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X370 or B350 for Ryzen Overclocking? Does it even matter?

2017-04-28
what's happening people welcome back to the channel hope you're all doing well today we're gonna be doing some rising overclocking specifically talking about the OC experience on the be 350 platform or chipset versus the X 370 chipset because both of them support overclocking which automatically makes the chipset purchasing decision a bit more complicated for the new rising user than it does the Intel user for example if you have an Intel KB like unlocked SKU for example and you're wanting to overclock then z to 70s your go-to chipset it's kind of a no-brainer of course you could go z170 but that's last generation it doesn't count it doesn't count so if you're a rising owner you're probably wondering can I save some money on a be 350 board without sacrificing much overclocking Headroom because be 350 right now is significantly cheaper than a lot of the X 370 boards that are currently available if we put overclocking on hold for a second and just look at the official differences between be 315 X 370 will see the main differences are really SATA and USB 3.1 gen2 part and PCIe bandwidth X 370 has a bit more a few extra PCIe lanes that allows it to have native support for multi-gpu configurations although a quick side note there are some be 350 boards out there that have PL X chips included on them which allow you to crossfire SLI multiple GPUs but that's for another topic now again both of these chipsets officially support rise in overclocking but AMD sort of just cuts it off right there they don't specifically confirm whether X 370 is a better overclocking chipset than be 350 that's sort of a question that's left into the hands of the manufacturers the board makers and really the sort of component tree or the VRMs that they've embedded onto their main boards now we already know that X 370 boards are typically more expensive than their be 350 counterparts and this is likely due to the additional features that come with X 370 like the the features that we just discussed but it's also because of the fluff features that the board makers add in there like RGB lighting or our do EMI shields or those steel-reinforced PCI slots that I still don't really see a point for but for the purpose of this video let's just assume we care nothing about any of that crap and we just want to know which chipset provides the better overclocking experience for the end user so in that case in order to help us answer that we've got two boards that were gonna be comparing today the Asus prime X 370 pro against the Asus Prime at be 350 plus RV 350 board retails for an MSRP of a hundred bucks flat whereas the X 370 board goes for a hundred and sixty dollars quite a premium if all we care about again theoretically is overclocking it's worth noting that both of these boards support a maximum PDR frequency of 20 666 however since this platform is still very much in its infancy we've been happy we've been seeing a lot of issues with motherboards hitting frequencies over 21 33 megahertz for the memory so it'll be kind of interesting to see if our X 370 board for today has any sort of leverage in that department over our be 350 model speaking of memory let's quickly go over the rest of our testing hardware for today we've got a 16 gigabyte kit of G scale Trident z ddr4 at 3200 again this falls outside of the spec of what our motherboards support in terms of speeds so will be again shooting for 2666 instead our CPU of the hour is none other than the risin 5 1600 X this is a six core 12 thread part with a 95 watt TDP and I'm looking forward to overclocking the crap out of it today that'll be paired with a Noctua Nhu 12s gtx 1070 founders Edition running stock a 512 gig a data SX 900 SSD and a corsair HX 750 watt power supply Windows 10 64 bit is our beloved operating system of choice and rest assured I'm using a little latest wickel drivers and BIOS versions it's very important for both of our motherboards today so on that note without further ado I'm gonna fire up the be 350 board first let's change camera gear or camera angles so you can see what I'm doing on screen and we're gonna see how far we can take our 1600 X first on the be 350 chipset so here we are in the UEFI I'm gonna exit easy mode we want hard mode all right I'm gonna start with changing the the core ratio here we're gonna overclock our core let's do 4 we already know that it can hit 4 gigahertz I'm gonna do 4 1 see if we can do 4.1 gigahertz sorry and the CPU voltage okay so they got this here the CPU voltage here offset where is the option 4 interestings that's already sort of something to note here is that there doesn't seem to be a V core option within the BIOS on this be 350 board it looks like you can only change via op set so I guess I guess we'll do that then Oh point zero three five maybe okay well it'll lock us into three seven point zero three seven five so maybe I wonder if the X 370 board allows you to change the vcore interesting unless I'm just not seeing it okay let's just let's just boot into the OS here and run a quick stability test don't you dare windows update on me you son of a bitch okay good all right let's go back to Tweaker 42 and let's leave the offset mode here let's try this again 4.2 gigahertz can we do it so I don't know so I haven't tested this thoroughly with X 370 boards but be 350 boards seem to take a really long time to boot like up to 30 seconds and I've actually read this on multiple other review sites and stuff that have reported this it's a really long boot time we're rocking a pretty fast SSD here with Windows 10 loaded on so I'm not I'm not sure what's up with that I don't know if there's something that a BIOS updates gonna fix eventually but okay we've been at a black screen now for way too long so I'm guessing our overclock did not take so I'm gonna go ahead and reset and tweak some settings move all up the voltage a bit and see if that works shut up your damned eggs those aren't my dogs by the way those are my neighbor's dogs who suck my shitty neighbors with shitty dogs it's not that it's not the dog's fault this is bits of shitty neighbors okay Beck and the BIOS let's try change in your offset let's go point 0 for 375 see if that works what we booted into the OS let's run Ida is it a tower Ida Ida sounds like a dirty southern name come here Ida my cousin's name was Ida my favorite name that's why I married her alright starting Oh insta crash insta crash and burn alright lads this is where I'm calling it 4.1 gigahertz with an offset of point zero three seven five volts you luck that in as our stable overclock for the core and let's let's just mess around with some memories now some mammaries so let's go ahead and do 20 666 which is again the highest rated speed that our motherboard supports here and then we'll do let's see here I'm timing control I believe the timings here are 14 all around and 34 and we should change our voltage as well 1.35 well start with that we'll see let's see if that takes oh we booted we booted we're booting in at 26 66 my lord it's America oh my lord here we go thirteen hundred and thirty point six megahertz we're gonna multiply that by two this is a dual channel kits double data rate memory giving us twenty six 66 megahertz on the mammaries on the ddr4 so our final score here for the be 350 platform is 4.1 gigahertz on the core with an offset of point zero three seven five bolts and a ddr4 frequency of 20 666 pills yeah alright I think on that note we can go ahead and switch over to our X 370 chipset board and see if there is any difference at all okay so here we are on the BIOS for our prime X 370 Perot motherboard and the UEFI looks very so strikingly similar let's as our be 350 model they're both Asus boards of course but hey look there's an actual manual option for the vcore so you can just dial in the straight v core just like that instead of being restricted to only setting an offset as we saw with the be 350 board so while this is in no way shape or form you know it increases your overclocking Headroom it is nice to have these additional features just little things like this is really great for enthusiasts overclockers who actually take advantage of them so I'm gonna do the same method though that we did for for the last board so I'm gonna do still an offset here Oh point zero three seven five and we're gonna go to four point one see 4.41 on the ratio and we'll just dial in our timing stuff here wait memory frequency 28 666 the dirt I'm in control 14 all the things DRAM voltage one point three five one point three five and let's see if we can boot with that yes into Windows we go so 4.1 gigahertz yes on all cores yes memory at thirteen hundred and thirty yes again 2666 we are on board all that we're running at the exact same frequency both on our core and memory as we were with our be 350 board run a quick stability test here okay stability tests was looking good so I'm gonna go ahead and restart let's see if we can hit that 4.2 gigahertz mark I think we can no I really don't I have no confidence that there will be any difference alright so we were running stable on that end let's go ahead and see just see we have to see if we can hit 4.2 gigahertz maybe not with this offset let's do point zero four and see see what happened we'll just see what happens now I should mention that the vrm definitely looks a bit more robust on the X 370 board than it does on our be 350 model not that that means anything in regards to overclocking headroom it could have something to do with the overall quality or the perhaps the efficiency oh oh Jesus Christmas and we just crashed okay so at the end of the day ladies and gentlemen it appears that both RB 350 and X 370 chipsets were able to pull off the exact same settings for our ddr4 and our 1600 X it looks like there's no discernible difference when it comes to overclocking potential between either of these chipsets the the real main difference here other than all the fluff features and if you want to do multi-gpu setups the price and there's even more expensive X 370 boards than the one we tested today so I would say put that money towards more important things in your system you know maybe buy a faster CPU or a faster graphics card for example increase your SSD storage capacity don't waste it on a fancy motherboard because it looks super nice and has RGB lighting and things like that unless of course that's what you're into but at the end of the day be 350 this really puts a put some minimal argument for X 370 after this test and again this is not an end-all an end-all fact that X 370 does not provide better overclocking experiences for the end-user because again I'm only testing I've only tested these two boards guys so I want to make that clear I'm not saying that x3 you know this isn't an absolute truth by any means this is just one man's experience with two motherboards one man two boards you could say and before this video goes south real quick I'm gonna close out this video guys so thank you so much for tuning in let me know what your thoughts are on the whole be 350 verse X 370 debacle the debate between the two and toss me a like on the video if you enjoyed it it helps me a lot also feel free to subscribe to bit with ultra my ad free early access channel for a buck-50 month the first two weeks are free so you might as well check it the hell out nothing to lose there thank you guys again so much for watching as always I'm Kyle with Bigfoot have a good one and I'll see you all in the next video
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