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retailer websites for the r-tx cards where previously when I was making my review I didn't really have anything to base the pricing off of other than the MSRP s that were officially given to me and other reviewers by Nvidia and so you can see here this is the actual the the same exact slide apart from the the green that I sort of highlighted the r-tx cards in here this is the exact same slide that was in my review video you can see I've got the dollar amounts next to each of the cards and these are actually the best some of the best prices that I could find for custom versions of each of these cards the reason why I used pricing from the custom cards is because I wanted to be as realistic as possible and I figured most people going out to buy a GTX 10 series card or even an rx Vega card they're not gonna settle for a Founders edition card they're probably gonna go for a custom board partner car that has a better cooler on it maybe better power delivery factory overclocks and things like that so so I wanted it to be more realistic and representative of what the average consumer is going to be looking at if considering purchasing one of these cards now there's sort of an issue here because we're using the pricing for the custom cards but we're using the performance of the founders edition reference cards at the same time so that does definitely throw things off really I think it's safe to assume that the values we see here for our GTX 10 series cards and our eggs mega64 card I think these values are a little bit low they're kind of doing these cards into service and in reality if we were pairing or calculating these numbers with the admin board partner custom variant performance then I think these figures would be slightly higher I don't think that would change the values here significantly in fact I'm pretty sure the rankings would stay the same overall but what's interesting is I kind of gave the r-tx cards the benefit of the doubt on this slide mainly because I calculated their frames per dollar using the official starting price of $6.99 for the 2080 and 999 for the 2080 TI which we all know now on launch day that you cannot find an RT x 2080 for $6.99 so it just stands to reason that if I'm using the current pricing that can be found today for all the other cards I should use the current pricing that can be found today for the RT x 2080 as well the RT x 28 ET I kind of had a weird semi launch today because while you can see them on Newegg and Amazon stuff you can't actually buy them since Nvidia delayed their general availability by about a week so we're mainly focusing on the RT X 2080 right now needless to say this graph needs to be updated with the current pricing so why don't we go ahead and do that now we'll head to newegg.com I did find some RT X 20 80s and even a 20 80 TI or two on Amazon but all the pricing there was about 20 to 30 dollars higher overall so we're just gonna stick to nuoc here looking for the lowest possible prices now the RT x 2080 from ZOTAC one of those otech gaming cards is actually 749 that's not bad $50 over the starting price but then again this is a closed shroud with a blower fan it's gonna be really noisy and probably hot so I don't think this is representative of what most consumers are looking at if they're gonna be purchasing this card so I'm gonna go to the next one the RT x 28 EXC gaming from EVGA at $7.99 that sounds a bit more reasonable not in terms of price but just the type of card gamers are looking for so this is $100 premium over the starting price so that's definitely gonna change our frames per dollar value I should mention that I saw a custom RT X 2080 here on Newegg earlier this morning for 789 so I actually used that dollar amount to calculate the new frames per dollar value for the r-tx 2080 so bear that in mind still it's only a ten dollar difference but that's kind of what we're looking at right now for the r-tx 2080 on launch day if you're looking for a custom variant that isn't gonna get all hot and loud so let's move on to the let's actually take a quick pit stop here at the GTX 1080p eye because the 1080i is very competitive right now with the RT X 2080 or at least it was in my first FPD slide if we take a look at that you can see the 2080 and 1080 TI are the most neck-and-neck when it comes to their frames per dollar value compared to the other cards in the bunch but like we just saw the 2080 is not selling for $6.99 right now but rather 789 so this will have to be adjusted and let's take a look at the 1080 Ti going back here you can see I've also sorted this by lowest price and these are refurbished and they don't matter here 6:49 for the msi gtx 980ti duke 11 gig OC so this is actually a pretty decent card and it's got a nice cooler on a triple fan heatsink design a very well reviewed card as well people seem to like it premium features backplate and all that sort of thing so this is a card that I could see gamers being interested in especially for a relatively attractive price here so this is the figure that we're gonna use for the updated frames per dollar slide 649 not $6.99 like we previously had last but certainly not least we have to take a look at the pricing for our r-tx 20 atti at eleven hundred and sixty nine ninety nine once again it says otech card this time it's a triple fan design so it looks like it's a pretty respectable cooler and could be quite popular if if it is gonna stay as the lowest priced r-tx 2080 TI for now so this is again significantly higher than the starting price that nvidia told us custom cards would start at or that's redundant of $9.99 this is a hundred and seventy dollars over that so again we're gonna have to adjust our frames per dollar slide so taking all that into account this is the old slide that was revealed during my review video and this is our now launched a slide with the updated pricing for all the cards and what do you know the r-tx 2080 has actually fallen to the bottom to join the r-tx 20 atti as the two lowest ranked cards on this list in terms of their frames per dollar or their price to performance they are clearly the worst bang for the buck right now because of the inflated launch prices and this is something that I should have seen coming but there was no way I could have predicted the pricing here of 789 and 1169 until today so that's why we're sort of doing this follow-up video now and you can see here two gtx 1070 and GT x 1080 are still ahead by a long shot and suddenly the gtx 1080 TI looks like a much better value proposition at 3.19 FBD compared to the RT x 2080 which is now significantly more expensive at two point seven seven by the way I was able to find an RX Vega 64 for just $4.99 quite a bit cheaper than what I was seeing when I was conducting my review earlier this week I believe it was a sapphire nitro card very decent looking card nice-looking cooler on it and that obviously pushed our FPD up to three point one three taking it above the r-tx 2080 this time around but still evidently falling quite short of the GTX 1080 and all the other GTX 10 series cards for that matter now at the end of the day what this means is that if you only care about raw performance you just want all the frames you could care less about r-tx you know ray-tracing DL SS and you have about six to eight hundred dollars to spend meaning you could either choose realistically between the 1080 Ti or the 2080 I think this chart kind of says it all I mean you do get anywhere from five to ten percent faster performance on the 2080 than you do on the 1080i but you're paying a hundred and one hundred and forty dollars more for that very incremental increase so what kind of conclusions can we draw now from this updated slide well for starters I think the gtx 980ti is now painted in a much better light compared to the RT x 2080 because it's just got a better bang for the buck overall if you're looking at this chart now of course you can look at a different chart where the r-tx 2080 is ahead of the 1080 TI and that would just be a performance chart because it is the faster card it's about five 10% faster on average that means it could be less than 5% or more than 10% faster in certain games but on average in my testing at 1440p and 4k if you're taking the average frame rates it's about 5 to 10 percent faster than the 1080 TI that being said it's 140 dollars more expensive right now so I I don't think I don't think that's worth it the only other considerable thing that the RT X 2080 has going forward here is the RT X technology that that's suite of technologies including ray tracing and DL SS if those are important to you if you are really set on experiencing those firsthand as they come into the market as they hit the industry for the first time you want to feel it and see and experience it in its infancy and you just can't wait for it to become sort of this mainstream technology that trickles down to all of us plebs then maybe that $140 premium is worth it to you and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that it's your money you can spend it however you want and for the record I I think the r-tx 2080 and 2080 TI are fantastic cards it's just unfortunate that every new GPU that seems to come out just gets hit with ridiculously inflated launch prices and that really dampens their overall value and it makes them hard to recommend it makes them a hard sell so until the prices go down on these RT x cards i can't say just like go out and buy it you know you know obviously it's your money do what you want but I personally wouldn't I would wait for those prices to come down and even when they do like if the RT X 2080 in three months you know but let's say by the end of the year the RT X 2080 drops down to its starting price for like that EVGA XC card for example a nice custom cooler card down to $6.99 what's the 1080 TI gonna be at that point is that gonna also drop you know relative to that there is it gonna be now you know you can have it for five hundred and seventy bucks cuz if so it's still a really good deal might want to think about that too so it's it's a numbers game it's it's a pricing thing and it's therefore gonna be fluctuating all over the place for the next couple months and we'll just have to wait and see maybe I'll do another follow-up video in whenever that happens so that's all I got for now guys though y'all let me know what you think in the comments as always thanks so much for tuning in toss like on this video if you enjoyed it get subscribed for more tech stuff on the way and check me out on floatplane if you'd like to watch my videos a whole week early without ads for 3 bucks a month I'll put a link for that in the video description til next time thank you guys for watching have a good one and I'll see you all in the next video