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Does the 1700 BEAT the 7700K in Games when STREAMING?

2017-04-08
what's going on guys welcome back to the channel hope you're all doing well so it has been about a month now since the launch of risin 7 and after all the reviews and articles and videos have gone up we can pretty much conclude that when you're talking strictly about gaming something like the core i7 7700 K from Intel their flagship cable a chip outperforms the Rison 7 stack most of the time now there are of course certain exceptions to this rule but for the most part the 7700 K reigns supreme when you're talking about purely gaming so what we're here to do today is to see if that pide sort of shifts or changes at all if we throw a live encoding into the mix so today we're going to be streaming out three Triple A games and ultra settings a couple different based resolutions to see if perhaps when the system is tasked with live encoding if the 1700 for example that were going to be testing today can eventually pass up the 7700 K in terms of gaming performance as the 7700 K might struggle a bit more since it does have fewer cores and threads at its disposal to handle live streaming but we're going to find out what kind of impact streaming has on either of these platforms today so that should be kind of interesting here's a quick look at the rest of the testing hardware you can see that we've got some over clocks running on these CPUs as well the 1700 was pushed to 3.9 gigahertz with the 7700 K hitting 4.9 would have loved to hit 5 gigahertz but we didn't quite have the thermal dissipation we needed with that hyper 212 X turbo as it is a smaller air cooler tower you can also see we've got a gtx 1070 founder's Edition running stock for both systems so that is a constant between our platforms today and that is running the latest local driver 3 78.92 on Windows 10 64 bit as far as our streaming settings are concerned I fired up OBS studio and dialed in a 3,500 kill bit per second bit rate and I'm also using the fast preset of the x264 software encoder also the streaming output resolution and frame rate that we're going to be using for all of these tests are 1920 by 1080 at 60 frames per second as far as base resolutions though the base resolutions of the the user is natively gaming yet we're actually testing two of those 1920 by 1080 and 2560 by 1440 I would imagine that these are two very popular resolutions that a lot of live streamers like to game at which is why I'm testing both of them today here we have doom at the base resolution of 1080p and the way these charts are going to work is that the upper half is going to represent gaming performance whereas the lower half of the chart represents gaming while streaming and you can see the top half when we're just talking about gameplay here the 7700 K does pull ahead of the 1700 by a small margin which is pretty expected and then once we actually kick in the streaming aspect of things the 7,700 case still does pull ahead of the 1700 and you could actually see that there's a performance dip across both CPUs I would I would even say that the 1700 takes a larger hit a slightly larger hit than the 7700 K which is pretty interesting doom isn't a super CPU heavy game so the 7700 K still has quite a few resources at its disposal even though we are streaming out at 1080p moving up to a base resolution to 1440p when we're strictly gaming the performance gap closes in a bit simply because we're now a little bit more GPU bound than we once we're at 1080p and that's why we see the 1,700 almost staying neck-and-neck with the 70 700 K but not quite we can also see the performance gaps start to close when we're streaming however it just seems that this game isn't quite demanding enough on the CPU from the 1700 to actually pull ahead of its Intel counterpart now this graph here sort of illustrates the impact of streaming on performance with either CPU and both based resolutions and that's reflected as a percentage so obviously lower is going to be better on this particular chart and you can see the 7700 K just does a bit better overall than the 1700 at both resolutions the 1700 really struggled with 0.1% and 1% lows especially at 1080p it didn't do so hot there obviously it was still in enjoyable and smooth experience overall but based on the numbers here we can see the 7700 K actually has an easier time streaming Doom at either resolution let's see if things change it all in GTA 5 at 1080p once again we see the 7700 K pull ahead of the 1700 when we're just gaming however when we start streaming you can notice that the one percent in point one percent lows are a lot more evenly matching that between both chips and in fact the point one percent lows of the 1700 actually beat out the 7700 K here and that could maybe partially be explained by the fact that GTA 5 is a heavily threaded and heavily a-c-p CPU intensive game which could mean that the 7,700 k is sort of struggling to juggle both the game and live encoding on the fly' now 1440p the frame rates are nearly identical between both chips when we're simply gaming and that's again likely due to some elements of GPU bottlenecking from cranking up that resolution but when we switch over to streaming notice how the 1% in point 1% lows of the 1700's are now clearly overtaking the 7700 K and by a sizable margin actually and even though the average frame rates of our rising chip aren't quite up to snuff with the 7700 K we're still seeing an overall smoother experience in theory because we're having some tighter frame times and average frame rates the gap between those three figures is much closer together than they are on the 7700 K so this is definitely a huge point for the Zen architecture in this particular test now the overall performance hit when streaming in GTA v certainly looks a bit different than it did in do with the 7700 K incurring nearly a 40% performance penalty at both resolutions with its 1% lows which is definitely going to add a bit of perceptible choppiness to the user experience even its average FPS at 1080p was sort of lagging behind the 1,700 taking a 29% performance hit as compared to the 1700's 25 at 1440p there's really no comparison here with the core i7 taking some massive hits to its 1% in point one percent lowest point one percent low is at 52 percent performance degradation when streaming it simply does not keep up or handle itself nearly as well as the 1700's in GTA 5 the last game we tested was battlefield 1 and at 1080p we see the 7700 K once again beating out the 1700 when we're just gaming it's business as usual kicking the streaming though and we actually see the average frame rate of the 1700 pull ahead of the 7700 K for the first time with 103 fps versus the 101 that the core i7 was able to achieve and look at those 1% and 0.1% lows just a staggering difference to validate these numbers I triple check my settings and ran these tests again and again three or four times just to make sure that they were accurate and time and again we were seeing these numbers pop up within one to three percent variance so these are accurate these are numbers this is how the 7700 K performs under the pressure of live encoding switching over to 1440p we see the trend continued as the 1700 superior 1% and point 1% lows and the 7700 K is just displaying frames on screen a bit longer and a bit more frequently than the 1700s indicating that it's slightly more choppy and less fluid experience overall even though it might be marginal it still is suffering based on the data quite a bit more than its risin rival when it comes to streaming battlefield 1 if we take a look at the performance hit percentages here we can just see how much the 7700 K starts to drop off when streaming this game with its 1% lows I mean incurring a 49% performance penalty at 1080p and a 37% hit at 1440p just kind of devastating blows here point 1% lows are even worse granted those aren't going to be nearly as noticeable in-game as 1% lows are they're still quite devastating and you compare that to the tighter groupings the 1700 is able to achieve with its average and 1% lows it's just a phenomenal victory here for the 1700 and perhaps the rising 7 family as a whole so to kind of sum up all the data that we have here whether or not the 1700 outperforms the 7700 K when live-streaming heavily depends on the game engine itself and how it interfaces with the CPU architecture its cores and threads and so forth but what we did see on several occasions is that in certain titles that were heavily CPU intensive like GTA 5 or battlefield 1 the 1700 in many instances actually pulls ahead of the 7700 K when it comes to frame times and also delivers an overall more fluid perceptibly fluid experience for the user just based on the tighter groupings of those frame rates overall compared to the 7700 K which further validates my earlier claims that the Rison 7 stack is a better value per dollar than KD lake is when it comes to heavily multi-threaded applications that go beyond the scope of just gaming whether you're talking about rendering and coding live encoding streaming and things like that Rison 7 is really showing some great promise in those areas and it's also very exciting because it's still really early on for good old Rison we're still waiting for these n architecture to be put into the hands of more game developers so that they can further optimize their game code and deliver higher performance on the a m4 platform when it comes to a lot of these triple-a titles that's super exciting there's a lot more to come more testing to be done for sure but that's that's what I got for you guys for now so hopefully you enjoyed this video be sure to toss me a like on it if you did and feel free to leave your thoughts about this these results today in the comments below I'd love to hear all about them but have a good one guys I will see y'all in the next video pipes
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