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people can be tasty that sounds disturbing hi everyone and welcome to awesome hardware are we live to both should be okay I guess we could start the show hello welcome awesome Hardware episode 181 side a in about half an hour maybe even less because I didn't really prepare for my half at all today we'll be switching over to Paul's half that can be found in the link in my description below or you can just stay where you are if you're watching us on Twitch we'd like to have a few drinks on the show and we get a little rowdy sometimes if you're if you're sensitive to adult language that be warned occasionally you'll slip out but haste full we have good intent we have good intentions it's it's appropriate when used just right we never we ever swear out of line yeah but some people still have stick up their asses about that kind of shit oh say see that I did that right no that was Joe's irony it was my middle name Kyle I'm drinking a rogue hazelnut Brown nectar that's a good beer which is delicious these are delicious have you had this one yet no that's new show demand reppin that over there I don't mind it all aftershock Brewing Company peanut alert red ale from Temecula Temecula huh to Merck mercury I made it this handmade they didn't even use barrels or equipment they just holds the beer there just hold it up hold the hops up to the Sun and turns into alright cool well thank you guys for joining us it's it's gonna be a fun day we have a lot of good news to talk about it's gonna be awesome on Paul's half because again I didn't really prepare so I've got like three maybe like three stories and we're gonna do ask the audience on my half nope it by PC today which would have been a great opportunity to do it because it definitely fills up a lot of time essentially but I was even too unprepared for that so you know some days I'm just gonna rough it some days are better than others one of those you know I think we'll get through it anyway and I think I think so well I'll learn something along the way maybe even something about ourselves yes so let's let's divert no no first of all we have to whore ourselves out yeah so my store I have an online store bit weight tech a lot of the same stuff that has been there for years actually is still there including these good why would you get rid of good things including the stay positive t-shirt that I always CJ wearing positive should be there somewhere but the the t-shirt material what do they call this again this fabric cotton cotton no it's a tri-blend tri-blend tri-blend shirts are very comfy you should try to blend just try to blend in yep mouse pads and stuff pulse Paul's a story's pulsar Burnett pulsar bird they have a brand new t-shirt design it's a great design it's a great design that's actually printed on multiple pieces of merchandise it's the captive thumbscrew look at he's so sad the only thing that could cheer him up is if you bought one of his shirts or about what of his items he's a thumbscrew he's came to jail cells have to drum screw I'd like to see you and your friends will get it and other people will be like where's the one on it to you I want to see like a revision of this where he's in the toilet or like on the toilet like a thumb screw he's shitting the thumb screw shitting me the jail cell toys and more medic does it be harder to tell what he was I think I haven't want to see I want to see the artist depiction of that because his threads would be covered by that he would actually be in the toilet or maybe maybe he wouldn't be maybe he's found a way to you know maybe he said sideways takes a dump sideways I mean I've seen cats poop in it I wouldn't I wouldn't judge him for that I think I'm screwed it's a shoo-in so yeah thank you for buying stuff from our stores will yell Johnson that you at the end of the show don't they have to party up into during the after party um and we can move on to some tech news groovy let's dive into this first article from w CCF tech about the rise in 3000 series CPUs we're all anxiously awaiting its mid 2019 watch and this this article is basically saying that there's now been some some bio support some updates that have been trickling into various X 370 and X 470 motherboy it's from a couple different manufacturers so as generally codenamed as Valhalla and internally codenamed as Valhalla I hope that becomes externally bad because that sounds bad that is a pretty bad s codename Viking mother-effing that's code name right AMD's kind of up and there they're coming at Intel from all angles like oh you're gonna name your crap after Lakes yeah how about Valhalla Elysium I want to see I want I want the Elysium update Africa afterwards yeah well yeah no that's that's true other synonyms and don't don't Vikings like like sail on lakes so it's kind of like it's also like another jab you know like we we own you we're literally on top of you that's an interesting - you're the medium in that you could be used to coast oh that would be pretty deep maybe there's somebody at AMD watching right now who's like who came up with a it's like he got it they get me everyone didn't tell said I was crazy fire this guy so that's exciting so far it's a very small list of mother motherboard manufacturers who've been really releasing BIOS updates for the 3000 series they include Asus MSI and biostar they released the new I guess it's a gator right geez geez oh geez double oh seven zero and double oh seven - I think the pronunciation of an acronym is is always up for interpretation right yeah let's try and still go back to BIOS update update your BIOS everyone I like biosis sounds foreign and that we fee do a new segment or something so that's exciting eventually all the boards will receive updates so thanks AMD or staying true to your word of future compatibility backwards compatibility so that users who don't want to have to swap out their motherboards take advantage of all the capabilities that arise in 3000 cpu offers the they don't have to do that they can just use their existing boards and swap in a new CPU or swap out their old CPU for a new one and call it a day I'm gonna be curious about cross compatibility but if you could really take if you could really get a 3000 series 12 core let's say and drop it into a be 350 motherboard and have like I'd be pretty impressed by that big damn right that's and then what well well done amazingly if you're not sacrificing much in terms of I'd be curious of course about performance but if you're just talking about something that you want to run at stock speeds right yeah I'm sure there's numerous tests about that and that'll be really interesting of course AMD is not just you know not taking the opportunity to cash in on some new products they are they have an upcoming x5 70 board line of boards that carry new features over to Rison 3000 series SKUs but but yeah the option is the the whole idea here is flexibility and upgrade ability as opposed to buying into an entirely new sort of ecosystem um let's see the creator of the rise in DRAM calculator speculates that there are a couple features that might ship with Rison 3000 series CPUs I'm not gonna read all of them but the main ones include the CCD or compute core design which is basically the new name for CCX so that's not really a new feature just a this is a similar feature a same feature under a different name support for a maximum of 32 threads which would confirm 16 core parts as many people have been speculating awesome and that'll be pretty sweet there's a bunch of others that are a bit more obscure that'll let you guys you know check out the article on wucf Tech 4 but that's all for a rise in 3000 news we can move on to an article from the hot hardware this has been circulating the web as of yesterday I believe about Google announcing there's a dia steady daddy daddy I see I didn't watch the actual press event I didn't know this so I don't know how it's pronounced Stadium I would pretend like Stadium so stadia stadia yeah yeah I think so things like the most American way to pronounce that word but they did Haiti but they did have an event so I'm sure they pronounced it there so it's totally impossible it's so they possible we're doing it wrong true study yeah it's a stupid control used by Mario it looks just like a freakin like a like a blue there's a bluetooth like Android PC compatible controller that's like 50 bucks that looks exactly like that yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they just like oh yeah mid or something but it looks really cheap and basic but I mean I don't care so much about how it looks as as compared to how it feels like as long as it feels good it could be the ugliest controller in the world it can be it could be an egg you know but if it if my if my fingers loved it my palms palms are sweaty mom's sphaghetti then I'm I'm all over it ready ready so what's what's what's the deal with this it's a it's a 4k 60fps streaming service that's using Google's servers so you know basically there's all the offloaded processing and they're actually contracting AMD they're doing a partnership with AMD to make custom GPUs for for their servers which is pretty interesting they're saying that the does it have does this article have info on the processor because there was some no there were some questions floating around about that for instance if you look at this this during the presentation it says custom x86 processor and it says hyper threaded which is normally that's an Intel 3 right simultaneous multi-threading of course a lot of people say hyper threading is a generic term for simultaneous multi-threading because it was around for so long before there was anything else yeah but they also say a B X 2 which is terminology that generally you'd hear from AMD Intel would say avx-512 probably so I don't know I I'm only saying this based on some stuff I saw earlier today on Twitter yeah kind of curious about that but if they is providing the GPU then I could see this being something where they're doing a complete hardware solution right who knows but I'm sure we'll find out at some point and I mean it makes sense too because I think Amy's probably already a step closer to doing something like this because they already have chips in like ps4 and Xbox and stuff like that but I suppose we'll find out more details in the future there's also the ability to stream games not just from your TV but like seamlessly transition your game streaming from the TV to a mobile device smartphone tablet any compatible device really it's supposed to be just a really seamless process kind of reminds me of like the Nintendo switch being able to go from one device to another that'd be pretty cool well I mean so that it's we're talking about games running remotely that are being streamed to you yes my GeForce now or so there there have been services like this in the past but we're talking about up to 4k 60 did you already say that I did my I did I mean that's so that's very ambitious that's pretty crazy so that they're doing interesting things here in order to get that level of resolution as well as response time yeah there's a lot there's a lot going on under the hood I think here yeah not that I can explain it any deeper than that I apologize I'm only sort of loosely caught up with this story today yeah well they don't really go into much detail as to how they're able to pull this off it's supposed to I saw something about like it having the response time somehow being better than an Xbox one X or something like that very weird to me yeah that doesn't seem right compute performance sums all right maybe maybe that's there's a magic never never mind what I said there that's I mean that would be silly anyway right maybe I'm just going back to stuff I saw people posting that on Twitter earlier today anyway but anyway um this the sort of platform here is kind of interesting it's it's talking about certain things that I haven't really heard other competing platforms mention yet for for example and a lot of this has to do with Google's own hardware for example you can stream on a chromecast or a pixel device along with along with a Chrome browser if you wanted to so that's kind of interesting you could purchase games straight from a YouTube or twitch stream so I guess if you saw like your favorite streamer playing apex legends there'd be like a click to buy like oh I want to play that game and you can just like buy it straight from it it's free to play ok ok well Jesus let's give an example by the Battle pass or maybe you could click to download started today we'll be discussing that on my half of the show you shameless motherfuckers sorry I was just trying to do it early way to steal my thunder so it's kind of cool I think what's even more interesting is that you could actually like join somebody's game if you will if you're watching someone's stream and of course they're gonna have to like allow permissions for any random person to just join their match but if you happen to be watching your favorite streamer and they're opening it up to like its sub Sunday and you know anyone who's viewing in chat can actually join me in this match this battle royale whatever there's like a single button you can press on this new controller that'll basically allow you to join I'm sorry that's that buttons for if you want to stream yourself so if you if you're wanting to stream but there's gonna be like interactive buttons on like the YouTube player for example or a twitch player that'll let you jump in to a match just in real time which is kind of interesting you can also use a USB controller if you don't like the super rounded one that Google is launching okay well that's all apparently he gives you options it's it's called the Nadia or no no it's named after the same service why can't I read like bad yet stay the speediest ad is study controller so that's that's wireless that's gonna be connecting wirelessly and directly to your current gaming session on Google servers that's via Wi-Fi and it controls actually on screen let's see Google says that a little scale that the platform will scale eventually to 8k 120 FPS but damn you know when they say in the future it could be you years down the line since there aren't many native 8k panels in people's homes right now that's probably yes very forward-looking yeah um the Google's also announced partnerships with some top game engines including unity and real one with collaborations with developer it'd it's software some doom up the neck mmm nice Google will have its own game studio as well study games and entertainment which will produce exclusive titles so there will be exclusive titles to the platform ones that you can't find anywhere else and that that's what exclusive means it's apparently gonna launch this year which is also very ambitious in in the US Canada UK and across Europe okay it's launching in Italy first Italy first because it's so what do you think about this Paul out of the the other services that have popped up similar to this does it sound any more or less promising I mean the 4k 60 I mean so much of it depends really comes down to your personal internet connection Google can set up everything to be super awesome if you have a bad internet connection then you're not gonna have a good experience I wonder what kind of connection you're gonna have to have like what I thought it was 25 megabit didn't it say that I I think you might have read a different article that maybe just know there's quite a bit of discussion of this today okay well maybe this is this is the first this is the only thing I read about it is this one hot heartburn you're probably right and that would also bring into question you know like you people who have data caps and stuff like that which I mean for some people that's an issue for some people not at all so that's that's gonna be a shrew that'll be a question to be answered but yeah I don't know personally I like I like running games on local hardware yet we'll have to see yeah I appreciate what you're doing here but I think it's gonna be like VR where it's like gonna be a cool thing but we're not quite there yet we're not gonna be fully ready for it for another few years eventually it'll probably I think it'll probably take over years and years you know maybe a decade or so down the line but for now it's it's just like still in its infancy but we'll see heroes licking his butthole you didn't looking like for why I've never here oh no started here here Oh here are your being that's gratuitous hero hero you must taste really good do you think very highly of yourself don't you no he's nice embarrassed now he's coming over oh geez uh his name too many times by the way this beer just was a good it's it's supposed to be sour right no it's a red ale that's what I thought peanut alert red ale why is it it's very sour it's very tart oh it's very tert very tart okay almost like a red sour but I'm just I'm hoping that I haven't been drinking like a spoiled beer according to the writing on the back of this uh-huh our founder set out to brew the perfect beer it smells like beer to me it's unique I wouldn't say unique and perfect or synonymous this nutty ale creates a new classic with its smooth and natural peanut rich flavors there's no ifs ands or nuts about it this is it it's just it's sour that's ours our layered you just try a sip hmm is that do you think that's intentional I don't know I'm gonna die beers that are sitter that that are have that kind of flavor you don't they bad do you think I'm safe yeah yeah like a yeah shrug like a hammock man you know I mean I got we've got other beer like why couldn't it why couldn't this have been the beer that I that I worked in my eye you know and wasted half a bottle I'd have to be a nice bottle of blue shimei can always sink into the abyss the abyss the other one was barely bear Allegiant tequila and bourbon barrels peal stet was I was black strap molasses I was good licorice with cherry bark and hold vanilla beans I got that one on Craigslist I feel like we need that's that's that we need to start the show with that and when we drink that yet I feel this beers more dangerous do you want to do it grab your different winning no no I'll finish it alright standard hopefully I always finish what I start Paul including this segment so let's move on now you are next article from tech power up let's get a little hot in here yeah you are I think the beers kicking in it's called after shock after shock Zachary Smith now that it's called peanut alert Peaks I don't like the alert Park noise it's my neighbor oh here's drinking water and my neighbor started to use a saw right at the exact same time it was a really weird sound okay your dog has a soft 1659 tea 16:50 leaked unexpected what a shocker this is actually a leak that comes from a Eurasian Economic Commission filing or eec filing this common place yeah anything happened before but revealed a lot of details about the card that a lot of us excuse me already kind of knew was coming this in particular is featuring an MSI gaming X custom design card and as a picture seems to be that it's not my source is video cards so okay we have a picture of it they have this thing look at that oh look at that this is just others there's where the writing is we're in all the pictures geforce gtx 1650 it's i mean it's like a shipping manifest or something so I added another link but this one there yeah yeah well I don't know if that's the GTX sheriff that's probably over 16 1660 let's just pretend 10 that's the 1650 okay for theatrics the gaming X version the gaming ax version yes so this is gonna be on the 12:00 nanometer tu 117 silicon which is Nvidia smallest based on Turing and we are confirming with the filing here that the cards getting four gigs of memory doesn't say if it's gddr5 I would speculate it is probably four gigs yeah I mean this is probably gonna be targeted at like eSports gamers you know who don't really need a ton of horsepower but are looking for a cheaper card and it's probably gonna compete with anarch's 570 maybe an RX 580 dad that would be pretty cool an RX 580 maybe RX 580 okay I mean maybe I mean maybe maybe if you get overclocked it maybe it gets a little close yeah we'll see it is sub 200 supposed to be sub 200 bucks and the the speculated AMD price drop for the RX 580 is supposed to be $1.99 so the 1660 was $220 so yeah I would you know exact you've got to give it room for the 1650 and then they like the slightly special versions of the 1650 that are like 10 or 20 bucks more without quite being as much as the 1660 maybe 179 buck 79 perhaps one 15999 base price in video that's what I want one $59.99 yeah that's gonna yeah that's if it's gonna compete in arts 570 I would say that's a pretty fair price because they've got our x58 he's going for well below 200 bucks now 171 172 just everywhere so wildfire that would be it would be a very valid competitor again assuming that performance is there if we're talking RX v 7t r RX 580 level performance yeah the the memory would be a severe limitation to anything but beyond 1080 i think but for a lot of people that's okay and yeah it would be crazy more efficient than the RX 580 or five seventy that would be like one of the big benefits there the reason that actually probably that's the that's probably the best reason why this isn't a picture of an actual 1650 is because I yeah or even just for the base model just straight from the PCB or I'm sorry the motherboard the PCIe slot perhaps depending depending on how how efficient we can go late April that's in a month month ish okay that's all that's all for tech news yay we have one more segment on my half and it's an exciting one I like exciting segments Kyle it's interactive too it's ask the audience the audience where we ask you three questions you answer them honestly or it's no or it's not five and then Paul and I have to guess what your answers were and whoever gets the closer answer wins whoever gets the further away answer has to take a drink this is I'm glad we have an ASL translator for all of my words still learning I'm very good pretty sure you got strop hold accurate all right sorry are we asking our audience first question first question here and cell feel free to paste these in chat I lovely moderator sell everyone sell is the best isn't he beautiful thank you look at him look at him strut look at him alright so the first question is what kind of drive does your primary PC boot from so I don't think we've asked this one before so I want to know are people booting from mechanical hard drive still are they using SATA SSDs or have they made the upgrade and put the bullet and gone nvme so there's three options here there's there's quite a few other you know more niche or obscure options that you could potentially boot from but these are the three main ones I would say and the majority of you are probably booting from at least one of these so go ahead and fill that out Paul and I will postulate and so we're just gonna guess which one is the most true do we have to like guess the split I was thinking you could pick one and then guess the percentage think we should guess the split you can guess the split yeah split would be exciting I could double double drinks or nothing something really I'll give me double drinks or nothing right yeah you know we're getting Thai food for dinner Oh God all right so while you guys do that we're gonna go on to the next question give you guys a minute to vote so the next question is very serious who would look prettiest in a dress and I've got a couple of notable youtubers up here okay we've got Paul Kyle Linus Jay Demetri Wendell who would look prettiest in a dress prettiest alright so prettiest could be interpreted I feel like it's been open to interpretation like like who looks the most awful in a dress it can be like the opposite or like who maybe has the most feminine features and would look most natural in a dress you could take it more literally so I guess it's really just up to the audience so that's it's also part of it I said I was thinking more of like a wholesome pretty you know like like like what a pretty dress versus like pretty woman pretty you know follow me here man not quite you lost me a pretty woman nevermind what yes okay evening here's that's a tough call it's a tough call are we gonna every every talkin over the third question yet are we going back to the first I say we go back to the first and then we talk about the third question okay all right so what kind of drive does your okay so you give us a split Paul what you think is the most all right I'm thinking mechanical hard drives still gonna be pretty low but we'll have some representation so I'm gonna get 15% okay to the mechanical hard drive that leaves me a hundred and twenty percent left weigh 120 no I'm sorry my math is I proved last week that my mouth is horrible by being off by a hundred oh my factor of 100 so it's a hundred fifteen percent of the mechanical hard drive okay I'm thinking the majority is gonna be on SATA SSD but you know we have a lot of enlightened viewers so that I think we're gonna have more nvme users than you might expect here okay so I'm gonna give 30% to the nvme I think you know I'm thinking we're just shy of a third okay I have people on that so that leaves 55% for your SATA SSD okay all right I'm gonna switch things up here I'm just gonna go a different direction I'm gonna say I'm gonna say 30% mechanic okay I think 30% mechanical so about a third of you are still on mechanical and then I'm gonna say 10% real quick Dodger Gigi who just posted in chat that when nvme is as cheap as say - he will switch I just want to point out that the the mini build I built back here I used two Intel 660 series nvme SSDs because the price per gigabyte was cheaper than any other standard SATA hard drive it was a hundred and twenty bucks for a one terabyte and it was 220 bucks for the two terabyte this better price per gig for the two terabyte although there's a bunch of it there's I saw at least one a one terabyte SATA SSD for $100 today yeah I've seen so she knows pop those in there it's awesome I'm like oh yeah we finally have really affordable there's a present that happened on an intel SSD - yeah all right so it's it's qlc and so it's not really good like extended writes yeah it's it's still very good SSD and then and you know but better perform measurably better performance no editing but yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't use it um just it's extended rates can be slower yeah alright so I'm gonna say 30% mechanical 15% nvme and then 55% SATA set one more time 30% mechanical 15% nvme and 55% SATA okay that checks out right checks out oh wow oh wow holy crap I was way I you do win one you did you do you do when I was only five percent off with the mechanical that was a little nvme is increasing even more that must be people purchasing that Intel installing I can't believe how many nvme users their data is a mirror a mirror have 51 percent that's not really amazing it's such a this is such an enlightening segment it really is you know you get to learn a little bit about each other alright hey we did say that we were gonna learn something about ourselves we did let's jump to question 3 question 3 remember that real quick I'm also very serious and controversial will actually do you possess the self-control to get option 1 - exactly 68% when Paul and Kyle view the poll results Wow and this is this is like a social experiment it really is it's a social experiment on you guys we want option 1 yes exactly 50% I feel like in this case I can vote sure just wow so we got a hundred percent right now I'm the only person who's right so by the time we go back to this and look at the results it has to be 68 the viewers have to have enough self-control to not push it over is too serious do you know those guys wow that's already all right go back switch back switch em back happening - we can't sir we can't watch it too much ok so now we can go dear faith in you everyone 68 baby don't you dare don't go over 1 but more importantly who would look prettiest in a dress who would look prettiest in a dress me you - Jay Dmitri Windell so they're just gonna we gotta call the winner here right yeah okay and bonus points you can get the percentage close okay like all right I gotta go with my heart here and I gotta say Dmitri and that's P that's purely because I don't know if that's me and I say this in the most like like like I'm married and about to have a kid way possible Dimitri's he's a good-looking guy yes he's a good-looking guy he's fit and he's in shape that's another I think that's another factor there I was gonna say I was gonna say lightest cuz - you know he's he plays his badminton badminton this is squash or whatever he plays you drop a ball too much yeah I'm gonna go to me tree yeah yeah he's 13 pretty good 29% of the vote I guess yeah I'm - me tree looks pretty all the time no matter what he's wearing so okay I'm [Laughter] alright not that there's anything wrong no no absolutely not I am gonna say I'm gonna say J I think J would look prettiest in a dress because you know there's been that trend lately where a lot of like girls women are like dyeing their hair like silver or like almost bleach white J already has that like he like set that trend so he already kind of has the trendy hairs kind of very fashionable he has very defined jaw bone structure in his face it's true I think just like a model like he's got that chiseled jawline and he's been working out - I know he's been working out he's lost a lot of weight and he's looking good I think he would own it - literally he would totally come see you're doing the J face attitude you have to be confident with that sort of thing so I wasn't man but then I digress [Laughter] what's your percentage results - Wow 50% oh my god damn people just want to see you lioness in a dress he's you're all sick he's very live live that's that's the word I was gonna use you very live live a life LOL i th e i think that's the right word I'm thinking of right I don't even know what that means okay I know I've heard it I just don't member supple and graceful vocabulary live that is true chat - his voice really would sell the dress yeah I have to agree limber nimble deft spry flexible plant okay and finally so wait who wins who wins there so I said Dmitri with 29% he's at 12 and I said Jay with he said to you yeah drink up buddy juice and then our last question which is more of an experiment is were you guys able to get option 1 - exactly 68% or did you fail like the worthless suckers you are we're drinking this we're going for it all right all right this is basically yes you think yes or no or no they won't get it all right you knew first I'm gonna say yes I have faith I have faith in the audience I think you know the the forces of K I think the forces of order will overcome the forces of chaos okay in this in the circumstance well then you have forced me to have zero faith in our in our audience and I will say no they definitely didn't pull it off every chat here comes oh I thought it was gonna be like at least a percent or two off yeah I mean an chat people are still fighting though I see votes coming in the battle was waging still you know and maybe in the future valiant perhaps in the future maybe this is just something that time you know we'll revisit because you didn't say that in the title do you possess that the wind pollen category they're mine everything I did all factors were were accounted for so nice track Johnny lose Gigi okay that concludes my half of the show my shitty half guys I thought it was good my thank you Paul okay don't go anywhere though Paul's half is up next we got a lot more juicy stuff to talk about it's gonna be great it's gonna be fun and feel free to do timestamps please if you're so inclined I'm looking for your everyday tech you changed his name to his real oh this is yeah what is this relay maybe he wants the notoriety like stop referring to me I want to be known I want the power and fame so thank you every day tech because I don't know your real name yet I'll be looking out for it you'll see it you'll see it to tomorrow or later today when you go to do time stamps maybe yeah okay we'll be right back guys thanks