Gadgetory

so earlier today I posted a poll on Instagram which is stupid I should never ask the internet anything but I haven't learned my lesson yet I basically asked you guys if you'd want to see me cram Rison 930 900 x12 court 24th read part into my very lovely Dan case a4 system here we're gonna we're gonna try to doing it today right now we have a risin 7 2,700 in here nan XQ 65 watt TDP part got an asus rog Strix x4 70 i gaming motherboard mini ITX of course we've got 16 gigs of g.skill ripjaws 5 ddr4 at 3200 speed this I believe is a 500 gig samsung 970 Evo plus power supplies of course here at SF 450 yes that's enough juice to drive the system we have a 92 millimeter liquid Aereo directly from ASA TAC cooling our Rison chip here and that's actually fixed with a 92 millimeter slim knock to a fan and on the other side a big boy or I guess our little boy a gtx 1080i mini from ZOTAC it's just such a beautiful system I love it for the last year or so this has actually been my on-the-go workstation system so for like CES earlier this year we edited with this and it was awesome it just did a fantastic job stayed cool in fact I just did a test in Adobe Premiere Pro rendering out a 10 minute 4k clip with effects and everything this is running stock and we didn't see temperatures over 69 C so not even topping 70 degrees Celsius right now which is giving me really high hopes here for our 3900 X even though we are dealing with significantly more threads but yeah 105 watt TDP chip compared to 65 watts on the 2700 so yeah I am expecting this to get quite a bit warmer by how much I I guess what we're about to find out I'm hoping that it's not too hot to the point where the 92 millimeter Aereo can't handle it and that we have to actually dumb it down to a measly Rison 730 700 X this is that the 8 core 16 thread part but this is 65 watt TDP chess so I think this one will be definitely manageable but I'm gonna I'm gonna go for the moonshot first we're gonna stick the twelve core in first and then work our way down to the risin 7 part if it just gets too hot so the first thing though is that we have to actually update the BIOS because this is next 470 board which currently is not running the the latest compatibility by us with the latest of jasa update and stuff like that for rising 3000 so I'm gonna update the BIOS which means we have to leave this second gen rise and chip in there for now and we'll go ahead and swap it out for the 3900 another thing worth noting here is that AMD's already confirmed that there's not gonna be a whole lot of manual overclocking Headroom on anzen - the reason for that is that they've already optimized their boosting algorithms pretty darn well so precision boost - does a fantastic job already of maximizing the performance of the silicon without users having to get their hands dirty and void their warranties not that we care much about that at all anyway on this channel but it is kind of nice that you're gonna be seeing a lot more performance squeezed out of these chips right out of the box it does kind of suck for enthusiasts because they don't get to see as big of gains with manually tinkering but Amy buddy did say that there should be a bit more headroom with their 65 watt TDP parts like the 3700 X because there's just less power going through them initially which means that there's more power to be squeezed out of them the reason I bring this up is because if there's not a huge reason to overclock these chips in the first place it kind of makes sense to put them into a system like this where cooling is very limited and restricts you from overclocking much anyway so it seems like a good use case scenario but we'll see how everything behaves once we've got those chips in here for now let's go ahead and get that bios updated so we can drop in that 12 core I gets hot well I hope it doesn't get too hot all right we have our 3900 ex installed it's sitting pretty idling right now anywhere in the 40s and 50s which isn't too bad actually but we'll see how it holds up under load but let's go ahead and start this test and see if the computer explodes starting now oh I'm also gonna start the timer here underway and CPU temperatures have spiked up to around 70 C as you can see it's just gonna keep climbing as we continue rendering hopefully it'll stop at some point for almost at 80 C now we look at our clock speeds clock speeds are actually looking really strong 4 gigahertz just there were 4 gigahertz on all cores not too shabby their PPI was doing a nice job of pushing all of our cores when and where it can fairly aggressively we're about maybe a quarter done with our render here doesn't seem to be any sort of thermal throttling as far as I can tell CPU utilization is close to a hundred percent that's really good and back to our temperatures here a TC so we're just gonna let this go for a while we'll let it finish up and then we'll talk about how the 3900 X did okay we're about to finish here and it looks like our max temp is about 94 C I'm gonna go ahead and stop this okay it just just done okay six whoa really six minutes and 49 seconds 2,700 under the same clip with the same effects in 13 minutes and 29 seconds this did it in 649 that's freakin insane now granted the trade-off is heat we did get a lot hotter than our 2700 as well which didn't really top 70 degrees C here we could see max temperature of 93 point nine it wasn't at 93.9 the whole time it's steadily climbed until it hit that at the very end that being said still a bit warmer than the second gen rising 2700 even with our 92 millimeter AIO I would honestly suggest at 240 red at minimum for the 3900 X but of course that's not always an option in the case this small so you can see here through the mesh you can see that ugly not to a fan that's our radiator fan it's right there so maybe if we just I don't know I'm just getting ideas right here just kind of spitballing here but if we like somehow mounted a fan and some little mod here where we could mount the fan like that maybe put a fan girl over it so you wouldn't make your fingers or anything that might do some additional cooling bring the temperatures down might even increase performance if we can get those PBO clocks up so why don't we why don't I give it a shot right now let's give it a try okay I spent all of sixty seconds setting this up this is just a concept I have it resting on one of the great prism RGB cooler the fan actually just a fan portion and it's not mounted or secured or anything it's just kind of sitting there but it's actually hugging it pretty nicely the cable is fortunately long enough to reach this other system right here it's literally just powered on just so we can power the fan it was just the quickest and easiest way to get the fan powered right now I think we are ready to go again let's go ahead and reset the status here oh I want to time it again as well because I want to see if the render speeds up with with lower temperatures if we even get lower times here or so ready set go start and let the render begin we actually need to give the CPU a chance to warm up here all right so now we're just over halfway done with our render and it looks like we are getting around 80 to 83 C it's probably still climbing to some degree unattended I think this is lower than what the last test was showing at this point in the encoding process our clock speeds are looking good as well still just about 4 gigahertz just under on all course looking pretty good so far of course there's always a give and take with these kinds of things and the take in this instance is noise my fan is a little bit noisy because it's on the outside of the case it's also up against the side panel that's not intended to have fans mounted to it so there's a bit of turbulence there but for the most part I would gladly take a little bit of extra noise for these much cooler temperatures oh I render is almost about to finish right hold on ready oh ok 6 do you want okay so about the same about the same score same time but you can see our max temp was 86 point six C much more favorable than the one 93 degrees on the last test so I mean just based on these results alone we're talking potentially a 10 degree Celsius drop on our CPU just from doing a little modification with adding a fan here and this isn't even optimal I mean this isn't even like super snug with a side panel that's not really conducive for fan mounting at all so what's the modification is done we're probably gonna see even better performance than we saw today which is just super exciting I'm super stoked that we were able to just drop a 3900 X in here and have it work beautifully I mean you wouldn't even think to put a 12 core Intel chip in here unless you had at least a 240 millimeter a IO so the fact that we're doing all this with a single 92 millimeter liquid cooler is phenomenal I just can't wait to show you guys the fallout video should be pretty awesome shooting this little video is actually getting me really excited for mini ITX X 570 boards because once those are ready we can drop that 3700 X in there and actually have full native support for PC a Gen 4 which means we can take some Gen 4 nvme drives potentially even raise them together and have a seriously killer editing system on the go ok for I faint I'm gonna get out of here guys thank you so much for watching this video to us all Lloyd got it before you go get subscribed for more tech stuff coming at you really soon and I will see you guys in the next video