my content two week early without ads I'll put a link for that down in the description guys have a good one and I will see you all in the next video
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