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Is it better to have a THICKER radiator or PUSH/PULL??

2017-05-10
what's up guys this is going to be another video with me behind the camera so my apologies you know get to see my beautiful face today but we are to be doing an interesting test or at least I think it is comparing two different AO configurations because the H ATI b2 from Corsair and as well as there are there h-60 now these are both rockin identical pumps I checked with the manufacturer themselves running at the same operational speed of around 4,300 RPM on the pump of course they're rockin the same fans those kind of SP looking fans alright the same fans come out of the box the tubing thickness seems pretty identical and really the main differences between these two units are the radiator thickness with the H ATI being quite a bit fattier and also the the fan number the number of fans included the H Adi comes with two fans you can do a push-pull with that guy but the h-60 only comes with one fan then why do I have two fans on the h6 day well I'm glad you asked actually we're going to be doing something a little bit different instead of running these these coolers just stock how they come out of the box I thought it'd be interesting to do a little experiment to see if radiator thickness is better than having multiple fans interesting right especially with okay so here's here's my here's my theory actually I measured this this this setup right here with the H ad with one fan it is actually only two millimeters thicker then the h-60 in push-pull they're about the same thickness so especially how small form-factor builds have become just ridiculously popular in recent years and especially with small form-factor Cassie's giving more support for liquid cooled a iOS particularly the 120 millimeter variants seem to be very popular in these types of cases so these might be two potential options that use small that you mini ITX builders I didn't call you small builders I didn't mean that might be interested in so which one which one do you go for if you only had about 75 millimeters of clearance in your small form-factor case do you go with a thicker radiator Rock and one fan or do you go with a thinner radiator with two I don't know I also thought this video was good timing since we are going to be seeing some a m4 mini ITX boards for Rison come in soon you could say there on the horizon has that Joe got an old yet I'm sure but another thing to consider here is that at the time of filming the h ati is 20 bucks more expensive than the h-60 alright its 85 bucks versus 65 bucks but if you're going to run either of these setups I mean this already comes with 2 fans yeah I mean you're only going to use one so you kind of have one fan that you just you got a spare you know whatever do with it as you will but with age 60 to run push Bowl you need to get a second fan which would cost you about 15 to 20 bucks if you're getting something identical or very similar to the included Corsair fan so that pretty much puts both of these solutions at around the same price point of 80 to 85 bucks they're about the same thickness but which one cools the best that's really what we want to know and of course you have to consider that noise emissions from having two fans are going to output they're going to be a little bit higher than having one fan speaking of which all the fans in today's testing will be running at 100% fan speed but before we take a look at the actual temperatures and quickly go over the testing hardware here so we've got an Intel Core i5 7600 K that I've overclocked a four point eight gigahertz at one point three volts on the vcore running stable it's a 264 running in the background for about half an hour now so I would I would call that stable enough for this test we've got 16 gigs of g.skill tried NZ ddr4 3200 on an MSI Z 270 gaming Pro carbon motherboard over here okay Corsair ax 1200 eye power supply get that out of the way I've got a gtx 1070 I'm sorry 1080 Ti that's necessary for this test founders Edition running its stock speeds and a one terabyte Rd 400 Toshiba OCZ alright SSD and dot 2 whatever alright let's put a load on this sucker and see what she's made of alright y'all so as I continue my rambling please pay attention to the current package temps of both of our setups here a quick disclaimer I initially wanted to drop some real-time commentary as I was running these tests but as it turns out having our corsair fan spinning at 100% fan speed picks up on my microphone way too much so here I am stuck doing this half-assed voiceover but what else is new at least we can still take a look at the data together by the power of post-production the readouts that you're seeing right here are a real-time response to what's happening in the background which is the opening scene of GTA 5 with maxed out settings at 2560 by 1440 I so apologize if you here in the background my shitty neighbor as always another disclaimer is that I was wrong about the Corsair fans at the beginning being identical they're not turns out the fan included with the h-60 runs at a slightly lower rpm so I've removed it entirely from today's testing and I'm sticking with only the H ATI fans for everything so on with the data though with an ambient of 24 degrees Celsius both configurations seem to be performing similarly but to me the H ATI seems to be doing a slightly better job by around two to five degrees on average it's kind of hard to tell well like I'm bouncing my eyes back and forth between both readouts but after watching this over and over the h-60 does seem to run a tad warmer there are a few times where the h-60 drops temperatures way down to the 40s but it's only for like a split second before jumping back up into the high 50s low 60s meanwhile the H ad I sort of hovers in the 50s trickling into the low 60s albeit less frequently than its competitor the other tests I ran for today was the hitman benchmark and here I observed similar results with the H ATI delivering slightly better temps on average and after about an hour of re running these tests the behavior we're seeing seems to be repeatable and sort of illustrates how these two configurations stack up in the end it seems that CPU thermals in this case are more limited by the size of the a iOS thin array than the amount of airflow passing through it which kind of makes sense if you think about it I mean this is why we can have passive fanless air coolers which solely rely on their ability to draw heat away from the CPU and store it in their massive thin stacks I mean personally I think we should really be rejoicing at this outcome since having one less fan in your system effectively cuts the noise emissions of your AO unit in half if of course you don't count the pump noise but that's generally not too big of a deal unless you get really unlucky with a bad pump or something like that not to mention you're freeing up a fan header which doesn't seem like a lot but that can be a huge plus especially when you consider a lot of modern small form-factor chassé e's are starting to ship or have been shipping with more case fans and more fan mounts than ever before while mini ITX motherboards are still stuck with the same limited number of fan headers typically you only see two or three Mac's so I'm going to keep close eye on this trend favoring thicker radiators over higher airflow but until then I'd love to hear your guys's own experience on the matter in the comments down below on that note I'm going to have to cut it off here guys I know this was a fairly quick and semi rushed video but I've actually been studio hunting all this week with wifey sauce which is super exciting so hopefully more updates to come on that very soon but at any rate please forgive me if you find my lack of b-roll disturbing so let's go into it for now guys hopefully you enjoyed the video and if you did be sure to toss me a big fat like on it also feel free to subscribe to the channel for more tech stuff coming at you really soon I promise have it going guys and until then I'll see y'all in the next video
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