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So many Ryzen leaks, so little time! | Awesome Hardware #0191-A

2019-06-25
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trans of the show her just the experience of that is is life-changing so um we are going to jump right in to tech news we've got some leaks because that's what said this wasn't my title so I'm not gonna click bait all right you did my click at a certain point we'd derail from like making up stuff in our head to say and just sort of like what does it say on the show document then but I feel like it's a different it happens at a different time I feel like it's gonna be like the boy who cried wolf because you know like for vlogs and stuff I'll get pretty click Betty and admittedly but but I'm gonna do it so much to the point where eventually when I go you know the title is 3800 X Rison 730 800 X performance benchmarks leaks people are gonna look at it and go well what's this video gonna be about probably how's he gonna stick me on that he'll be you and your wife bitching at each other yes that would be the ultimate clickbait just Pickering just guys it as useful tech information and just like wifey sauce and I just going at it in an argument rigorously all right let's move on thinking of this separate talking about do we do we say disclaimer like oh yeah okay like occasionally occasionally adult language or adult adult themes can be we should get like an official like pg-13 or yeah I'd be a rated or I guess if we were a movie if the show was a movie we'd be rated at all right mosaic sensor yeah that'd be nice some shows would be I think some shows could get away with the pg-13 or the PG from time to time yeah agent Lee we forget to curse completely usually people are disappointed there and when that happened that it's true we do and we do have some moments that's true you have some moments that RPGs so let's talk about our first story here which is from WCF tech risin 730 800 X performance benchmarks have been leaked to alright some user found that some asshole who didn't turn his internet off while he was running benchmarks in Geekbench what a dick left all of his results just sitting there for the taking in the Geekbench database so thank you to that idiot definitely wasn't me and then so the resin 730 800 X was tested with an X 470 board so whoever had this didn't have access to X 570 presumably and he also used he or she used a 16 gigabyte kit with modest speeds nothing too crazy and they found a multi-threaded score of 34,000 just over 34,000 single-threaded score of just over 5400 and it's pretty telling cuz if you look at the the existing scores for the i7 9700 K which this chip is competing with because they're both around the same price 3,800 X is gonna launch it 399 the 9700 K can be found for just over that the bullseye throated score for the 97 97 hundred K was twenty eight hundred and twenty eight thousand sorry twenty eight thousand four hundred so again that's compared to the 34 thousand that the 3800 X scored quite quite a big uplift there and then the 9900 K which is obviously a bit more expensive than either of these chips scored a multi multi-threaded score of thirty one thousand five hundred so still not beating out the much cheaper 3800 X some some good standing it's good good Scott good sign so far however however Intel is still about 10 percent roughly ten percent faster in the single-threaded scores so if you look at the 9700 kmno okay you actually see that they are pulling quite a head of the 3,800 X but not by as much as the last generation of risin ships so you can see that the 3800 X and single-threaded performance kind of has this like almost almost a midpoint almost a equal midpoint between the 2700 X before it and the current generation of night you know ninth Gen Intel chips under flagship side so we're getting there AMD is getting there I say weak has like we're all kind of in this we're all sort of rooting for the underdog here but it's it's looking like this isn't the only trick up AMD sleeve they also have the risin 5 3,600 which hasn't been officially confirmed by the company however we've been seeing numerous leaks across the globe including this one that was summarized by hexxus net featuring el chapo sus informatica se for Mexico which is a Spanish or Spanish or Mexican publisher not exactly sure which one but they published a full-blown review these aren't just I mean it is a leak but this is like a full like review featuring Cinebench w prime there's a 264 we got 3d mark applications you age in heaven for point 4.0 super position and even game titles there's Assassin's Creed obviously far cry 5 total war hammer and so forth so this is a full-blown review that you could just read right now on the risin 5 3600 successor to the risin 5 2600 before it and it's it's got some interesting results here the takeaway is that it's it's freaking crazy if you look at the Far Cry I just all you got to do is look at the Far Cry 5 slide scroll down to the Far Cry 5 slide that is doing that that's everything right there so risin foam there's that back again the the horizon 530 600 is tested on X 479 X 570 but you can see here it's keeping pace with the core i7 6700 K and it's blowing the the 2700 X out of the water which is a more top skew it's actually again creating sort of a stopgap between 2700 X and 9900 K it's a lot closer to the 9900 K what about the what about the nine hundred K up here though no yeah it's still it's still fantastic but when you look at the price difference probably of what the risin 5 3604 is in a launch that's the $200 chip 200 L or chip $200 chip versus what five hundred and something for the 9900 k 485 as of this week okay 45 oh yeah cuz we'll get to that but it's still more than double the price for marginal gains I'll also want to comparison point out they are using is really information also we should all this this is all probably nonsense yep totally none of this is probably true we haven't tested anything but they're using thirty-two hundred megahertz memory mm-hmm according to AMD the sweet spot for the rise in three is thirty six hundred thirty six thirty six hundred I heard there's an interesting thing that happens at 3,800 where the the clock speed ratio between the memory and the Infinity fabric is one-to-one right that's why faster memory equals faster rise and chips and it goes to 1 and 2 it goes to 1 to 2 when you get above I think 30 when you hit 3800 mm-hmm so I'm interested to see some tests to see what kind of effect that actually has I I heard from a fairly reliable source that that the the drop-off in performance gains really fall short at a higher frequency someone who Commodus has me and explained I didn't understand what you just said so that that you can actually squeeze pretty decent performance out of higher higher frequency Ram like higher than 3600 I heard the cap is like 4100 before it really starts yeah I mean I've heard they've they they've been like what they said that the event was every kit they've tried up to 4,000 or 4,100 or 40 200 or something right in that right in that range they've just plugged in turned on XMP settings and it's worked yeah which is that's very good news because it means hopefully it's not as finicky with memory kits right but I'm just saying when it comes to gaming performance in particular latency between CC X's right the court complex is that you know there's four four cores per CCX yeah and latency between those is what cause is what sort of holds it back in gaming performance right so if you're switching the Infinity fabric speed from one to one to one to two then maybe you're losing maybe the that's adding some latency there right and maybe that that will be a detriment to gaming performance but obviously no one's gonna know this until it's tested sure because there's because computers are weird and you might have an expectation for something to do one thing and it doesn't right or whatever there's it's still very the whole series is are still very much routed in mystery we're kind of just going off of whatever leaks that we have here but but it's looking like cat is confirming and yes this is the number 37 33 is the highest you can go for that stays one-to-one when once you go up to the next divider after 37 33 right then then I can switch this to one to do right so it'll be interesting to test down yes I believe there's eight cores per cc Exxon's n2o so it was four in risin - what was it four it was four cores in CCS in a single CCX for the last gen or four I guess the current yes yeah yeah first and second gen right but if this is to be at all true in any capacity it's pretty exciting that for a tuner dollar chip you could get pretty decent performance that rivals or that actually surpasses a flagship 2,700 X and obviously the testing here is is made to show that the difference it's it's made to highlight the the difference in performance between CPUs as most as as much as possible which is why they're testing with a 20 atti to make it as CPU bound as possible but most people who are using it know there are still four per CC X I'm sorry I should just know for that makes more sense to me so somebody in chat said eight and I just rolled with it but honestly I'm not thinking very so there's two CC X's per chip lit yeah that makes more sense that's right such an information overload that it just sometimes it fries my brain okay but at any rate take this with a grain of salt but you know still kind of citing it almost seems as though like Intel should be shaking in their boots right now and should probably take action based on all the speculation and they should get a little bit nervous right watch my video on the 25 new 2500 K oh yeah I caught bits of that video of us it seemed it seemed good seems like it was really good really good video it's a great video yeah everyone go watch that video but you know I think maybe Intel heard your cries Paul maybe Intel watch your video and they they probably first disliked it because they're like no just don't tell us what to do Paul and then they ended up doing something anyway which was cutting their prices by 15% on their CPUs what this is unheard of well like in into Intel history whoa for the last 10 years or so it's all thanks to me and it's all thanks to Paul oh thank you very much for for lowering the prices for the world you're welcome um we we owe you a huge debt that will never be paid and then this is from digit times they reported that Intel's gonna slash desktop processor prices by up to 15% in response to the competition so they're feeling the competitive pressures of AMD of course and sources in Taiwan in the Taiwanese motherboard market are suggesting that the prices across eighth and ninth gen families will be lowered by around 10 to 15 percent that's around if you look at the high end of like what you said like you know a 500 issue dollar CPU at the 9900 K you potentially looking at a $75 price cut that's that's insane AMD has a lot going for it though besides price to performance and they have greater core counts you know for the money larger caches PCIe gen for support which is pretty huge IPC gains that are still maybe not rivaling Intel's flagship parts but are still much higher than what they were and energy efficiency right these things are these things are these have a lot more performance per watt than they used to and the scalable platform with am for being backwards and forwards compatible and there's a lot to look forward to with this next generation of Verizon CPUs and of course Intel has to respond in in some way in one way or another so price cut seems seems to be the easiest and most logical option for now it's their only option if they don't have a competing product to release right response exactly so we've heard about is the ninety nine hundred KS or whatever their comes with KQ whatever the other stupid letter they're adding on to the name to make it more confusing yeah that's not come until like q3 or q4 right Thanks so exactly that's that's a long shot and then that's what we're expecting ten nanometers stuff to hopefully arrive right stop yep and they start there if the rumors aren't true that they're pushing it to 2020 what's up I would not be surprised so yeh Intel CPUs it'll be interesting to see the lowered Intel CPU prices and how that's going to affect the the landscape right because right now it's like everyone everyone is so has so much like the AMD hype train is so full and it's going full speed right now and depending on these prices from Intel when you compare you know the price to performance because that's what AMD has in the bag is price to performance but if they're slashing prayer if Intel's slicing slashing prices to this degree on some of their you know hottest CPUs it could definitely change some people's minds you know people who are potential rising buyers that can hear the baby the baby the dogs have now been studying she's learning words she's saying many things like ooh yeah and and and other fortnight other noises court name for tonight who's her first words you failed as a parent I would be able to be over watching if any he's been if she's been absorbing any video game there's been some overwatch League going on her first words remain diva ya wanna have a song oh yeah yeah alright so good luck to AMD and Intel we look forward to testing all their parts in an all-out bloodbath but more on that later for now we can move on to our next story from Gizmodo about the Raspberry Pi for everyone's been talking about it there have been significant upgrades that could let it finally pass as an incredibly cheap desktop computer which is kind of exciting let's just dive right into the specs here we've got a Broadcom 1.5 gigahertz ARM Cortex a 72 quad core processor with an option to step up from the default one gigabyte of ram look awesome the scaling options are with Firefox I just zooming in on the blood page oh yeah it's very nice I feel Firefox has superior zoom in and zoom out and no incapabilities in chrome and no strangers are watching you do it no that's true and so we also have the option to go for it too from one gig of faster lpddr4 RAM to 2 gigs for $45 or 4 gigs for $55 if you want to just take advantage of more functionality if you need more RAM they have a standard there was a standard size single HDMI port on the Raspberry Pi 3 they've upgraded that now to dual mini HDMI I'm sorry Mike I'm sorry micro PMI which is not my favorite because micro HDMI ports can be kind of fragile I know you had a padam fail you had them fail on your ugh for in the past and stuff so it remains to be seen if this is really an upgrade however having two ports instead of one will allow users to connect up to two 4k monitors which is kind of cool I'm honestly like if you're concerned about micro HDMI get a little dongle like micro HDMI to standard HDMI and just leave it plugged in all the time mmm yeah and save the ports on your devices that is true and then so those are 4k you can have two 4k displays at 30fps or you could have a single 4k display at 60fps I would much prefer the latter but depending on your use case scenario you might need to to displace it's using Eric and Holt's missa V 3d graphics driver which apparently is a good thing Mesa Mesa sorry I say Meza yes you did be two S's 1s is missing a pair of USB 2 and a pair of USB 3.0 fourths micro USB port has been replaced however by a power only USB C which I am a fan of that gives you an extra 500 milliamps of juice and you have Bluetooth 5.0 which is an upgrade and dual band 802 11 AC that would have been kind of cool to see ax on there but I understand I understand limitations there the OS system upgrades or the OS has also had some system upgrades based on upcoming the upcoming release of Debian Debian 10 Buster it's making it more user friendly to kind of just you know first-time users people who are familiar with the Mac OS or Windows environments may feel a bit more at home on this new operating system so that's exciting because the the raspberry pi raspberry Anor whatever it's called I forget what it's called it can be a little confusing there's new applications or I should say there's going to be tons of new applications that people find use case scenarios for this device it being more powerful more capable it'll be interesting to see what people actually use this for that the Raspberry Pi 3 just couldn't couldn't deliver on so it's not just for it doesn't seem like it's just for hobbyists anymore but potentially you could be looking at a super budget desktop replacement I'm sure that's gonna be tested in full when these things get in more people's hands but let us move on to Google pixel for what Google pixel for rumored to extend photography lead with P 3 white color capture okay so this is aiming to capture a wider color gamut on your pixel 4 device it's gonna make the camera in the pixel phones even better than they previously were which is which is saying a lot because right now the pixel 3 is kind of like top of its game when it comes to camera and picture quality I guess Apple is still ahead of the game in that sense because they're using a P 3 color gamut so they can actually display more vivid colors with a wider gamut a wider range than an Android can so if you took a picture on Android and tried to display on your Google phone you'd actually be losing out on some of that color fidelity so to speak I mean if you took a picture with an iPhone and try to display it on an Android phone Android Club that's yeah I guess because of the camera the camera can also capture captures ap3 color gamut as opposed to srgb I think srgb is the gamut that's currently in the pixel 3 in Excel yes DCI p3 is I believe what's primarily been used for like cinematography and stuff right yeah it's the film standard right yes yeah so so these monitors are so awesome because they're all b3 there's 90 percent 90 percent the LG technically does think like 98% it's pretty high Wow an LG did you do a color test in between the two panels in your video no my video sucks no one watched that video no but I'd be interested to see that because this is I mean obviously this is priced higher for different reasons than color games this is like a thousand bucks now I like a little less than a thousand yeah and that's like right we have 2500 very expensive but very expensive luggage dr and that will blow this HDR away if you're all about HDR you definitely want that one yeah that's very good at HD I didn't give a shit about HDR until I got that LG OLED TV and and then was actually playing like shadow the Tomb Raider in battlefield 5 is a cop oh my god where's Heather oh no what happened your YouTube chefs being dreams know why they she's doing stuff okay okay thank you she's been alerted thank you there's porn bots it's not cuz I was watching porn earlier or anything it's not my fault I thank you so I know that I'm off the hook on board bots yes so Google was dropping hints last month like they were bombs saying that the sRGB color gamut at 8 bits per channel per color channel is just not enough to take advantage of the display and camera technology on today's flagship phones and they they want to stick it to Apple and be more competitive with their flagship shit so the evidence is all pointing to DCI p3 color game and coming to pixel four very soon last year the team at xda-developers found that photos the photo samples taken from a leaked pixel 3 contained an embedded display p3 color profile of course that never actually materialized with the pixel 3 or the XL but they're speculating that it was because of a lack of support in applications different apps as opposed to the cameras not being able to take advantage of it so we're all expecting that the pixel 3 I'll ship with Android Q on board which will feature and support display p3 I guess it's called display p3 on mobile I still like the original pixel uh yeah this I mean the pixel two is great I had the pixel to pixel one pixel dude although the battery on this has really just taken a taking a dive really I am I think I'm over three years on this it's crazy well you do have the excel see the bigger battery - yeah the battery still does great on this though Heather's battery's been better than mine - and she has the original pixel she has the same guy as you but I do I do need to change this out soon because my my USB C port is starting to fail really it still works fine for charging if I want fast charging it's like kind of 50/50 like really aims out to replug it and stuff oh no data transfer like really doesn't work anymore that sucks I like if it'll work for a second but like it like it I needed some magic like angle in there I wouldn't be my I wouldn't be surprised at all if mine was the same because I haven't tried transferring data over in a long time but I noticed the connector is so loose now any USB see fresh cable that I plug in here it just it comes out so quickly it's so easily it's just just worn out USB see was supposed to be the chosen one I know never-fail I know what's gonna might throw like a micro USB as well but what's going on micro USB at least had some teeth to it over there okay so yeah Google pixel four that's the okay we can we can dive into pin my PC lint I should check for lint I'll check for winterland an accent always check for lint yeah it's like check for checking for lumps wait you did put my PC yeah so remember my pictures weren't loading on here so I said we were gonna do like an impromptu on-the-fly vetting that is what you said of submissions so how so now you could go to my Twitter you don't have to log into my Twitter but you just go to your Twitter and go to my profile just go straight to my profile and then look at the replies on my my tweet so um yeah for whatever reason I'm not logged in to Twitter on this browser do you have to be logged in to I know that but Twitter is all freaking wonky today it's taken forever yeah no Twitter was shit right before the show so I couldn't even like look at your pictures they were all just coming up as grey and black boxes they still are I can hardly see anything here so I don't even know what any of your pictures look like oh yeah Wow look at that oh shit that's what Twitter looks like right now guys no Twitter oh no Twitter yeah it's weird yeah I I'm not exactly sure how to proceed at this point at least for for this segment cuz um it is somewhat reliant on a functional Twitter it's like how would we stream the show if twitch was down or you ya know yeah so you'd be like I don't know we just have to like not actually stream and just sit here and do the show just the two of us but not not broadcasting it to anyone it sounds creepy that's what we'd have to do it makes it seem like we're robots like we're just doing it to be in the motion of it yeah because it's a task it's the tasks it's on your you're in the queue and you have to accomplish that task before as yeah because that's what the robot overlords are commanding we are under their reign after all so it doesn't look like we can actually do i I see that I see that people are like I understand chat that it's not dead for every baby that's working for you that some people are loading it just fine can you try a different browser and maybe it's maybe Twitter just sucks on Firefox is that what you're suggesting is Chrome it's just Chrome's way of retaliating because it knows that we both defected now it's a this big old blade slow Modi white screen on chroma yeah no it's just black boxes I can't see anyone's pictures they're not it's like I'm on a plane we could it's like when you get a plane Wi-Fi yeah split to slow to load pictures that's what it's like it might work on our phones but like then we couldn't show you guys the pictures so what's the point of you guys sitting here watching us we're like yeah that's a nice build you got there I would switch the the you know PSU everyone pulls your eyes and imagine and I'll just assume like there's ketchup and mustard cables you should get some you should get some extensions oh no you should rewrite that that 8-pin super supplemental CPU power connector behind the motherboard tray uh you've got a decent color scheme going on here but there's just that one thing standing out that you should swap out okay it'd be the easiest thing for like AI for like an AI bought to emulate like an AI BOTS could just do the show every week this is only like ten phrases that we use you could put those responses just generically with any yeah just put on a sound board on a sound board and just like hit them like change that ketchup and mustard power support we got to do it we gotta do we got to do it on that I think we got to put that thing to real use it's just sitting there think about painting your RAM heats [Laughter] upgrade your stock CPU cooler where'd you get a sound board I've got five blank ones right yeah where'd you get that case to do that yeah well I think that was the best pin my PC we've ever done that was beautiful I honestly don't know I didn't have a back-up plan that my pcs never been an issue - that's loading hold on maybe it's fixed victor news like 6:10 so technically it's almost been about half an hour since we know shit right mm-hmm well I mean I think it was a good show so far you know I think yeah I think it's been no I felt like I really enjoyed the things we've talked about and all times yeah why is it loading right fine right here we're on the same network see at least your laptops loading them I'm having the same experience on my laptop as you are on the streaming pc but on this system Chrome or fire I got we got no difference yeah same same bro same nil okay the clear DNS cache what if what if we clear out some of the Dome patience if there are any oh wait there's only one well unless yeah okay there's there's probably okay looks like there's only one here I don't know if wifey sauce has been Mike just donated and said Cheers Kyle thanks Mike I can look at thank you Mike envy 67 I can I can look at super chat right now can i on my yes so she should be able to do that all right we're gonna read out some donations here because our pet my PC the show is cut short sorry to anyone who submitted it's not our fault but submit again next week we'll do another pin my pet my PC next week and if you submitted yeah and maybe I'll maybe maybe it'll be better next week I don't have all the answers okay I'm just a person super chat okay okay we only have a few all right Dom Dom DOM the Goff's key weren't you in Chernobyl no sounds like a very Russian name 1989 sense baby I've got 19 cents in a dollar ain't one um alright so no comment thank you getting ready there let's read this comment and answer it with anything here you go pup shepherd wags wags a pop up would you be willing to do it willing willing willing would you be willing to do a video comparing quad cores AMD and Intel CPUs versus the higher end offerings the test is 60 Hertz gaming hi quad core there's there's there's some specifics missing I mean there's quad core AMD CPUs there's also quad core Intel's but there's a wide range of those if you're talking about any testing that's gonna be done and the next like two weeks is all gonna be on the rise and three stuff the rising three stuff starts at six cores and I could be wrong but I'm not even sure we're getting samples of the six core options we might just beginning the higher core count ones yeah so there's validity there you there's validity to the test that you're requesting fidelity but I want to promise anything like in the near future because quad-core is probably not exactly gonna be what we're looking at yeah um although doing a comparison of like you know what if you're currently on a quad-core whatever the various quad cores have been viable in the past five ten years yeah and if sixteen now if 60 Hertz gaming is your your goal then you you might be okay with a quad core you might not need a 16 core rise in CPU in the first place depending on what resolution you're gaming at but I'm sure there will be no shortage of Rison coverage and content in the next coming weeks because there's just there's a lot to talk about and there's a lot of publishers that are that are hot on it so um thank you very much pop though for the donation in comment except we have soul slam gaming why so many bad reviews on the Asus Z 390 Mini ITX I don't know did you read the reviews was that Sagan why are there so many bad reviews on the Asus RZ through ninety ITX hmm motherboard I don't know I don't know what is the reviews say that was gonna say did you read the reviews reader they just did they leave any words were there words to use it looks like I've got a 3.9 out of 4 on Amazon which isn't bad or I'm sorry 3.9 out of 5 on Newegg it's a bit lower it's got with three eggs Jesus Christmas my my friggin like new eggs not even loading like my web pages aren't even loading right now I mean it makes sense cuz Twitter but I guess it wasn't just I don't know your Internet's messed up maybe it's fine we're still streaming of zero dropped frames maybe that's taking up hogging up all the bandwidth that's never been a problem in the past is your baby already like hacking away there's computing and there's not gonna ball your man with absolutely ridiculous amount of bandwidth for what we're doing even with multiple video streams going in and out how is this possible everyone in chat says to change your DNS server everyone's got an opinion use the one dot one dot one dot 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 keep hitting one until you connect I don't know why the reviews are so bad you should look at the ones on the Amazon they're actually pretty positive I don't know if I'd use this board but I can't say for sure I don't have any personal experience with it odd now usually with boards I feel like it's weird firmware issues weird BIOS things BIOS sucks so unstable that's like the number one complaint I see on boards for the most part but thank you very much for your donation let's move on to c3 sure sure $24.99 thank you sir or ma'am cheers planning to build better place to build planning a build to replace a workstation slash gaming PC 60/40 split 3900 X or wait and see with the AMD 16 core is like depending on what kind of workstation needs that you have 16 cores is more than enough for gaming obviously if you're doing it is 60/40 split so you're actually prioritizing work over gaming here depends on what kind of work you need if you are if you are like editing video editing and stuff I would say hold out for the 16 cores I mean it's still not super far away it should be launching in September doubling your BS gets 12 core now and then just upgrade to the 16 core if you just said that not enough for you I mean you can and that's not for everyone I mean you know having to go in swap back well about your CPU and spend that much money and trying to resell your old CPU or finding another use for it but not coz if you need it yeah it is for us I mean some people you know it's like it's gonna be a more of a happy kind of like a custom liquid-cooled system or something you could you could very well do that it just depends on what system you have set up now this thing keeps reconnecting if you have a decent system right now I would I would hold out if you're really desperate and whatever you're using right now just is on its last leg then yeah probably go with like an 8 core or 12 core and then upgrade to the 16 core later if you think it suits your needs better but we we obviously don't really know for sure until the benchmarks are out but good luck on that thank you very much for the donation shop sonic shown it short show $5 great start on the Asus pg3 5v monitor Paul review thank you any plan to go in depth with LG nano IPS offering whenever they actually release the damn thing I would depend on whether or not LG wants to send being that and so they're gonna use their nano IPS tech in that they already have on their TVs into gaming monitors that boy wasn't listening to what you said say it again so so it sounds like I don't know anything about this but it looks like from what he's saying is that LG's gonna use their the nano IPS technology that they have in their TVs currently and they're gonna bring in its like nano cell IPS is like IPS is I believe they have very they're very dense pixels mm-hmm I can't talk right now it's it's new its new its new panel technology that LG has been teasing but they don't have any actual products based on it out yet right so well yeah art from the TVs it's except for the TVs yeah um I don't know the exact benefits of nano cell / IPS or like the pros and Hans really that's a good question because I've actually done a video on nano cell TV before but I I forget exactly what the benefits are specifically to just normal IBS but I know everyone go OLED this way for her labs trigger she's gonna trigger chat right now err err 404 oz Tech there is 8 per CC X hence the 16 core has to eight core CC x and an iodine thank you Eric who donated five Australia's yes we figured that out it was a long journey to get there but we eventually used logic and logic made the most sense out of all the other things we tried yes there are two chip le'ts on say a 3900 X and and each of those chip 'let's have four cores I'm sorry say 39 50 X could have eight cores per chip luyt and there would be two cc x's per chip lit which would no no I'm doing it wrong eight cores per CC X 4 4 4 per cc yeah it's still 4 8 per triplet so he's wrong - chip --let's per tablet for per processor for remember to giblets for a maximum of 16 cores total right for for no 8/8 no four four four four yes yep QC CX is pretty lit four cores per chip --let all right no four cores per CC X gives you 16 cores per CPU because there's two Triplets per CPU and the I have we're professionals as anyone elses head spinning or is it just ours thank you very much air for Oh for oszi time jujubee's update on Charlie does I'll know about him or her Charlie Charlie is our new pet if you watch today's vlog we actually found a caterpillar a black Swallowtail caterpillar at the farmers market last week and we adopted it because it was literally just chillin on a bed of lettuce and someone was gonna snatch it up and turn it into their latest protein drink or something so we took it home we actually got it like a little tank and stuff and it's now a chrysalis and so really yeah we actually fed it and we got like fresh dill for it make sure that had no pesticides we got it from the same farmers market and it turned into a chrysalis it was cool we actually missed it shedding its skin like a molting or whatever but we woke up the next morning one of the mornings and it was freaking just chill on there like on the bottom of a branch so in a few days it should be a butterfly and then we'll set it free we're just we're just keeping him captive until he's safe and then can you know fuck off and breed and die and you know they say advised if you take a little worm and it turns into a butterfly and you set it free and then it comes back to you then it's probably not very smart it should go out and find a mate - yeah I have sex with right if it comes back to you it shouldn't have made it in the first place because that's just gonna further the breed of dumb butterflies exactly so if it comes back to you you should kill it if Charlie comes flying back to us I'm immediately gonna just electric electric racket him I don't know if Lyle knows about him he probably does and it's plotting to kill him which he showed if he's done MB 67 thank you very much Mike cheers Kyle $13 37 cents as always am i appreciated Mike Randi bear in depth review of Apple monitor stands someday I can't afford to spend the money on an Apple stamp on Kyle it's the tax right now leave it to Apple to make you feel like a poor person do it for work it's a stand it's thousand dollar stand I need to know whether or not it's an investment they should make I just I can't do it you know what that's what Linus is for lie this is their to make all the stupid purchases so that people don't have to and he can tell you if it's worth it or not because they've got they've got the the funds you know they got the bank to do it the bankroll I mean I spend a thousand dollars on the stand why this is gonna do it that's their that's their thing that's this thing he'll do a drop test and everything you know all right that's gonna do it for my half thank you very much we're gonna roll over to Paul's half right now you can follow the link in my description if you're watching this on youtube or just stay where you are on twitch TV and feel free to do timestamps if you're so inclined that would be much appreciated oh not a word all right we will we'll be right back okay thanks guys thank you bye
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