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alright alright so we live to both Shh yeah more or less yeah good enough for me what's going on guys welcome back this is side B have awesome hardware episode 163 the date is September 25th we never read off the date you know yeah and we start doing that it really dates the show though really hmm very literal well that was so nice that that's why we're so good he's like a double entendre I think no it's not it's just just literally I'm reading into it too far clearly but welcome back welcome back or welcome for the first time if you're just joining us the first half of the show today's episode was streamed on Paul's YouTube channel if you weren't catching us on Twitch so you can actually head there if you're watching this after the fact after the live broadcast you can go to his channel youtube.com slash the beginning it's like the prequel it will show all the backstory to explain how we got to where we are now yeah you want a couple you won't understand anything we're saying if you 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now so thank you very much for for for supporting us in that way and just for for joining us for the show let's move on to tech news there's a few stories to talk about here there was anything super crazy happening this week in the industry but we're gonna we're gonna do our best to entertain you guys here the first story is from PC world our good friend and colleague Gordon MA um who works there wrote this article Thank You Gordon for this one at PC world it's about new egg and the fact that credit card information was stolen from from from the old tech retailer and this sophisticated heck yeah he's very sophisticated it good yeah it's like they were old pinkies up you know they had a monocle they're probably wearing monocles and so we need the classic the classic picture of like the hacker with the top hat whatever on but he's guys gonna be wearing with like a nice suit or something he looks like the planters peanut guy so he's still got the beanie over his head but nice suit sophisticated attack it's very chic balaclava it was it was skimming people's credit card information during the checkout process right I believe so yes yeah exactly during the checkout process you know well first off the the New Age servers were we're basically injected with a bit of malware is one of their servers okay yeah one one so there's one it's all took so this is important that like talking about a company like New Ager whatever they they don't have a single server that everyone is connecting to they have multiple servers so it only takes one parent Lee the hacker only had to get into one of them so it was only people who are connected to that specific server that would have been compromised I guess so so there are still some people who are safe i I I would imagine in that sense but but you don't know you don't know if you are a snoo it has proactively gone and contacted the people who were compromised which I don't know if they have done I feel like I bought something from them cuz all right here's the deal isn't it was found that all this credit card information was being sent to a domain that was registered as new egg stats calm and that domain was actually registered on August 16th so customers from that data on who purchased from new egg starting from August 16th Ford are likely affected but like Paul said since it was only one server that was hacked or attacked we don't really know who's safe and who's not so it's just best to assume that you've been compromised in some way it's always best to assume that you've been affected if you better say sorry made a purchase like made a purchase doing that date so and also double check your emails and stuff to see if new wakes reached out to you I think I made a purchase from Newegg since that date and I have not received any contact from them I don't know it doesn't mean it's for everyone and also this doesn't just affect you know your credit card information being stolen it also has the potential to affect pre-orders I actually saw Wendell tweet about this is how I picked up on this news story in the first place what Wendell from level 1 Tex he tweeted that Newegg had actually canceled his r-tx 20 atti order his pre-order because his card was stolen but Newegg never reached out to Wendell and said hey can we get a replacement credit card do you have a valid credit card that we can still that way we can still get your order through they just straight up cancelled it and didn't tell him and so now he's he's got to wait a lot longer for a 22 TI to arrive so he was wasn't too too thrilled about that so it's actually affecting you know people in multiple ways but yeah this this is the if you want to give credit to these assholes there was a very similar attack by the same group against British Airways and Ticketmaster the hacking group is known only as some stupid name it's like really you couldn't have come up with something I didn't write it down because it was so stupid just just for the record Cal is the one who's throwing out insults at the hacking group mage cart what a stupid awful name I'm just asking for it no I whatever it makes sense because you know their majors like they do magic they like do hacks and stuff and a shopping in your shopping cart digital card so you know I take back everything I said I love you guys you know like cheers you're doing doing the Lord's work my friend hacking is a gift to all of us and it should be it should be praised so don't know need to know need to look at my pages anytime soon all right cubot hope hope everyone's information safe out there uh use two-factor authentication everyone there you I don't know how to pronounce this manly manly I want to say manly mommy cause that on me I think there's only two possibilities modeling where you put the accent and the other manly or a modeling bond lean on lean manly is it motley or monthly it's where you put the accent and the emphasis where are they located what how you put the pronunciation Asia and Middle Eastern Asia and Middle East is the market they usually dominate um but anyway regardless of how to pronounce their name I'm just gonna say manly cuz it makes me happy this is GPU board partner who has just announced their RT X xx atti in 2080 Gallardo yeah I got okay it's a double L and I'm thinking it's like Spanish maybe yeah because you've got right because you've got what is that word from like like the Lamborghini there's a Lamborghini Gallardo I believe so I don't know I guess that means it's fast I don't know what Gallardo's means in whatever language that is at any rate we're talking about the cars here you can see that it's got a pretty premium looking you know triple fan heatsink design you're right what there's a Lamborghini right oh yeah fact checking me bro its fact check it means from 2014 let's go say night 562 horsepower yet obviously sold it's all common knowledge I was born with a jeweled tank capacity of 23.8 yellen's see if so gay oh yeah yeah you're right now it's Italian it's Italian sorry it's the type of bulls as Samwise thank you Sam so it's interesting Denis McGee our dough we our dough when they're not when they don't service the European market anyway he was a trying to evoke the name of the Lamborghini girl perhaps there were some crossover there's better marketing insinuate that the card is fast like fast and sports luxurious anyway for its it's pretty decent looking car doesn't look terrible or anything it looks like it's got some aluminum plated shroud elements gold silver and black for as far as the color scheme is just like a Trojan shogen Spartan thing a helmet helmet no I it's it looks like a logo they're just sort of playing with I don't I don't know if that's like their actual logo I think they just created that logo just specifically for this line of cards there's RGB lighting who knew and they've they've also designed a blower fan RTX 2080 that i don't care about and you shouldn't either unless you really need a blower fan style RTX 2018 possible you might need it just it's not sure how quiet it would be or cool I might be interested if it actually costs $600 yeah 700 wait what's it yes yeah yup six these will probably not hit retailers in Asia or the Middle East till mid October but there's also no pricing on here I'm probably in some currency we don't simply I'm beginning review anyway ggc's there one in chat who knows more about fancy sports cars than we do says Gallardo's Spanish every Lamborghini card has been a famous bull name and they're all in Spain see I said I said first thing I said was a chat someone in chat said that so most I deserve a cashew yeah so um oh just thought I'd point this out cuz you know I feel like except Countach I was gonna say is a Countach is a type of bullet the Lamborghini Countach lemme sounds like a swarm what'd you say what vagina like to settle in to no one else somebody else must have no I definitely get where you're coming from come to every time trying to make it vulgar Kyle oh it's actually the name of the car yes and that's how they sell it right yeah pure sex 74 to 1990 was when they were produced no can touch it oh that's the name of that's clearly you know the most iconic super cars of all time manly should take some notes the r-tx 2080 Countach that would be there you go that's that's successful yard Oh unless it's trademarked by Lamborghini I didn't know that bowls up and he had so many different names I don't think this is a bull name so no that's all except for this car this was a unique and special okay I don't know I mean where else it's also like twitch chat so you know who knows um Lamborghini Red Bull uh all right so that's that's news that's that's some news let's move on good idea now you know there's a new graphics card that exists PC gaming prices PC gaming hardware prices are supposed to be rising very soon if not immediately due to the Trump tariffs that have come to affect for the United States and it's barely gonna get worse as this frickin very clickbait headlines to suggests as of yesterday this is from Dave James at PC games n and on September 21st which was four days ago you're watching this live Trump finalized the tariffs on 200 billion dollars of Chinese imports and gigabyte was seemingly the first one in in the PC space to really speak out about this with an announcement they they said terribly effective September 24th yesterday 2018 and initially will be an amount of 10% 10% 10% perhaps 10% penalties on on all their products now maybe not all their products but all the ones you care about really the products that have tariffs enforced on them coming from China right now the amount is 10% but it's supposed to increase supposed to go up on January 1st I believe the 25% she's nuts and gigabyte in their announcement their little post there they actually listed out all the parts that would be affected fortunately you want to worry about like keyboard and mice really keyboard and mice are largely unaffected unless they're bundled with PC parts like DIY parts which is what is mostly affected here everything from the motherboard to the graphics card to the CPU cooler is a CPU I don't see CPU there actually but everything else in a system besides a CPU everything else in a system that you know the 7 or your opponents they're talking specifically about the parts that gigabyte will be terrified on that gigabyte makes yes and gigabyte makes a lot of different products yeah so CPUs are I would I would I would assume because all those parts are that it's it's CPU xored in the exact exact same category and that CPUs would also be taxed the same so the entire build essentially could get a 25% price hike yes $1000 $1000 PC by January 1st could potentially cost thousand hundred and no one thousand twelve hundred and fifty five hundred and fifty dollars if it switches in a linear fashion and then if you got to pay like freaking tax on that still like my god so I don't know it's also interesting because the the article was saying that that certain companies like maybe gigabyte or ACS like the big dogs and stuff that the big ad board partners could potentially shift some of their manufacturing over to Taiwan I don't know how feasible that would be for them if it if that would be even more expensive but assuming let's just hypothetically say that they could do that gigabyte already has some mag factories in Taiwan in Taiwan right typically it's more expensive to produce stuff in Taiwan than it is mainland China right but it does seem like these tariffs are only affecting goods shipping it from mainland China Renata I want Taiwan has a sort of complicated and difficult to describe relationship with well they with China Taiwan Taiwan and China and also how the u.s. views Taiwan I was under the impression that US viewed Taiwan and China is the same that's China's policy they I think officially they don't recognize Taiwan as its independent they do not from a governmental perspective but Taiwan is very independent they have their own government they have their own currency and T vs versus steel on that that China uses so they're very independent in a lot of ways the US government does not view them as independent from China because they don't wanna piss off China and that pisses off China when you try to say Taiwan separate but economically there's a lot of there's a lot of economic stuff going on between the US and Taiwan so the u.s. is a little bit more protective I feel like of the economic side than they are of the government side and that's as far as I want to go into it right now because again it's a very complex situation and I don't want to try to try to explain something that I don't have any business try to explain yeah point being though if they can shift stuff to be imported from Taiwan versus imported from mainland China then there might be a way to get around some of the tariffs but there's limitations on just just volume in size Taiwan is a much smaller physical location it's an island off the coast of China versus mainland China itself and where a lot of the manufacturing goes on there so the main questions right now our will exceptions be made there's a bunt there were a bunch of people that put a big stinks over certain tariffs going on with imports and certain industries are able to lobby the government to have changes made or exceptions made those exceptions made right now for notebooks for example notebooks aren't from from China aren't having the tariffs imposed on them but components are supposed to be so this is a weird situation where like if I buy a whole computer is that that mean that whole computer I can buy and the parts will have been able to have been imported tariff-free but if I'm buying the individual parts those will have tariffs on them systems integrators who build the computers here but import the individual parts from China are in a very tough situation right now because they're dealing with the tariffs on the imports but you know they still have to sell their hardware and if you're if you're not sure how this actually works the way the tariffs work is is the company that the company in the US that's buying the stuff from China is who pays the terrorists so I've had a few people who have said like yeah stick it to China with the tariffs that's not how it works you're sticking to the US sticking it to the people in the US us trying to sporting goods from China right so yeah and and the other thing is is that like it could further - or further widen the gap between smaller adding board partners for example versus the larger ones if the smaller adding board partners are not able to shift over they're manufacturing over to Taiwan for example and they're stuck exclusively trying to export their shit from China from mainland China then they they might they might fall by the wayside they might pull out of selling to the US entirely maybe say alright you know while these tariffs are going on we're just gonna sell to like Asia and the Middle East we're gonna we're gonna follow manly you know with our dough and shit and just say fuck the US so and so so you might have more limited options not just more expensive prices at the other day but more limited than right now maybe it'd be as much competition at the end of the day as well so I don't know there's there's a lot of ways it could go it's probably gonna be bad either way we just don't know how how bad yeah you know there's the theoretical numbers the the 10 percent right now and the 25 percent come the turn of 2019 but we don't know exactly if that's gonna scale one to one with the prices we'll see so we'll just have to wait and see a lot of wait and see all right all right moving mode on uh AMD AMD is you know under the microscope right now have been checked out by well first off this articles from mark Campbell I thought it says mark Campbell at first got excited I was like oh he's in the tech oc3 net this is a I guess this was discovered by some Linux enthusiasts at fir onyx who discovered a new Polaris part was in AMD's latest AMD GPU Linux kernel patches this was known as or listed as 0x6 FDF which has not popped up before so it indicates a new SKU and now there are rumors of a potential Polaris Polaris 30 GPU launching which would I guess there were previous rumors of this and now they're sort of resurfacing because of this discovery not much is known here some some people are speculating that this will be more or less a refresh of the rx 580 for example where we might see something like an rx 680 that just has some you know sort of Jen over gen you know 12 nanometer performance uplift maybe around 10 to 15% I think people are suggesting around a 15% improvement in performance over in rx 580 which would outpace the GTX 1066 gigabyte model sure and it could probably you know knowing AMD that will price it hopefully they can price it fairly to make it more competitive with the 1060 um so it's kind of like one of those things where it's like you know more competitions always good but I also feel like this isn't really what enthusiasts need right now is it competitor to the 1060 I feel like what I would be looking for from AMD desperately especially now is like competition in the higher-end space maybe with you know sticking it to the the RT X 2080 or even the RT X 2070 you know I feel like that the 27 t like Paul was saying like that's usually that that 70 skew from Nvidia has always been that sort of bang for the buck option where you get the best price performance and you know you have enough bankroll to to sort of throw down on a 1070 versus or a 70 SKU versus little money left over for the rest of your system that's right so I feel like that's much more of an accessible card that still delivers incredible performance that a lot of people are really seeking you know with just high refresh rates and high resolutions that you know hyper 10 as Aleutians and stuff like that so I would have liked to see I would have liked to see a little bit more from AMD right now but at the same time I wasn't really expecting to I was expecting more of this of maybe something more in the mid-range entry level that would still be a great card still probably gonna be perfectly fine and you know could be even a better deal than the gtx 1066 gig but you know it still it still leaves invidia as the only player in the high-end game which i really you know it's like how it's the same same deal with intel you know intel is the only player in the high-end cpu space until Rison came out and really gave them a run for their money so I'd like to see that same sort of competition brought on that side but be nice there you go you guys let me know what do you think do you care yeah or is it like super stud are you excited like what do you think how you feeling not particularly because it's existing architecture you know it's it's the slight die shrink but not a massive one the seven nanometer stuff is what I'm most anticipating Navi to actually have an impact on the hand and maybe maybe show in video some competition you know right now there's already somewhat reasonable competition in the mid-range I mean having something a little bit faster than an RX 580 would I mean that's nice it'll be nice to have as another option but it's less exciting compared to something that will actually compete with NVIDIA with the stuff that they're currently launching the RT X series which they feel comfortable enough launching at crazy prices that are higher than any GPU series has launched about that before right that's that's aimed at a consumer market yeah so Reed badges are always like okay now this exists that I don't know to me I never get super excited about them so I don't know maybe to wait for another year and that's something I feel like AMD's always a year behind Nvidia in the GPU space if not more they're always a year behind that they said there we're gonna have something 7 nanometre yeah is you by the end of this year yeah but I mean I feel like it was phrased in such a way that they also said I don't know Elsa said Vega was first gonna launch like at the end of 2015 or something so yeah Green assault I guess yeah all right well that's pretty much no no there's one more little thing here sorry you have two more little two more things some somewhat good news here from overclocked 3d once again there are some good SSD prices right now so basically I would just this is really quick just just to give you guys a heads up go go by these SSDs now because pretty soon they could be a lot more expensive with all the US tariffs if you were in the United States if you're not in the United States then that doesn't apply to you but this is our super collect 3d article from the UK yeah exactly because the u.s. is screwed but some of these prices are really good you know that the cost per gigabyte for foreign and flash storage is just dropped significantly yeah over the last few months and some of these options here they've listed the the Kingston si 400 the SanDisk SSD plus and the crucial bx 500 these are all fairly budget oriented drives they're not the fastest on the market by any means or still say they're ev3 based and even by those standards they're not like you know on the samsung 970 evo type levels or whatever but they're still significantly faster and perform much better than like your standard mechanical hard drive and if you're looking for an entry-level or even a mid-range system throw an SSD in there to get some faster load times then this is like just I wouldn't just if you need it buy it right now because they're really dirt cheap even in the u.s. right now I check the amazon.com the US Amazon prices for these three SKUs earlier today and they're about as cheap as they are here in the UK so that's good news and they've got sort of a range here you can go even all the way up to the the 960 gig SSDs I saw them as a 960 gig SSD I saw as cheap as like 130 bucks so pretty impressive this is a 480 gig I switched it to us prices yeah oh okay don't reveal any details I got all my nudes you know uploaded to the Amazon that's all great 480 but yeah nice 500 gig class SSDs for like 80 bucks 85 bucks that's a it's really nice yeah I mean I've been looking forward to the point when SSDs were like a cheap commodity item where it's so she's like I just throw 500 gig SSD in there yeah it's cheap yep whatever ideally we'll get to a point where like one terabyte SSDs are even more viable yeah but so cool and then our final story for today before we dive into pimp my PC this is an article from our good friend Anthony from tweet town he was one of the the only people that I could find to report on just a smorgasbord of leaked pictures featuring brand-new Zee 390 motherboards from Asus I think they're all from Asus there's a lot of boards here so I'm gonna just quickly go over them in order of appearance was critical at the top sorry if there's any ads that play on the tweak town site they they are pretty ad heavy at times aka all times you block the okay great the ROG Maximus 11 code which I believe is the first port up there no I'm sorry yeah yeah this is the code it's got a massive vrm heatsink and you can see that it's it's kind of following the theme of you know Intel mainstream boards with four dimm slots and it looks very much kind of like I think the lower half reminds me of like the rampage 6 extreme board that sort of cover plate it's been illuminated and stuff the giant I guys I'm brushed aluminum plating there's RGB up the wazoo you can see it's all over the eye of cover that that bracket and you can see that I'm glad they stopped putting the g/b unlike the clasps for the PCIe instead it just looked tacky yeah Santa's got Steve's got our Chatham RGB and then even a surface mount of power and resets got some RGB there that's kind of cool that's the first time I've ever seen configurable surface mounted power of LEDs to be honest and then we've also got I counted up the fan headers on that board seven fan headers no visible n dot 2 slots I'm sure there's plenty and this is the RG Maximus 11 so this is not the code this is the anti code some differences here is the first off it's black and white and I also don't know if this is RGB or if has any illumination it's kind of hard to tell from this picture obviously but there's definitely a sort of a black and white theme going on here which is kind of new for Asus in recent years I haven't really seen many boards in there asus rog sort of lineup though the prime their private Prime's yes it's been all but I mean just for this sort of ROG style board definitely not so it's pretty cool I like it you know um if you if you want to do some black and white it's very color neutral you can still mix in a third a third colour their primary color and there may be a VRM waterblock yep from ek nonetheless and it's a similarly huge heatsink that we saw on the code board um so yeah that board looks good we don't have any prices or anything like that and then there's the Maximus 11 hero boards which you know that one features a standard sort of asus rog design kind of basic probably cheap much cheaper I kind of like what Asus has been doing for a couple generations now where they take sort of a design on the top and they continue it come from the top left of the board to the bottom right like these kind of /yeah across the board because the GPU is gonna fill in that gap right yeah and so it still looks pretty continuous and especially if you've got you know some issues or a sink lighting going on there with your GPU and your board I'm sure you could make the whole effect go across the whole entire thing all of these have had a USB 3.1 gen2 port yep on them too so cool and then that's pretty much it some other notable mentions you want to quit oh yeah I was Call of Duty themed one I'm sure that'll you know ya hit with the cod fans black ops the cod blopps is what it is what for two blobs for coops for umm I got kind of excited when I saw the asus strix mini ITX board down there i don't know if you can go over that one little mini ITX board so there's another one he's red I don't like the ones with the text on here we go that this looks nice even though there's a little text in the car it's not very visible it's very minimal umm yes they're doing like they did before then there's a there's a colorful sticker and then there's also a non colorful sticker in the box right you can swap it out uh so yeah um this is this looks very similar to all their previous generations with that sort of very silvery aluminum finish and you can't go wrong can't go wrong with that guy and then the RGB on the side I feel about the RGB on the side but I don't mind it I don't mind it but I'm not like yeah it's nice yeah I mean that's not a must-have yep uh and then the issues Prime series let's just go to the Prime series because the prime series which is the more white boards that you were mentioning Paul earlier those are actually looking pretty cool that's what they switch up to the design of those as well you can kind of see that it's got more of a polygonal design sort of geometrical polygon well I don't know it's got a hex it looks like a stop sign on the vram heatsink are the chipset heatsink oh yeah but you know part of your graphics card will cover that up yeah I mean I like the way they look I kind of like the the RGB element the implementation there where it's kind of just like this patch on both sides that's kind of kind of different it's like it matches with the geometrical style oh yeah yeah it's like it's kind of diffused or yeah right gradient or something and you know it's always hard to tell it's sort of gauge from these pictures how the lighting and stuffs gonna look in real life but I'm sure we'll get our hands on looks like it's exploding I don't like this one there's an explosion is the center of the motherboard this one gives me vertigo I can't that it's yeah it's like you're looking down at a pit pit of despair sketchy so that's some z9b is e3 90 AC Sergey and instead of action for you guys cool um all right let's move on to pin my PC yeah we get to pin value openings starting with math you need to update your pet my PC for over here Oh AMD rise in 1600 X's from Matthew he has a risin 1600 X in aces crosshair hero 6 16 gigs of G scale 3200 speed shred in RGB asus strix gtx 1070 and a DIY pc case can't remember the model name and an inner max AIO alright so that's the library I haven't seen and that's the lie bridge like that huh looks kind of um ok Matthew uh I don't know there's a lot of potential here but I think your rig needs help in a couple different ways I think the ketchup and mustard though that's that means bullseye right in the middle of your system is ketchup and mustard right there yeah you know might as well get some extensions for your graphics card as well your 24 pin that would clean things up go with black you go with white I see some white accents in here like on that a oh and I also think the red is kind of sticking out on that SSD sticker so maybe peel that off again does all aesthetic and whatnot and of course subject to personal tastes if you're gonna go as far as to peel off the SSD sticker I would also say pull your optical drive and see if you can either do a wrap or a paint job on it yeah it's that that sort of that off-white that sort of off-white color doesn't really that's like those sore thumb the old school PC look but it stands out a lot you know you've got a what I think is an RGB controller you Thermaltake that's just kind of chilling in there too yeah it's I mean it's probably you probably just routed it over there and placed it somewhere where it was accessible but it doesn't look that great yeah and I'm guessing I'm guessing he did it because there's not much room behind his motherboard yes the DIY PC case so so I don't know maybe you could put it under your graphics card where it's just a little bit more out of sight it's like and the controller doesn't let me look that bad it's just the cables coming out of it so maybe stick that under your graphics cards let's get some velcro tape this is a two-way gtx 1070 configuration you don't see 1070 sli much yeah I wonder if he got one you know you must not have watched my video and another one clearly not a fan um but you know that's I'd like I'd like to see a picture of the entire case DIY PC I've had a few experiences with and they haven't all been positive so yeah you know this could be something where a case upgrade might give you some more options to work with and everything I mean overall system doesn't look bad at all this picture looks worse because there's a flash so it's making everything stand out more the lights on and everything doesn't look too bad so yeah a few of these suggestions should help move you along towards a system that is it's pretty you can look at and be happy that it's pretty yep thanks Matthew Thank You Matthew next we have gay porn stuntman nice he does all of his own stunts doesn't make him gay though just cuz he's a gay porn stuntman does not make him gay he just sucks all the dicks for for for the cinema I believe what you should be saying is there's not there's anything wrong with that there is there's that there is but sure I'd be kind of curious I'm kind of curious like a day-to-day like if like I want to watch a video that follows him around with his job and everything like that that'd be fascinating I'm actually watching I think you could do it tastefully anyway he's got an i7 6700k overclocked to 4.6 gigahertz ASUS Maximus formula Maximus 8 formula gtx 980ti OC 970 evo 2 terabyte WD black 6 terabytes 6 I'm sorry 32 gigs of g.skill 32 hundred megahertz memory the coarser a x86 TI power supply Windows 10 and in a Corsair obsidian 450d case case master fan Pro RGB fans it's his first build ever he wants crits to good pitches criticism criticism cable management alright let's give him all the criticisms right off the bat um all right you know I think this is a really nice system honestly it looks very nice it's very sexy and I think that your cable management's great on the backside for sure yeah and the front side even it's pretty tight the back looks better than the front for some reason yeah it does yeah you spent a lot of time back there all those velcro ties and stuff it looks very clean you can definitely see like the routing sort of lanes that you you figured out there but on the other side I also want to point out he's either doing some interior decorating or something or that's like a kill room he's got set up in the back oh that's a Dexter kill room for obviously a kill room so gay porn stuntmen has become even more mysterious with this just maybe that's a gay porn stuff that he's doing over there alright so what I want to feel like so sorry you're not gonna like this answer gay porn stuntman but I think you need to add some extensions which will kind of cause you to have to redo all of the pretty cable management behind your motherboard yeah but I think that's the only way it's gonna happen it seems like you enjoy cable management at the very least so you probably won't mind so much doing it again because you've already put the time in the first time around I think it's gonna help the look of your system so much more though even just to get some like nice clean black extensions but whether you go paracord or you know what's what's PT PT PT whether you go like the sort of plastic key or the fabric route I think either way what will boost the look of your system tenfold because yeah yeah they're black but they're also kind of rubbery and kind of glossy there's that heat shrink around there that nasty heat shrink a big old heat shrink not my favorite and it only stands out because everything else in the system is pretty really color matched so yes very black I don't even mind the power supply sticker because it's just that little speck of red there yes it's not bad at all um and everything else looks really good you know I'm actually not opposed to the sort of velcro straps around the tubes a if it's done right looks like you've done a pretty good job there oh I'm up and out of the way yep and it's pretty much it man you do that and you're solid I think all right let's move on thank you for your submission gay porn Stephanie won't stop man that's what we got John John the Clingman Johnny Johnny core i5 8600 K gigabyte Z 370 Mini ITX 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance Pro 1 terabyte hard drive a sapphire rx 588 gigabyte card and an NZXT 200 it's of course a mini ITX case to house that a little motherboard there no I think the submission because I think it has so much potential um it already looks really clean but there's just a couple little very minor very easy to fix quick fixes that you could you could add here to really amp it up a notch so for starters I love the fans I love the case fans are those ll series they they might be and I like that you've also slapped one onto your CPU cooler heatsink I think that's very matchy-matchy that was a good call I like the custom sleeved cables here however I think the cable management for your SATA cable in particular that one case a the cable could maybe go underneath that reservoir bar on your case instead of crossing over it's possible that's a USB 3 oh is it oh you might be right it fits a unit if it's a USB 3 it might be too tall on the plug side to can't get a right angle to go under that bar which might be why it's like that I could be wrong about this it's it's it's hard to say Ben from the picture no that's that's definitely possible but I feel like even if it's USB 3 you can bend it not even right angle but just straight back like do a full 180 enhance but that USB 3 cable is very malleable and hats you could definitely you could definitely get that under there oh that's USB that's definitely USB oh thank you for that enhance zoom in a little so that's that's a 20 pin for your mistake from far away it looks like it could be anything so I would definitely say you could try I think it's very possible could you try theirs also right-angle extensions I've seen for usb3 that'd be a clean option that could also be a potential choice there but but honestly before any of that you like you just you really need a new CPU cooler yeah I mean maybe at least a nicer heatsink you you can buy CPU coolers that just have the heatsink and then just slap that fan on there because it's a really nice fan yeah stick with the fan that's fine speaking of fans I think you could use some additional fans right any fans at the front of the case there's any intake here unless they're in front of the the dust filter not that I can see so I did find kind of peculiar because that would bring the fan the blades closer to the front panel which would cut them off here for airflow a bit more than if they were inside the actual frame we have negative pressure so I I don't know I think I don't think you necessarily need to buy more l-series RGB fans or anything like that but just some healthy airflow going to your video card especially because that GPU is so close to the shroud of the power supply I think it could use some additional lift there but apart from that all right clean thank you John thanks John moving on to Alex Alex all right he's got a girl he built it for his girlfriend all right off the specs one drink beer this is a risin 7 1700 X based system with 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance lpx 2400 speed memory that's a 4 by 4 gig kit asus strix be 315 motherboards otech gtx 1070 for graphics card and EVGA 6 and what bronze power supply and of course I found a 400-seat case ok first thing I would upgrade in this system are a 600 watt bronze Parsley's nothing wrong with that first thing I would upgrade upgrade from a practical standpoint would be your memory kit get jumpin up it's like a 3,000 at 3200 speak it would get you a bit more performance out of your CPU we get overclocked it even overclocking is you're not I mean you could overclock the memory yeah but you you're probably not gonna get too much more out of a 2400 speed kit you never know though so sure tried overclock your memory for beyond that aesthetically yes the ketchup and mustard cables are standing out that is the trade-off for the very inexpensive EVGA 500 be 600 B power supply and why does the case have a shroud over that area and not the actual unit is that like a good question I've never received that what just the case maybe he removed the maybe there was a part of the shroud every R over over that unit and he removed it it could be it looks like a two-parter it looks like a two-part shroud but I can't be sure that's really peculiar though because those are same ugly cable had one I'd want to cover that up all right um that knocked to a fan is great but yeah this is a great knock to a cooler stands up aesthetically conflicted because it's a good cooler so maybe get some chrome axe action in there yeah yeah I get the chromatics upgrade for that beyond that I mean when you upgrade your power supply you could maybe tidy up the cable management down here a little bit and that would be pretty much the that's what I would recommend and if you do get a new power supply it maybe flip it to fans yes and fan down would be a better choice they'd some dust filtration there let's dust thanks Alex thank you Alex and then finally for our last critique here is Nick thanks bear Rison v 1600 a HyperX LED cooler at be 350 msi tomahawk motherboard EVGA 5 hooded BQ power supply a GTX 1080 for the win DT 16 gigabyte what is DT DT I think that was a cheaper yeah the DT I think they were less expensive than the oh wow I never even heard that they can't when it I need a double check yeah well we'll look into that chat I'm sure you're on it OD tuned ok yep 16 gigs of DDR 420 400 megabytes Hertz I think you meant of ram kingston 240 SSD and Rozsival case that has made it three built so I but I guess he's been using this case for three different builds so far I need a new case pronto I have mismatched memory ah my PC oh wow there's a lot of cabling going on here damn so you're right you need a new case I hate these these five and a quarter inch the worse those bracket things ear cancer especially when they have this like red accent that stands out they're just plants that good thing those are really annoying all right you got cable cables all over the place in here which is probably again a factor of the case and probably not being able to route stuff behind the motherboard tray so a new case would potentially help you out there yep again we have an EVGA power supply I'd say models ketchup and mustard cables up here it might be blocked nude black if I'm gonna be Q this might be a slightly newer version that has all black cables still food but yeah it definitely flipped that that would be a better situation for you and remove whatever stickers on the other side of the power supply if you were gonna flip it or if you're not gonna flip it just remove that sticker like that out and then is it there's a I don't know a CPU cooler is a good mother grouping of cables over here underneath the CPU cooler that are yellow and black and red mmm and it's probably from this fan it's probably really crappy fan you know and this is bunch stuff down there so it could plug into a head or it there room but that looks gross yeah I don't like it get a new fan there's also a new case a weird cable coming up here which i think is for the fan for the cooler master you heat sink fan so going through the blades the fins on the heatsink that's that's that best practice also this little sticker you can just rip that off that's okay new case that cable management case tree drew the kill management's that'll help a lot yeah I mean cable extensions other than that you know you got a solid configuration as far as a six core CPU and a GTX 1080 and 16 gigs in memory I mean it's it's a good configuration here again I would say upgrading the memory kit to something 3030 to hundreds peter better yeah what would give me a decent old formitz boost - that's always recommended with rising but yeah get a new case Nick I appreciate you reusing the same case three for three different builds but that means resourceful that is it is now highly priority list for being replaced mm-hmm this is an honorable mention moment I like this admission this is from Kevin he has a core i7 8086 K at five point two gigahertz and of course 32 gigs of 3000 megahertz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro an h1 50 I cooler ASUS Maximus 10 code EVGA 1080 TI for the 1-3 icx samsung 970 1 terabyte they're all in the corsair 570 ex mirror black monitor is an alienware 34 40 by 1440 older why this guy has gone all out the specs on this thing are pretty insane I was also gonna point out this picture where he has his color-coordinated pink and blue colors also has the reflection of his keyboard which is also color-coordinated yep it's very hot line esque which is what caught my eye in particular so the colour matching is on point those those Corsair elf ll series fans are doing work son they look really good in here like hey you've color synced everything everything is already color neutral when the lights are off it's very you know very black I will say I know this is an honorable mention but because everything is all black this could use a little bit of a wipe down that's all yes yeah you can see the fingerprints yep I noticed you wipe down that's all we're asking yeah treat it like a lady and Haley is also a prime contender for a lucky cable extension upgrade kit look at the other picture he switched oh he did it looks like he did get an upgrade there I was gonna point that out in the lip picture oh you're right yeah he's got some sexy keels so this must be maybe sort of a laughter there you go then oh yeah okay nothing to add no looks good man oh then Kevin well then I thank you guys for submitting if you didn't get picked this week maybe you will sure thank you all for participating and that's gonna do it for my half of the show so don't go anywhere stay on twitch actually do go somewhere if you're on youtube right now follow us on Twitter TV / awesome hardware right now because we're gonna maybe play some games and as I as I promised I'm gonna try to unbox that gigabyte card and see see what it looks like these stuff that'd be cool it's a r-tx 2080 or 2080 I forget but on that note thank you for watching thank you for being here also we'll do johnson shoutouts and donations and stuff like that on the after party and feel free to do timestamps for my half feel free to like on it and we love you thank you so much