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Walmart's new Gaming PCs don't look quite right

2018-11-14
so Walmart must have finally caught on to the whole pub key for tonight and eSports phenomenon and looked at the whole landscape of gaming and said we can make a boatload of money if we just sell some gaming pcs and that's exactly what they've done they've recently announced a new line of gaming laptops and desktops called overpowered or Opie that they've done in collaboration with the eSports Arena company and so far a lot of tech news outlets are giving this line high praise saying the core specs are pretty decent and the pricing is relatively fair for what you're getting but what are you getting really the inner Mac's like fusion 240 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler features a one-of-a-kind RGB sink water block with built-in flow indicator static pressure optimized RGB fans and a high-efficiency ceramic bearing pump for exceptional durability and noiseless operation click on the link below to learn more anyway though I'm trying to stay optimistic with this whole gaming line thing but at the same time I don't want Walmart to follow suit with a lot of existing system integrators who sell very affordable pre-built at the expense of cutting corners where they shouldn't throwing dirt cheap cases into their systems or really cheap power supplies that blow out in the first 6 months just so that they can make their margins and the last thing I want is a bunch of kids or adults going out and buying these systems because they're there and they're relatively affordable and they have all these really good core specs and then finding out too late that they bought a junk rig so yeah I've seen how some s eyes make their money I don't agree with it fully and I'm hoping that Walmart isn't going down the same path I can't say for sure just yet and there's still gonna be a lot of questions that go unanswered in this video because we only have so much information to work with but we're at least gonna be looking at that information more closely today so we can infer some things about these systems now I'm gonna save the gaming laptops for another video we're only gonna be taking a look at the gaming desktop starting with the dtw one at thirteen hundred and ninety nine dollars DTW two at 1899 and the dtw 3 at 2099 US you can see the cases look pretty identical and they each have a core i7 8700 from Intel this is a non case Q you won't be able to do any CPU overclocking on any of these systems as you might expect we've got different graphics cards for each of these systems starting with the gtx 1070 moving up to a gtx 1080 and then finally a gtx 1080 TI we're also upgrading the memory slightly going from 16 gigs to 32 gigs and again 32 gigs storage is the only other major change between these systems as far as I could tell with a 256 gig SSD on the dtw one and then the other two have a 512 gig SSD I believe all of them however do you have a mechanical hard drive probably of 2 terabytes let me double check yeah they all feature a 2 terabyte 7200 rpm mechanical drive now we're only gonna be taking a closer look at the dt w1 for today because we can assume that the other systems are put together in a very similar fashion with the same quality and so forth so again this is the one featuring the gtx 1070 first let's take a look at the core specs here the list is fairly vague again we have that Intel Core i7 8700 with a geforce gtx 1070 with 8 gigs of VRAM now there's no manufacturer or adding board partner listed here we'll take a closer look at that in the pictures in just a moment from memory we have 16 gigs of ram at 24 40 megahertz first of all it's funny that they don't list ddr4 even though that's relatively implied and this is a very peculiar Ram speed indicating that you know this is probably just sort of a OAM kit that's being sold exclusively to system integrators that you can't find on the market because I have never seen a kit of ddr4 at this rated speed you guys let me know if you've seen otherwise storage is 2 terabyte hard drive 256 gig SSD also no manufacturer Windows 10 B already and a bunch of other basic specs so assessing this at face value right off the bat it looks and sounds like a pretty powerful system I mean you've got a core i7 8700 a gtx 1070 your ears kind of perk up when you hear those specs and you go hey that's that's a pretty fast rig and i'm sure it probably is but let's take a look at some of the finer print and details here starting with the case let's take a look at some photos shall we now from the outside it looks like a pretty proper case you got tempered glass on the front inside if that's what you're into you got RGB fans I would imagine that this is RGB because why not as 2018 bitches and it looks relatively clean and simple and straightforward now something else that's interesting about this photo is that if you look at the rear exhaust fan you can see that it's kind of eclipsed by this rectangular shape right where the CPU cooler would be meaning that this is probably an aftermarket heatsink tower design cooler and we don't have to deal with an Intel stock cooler in one of these systems if this picture is accurate assuming so that's good that means we're gonna see potentially lower temperatures and noise profile at least for the cooling solution on our CPU if you look at the back of the case there are a couple things that stand out to me for starters we've got this power supply cut out that looks a little on the cheap side I mean I'm not gonna judge a case by its PSU cutout because that's a saying but I don't know it just it just doesn't look super high quality to me looks it looks kind of thin and flimsy because you could really see the the cutout edges and sort of see that it wasn't painted on the inside there and also the thumb screws on the left side panel or I guess on the right side panel are relatively cheap looking obviously the ones on the tempered glass look fine but these ones look small and they look a little plastic key if they're plastic that's a sign right there and also I just noticed I skimmed over this initially but maybe you guys caught it if you look at this the front IO if you look at the actual case ports we have three USB 2.0 ports no mention of any USB 3.0 ports it's 20 18 people and there are no USB 3 ports on this case that is a red flag that this is no more than a $60 case if I were to take my best guess so it looks really nice but when you take a closer look that's not entirely the case pun intended now what we just learned some things about this case from looking at its behind this picture also tells us some things about the other components in the system for one we've got this case fan that's included again it's probably RGB or even if it's not who cares looks to be a 120 millimeter fan I don't see any red flags right off the bat but to the left of that we can see our motherboards rear i/o which gives us a couple warnings that this might be a budget option for starters we've got two ps2 ports now you would not even a combo port just like one for Mouse and one for keyboard and we have a single d-sub VGA port not that you're gonna need any video outs most likely from your motherboard because we've got two discrete GPU here but even on budget boards you typically see a DVI port there as well maybe an HDMI but no you just get VGA d-sub which again indicates that this is a relatively cheap board and then I think the biggest indicator here that we're a pretty entry-level is two USB ports even some of the 60 or $70 B 360 options have more than two USB 3 ports so again I'm not exactly sure what motherboard this is but I have a pretty good idea of how much Walmart might have spent on it just below we see the rear i/o for our video card which is evidently rocking the two slot design and the reference video outputs for Pascal a3 DisplayPort one HDMI and one dueling DVI what really gave this card away as to what it might be however was seemingly the least important thing on this back panel which is the ventilation slots based on this pattern I was actually able to match it up with a gigabyte card the rear panel of the gigabyte gtx 1070 windforce OSI model actually matches up perfectly with the rear panel here and it's also the cheapest gigabyte gtx 1070 currently on the market leading me to believe that this is the card that we're seeing here this is pretty good news if it's true because gigabyte is a reputable added board partner for graphics cards and this card seems to have a relatively decent dual fan heatsink cooler on it making this one of the more compelling components in this entire system moving along here it looks like we actually have a PCIe expansion card for what looks to be USB 3.1 type C it's hard to say if this is Gen 1 or Gen 2 but I would imagine Walmart install this card because they knew that type C is becoming increasingly popular and they wanted to put that on their spec list without having to upgrade to a much fancier and more expensive motherboard that would feature that port so I suppose this is a much cheaper solution that still gets the job done there's something kind of interesting that I barely caught I actually noticed in just moments before I started shooting this video is if you look past this ventilation slot at the right you can kind of see a silhouette of custom sleeved cables going to the graphics card these are definitely PSU cables and they're definitely custom because stock PSU cables don't Bend and sort of curve this naturally or gracefully which is kind of cool and makes sense too if you're selling a system with a case that has tempered glass on the side panel you'd want it to look relatively nice on the inside as well sort of appeal to gamers and all that so it makes sense spend another 20 30 bucks on your overhead get some nice slave cables in there and also below the cable you can kind of see a power supply shroud you can kind of see the orange lighting reflecting off of whatever cheap steel is in there but it's not too surprising to see a power supply basement inside of a cheap case these days because they're relatively inexpensive to integrate so that's kind of interesting and then finally we've got our power supply let's talk about the PSU for a minute here like I said a lot of system integrators are known to cut corners specifically with their power supplies that Blowout way sooner than gamers would like them to so I can't really tell you much about this unit you know I can't tell you the wattage the efficiency if it's 80 80 plus or to fight or not there are units that look this cheap from behind that are still 80 plus certified so I can't just say immediately that it's not but it remains to be seen what kind of wattage and efficiency we're actually gonna be looking at here for me power supplies are literally the biggest concern with pre belts because they have the potential to damage every other part in your system they connect to everything and if something were to go seriously south you could be looking at a lot more than just a damaged PSU so hopefully whatever units in there Walmart has chosen wisely so what do we know for sure we know that we've got an 8700 in here which retails for three hundred and twenty dollars right now on Amazon and Newegg we know that we have a gtx 1070 most likely something like a win force OSI which is also about three hundred and seventy dollars right now on Newegg and the two parts that I am pretty certain as far as their value are the case which I'm gonna guess is around $60 and the motherboard which I'm also gonna guess goes for around $60 so if you add all that up you get three million no that's wrong you get eight hundred and ten dollars subtract that from 1,400 you get five hundred and ninety yes I had to use a calculator for that kind of suck at math it means Walmart potentially has $600 left over to split between memory cooler power supply SSD hard drive and cables which apart from memory to be honest is actually pretty doable they can get away with some pretty decent hardware with that amount the problem is is that they don't really have $600 left over to split between those parts because they have to skim some of it off the top for profit for themselves when you buy a free belt some of the money goes to the person selling the system and we just don't know how much Walmart is planning to skim off the top of these desktops in the first place if they're aiming for a $300 profit then they're only leaving you $300 left to split between the six components that I just rattled off in that case it's gonna be a pretty bad build you're gonna get a crap power supply a crap SSD and so forth but until more details come to light we just don't know but that's all I got for now guys let me know what you think about this in the comments below tousle work on this video if you enjoyed it and get subscribed for more tech stuff coming at you really soon guys thanks for tuning in to this one have a good one and I'll see 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