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from either of our stores yep we also like to have a few drinks on the show as you might have already seen and we occasionally use our language as I demonstrated earlier that was an accent I don't usually start every show every street with a deaf pop but it does happen so if you have the little ones around sensitive ears you weren't Cheers oh that's good belching beaver peanut butter milk step this is gonna go really good with what the cookies you made oh yeah I can't wait to try that combo perfect pair alright let's just dive in here our first article is from WCC F Tech it was good they've always got the fun big headlines not quick beauty at all this is about Intel's 10th gen comment Lake CPUs 10th there's been a whole lineup the whole lineup has been has been leaked as far as specs the names prices all that stuff really and I really hate the naming scheme if this is true please hello the ten nine hundred the how are you gonna say f the core I nine ten nine hundred calf that's horrible quarry nine ten thousand nine hundred like it just looks it looks bad it sounds bad we could have a whole half a show just just on the terrible naming scheme there's too many zeros and they're not evenly distributed yeah there's too many numbers yeah it's starting to look like an old Lee and Lee case yeah you know just no no good marketing there but let's let's talk about the actual meat of this article here we've got 13 different SKUs that just had their specs leaked that's the whole friggin family 13 of these 14 nanometer now plus plus plus CPUs because Intel is still working on their 10 nanometer chips that should be available later this year from what we've been told but we'll see if wait these are what yeah this is 10th gen gen comment Lake which would have been so nice 14 then which would have been great to have like their 10th gen be the 10 nanometer like I felt like after after how much effort AMD put into like having sentiment 7 nanometre launched on July 7 thing Kevin said he got real match he match they got super matchy-matchy and Intel's just like you know flips the table we don't give an F where we're gonna be 10th gen but still 14 animator I'll be it with three pluses after it which is just starting to get a little silly but we have let's talk about the chips here we've got flagship core i9 parts that are rocking 10 cores and 20 threats okay it was pretty expected that they would raise the core count wasn't very sure wasn't very certain to how much if they would be matching AMD's now flagship 12 core and in a couple months or in a month or two there's 16 core doesn't look like Intel's gonna be very close to that at all but 10 cores 20 threads is still somewhat of a leg up over 8 cores and 16 threads which is their existing 9900 k spec these are gonna start these core i9 parts are gonna start at four hundred and nine dollars all the way up to $4.99 which is kind of surprising because right now the 9900 K is it was well over 500 dollars when it first launched now we're getting to more cores and four more threads on these core and nine parts but they're gonna be around this around the same price for one of their eight core 16 thread parts it's almost as if they're lowering their prices to stay competitive with the competition which is a good thing I guess we should be happy about this they're also gonna have two core i7s to you oh the other thing to point out here is that they're gonna have multiple core i9 parts not just a single flagship on their mainstream side I'm so instead of just that one we've got at least two there's gonna be two core i7 skews rocking eight cores and 16 threads which is what Intel's currently highest flagship mainstream chip is rockin but these are gonna be priced anywhere between three hundred and thirty nine and three hundred and eighty nine dollars which is also pretty competitively priced compared to what Intel has launched their eight core 16 thread CPUs for in the past and even currently we also have Core i5 chips with a six core 12 thread setup and these are gonna start at one hundred and seventy nine dollars going up to two hundred and sixty nine these prices are similar to the existing core i5s that we that we have now like the you know like the 9600 K for example but these are gonna support hyper threading again this is a really it seems like they're really trying to compete with AMD here with with AMD having all their CPUs regardless of tear supporting simultaneous multi-threading for the most part whereas Intel is traditionally not really had that feature available unless it was on their more premium high-end products so now we're starting to see that that sort of feature set trickle down to their lower end CPUs on the Intel side core i3 SKUs are gonna be starting at $129 going up to 179 these are gonna be parted out with a fork or eight thread configuration so even their core i3 s it seems like all their core a threes will be hyper threaded huh and bear in mind that a four core eight thread part from Intel retailed for over three hundred dollars just a few generations ago Wow and now we're gonna see him on core i3 s4 as well as 129 bucks it's almost like they could have put hyper threading on all their CPUs at any time the whole and and yeah all they needed was some competition all they did was it so we have some more details specifically about the flagship parts in each of these categories so for the core I 9 as we sort of thick heard about or just complained about in the title they're the quarry nine ten nine hundred KF I still don't know if I should say ten nine hundred or ten thousand nine hundred or the 109 hundred it just that alone is a problem it's still you don't even know how to say it but it's gonna be the rumored flagship it's the rumored flagship currently going up against the Rison 930 900 X which has 12 cores and 24 threads is it was there any I sorry if I missed it but was there explanation in this article as to where this information came from or like like how oh yeah computer base computer base got it from a Chinese base tech forum okay that was the original source which though the Chinese forms are usually pretty accurate with the leaks not always still grain of salt but a lot of the ones that I've been hearing recently I'm like oh I guess that turned out to be true that doesn't mean that they're all true of course grain of salt all around but or you could look at it like Oh big like what a surprise immediately after and these stuff launches like an intentional leak this information just happens to slip out right right yeah maybe maybe like this the China team of Intel just like doesn't care they don't care like they're the like they're like the myth the mischievous the mischievous branch of Intel or they're like they're in charge of like sabotaging their own launches to you know build to generate hype it'll build the Hydra hype train I know we're not doing sorry fed on this but I'm gonna go with fake this is yeah I just not announce the treat not a lick of truth here such horrible names like some of the yeah I hope some of the skews look out look okay I mean if they really are launching a full lineup of on 14 nanometer still this year prior to like alright is 10 nanometer coming out like how how other these launches gonna have to be knowing knowing that AMD is already there was seven nanometer which is very competitive and knowing that Intel has been working on 10 nanometer for so long like how how can they possibly even drum up very much enthusiasm or public interest in ring and launch like this maybe they're just going for it because they've invested enough time into its development that they've gotta launch something right but I'm just really these names are horrible usually they they're intelligent enough to I mean well they'll be right there there is a historic like like for for numbers you can't go past for numbers you can't like Golden Rule yeah fun with members or whatever you can get up to four numbers but you gotta five numbers there's just too many you it usually always resets back to three or something like right AMD and NVIDIA go back and forth but between like the one of them's on the 600 series 700 series whatever right and 500 hey okay no yeah yeah you're totally right about that Paul I do hope that some of the information in this article is false all of it but we'll just have to wait and see this is all we have for now you know it's definitely it definitely raises an eyebrow that you know it's possible to that you know even though it seems a little bit suspicious that this would surface right after the the big AMD launches that maybe it's also a good reason for people to just create fake news you know because they know they'll be a lot of hype on both sides a lot of interest on both sides of the competition but moving on here we have based on boos clocks of that core i9 part I'm not even gonna address it by name I'm just too frustrated three point four and five point two gigahertz so that's a 200 megahertz boost over a higher of a boost single core boost than the existing 99 hundred K so potentially you might be able to overclock to five point two gigahertz on all cores it doesn't necessarily mean that and I say that because a lot of people have been speculating this is sort of a digression here but that you'd be able to overclock the 3900 x2 4.6 gigahertz on all cores simply because it has a single core boost to four point six figures I saw this on being addressed with like hardware inboxed and Steve and gamers Nexus for chiming in on Twitter just trying to like clear up any confusion because people just had this idea in their minds that oh a single core boost means that generally means that you can do an all core Manuel overclocked to that same speed case it's been true with some chips in the past yes some some some cases it's a it's a pattern but it's not it's not consistent certainly not with any of them these recent nothing on rising yeah right behave that way so there's there's that it's gonna have a 105 watt TDP but remember that Intel's tvp's are typically only referring to their base clock power consumption and necessarily any other boosts so take that with a grain of salt it's gonna have 20 megabytes of cash we're gonna have a core i7 flagship the 10 700 K which is an 8 core 16 thread part equally terrible naming competes against the resin 730 800 X which is also an 8 core 16 thread part it's gonna have a 3.6 gigahertz base and 5.1 gigahertz boost sixteen megabytes of cash at three hundred and eighty nine dollar price this is not a ksq so it does have this is 339 okay about ten 700 K oh okay sorry is it three three 339 that or the article says something different than the church weird because it also says that the flagship parts are the i7 skis will go up to 389 and then it calls this 10 700 K the flagship core i7 but the charts wrong with the articles wrong 389 that would be a lot closer to the eye 9 10 800 F which I'm very excited about personally wait does the non k ones mean they're not gonna be overclockable again they're stupid the non K ones yeah I think so yeah right so you could probably get a cheaper motherboard with it or something it's totally different system and then we've got Core i5 10 600 K which is the flagship Core i5 6 core 12 threads which is gonna compete with the horizon 5:30 600 X and that's gonna have a 3.7 and 4.9 gigahertz base in news cloth respectively with 12 megabytes of cash there's also a core i5 10 406 scored 12 thread for $179 which is gonna be cheaper than the risin 530 600 that's kind of interesting and then the core i3 1030 104 core 8 thread part boosting up to 4 point 4 gigahertz with also a price of 179 which is the same price as the core i5 that I just mentioned so that it'll be interesting to see how that plays out there's some really odd looking specs on this chart that verify at a later time if it's all much there's also rumored to be a new LGA 11:59 platform required for 10th gen so sorry to all of you LGA 1151 motherboard owners Intel does not think that you should have a scalable platform and that you can make an investment in a motherboard and still continue to use that board over multiple generations of CPU releases no you must upgrade both by the CPU and and the motherboard which is gonna be a pain in the ass if you already have a system built and you want to swap out your board it's literally connected to everything in your system but that says the Intel wet or at least it has been for quite some time now it doesn't seem to be changing much new chipset it's probably gonna mean the new chipset as well z4 90 it's not an official name or anything again this is all rumor or speculation great assault but at least z4 90 would be less terrified or terrible than core ID 9 10 10 900 KF yes apparently this this platform is gonna be adding native support to to the board to the platform for ddr4 3200 speed memory versus the existing 2666 speeds that it's currently natively supporting so that's fun chat no why don't I see chat kind of saying it's fake here is length they are giving us there quite a few people in chat saying it's fake ok so what is this is this the this is the truth this is the fake chart I don't know I don't I don't usually just click on random links in chat no no no this is from this is from sell o sell put that yeah alright well then he if so put it there than it's obvious he'll say if he doesn't have irises ok well if it's fake its fake probably definitely not the first time we've talked about fake news on this on the show but from what from everything I'm reading so far I'm actually kind of relieved and I that it's faked and I and I hope it is and I hope that we get 10 nanometer CPUs from Intel as the next launch I think we're all pretty sick of 14 enemy here at this point that's been years but let's move on then to hopefully some more real news though enemies confirmed that custom rx 5700 series GPUs are coming next month whoo yeah it's from hardware this was through an official AMD tweet which is not listed on this article but I'm sure it's real I don't need to verify that of course mid-august is apparently when the first question is what the answer according to AMD with a link that you would expect to be the link to AMD make yeah that's but no search of hot hardware with your AMD tag right cuz that hardware god forbid you link off of your website people just get so worried about that okay okay all right so mid-august that's uh just about a month away now month month in a week so that's exciting because from what we've been hearing from like guys like gamers Nexus and other reviewers who hear reddit all right there's a via link at the bottom okay the stock coolers on these Nabi cards Navi cards is not they're not the best they're loud they're hot and of course aims really good all right Herc woman posted it unread it o is on reddit yeah okay yeah we gotta know why I don't know wizened this is why people watch our shows because it's the live investigative journalism that we do yeah just bringing you the information as we read it so this is kind of exciting like I said that the stock colors are pretty pretty garbage no one no one should buy them and also you're gonna get not only better cooling and better noise profiles with these custom cards but potentially better power delivery as well it could actually perform better and give you a couple extra frames there for your dollar and usually for a couple extra dollars yeah I was gonna say yeah though they might be a little bit more expensive but I think it'd be worth it for sure unless you buy one of the reference designs and slap your own kind of cooler on there whether it be like one of those NZXT add-ons or something similar I've been seeing a lot of people throwing on like like r9 290 and r9 390x coolers on on these 5,700 cards I really and actually it bolts up pretty pretty nicely hmm turns out similar similar board design yeah so you can try that too what if you don't want to mess around with that business custom cards are on the way they should be here soon speaking of there is uh there's been some leaks from from MSI I don't know if it's from in a side of this the slides are from the other side there's some new MSI slides that reveal product stack for custom rx 5700 of series cards two on the XT side we've got the gaming X the Evoque OC the mech o sea and the air boost from the nan XT 5700 cards we've got the gaming X Necco sea and air Buddhists so there's a bit of a there's another slide here that talks about the the mech or at least there's a quote from it from MSI that was probably from the slide that says if the mech the mech series is pretty much just focusing on the essentials so it's gonna be more value oriented they're obviously not focusing on how to spell focus yeah focuses focuses focuses okay sorry yeah please continue cap yeah so it's gonna be more of like you know just the basics it's the GPU for the basin that has the basics it's probably gonna perform just fine probably better than reference however its it's not gonna have a bunch of bells and whistles on it it's gonna come in at a lower price then a lot of the other custom cards perhaps if I'm down yeah it should run cooler with its dual fan design it should be a lot quieter as well than a one of the blower fan fans blower designs from AMD don't have much information other than that but well yeah this is I think this is the first custom bored we've seen for 5700 series have you seen any others no see the lot of super but oh yeah he's a super just like all of the special designs of the 20 that the RTX 2017 2060 that they already have they're just gonna swap over to the supers yeah yeah yeah fewer brand new designs for that series alright so one one last story here about the Ark 5700 series cards is an article from overclocked 3d confirming that these these GPUs will lack crossfire support now and the question right after that is does anyone care so I guess this is just sort of a reminder that multi-gpu configurations and just that whole thing is kind of in the toilet multi-gpu configs have been in the toilet for quite some time now for a number of multitude of reasons performance hasn't been consistent and it's very unreliable there there isn't a whole lot of support that developers are dumping into multi-gpu setups for their games such configurations can have much higher noise and thermal thermal results which is not good a single GPU is almost always faster all right I'm sorry almost always a better option than to smaller GPUs this is something that we've been saying for years and you can tell we've just been seeing a huge decline in multi GPU support I think it was with the GTX 10 series that the Pascal that they stopped doing SLI on what was it like any car any of the the more entry-level or mid-range cards the key was only reserved for the GTX 1070 and 1080 think that's also when they cut support for 3 & 4 way and they said yeah right just gonna focus on two-way yep exactly and now it's like then even two ways I feel like the only benefit to 2a or for any multi-gpu config now is is that it looks cool like it looks more peacefully when you've got two GPUs and you're in your your system especially if you're water-cooling them you know it's it's like an O and AH it's kind of like a shock effect shocking awful thing since here came to show P explicit and we'll play GPU mode for Vulcan under the x12 yeah there are some rare instances where the game developer will allow it just simply through more of a feature those api's yeah right of the api's but it's pretty rare it's pretty rare that you actually see that and I don't feel like the performance there is also it has been very inconsistent so that's all to say that crossfire sucks no one cares that it won't be here for for this generation oh jeez let's move on to the last story for that I have today this is about gue Bauer he posted the video you should all subscribe to do Bauer's YouTube channel he does a lot of good stuff there and he did a bunch of tests on X 570 the chipset specifically to find out why does it consume so much power why is the TDP of this brand new chipset more than double what its predecessor X 470 was well when he was walking around copy text the show floor of copy Tex this year he was told by a number of vendors as as was I that the reason for the extreme power consumption on X 570 was due to PCIe Gen 4 and that it just required more juice to power those those higher end devices with more bandwidth but in his testing he found that that wasn't really the case he stressed multiple PCIe gen 4 devices simultaneously so if you look at the blue the blue the blue graphs there that's x4 70 you've got idle with no devices connected and then with one nvme drive connected and then one nvme drive under load and so yeah it consumes a bit more power under load of course but then when you look at the yellow graphs the yellow bars and he did the same test you can obviously that when it's idling x5 70 consumes a lot more power at idle than x4 70 it's just it just starts at a higher base but from there from that point it doesn't really consume that much more power when you have a PCI agent for device being stressed at full load so he couldn't really determine it looks like the PC a Gen 4 SSD that he was stressing here didn't really consume all that much more power than the PCI gen3 device did on X 470 so he's kind of baffled here and doesn't really have a reason or he can't pinpoint why the chips that requires so much extra power and this kind of makes it a bit baffling as to why almost every single X 570 motherboard has an active cooling solution on it with with a little little tiny fan and you know that you know usually has a couple heat pipes that go to the rest of the vrm and he's a big focus on active cooling on these boards but in der Bauer's experience he actually had multiple devices being stressed simultaneously and he even swapped out the the active fan active cooling solution for a little tiny passive heatsink and after all of his testing his temps his temperatures peaked at just 74 degrees Celsius so it didn't seem like he was overheating the chipset even despite there being little to no air flow and and and passive cooling it's kinda interesting that I'm kind of triggered that he doesn't have his MDOT to drive oh well no wonder it wasn't consuming much power he didn't install it right yeah he's a pro overclocker but he doesn't auto can affect address doesn't mean he knows how to build a PC that's a verge probably there's a virgin joke in there somewhere I have two thoughts about this one well as I thought I to have two thoughts two thoughts one is it aim the aim he told us that the the tags they using for the chipsets are the same ones that's the IO die and the Verizon 3000 chips themselves you've got either one or two little chip --let's with the CPU cores on them then you have an i/o a die that's either 12 or 14 nanometer manufacturing process built they were never a hundred percent clear about that so I like I don't know how far like how the development process goes at what point they decided they were going to use the same chip for both like hey we've but it could be they designed it to go on to be the i/o die for the CPU which is gonna have a heat spreader over it over it with a cooler in which point like having oh well a slightly higher TDP for a chipset not a big slightly higher TDP for a chip like that not a big deal because it's gonna have plenty of cooling on it and then at some point like oh we could save XYZ development time or whatever by reusing that for the chipset on the motherboard as well mm-hmm but we have to deal with the high o so maybe maybe that has something to do with it so like they thought it was gonna consume more power than it really did just because they reported no just that it was originally designed to be to be with a couple chip 'lets on a substrate on a on a CPU uh-huh that's gonna have cooling on it that was the original intent for the design for that for that chip right and then they at some point realized oh we could use that for the chipset as well yeah went forward with that but the the fault you know the downside to it was it had to have active cooling right and then potential answer to why it needs active cooling even though tabara has tested it was passive cooling and it didn't get that hot and this is just me remembering back to remember the p67 chipset recall that Intel originally had back in when Sandy Bridge first launch launched and it was because of the state of the SATA controller that was part of the chipset peripheral controller hub and that they discovered would basically wear out over time is because of the traces and I think it I think it was a heat issue there as well so I guess what I'm saying is maybe those maybe those two are somehow related I'm not I'm not speaking very well maybe those two are so no more than two not spall know they're two thoughts it's two just two made up of many other thoughts but the fact that there has to be active cooling on it is probably for like edge case scenarios most of the time it's not gonna get hot enough to require cooling but if it ever does if it ever has the potential to then they have to build all the boards with the capability of handling that situation yeah which makes sense if if a m4 is the scalable platform that people could be using for generations right eventually you might be slotting in a really high-end PCIe gen for supported GPU and maybe somehow they've done some kind of testing to emulate that and realize oh with an actual graphics card that's PTA Gen 4 that can you know utilize this bandwidth it does get really hot and they have to prepare for that worst-case scenario look at my screen or something no I was reading chat sorry oh yeah a lot of porn bots thanks honey thanks Alfred yeah kicking those porn BOTS to the curb porn BOTS you porn BOTS making my life more difficult yeah but whatever the case I'm sure there's gonna be a bunch of other testing on on this on this topic and it'll be interesting to see what comes if 15 years ago like like a witch had come and told you like in 15 years you'll be like surrounded by porn BOTS what would you have thought wow that sounds great I've seen Austin Powers I know never what all right on that note let's Alice let's shuffle over to Pitt my piece yeah because I owe you guys we didn't get around to doing it two weeks ago and we initially plan because my stream system at the time was blue screening unexpectedly oh yeah which has been resolved by now but I felt really bad that I didn't get around to it so this time we're gonna do some submissions thank you guys for submitting all your your rigs they're all terrible which is uh which is why they're here now so the first one is Bryson Bryson II risin 526 hundred with an RX 580 640 gig SSD 16 gigs of RAM I don't know what PSU and the best case ever made Oh Merry Christmas is that a sin T sin T it's a sin T what's the sin T it's there I don't know if they're still around it's got these old-school optical drive holders I've seen these like these little plastic things yeah and I hate them yeah thank you really I could not tell you what case this is but it is it really sin T is it Oh someone said sin T but there's a s en te y yeah did you recognize it as I sin T or to deserve askew Sanjay no they just said the Cintiq aces I remember not thinking much of and I had that black and red thing and I feel like they might have used these type of optical drive one Chet did say senti so maybe you're right about that yeah I don't I don't know if that's the best case ever made I would I would challenge that but at any rate it looks like your cable management could use some help if this really was the best case ever paced thank you you'd probably be able to route that eight pin CPU cable behind the motherboard tray yeah but it doesn't even look like you have like a cutout at the top left of your case for that sort of thing so this seems spot a DIY PC solar mr1 I totally believe I'm physics at pirate so that's really the garden is very garbage PC manufacturer case manufacturer I remember having to do PC DIY cases reviews and videos at Newegg haha because you know they they they paid for the video to be done and it'd be like you're gonna like draw straws horrendously made like just cheapest possible construction like setups for for mining rigs this cuz it's alright first of my young craze right and it was just like why why would anyone pay for this it's it's it's a bad product right from the get-go if you're garbage and it's like anyone who's mining is spending as little money as possible no one wants to buy a specialized mining crate mining case because they're using milk crates to prop the graphics cards in or whatever so anyway yeah pretty tangent but at any rate you should probably burn it give new cases we're in the hole get a new case again eh okay you have a 2600 do you have good specs here yes core specs are great focus on aesthetics then in that case get a newer case get some nice power supply cables whether it's a new power supply with just flat black cables if you want to save some money or you can buy some extensions you get a case where you can put mount your SSD yeah somewhere out on the floor would be proud Andy that must be your super affordable dust particles alongside it I'm sure your CPU tips are fine because 2600 is a fairly cool running chip but I don't know I think sorry Chad I should have warned you guys before I zoomed in on it like this like why just look at the key oh man look at that look at the 8-pin looking at it up close even worse that's really bad yeah and why rebuild and also yeah I would I would make your CPU cooler vertical not horizontal I just have a thing with putting the the CPU cooler the heat sink fan right now right over your GP right now the cooler master logo is is facing the right is I guess you get over that yeah yeah that's less of an issue to me I would agree vertical is more common but there's plenty of space here I don't think that's really causing a major problem this is pushing air up not down depends on how hot that you get in your case and power supply and rebuild the system do it do it now good thanks Grayson Dakota Dakota Duke or Dakota wise to put a wise rise in 1600 issues X 370 Prime Pro a dual RT x 2060 that's an Asus dual not two of them six 16 gigs of teen dark memory two terabyte Barracuda three and a half drive and define are six case ok interesting we have an RT X 2060 and a 1600 you might be able to get a little more performance out of that card with like a faster faster CPU but that's ok it's still gonna be great performance very clean system actually I feel like cable management is pretty good like you're like 90% there I feel like the some of the cables like the you I think is that USB 3 at the top that's going into that large grommet looks a little funky because it's just in front of everything yeah and then there's also some cables at the bottom just over the power supply shroud that oh that's also the USB 3 that could be just tidied up maybe like tucked away a little bit tighter that's not just hanging out there everything else looks really good obviously I think power supply extensions would go a long way here even though they are black do not quite this classy and that's pretty much it if you want to get super picky you could rotate your fractal fan so that's a little little snowflake logo it's the same on both of them yep that's minor though and maybe consider something for your dad for your SSD and we'll SSD drive there it's it's got some blue and some green standing out oh yeah doesn't jive with the rest of the building yeah other than that yeah I like Cal said the cable management is good yeah it's good it's honestly perfectly fine anywhere else but I'm putting my PC where we critique things like this but it could be better so so rebuild your whole damn computer burn it to the ground throw it in the trash no don't do that thank you thank you - good we have William William by 1600 the first saw this name was William Williamson 16 xh6 te AO 16 gigs GT X 1080 windforce from gigabyte asus rog strix be 350f motherboard and we have some ll series fans and we have some other stuff ok a lot of ll series fans that did not come cheap that's probably well over a hundred bucks worth of fans there they're all l series fans Oh at least the three of them are oh no three-hour wait ok he just got one 3-pack then but that's still like 100 bucks yes I have to remind myself for that every time I'm using them yeah because of course they're just sent them to me oh I know so they are so nice and that's such a mixture their days they're so nice much the fans in Riptide cussed dude probably like $300 no like 600 like blue like yes that's more than some people's pcs there's 8 you privilege there's eight hundred and forty millimeter ones oh my god at the you know on the top Brad one two three four five six and then two you know at the back of my pistol you 120s and then there's however many eyes front yeah it's ridiculous okay um so an 18 fans in there man yeah I like the TIE fighter down at the bottom going to the TIE fighter we also have an interesting cable for your graphics card is that purple or is it just the lighting on the camera what's good yeah that's kind of interesting weird in the in the dark picture it looks black but that's a dark picture yeah any right it should all be black you know same same sort of deal here relieved extensions your cable management is actually pretty good I don't really have too many complaints here yeah I feel like there's a cable that is running down from where your GPU is that's I think it's a daisy chain there because maybe it's maybe an eight plus eight which yeah that's that's because all the risks to kale management is so clean that stands out as as the the more than noticeable part yeah I don't know maybe a tiny bit down here at the bottom with the cables from your fans could be cleaned up again that's just cuz everything else is so clean elsewhere good job overall I would say um good looking build nice RGB is a little I mean it's just an aesthetic thing you know like here you've got white in the front and then the RGB inside right maybe that's okay maybe that's fine I don't know I I would personally I know it's ridiculous because we just talked about how expensive these fans are but I would save up for another 3000 order and match them all it would look really nice it does give you a wide variety of options for color Matt you know yeah I I've been enjoying doing these seasonal colors for arctic panther back here mhm you know mm-hmm changes with the seasons so what I did with the the scent of the old offices I didn't purchase my own okay thank you very much William Williamson we have Jack Jack the Richards r5 2600 with the cooler master master liquid 240 gigabyte Morris x4 70 gaming 7 Wi-Fi the GTX 1080 gaming g1 from gigabyte and it looks like we have 32 gigs of Corsair Vengeance RGB at 3000 with ally and Lee 1110 heck those are 16 gig sticks and ease Paul's mind yes it is on my desk thank you always important that does that does ease my mind all right so you got 32 gigs usually got 16 gig sticks with the 2600 I know running at 3000 that's a nice can I set up there though series fans as well very nice it looks like you don't have any or that okay that is your intake and then you've got the exhaust going with your AI oh but that's how you're supposed to do it no I just yes true you could you could add more fans at the bottom if you wanted to I feel like feel like that might help GPU temperatures a little bit not that you would need it I mean that's a really good cooler on that cart I've tested it temps are pretty chilly already I think that cable management needs a little bit of help towards the top of the case it just looks like you've got maybe a fan cable going all the way across it's just like all the way across I don't know if there's any way to hide that it's really obvious because it's a white interior and you've got black cases so it stands out like a sore thumb but part than that I feel like at this point you should also go with matching fans for your eao like get to more l-series fans put them on AI oh I appreciate their Risha I actually feel like your cable management is better on this side then then on the nice big plate yeah kind of like the dude two or three rigs ago like cable management's good but it could could be you're gonna be better you're 90% there you're very close nice rig overall though I like I like your choices I like the I like the color scheme you've gone with with the RGB lights and all I would I would definitely get some like I don't know cuz your specs are already pretty strong like I would get some nice like black and orange cable maybe to match like the existing scheme epic yeah that would with your motherboard and that we obviously team it up real nice yeah that'd actually be really similar to the all Asus build that I did which was in the black was that in the Thor what-what-what cases use or not the Thor the Helios did not I thought I thought I used doing all ice you spilled no I know I did one in always know what cases nevermind ignore everything I say at the live show yeah I take I take no responsibility for it you know it was okay now I know I'm confused it was cuz it was in the air is the PCO 11 air oh not the dynamic weird yes you 11 air yes that's the same design in every that's got the mesh kind of plastic front uh-huh it's like vertical it looks kind of like that in star and in Star Wars that the little the sand people ride around in that's that's a racist term Paul and I would be very if you never used it again not the same day very triggered right now not the same people the there is again you're just doing here this the Jawas yes the jealous exactly the jealous I wasn't talking about the sand people I with javis and it's the sand crawler that's mean side it's the same curly I think time Chad knows exactly what I'm talking about yeah they're correcting you they're saying Jawa can you call them by their proper names and not refer to them as you know what the s word it's in the movie I didn't using that as doesn't have a black male it's in the bag yeah you know there's a lot of things in movies I mean we could use them daily basis to descend people are frightened for now but they'll be back soon and in greater numbers they're not a hive mind okay let's get irate the Tusken Raiders okay all right I'm looking at the air now okay oh this case yes it's the same exact right there I just never how did you forget about air no I forgot nothing okay you know all right so one more we have Muddy Waters be 350 bores in 1800 X Thank You Shawn 32 gigs once again and of course your rented Tramp em aside Vega 56 with 64 BIOS and we have in win 101 white ATX case with a bunch of 120 millimeter blue LED case fans from up evia a PBF all right well it's pretty cool take a look yeah those fans look nice I'd like to see two more of those maybe one at the rear and one on your seat people or you could just get a brand new CPU cooler that I don't know would be better for your 1,800 X because that one looks a little dinky I know that deep cool cooler it's it's very basic very entry level and put that on the rise in five but I don't know about a an X Q flagship Rison chip it is standing because the rest this build is super clean yeah I like I like how it's looking I like the blue I like just MSI logo standing out in the red there that is standing out as sort of the more budget part even though you know something you know this isn't necessarily super high-end you got an a/b 350 pro 4 motherboard and stuff but yeah it's one of those cool in win cases that you look at and like oh that's kind of different yeah but yeah I'd like you to value cases I can't complain about your cable management it's it's pretty solid all around yeah possibly could do with the some better solution for your GPU power cables I think you're dealing with a daisy-chain situation there but it's minor it's not standing out too bad yeah the cable the cable from this rear exhaust fan that's horrible fix that gotta fix that the whole bill I don't know what else sure anything else to say no all right good thank you guys well that's John bet was Pitt my PC and that is also the end of my half awesome hardware so don't go anywhere we're gonna switch over to Paul's half right a link in the description to my YouTube video or you can go to his channel Paul's hardware and just stay where you are if you're on Twitch because this keeps name in there yes we right well we were back ok right