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REMATCH: OC Vega 56 / GTX 1070. Also...New RX Vega Pricing?!?!

2017-08-15
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vega cards um it wasn't quite the same as manually overclocking biga myself so now that we have the public driver on the AMD Radeon website I actually went in and did some manually overclocking with Vega 56 which is what we're focusing on today and redid all the benchmarks comparing it against a manually overclocked gtx 1070 so let me just walk you through exactly what I did AMD wat man for starters is a little bit funky right now as a software I was able to crank the slider the core clock percentage slider all the way up to 20% really without crashing under load and I probably could have gone further but I didn't because I figured something was kind of fishy and even the peak clock speeds that were being reported within wot man were reflecting a 20% gain whenever I cranked the slider up that high however when doing some validation within 3dmark firestrike extreme I noticed that our performance hit a wall at around 12% so that's pretty much what I kept it at for all of today's test was a 12% overclock to RX Vega 56 the card did get fairly warm under load maxing out at 86 degrees Celsius I made sure to keep a close eye on the clock speeds and it seemed to stay right at 780 megahertz so I did not observe any throttling throughout the entirety of our fire strike extreme testing additionally we are using the same test bed that we used in the last video so the Intel Core i 970 900 X overclocked to 4.5 gigahertz on all cores on top of the next to 99 gaming Pro carbon and that was also running 32 gigs of g.skill Trident Z tr4 at 3200 speed it's also worth noting that I omitted 4k benchmarks from today simply because we're not focusing on Vega 56 or the GTX 1080 and at the performance levels of the GTX 970 in Vega 56 pretty much we're not too concerned with 4k performance at that point so without further ado ladies and gentlemen here are the round 2 benchmarks for our gtx 1070 in Vega 56 manually overclocked cards all right evidently we can see a pretty nice gain from manually overclocking our Vega 56 as opposed to just running it in turbo mode which is why we're seeing these two cards compete now really closely neck-and-neck I mean overall the gtx 1070 still has a point seven four percent lead over the RX Vegas 56 but it's just so marginal I mean I pretty much consider this a draw simply because the cards are trading blows throughout all of our tests and really what this comes down to now is its price at the time of filming this video you can find a gtx 1070 on amazon or new egg at the low end for about 440 u.s. dollars whereas all hell is now breaking loose with vega pricing i mean at the time of launch we did see vega 56 retail for $400 as promised and it's 64 for $500 as promised but now we're seeing all these articles pop up stating that these were just launched prices for early adopters and that now that the first wave of stock is gone we're going to start to see the actual MSRP for these cards appear which is going to be $100 more for each model so $500 for RX vega 56 and $600 for air-cooled vega 64 if these are the true MSRP s which by the way none of us reviewers received any of this information upfront at AMD tech day or in any sort of emails from AMD directly or their PR companies so this is all of a shock and surprise to me as well that AMD sort of flipping the switch on the pricing here and if that is really the case that's really unfortunate because it was looking really good it was looking like a really good value good bang for the buck at least for Vega 56 and now if it's for $500 I mean forget about it just get a gtx 1070 for you know almost $60 cheaper now it does appear that if you opt for one of the Radeon packs those bundles that come with the two free games or the horizon 7 CPU motherboard or the monitor then you do get rx Vega for the early launch price but that still seems sort of anti-consumer for users who want just a standalone card and I feel like the whole trying to ward off cryptocurrency miners seems just like a royal excuse for everything that's happening right now so I don't know I feel like I want to hear more straight from the horse's mouth before I make any other statements or claims about what's going on but it definitely does seem a bit shady especially since none of us reviewers were made aware that these prices would be increasing immediately after the initial stock ran out at anything right guys I'll keep a close eye on it for you and I'm sure Paul and I will have something to say about it on a future awesome hardware but that's going to do it for now guys sorry again for the old batch of benchmarks hopefully this sort of makes up for that a little bit I apologize I'm only human I screw up all the time but hopefully you guys understand just that I'm an idiot be sure to toss me I like on the video if you enjoyed it you can also subscribe to bit with ultra my ad free early access channel for a buck-50 month the first two weeks are completely free and you can back out any friggin time as always guys i'm kavit litt thank you guys so much for watching stay tuned for more tech stuff coming at you really soon and I will see y'all in the next video
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