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hardware they've done an article on DJI a lot of people are talking about this DJI was rocked by a massive fraud scandal recently which could lead to some really big losses so the world's largest producer of consumer drones just realized that there are several cases of fraud within their own company they could lose more than 150 million bucks due to corruption this is a pretty big deal within the company a very well-known popular and respected company very I mean they're just all over the place so they had a big they usually have a big showing at CES always have some good stuff to show off so much corruption is going on right now within the company DJI is currently investigating themselves and and they have they've already contacted law enforcement so they've called the cops on themselves they called the cops on this way you gotta get down here I'm really fucking up I need some self help you know great feed from the drone recording the other drones which are all engaging in drone drone sodomy right is that does that involved uh actually yeah I think so because it does say that that the company created a high-level anti-corruption task Oh to investigate the corruption further which I would imagine is just a fleet of drones that you know you know how that like you know how like DJI has has their their Matic pro they've got their phantom Pro they also have the inspire one I think now they have the Enquirer one probably that they're just like the drones going around just asking people like are you correct the DJI inquire it's the exactly the same as the inspire except it asks you interrogate of questions like are you guilty that they've kicked off like the drone ish Inquisition that's what you're saying exactly the diffuser somebody expects the drone Inquisition that's exactly what's happening here I think it's a very effective method that's where I'm going with this they're they're drones made for fun and to intimidate but at the same time so and see this is all probably brought to light by my by my killer robots of CES video exactly which obviously was squashed by the YouTube algorithm because I had the word killer in the title but I didn't really not do as well as you'd hope no I did very poorly really I mean compared to the rest of my CES coverage I wanted it sure you're probably right killer sure it's because it's a killer in the title on YouTube you know that's a bad that's bad it's it's a bad I don't know though because I've been watching a lot of the or a serial killer like serial killer Chronicles that have just millions of views from like the Chris Watts case and shit like that on YouTube on YouTube and this is the word killer in the title all the like big massive killer so I don't know maybe you're saying it's the killer robots themselves it's probably the killer robots to squash my video because they don't want to shed light on how close they are to destroy I am happy at least that that hot hardware is is backing me up by publishing this story now on DJ eyes drones which we're not saying they're gonna be killer drone are killer drones but I think it could be done he's saying in the future we're just saying that the world's biggest producer of of drones and a massive 50 were gentle obviously where I wouldn't put you in the best situation if you were to prevents killer drones because I feel like if you wanted to cover up fraud the best way to do that would be killer dramas that's how I'm wrapping this all up that's its that's all I'm saying I have a feeling to see you of DGI is a drone like heat like the drone just created this whole company from the ground up and he's trying to blow the lid off of himself to make the humans look bad so that the drones have more power and can eventually take over does the CEO drone actually know that he is a drone himself or does he believe is just a human as one of those stories like the people go to the office there's this big like massive drone hovering they're like what is your report and like sir everything I feel like it's situation I'm getting out of control but I think it's like like ah get me a drink of water I don't think we should do that sir like I need water I'm thirsty and that that see well like it's the other sap I feel like it's equally terrifying either way like okay there's this guy Hitler he's killed millions and millions of people yeah but is he self-aware does it change the fact that he's threatening force I'm saying and I know you fear your beard in the Hitler territory that's just like I Hitler the ultimate trump card yeah oh they're a play on words somewhere in there all right we're getting off topic what's best of luck DJ I love your products thanks let's see there's a YouTube video that I found on the the hardware subreddit thought I thought I thought was interesting from the partings I think it's pronounced ratings but I have no idea our things are things they tested 25 freesync monitors with GeForce GPU to see if the updated driver from Nvidia actually does allow you to run free sting support or half racing support with a Pascal or newer GeForce GPU and this guy is very short video because they've linked the full article the written article and stuff you if you want to check that out it's in the video description Daniel this is Daniel which who I am not familiar with you do you know Daniel do you know him no okay how do you know his name is Daniel he just because I've jumped to the part in the video where they put his name oh okay so you just watched the first five seconds the video which I clearly failed to do so so basically they it's it's pretty straightforward here bottom line is that most panels most racing panels function the same regardless if you're using a geforce card or an AMD GPU it doesn't really matter there are some exceptions however for example you can run free sync over HDMI yeah and there are some free sync displays and TVs especially that only have HDMI ports but support free sync you cannot take advantage of free sync adaptive refresh rate with a geforce card using those panels because it's only available via display board that's how the Nvidia engineers our coders optimized it or added support was through the DisplayPort as article acquirements cuz exactly she sync has never been HDMI compatible yeah do you think is always required DisplayPort correct so that's an exception and they did have they did encounter some glitching and stuttering and things like that with a couple of the panels maybe like two of them I think is is are the ones that they listed the Samsung UJ 590 that they found constant tearing and artifacts with the gtx 1060 as well as the samsung youíve 590 they found similar artifacts with the geforce card when it was when they won those panels were working perfectly fine with AMD equivalence so this also ties into the geforce compatible standard that nvidia is created for for for this added support which it's it's still kind of unclear as to what ticks all the boxes and what's required by nvidia specifically to become a decent compatible display but and they've only verified about 12 of 12 of the freesync monitors I think in out of hundreds and hundreds 400 plus 400 plus to be fully you know g-sync compatible nvidia has their high standards about them but it seems to be the fact that most free sync panels will work perfectly fine regardless of the type of GPU you're using and that's pretty much it I did want to also highlight that did our friend Daniel says he pronounces the word Nvidia very very interestingly if you look at if you I don't know if there's audio history of it they didn't misspell it but he says it in such a way that sounds like the top comment is Nvidia Nvidia he says in a video which I've never heard it pronounced that way and I'm unsure if it's like and he seems like he has a British accent so I don't think it's like a an accent thing where he cannot physically pronounce the ends like in Nvidia like Swedish people can't pronounce why is they say or J's they say yeah but uh it's just very distracting it's very distracting in the video he says the Nvidia Nvidia g-sync supported cards eaten a video desync no I'm gonna call it guessing Nvidia go sync just just sync when paired with an Intel CPU with the get expects 20/80 ty we could probably find other examples of that and but a seuss motherboard okay I'm getting I'm getting off tangent here let's move on to our next article which is from hexxus about Corsair announcing their new range of premium PC accessories premium cables looks like they're being in a call from spam you could answer it on stream yeah your hemorrhoid appointment is two weeks away Paul it's really I don't have hemorrhoids you can't no I know I mean I wouldn't know either way I shouldn't say I know I don't know the inner workings of your butthole but what are you asking about just you just letting the vibrate you don't just like silence it so that it doesn't vibrate any more that would give the caller some indication that there is actually someone on the other line that they're calling from that they might call back I disagree I think if they knew that you purposely axed axed their call that they'd be like this person clearly isn't interested whereas if you didn't then interfere they'd be like oh they dish they weren't around they were out of town they were at Italia to call it might I'll call the back what tomorrow my personal stance is if that there is absolutely zero indication that there is a human at the other end of the number that's being called that there will be less likelihood that they attempt that call again but that's just me love to benchmark that at some point I mean what would be nice is if the FCC was continuing to go after Robo colors that you know do you have Mr number or a similar app installed no it's very handy it'd be kind of annoying sometimes with unprompted pop-ups but it'll tell you it's like it's like ways but it's like a crowdsourced phone caller ID so you'll get a call and like people just you know based on what other people have said about that number like this is a spam fake bank account where this is a spam telemarketer from India I would be worried about that service being compromised and then my name being somehow added to lists like this person really doesn't want any phone calls they should be added to like the bug them more often list because that's probably what they have because it has a list of people like these people super in our long gang calls so like bug the shit out of them that's that's my opinion probably it's probably what's going on there yeah I agree all right so Corsair has got a new line of premium cables you can see is lovely lovely cable cable offered in both full-length and extension models they they also do feature inline capacitors for the 24 pin ATX EPS 12 volt and PCI Express cables for clean voltage delivery and consistent stable power they look to be paracord sleeves IMO if you look at the close-up shot up top they look kind of paracord II and they're kind of more that fabric material because they're sort of wavy you can kind of see have a sort of wavy they look a bit more fabric II tell you I wouldn't I wouldn't assume that but I don't never sure well maybe not paracord but at least that sort of like more cloth fabric material I would think that like a picture that they're distributing for people to show like hey look at these fancy sleep they do everyone that they would like they they obviously have cable comb going up to this point but everything beyond that is like oh this is just go just go whichever way we want and I have no idea if this is a promo shot some Corsair this is Jeff I'm not impressed no no definitely not which is also kind of why it was reverse air that's directly from Corsair I know because I picture I got the email that they sent out oh no it's all your stuff that's part of the fun thing I've sort of come to realize that I use the same picture as I am on some of these mailing lists sure as I wake up in the morning and I'll see an email that's gone out from Corsair it's like hey of course there has these products this product and this product and this product and this product and then I'll wait right and like an hour later all of the tech like written tech sites would be like Corsair stuff and they basically have taken and paraphrase the Corsair press releases they put up but just how it works I mean that's right work I just I just find it interesting cuz of like oh I got that email already right so I know what they're talking about right no that's true now you have a valid point there Paul I cannot argue with that you can't can argue with your irrefutable can are you with logic it's in there in arguable so I I hope that you know I'd like to see companies like Coursera because the thing is like Corsair like if you're gonna release custom cables I don't know how well you can compete with a company like cable mod which isn't brand specific because your full-length cables are gonna be I would I would think wired directly to your PS use whereas cable mod offers a variety the extensions yes the extensions I could say are universal that's safe to say but I also feel like if you're thinking extensions your first the first place your minds gonna go is like a non brand specific brand like cable mod not I'm looking for extensions let's go to Silverstone you know I will say that the cable kits that I've gotten that kind of like EVGA has you know cable extension kits that you can get to come with that that work with their power supplies I just worked with the Asus Thor 1200 watt power supply I kind of sleep cables pulling cables as well as cable mod combs that you can bring used to comb to comb it up if you want to train them all the right way sure none of those kits that have come directly from the manufacturer have had the same premium feel and I would say thickness and yeah it comes down to thickness thick of the sleeving right because those are they're just like they're wrapped they're sleeved but it's thinner then and like it doesn't seem to fill out the cable comb right maybe spaced apart and there's these couple millimeters between these cable like you can't wire but compare that to like like you've got a kid over there from in source that you just sprayed from pollen to your hot line to write all those kits that I've gotten like they just they're just I don't know just types of material yeah it's nicer that whether it's paracord or otherwise rings it just fills it out more yeah it really is just that a little bit of thickness that I feel like really had so much once to that premium feel so definitely yes yeah thick thickness it's very important but for that reason I would say if you're looking at like spending that extra 50 to 150 bucks on custom sleeve cables might as well really concern about the aesthetics like go was one with one of the smaller companies that have been the dozen by hand resin to order because so worth it it's really worth it absolutely I agree apart from that you know they've got a bunch of different things they have their own branded thermal paste now which is which is TM 30 the TM 30 which is supposed to be you know high low velocity and or viscosity sorry and yeah I mean I don't know if we're gonna have to actually see how it how it does compared to other other options out there but Corsair thermal paste is now a thing people are obsessing that it's not 30 why is it tiem 30 um I think that's just the model name are they talking about the oh sure 30 indicates here for the TM 30 keeps you it oh maybe it's the temperature that they're promising who knows could be I feel like the decimal point is in the wrong place here point 0 to 9 degrees Celsius that is that accurate well below freezing accurate to me yeah that might be a typo I don't think that if it is accurate they're basically saying our thermal paste will give you performance that is point zero zero six degrees Celsius that's like that's insane that's what it doesn't make sense at all point zero six degrees Celsius there's no way in freezing hell I feel like that's negligible like no it has to be wait did you feel that what I just got point zero zero 16 must be this it's from an evil spirit oh yeah that's probably a typo no I have to imagine I mean but what if it's not what if they're actually sticking to that like nope this is this is maybe that's for engineers for legal purposes you know they can't claim anything more than that so it could yeah you might be right actually doing I'm just buying a game a game yeah it's not so important it's not important all right so so Corsair also has nothing that's all they have I just feel like they can't you know they're like a lot of others it was kind of it was kind of a mix of things a lot of them right oh you got thermal face now you've got a few other things now there was nothing that jumped out to me they they have a key they have a PCI Express extension cable now Anchorage is like did you can buy that anywhere fine there's a lot of companies that have those there's nothing unique there's nothing it looks like a clean design for I like the individual bands for the 5 for the for the PCIe leads going through there what's a clean looking cable and premium it is important to get a premium PCI Express extension these these like sleeve to SATA cables like wow that's only available in red white and blue though and black which I find kind of bizarre I mean you got a problem with the red red blue cow no but I just feel like why not like green or yellow or orange there's so many other colors that people use that's true these must be the most common colors people use those are the same colors that they offered in their their AF and SF series fans when they first came out we really have the Rings the detachable rings on their fans oh wait people are hold on I also make no plans colors temperature rise per watt all right to clarify what we were making fun of earlier and that chat has now pointed out well this is the temperature rise per watt so that actually is accurate temperature Oh temperature rise her water what that okay so why didn't I don't catch that sorry chat did not it was fun to make fun of briefly though until you guys pointed out that it actually was listed yeah way to use logic and shit now we've stupid now we've no we have nothing to laugh at anymore way to ruin our fun and it's your fault it is all right so I'll let's move on to the next story which is about gigabytes this is an article from overclocked 3d dotnet covering their Oris r-tx 2070 gaming box this is a GPU enclosure desktop GPU enclosure that comes included with an RT X 2070 that's branded by auras of course uses Thunderbolt 3 connectivity to your Ultrabook or ultra-thin laptop to add the gaming horsepower of of a full-size desktops so they see this looks like it's not like there's a separate discrete graphics is there a separate discrete graphics card in there yes could you pull it out of there yes well I don't know if you could pull it out so she said but there is a desktop GPU in there RTX 2070 that has a custom heatsink and custom fan in there that wouldn't be ideal for a desktop situation this looks like a large fan yeah mm-hmm it's got its own unique cooling system but it is a desktop RTX 27 t in there all right which sure why not I'd be curious to see more pictures of this we do everything because yeah I mean I guess you could assume that if somebody is buying something like this pardon me to use with a laptop right they don't care about having the flexibility of like a separate discrete graphics card in there that I could pull out no and drop into a gaming desktop PC or something like that yeah all you care about is the effectiveness and the functionality of this little unit itself so they're building an entire external unit specifically designed with with the idea in mind that it is gonna be an external unit so they're putting a big old fan in there that's that's somewhat interesting I mean it's kind of cool that they've gone the extra mile to optimize the cooling for this particular structure and environment and form factor and stuff they didn't just stick a GPU in there so for which leads me to believe that it's gonna be cooler and quieter then if you were to just have stuck one of gigabytes RTX 2070 models in there well if you're able to like most graphics cards are made to fit within a footprint that's you know the height of a PCI Express expansion slot by you know 10 to 12 inches right maybe a little bit higher than that if it's a custom PCB or something like that but right you know they keep it within those specifications to have the maximum amount of inter compatibility true with lots of different installations if you a home builder you can drop it in there you can sell that to an OEM who says we're gonna make you know several thousand of this this system at the specs with this power draw right and we want this graphics card to drop in there so taking that away you don't have to build specifically to fit those that wide variety of scenarios sure probably have a lot more flexibility with the cooling solution and one of the best things to do when it comes to fans is just make the fan bigger sure looks that that looks like a much larger that looks like 180 millimeter fan to me maybe right give or take yeah it's hard to say how big that cold enclosure is but it does look like a pretty big much larger than a conventional fan a decent amount of space here with some exhaust at the back so yeah that's that's an interesting product that differentiates it a little bit more from those like hey we built this external we have this external box connects via lightning in just any hydro-zone GPU graphics card drops in there which there is some appeal to that and I think it still remains to be seen as to whether you could swap out this r-tx 2070 for a different GPU down the line it seems like you might not be able to because it's got this custom cooler on it so there's a bit of a drawback there this eye or I should say a trade off you get maybe a more robust cooling solution but a proprietary GPU the flipside might be now you're stuck with the graphics card that's in there and if you ever want a deaf grade to a 20 atti while you're screwed because you have a custom proprietary cooling so it's an all-in-one solution you got to buy a whole new that's device that's the flip side to that yeah so let's move on to our next article here which is from hexxus Dutton and once again AMD has responded to the Radeon seven short supply rumors because as we mentioned in in last week's episode there were a lot of there's a lot of speculation that there'd only be 5,000 units made of the Radeon seven which is not a lot and that there would be no adding board partner variants available so AMD responded pretty quickly and they said while we don't report on production numbers externally we will have products available via via Adam board partners and AMD comm at launch of February 7th thanks for reiterating when these will be available we already knew that and we expect Radeon seven supply to meet demand from gamers which is a fairly weak and underwhelming response I would say because it doesn't you don't necessarily you could still consider like they might be saying like yeah we're gonna have added board partner variants but they might be meaning like like the rebranded reference designs or it's exactly the same cooler but it just has an EVGA logo on it or something similar it doesn't mean anything and they also didn't confirm or deny if there were only going to be 5,000 samples made or 5,000 units made or a very limited quantity the fact that they say you know there's going to be enough to meet demand could literally mean anything that's so subjective what if they expect demand to be 5,000 units exactly exactly what if they're just not expecting you know there to be a bunch of demand based on whatever performance and pricing that they're offering it's it's basically saying something without saying anything they're just saying to say it and it still remains to be seen this doesn't clarify anything so it's really a this is a news news or article saying that there is no news apart from AMD being just slightly dodgy about the situation Nvidia CEO however Jenson Huang claimed that his competitors new card of the Radeon 7 and I quote lousy performance while he confidently says will crush it some fighting words there from from from the leather jacket wearing man himself lousy performance and will crush it which to me means okay does he already have a sample of the Radeon seven does he know what it's capable of like how would he know does he have like inside insider spies that steal Radeon sevens or competing products give them to hater Jensen this is what we found from all competitive look at it then he can verify then this is clearly I think I'm it's safe to say you know publicly that this is lousy right as I already know the performance how does he know how does he know what the Radeon seven state Belov it's interesting any time I see something like this from a competitor talking shit talking smack on one of the rivals like do how how subjective or objective is that and and how how good how well performing does the Radeon seven need to be to even stay competitive with Nvidia at a $6.99 price point $6.99 is I mean you could I looked at Newegg earlier today and I found two maybe one or two r-tx 2080s for about 700 bucks maybe for 720 safe to say within the seven hundred dollar price range if you're looking about if you're talking about gaming or you're interested in gaming first and foremost the Radeon seven has to compete with an RT X 2080 yeah to be competitive in my opinion has to at least like chase it close enough to where you could overclock it and get really close or right on par with that performance otherwise people are just gonna buy the RT x 2080 we don't know I don't know I don't know has anyone ever tested a instinct was it M 150 mi 150 in gaming it's not it doesn't it's not a fair comparison scale one to ones and the drivers like right like my optimized for gaming completely different and yeah gaming drivers are optimized for games so that's a pretty significant impact how many streaming processors does the Radeon stuff of that much I never get it's an it's in the video I don't remember off the top of my head I don't listen at any rate like everything that AMD has come out with when it comes to the Radeon seven that they have been comparing to moderate you know two recent Nvidia stuff has been comparing it to the 20 80s right bring some to my from my perspective that means AMD has a graphics card mm-hmm they're able to produce in a reasonable volume whether that means five thousand cards or whether it means more than that remains to be seen they find that it has reasonably competitive commence against a twenty eighty and they're able to sell it for a price that is in the same range as a twenty eighty and they're definitely pushing not just gaming performance but also like content creation stuff with it and I think that has to do with the the 16 gigs of HBM to memory which is a lot of memory for a gaming graphics card so it could be a very nice product there they're pushing sort of a crossover use case scenario sure but I think that is also a use case scenario that you know there's a reasonable amount of people who might be interested in right now because there might be reasonable number of people interested in a graphics card that can do pretty good at games and can also like you know we run the shit out of some some video processing or something like that or 3d rendering or anything in that rep problem so that's so niche point being you know we'll have to wait and see when when it comes to the card itself right anything Jensen has to say about this right now I would have to say is pretty heavily slanted based on the fact that he's a CEO of the number-one competitor it's AMD right so trying to make a just know your wine from the he's just trying to throw something out there to throw some shade to the throws and also feeling very confident because you know NVIDIA has been doing very well and they've been pretty unmatched in the high-end market so far yes don't you see we'll see you very soon just adding the how that because the launch date is February 7th yes so stay tuned stay tuned stay tuned stay tuned next segments though necks hauled hit my porn no have my definitely not it not take of the day ask the audience ass we're asking you guys some questions I came up with these questions five minutes before the show started so the all really bad but I don't care you don't have a see audience in here Cal I don't have asked the audience yeah whatever happened time to ask the audience really yeah have we never done that segment on maybe never over at my house weird oh it's all right just just throw up a random one that we haven't done in years cool story bro story bro sure yeah so this is where we ask you guys a series of three questions you answer as honestly as possible that's what makes it fun and then Paul and I try to speculate and argue over what your answers are going to be q and egg oh my god Wow whoo Wow Rafi Wow last one last that's something to stall juh it's a straight double shot and nostalgia without a chaser right there so we're gonna ask you guys some questions we're gonna post some polls and chat you guys answer honestly and then Paul and Paul will speculate over what your answers are and whoever is farthest away from determining what the actual audience response is we'll have to take a swig of their drink so the first question I have here is I think it's a pretty it's it seemed like a stupid question at first but then I realize like this is actually a pretty good question that probably doesn't get asked enough what's the perfect size the perfect size for an SSD boot drive so you got an SSD that you're putting your operating system onto what's what's like the good size like what's the sweet spot happy medium perfect size that's not gonna cost you too much but also gonna give you enough room enough ceiling room for all your applications all your frequently used apps and software's you know based on 20 19's pricing and trends and things like that I think this is a pretty good question after all so we're good Paul and I are gonna speculate on that I feel like that has that link that looks like that links already gone out in chat thank you very much talent at all do we want to talk about this first or should we ask the second question next what you think I do think we should ask the second question all right we'll ask the second question next this is totally off on a tangent completely unrelated to to the PC space but I just popped in my mind because I was kind of curious to hear you guys as thoughts here would you actually legitimately volunteer to be on mankind's first journey to Mars would you actually step volunteer to step on foot step on board that spaceship that rocket and go to Mars and be the one of the first humans to ever attempt landing on Mars keyword attempt no guarantee that you're gonna get there you're just you're just volunteering your guinea pig in here I don't know I think it's kind of a provocative question there's there's some things to be gained very provocative some things to be lost so let's go back to our first question here what's the perfect size for an SSD boot drive Paul your thoughts I'm gonna say I'm gonna say one terabyte because I love one terabyte SSD that's you're following your heart yeah and I can't I can't knock you for following your heart what I feel you're gonna have a hard time convincing me otherwise you know yeah one terabyte SSDs are just they're just they're awesome they are sexy because you install windows and you know and then you download like a game like like call of duty black ops 4 which is 80 freaking gigs or whatever yeah I mean I I don't care and I have a 1 terabyte SSD yeah there's just so much room sure I don't even have to think about it true um until I start copying a bunch of video files to the desktop yeah yeah in which case you know it starts to fill up and then you're like oh crap I need to copy those files to an eternal Drive and once you do that you can delete them you have any free up some space and then you get into sort of a back and forth where that's sort of a never-ending thing because you've had so many so many video files to copy there's just so much every time you make videos like 80 gigs worth footage 120 gigs worth of footage never stops where do you put all the video fuck gotta put them on the desktop gotta put it somewhere you know that's dusty you gotta gotta copy them make sure the copied into locations because one of the SSDs dies would it what happens then well like you lose like your video footage B if what you've done I feel like you feel like you're definitely pitching this from a content creators perspective which may not be representative of the average user just how I feel okay but but also very very passionate very passionate response thank you I'm gonna say I'm gonna say 500 gigs I'm gonna say 500 gigs as a sweet spot 500 get like the price on SSDs in general has come lay down where you can buy a 500 gig SSD for the price you you were able to buy a 250 gig or even a 120 gig SSD way in the past and I think 500 gigs is great because you know you maybe you get 10 to 30 gigs for your OS and you've got your frequently used applications and programs maybe you know another 10 20 30 gigs there and you've got you've still got some room maybe your frequently used games that you can you could install them there but it's also gonna be significantly cheaper than a full one terabyte drive I think you know mechanical storage still very much has its place and I agree with Paul you should get a one terabyte OS drive if it's your only drive or for some reason you have a very small a smaller size companion Drive to accompany it but I think as an OS drive 500 gigs is the current sweet spot if you're talking about the mid to high end build if you're if you're still on the more conservative budget level I think 250 gig is pretty solid but I think if you've got the just a little bit of extra cash flow there 500 gig gives you that extra ceiling room and that peace of mind because there is also performance degradation over time as you fill up your drive and I feel like 250 gig drives can get filled up pretty quickly and that's the last drive you want to get performance degradation on is the that you're booting your operating system from so 500 gig is my thoughts should we look at the results now or yes go to now before people you know change change all their minds to 50 Wow to fitty we were both wrong to fitty but I was closer here both wrong it's closer by a lot though we're both wrong we both lose but I was wrong you were wrong her doesn't it doesn't matter Kyle does that's how it's how it works whoever's the wrongest I mean it has to drink if the penalty for losing was death would that mean that I would be more dead than you yes no it wouldn't mean you were more the dead you'd just be dead and I would keep my life they'd both be dead no because in it we both lose but in this case whoever is the most right wins the dude the dude who picked 250 gigs would win no he'd be alive no whoever is the least wrong its whoever is the least wrong wins that's how you win is you be the least wrong so you would be dead this wasn't me and I would be fortnight dancing over your over your rotting corpse this wasn't made clear to me before we embarked upon this you shouldn't have a contract for meliorate that both of us lost therefore we both are dead and one of us lost by him much I went with the Irish Mike a good answer just because not enough people recognize the good answer do you know Mike circumstances no what you know no one likes the underdog in that that should be held against me what's the third question we're gonna answer question is all right I really like this question it doesn't make any sense which which PC part like out of all the parts in a PC which which part would die first in a battle royale match cuz battle Royales all the rage these days we've got the sort of like eight or nine you know commonly used components in a build CPU motherboard memory video card CPU cooler power supply hard drive SSD case which one would die first if they if they had an all-out brawl I see which of these parts would die first but so we'll get that out in chat you guys can go ahead and vote on that let's go back to our our first or second question here would you volunteer to be on mankind's first journey to Mars and I think I think we should do a percentage here you should say yes or no and then the percentage you feel is going to be accurate so I'll go first this time okay I I feel like most people would say no but not by a lot especially with our tech savvy audience I'm gonna say no and I'm gonna say 42% 42% no 42% say hell no all right I'm gonna go with what I originally thought I was gonna say before I heard your answer okay which was which was 37% not 37% 37% no all right that's because if you're asked to pick a number between one and a hundred you pick there's a very high percentage chance that you'll pick the number 37 that's just statistically accurate all right click vote before they skew their reviews if you want to like trick your friends and family and some thinking that you're psychic or something go to them do like pick a number between one and a hundred and then think 37 and there's like a pretty good chance that that's what they picked I will try that next time try it out and blame you try it out results results 34% Oh which means I win I'm much closer I sent 37% for hell yes you said 40 yeah for hell yes right yes okay you said 40 something I did this is 43 Thank You last number I was only off by obviously isn't borne out but as Mystics 8% not bad not bad still you lost still lost it's really a third really third of you okay and go into the going to Mars all right do you take your squig of course it it that's right thought I have to pee now Oh welcome to my world alright last question which PC part would die the first die first in a battle royale match okay I'm gonna say hard drive I thought you might I say hard drive because it is of all of the parts on this list the one that is of the most outdated and also the one that you could get by without if you had no hard drive hate it you could you could get by with everything else and on this list like you have to have a CPU you have to have a motherboard you have to have memory you're going for making a very pragmatic example you could get by without a video card yes but I don't feel like that is the first to die in a battle royale match sure that you know CPU cooler yeah maybe as well but I just feel like her drive is gonna be the and also if you hit if you punch a hard drive while he's running you know he's bound to get screwed up there exactly thank you for proving my point Catherine well no I mean stupid still stupid I I would say I would say the motherboard because the motherboard gets attacked on all fronts it literally has every other component in the system going for it it's literally getting just like railed it's like a it's like a royal gangbang really the motherboard has to endure it's not very it's not how you picture your mother at all it's uh you know every as our good friend ins and moderator style always says every every hole is a goal and that's it's not necessarily the first thing you want to hear when you're trying to protect those holes and not get royally screwed and all your mother ports I I rest my case that's all that's my strongest argument at the moment I think I did I think I did okay all right yeah that's reasonable so do we look at do we look at third third results yeah let's look at the third one results are drying oh you win 33% you win again anything close oh not even close more than double damn the number of votes is the next follow up a secret CPU motherboard coming in third so you weren't like that far off I guess no not not too bad that horrible okay all right here we go all right I win I went again all right I drink this with pride well done Cal and that that's it is all four cows half of the show my house thank you guys for watching Kyle's half of the show ah we're still gonna continue on some hardware with the after party yeah which is linked in the description yes no it is not in the description it's public it's frickin public you can do it find Italy in public its public and you can find it on the damn live streams first all right and I'll put it in the damn description right now cool thanks for watching guys thanks thanks for the time stamp maker as well please do time stamp time stamps in the comment section also donations and Johnson's will be shattered out in the after party yes so stay tuned for always very soon all right bye guys bye