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welcome to the crave cast everyone i'm your host eric mack and i'm joined by steven Beecham Kelsey Adams Bonnie Burton and Jeff Sparkman at the scene at studio there in San Francisco and also I believe in Chile Minnesota I'm assuming Anthony de Monaco Minnesota chili and once again I'm here alive from Taos New Mexico in the offices of the taos news the top weekly newspaper in the United States six out of the last eight years that's crazy and a generous local institution here that's willing to share its t1 line with us that was like the best product placement I've heard in a while the sweetest-smelling paper in exactly there you go so today we're gonna be talking about 2014 it's our year in review was 2014 the year of the geek was it the geekiest year yet we're gonna be looking back on some of our coverage from the past year in terms of tech / nerd / geek culture and try to make the case for that if you want to join in on the discussion and say yes or no to 2014 year the geek do so I'm keeping track of the tweetdeck thing here at crave and also on our YouTube page you can go to the cnet YouTube page and we're also on livestream there's chat rooms there as well so well if you want to chime in head there so let's just go ahead and jump right into it you know first there were a lot of stories that we covered at Craven 2014 of some really some examples of really inspiring uses of technology kind of going mainstream and one of them you covered Bonnie Burton ok at the you know the largest audience in the world that the world cup tell us about it oh god ok so that there was going to be someone who had never walked before using a robotic exoskeleton to do so and it was a lot of there's a lot of hype building up to this because it never been done before it's going to be done on live TV is going to be part of the opening ceremonies for the world cup and all of us especially those of us who are really excited about robotics and exoskeleton technology were watching this and we couldn't wait we wanted to see how long this was good be how big a you know production it was going to be sadly so I was on a flight I think to LA when it was happening so I was just constantly checking the media and it hardly it got hardly any airtime because instead I guess most of the cameramen were fixated on cheerleaders are no hot ladies in the audience because this was you know he didn't really move that much but he did stand and kick the ball and so that's what you see right there that's it that's all that happened was like three seconds you can you didn't you didn't get you didn't get to watch him walk out you didn't get to watch him walk out what she did you didn't get to watch on the fanfare for it if you were there at the world cup itself then you probably got to see it but unfortunately if you were watching online or if you were watching via television none of the cameras were focused on it except for I think one camera and luckily that got online pretty quickly and international press of course had it first and then slowly but surely we got it and I was glued to this because I've been watching all the videos and reporting about it of you know just the development and just I mean this is amazing technology and this helps people walk again this is something that deserves its own you know fanfare not just world cup soccer goes soccer but you can see in his face in that moment that one moment that they did film yes and also you know I know this is just you know a few seconds the beginning the world cup but hopefully at some point well maybe get to see a whole soccer game played with exoskeletons like it would be so great if you know we get to see stuff like this happening more and more and more so I was super excited a lot of people in tech or super excited unfortunately sports journalist sport and so we didn't get a lot of video footage but I'm hoping that when they do it again it'll get a little bit more kudos but I was super stoked and I'm sure that guy was oh heck yeah yeah so yay and actually Michelle star of crave Australia has covered a lot of prostheses mind control paralyzed people doing things oh yeah where this year just this year alone so it seems to be a burgeoning field here yeah if you do a search on cnet for exoskeleton you'll see most of our stories are a lot of the stories are from 2014 and thank you for bringing that up because yeah Michelle's been writing a bunch of stories about it too we're all pretty excited about the technology and it's exciting to see where this is going to go not just robotics and Android technology but a nut phone I mean actual Android blade runner style uh it's gonna be interesting to see where this goes and it got to the point where there was just a couple of months ago there was a story that I saw some more guy who I Siddhant and he was engaged to his fiancee and he really wanted to be able to walk down the aisle huh and so he used a similar thing to what was at the world cup and I remember seeing the story and actually thinking to myself like should should I cover this because there's a lot of these stories out there it's like because it's me it's because it's so common an almost isn't news anymore why don't know that everyone feels that yeah I don't think it's not necessarily that's not news I think it's awesome that we're getting more and more stories like this and I think the same goes I mean that will used to be with drones right we'd right get one drone story and go oh my god we've the future and now it's like there's mistletoe drones and tgif you know attacking people so then we need this stuff to get more common otherwise it won't get down to actual I mean to more people what an experimental person yes we haven't reached like exoskeleton hipster status oh god no all right i'm waiting for the all exoskeleton band or the exoskeleton coachella tent or something i don't know but we have been there with drones for example there was a lost drone like like a lost pet fun by my park there's a lost room yeah my god I had a map of the area it might've been lost in linstead probably in here definitely in here oh come on that's a Pixar movie yeah really I don't drone another technology I feel like is getting to that point especially this past year is with 3d printing I went to a couple of Maker Faires this year and it's everyone's got like 3d printed prosthesis and and you know 3d printed mechanical hands and then there's some there are some really novel examples this year I don't know if any of us wrote about these but there was an example of in a surgery there was a five year old who needed some specific is the hot was it was it was it a part of the heart no we've had something okay we've had more than one story about surgeon saving babies with 3d printing yeah that's the one there that i was thinking of and i forget the part but you obviously don't print out a brand new baby I'm okay with it not yet give that a few more that's okay okay and there was a really interesting one where a guy had had had part of his fingertip cut off this is back from earlier in the year and he couldn't get in he couldn't navigate the insurance or couldn't get the insurance to pay for having his fingertip replaced and he actually figured out how to create his own prosthetic wow that's a fingertip I'm surprised he didn't make it out of Lego cuz we've got a lot of Lego stories that replacing things so just waiting for the Lego heart little Lego tips leave in America right yeah that's amazing that's that's the ultimate use of a 3d printer other than 3d printing actual companions which I'm planning on doing uh ya know it's funny how 3d printers have gotten into pop culture to you I was just doing a Portlandia binge watch on netflix of the most recent i think it was a most recent season and the mayor of Portland that's played by Kyle MacLachlan as you know from Twin Peaks and dune and whatever and on agents of shield now he's character tried to three print us 3d print at school and teachers or something because the funding got cut and I think people it's actually a good commentary though comedic that some people think you can print anything with a 3d printer and so it's interesting to note how much you can print but also I think people might be a little misled that they can print anything and everything kind of like when the 3d gun 3d printed gun thing came about I think that was last year and it made a law and order episode or something I think criminal minds had an episode on it and it's just it got to be this over hype thing of oh my god now all these kids are going to make guns and shoot each other and it's not quite there yet it explodes in your hand it's like making grenades out of Mentos and cola and saying I'm gonna attack us goal with this you just can't do that but anyway I mean shouldn't anyway but I'm just saying with 3d printing it's it's interesting to see how far it's come in how commonplace it is which I don't think we would have said that last well they were 3 3d printed something in space just recently like yes month right yeah first test of that so I was slippery Apollo mission I remember in the movie oh right when when they have some problem with an air filter oh yeah all these scientists come in they say they dumped all the stuff on the table and they're like okay make an air filter out of this thing yeah but nothing in just 3d print I know I fight people on earth you my oh I'm gonna send you the special it's kind of sad cuz i feel like if they redid MacGyver now it would just be the dude with a 3d printer it wouldn't be like I can get out I can't get out of this prison so with a coffee filter and a rubber band it would be like I'll just 3d print a key yeah but where is he gonna keep the printer all the time I'm sure they'll make pocket printers he'll get one my pens the 3d pen yeah exactly you're right it depends on what channel oh right a key yeah exactly now I I totally agree with you it's funny that you can you can 3d print so many things that's kind of taking away the DIY if you just have the specs and you're done yeah it's so I can find that on the Internet let me google that 3dp yeah yeah just scrolling down our list here we've got oh yeah 3d printed car 3d printed force awakens crossguard lightsaber oh and I hacked from her own Museum I have a story that's going up today about the White House have first time ever 3d printed ornaments they did a instructables contest where they asked the public to basically submit 3d ornament ideas and five were chosen and they will be i think in the East Wing of the White House on the tree but also they will be kept at the Smithsonian after the holidays but a few of the ornaments were like here's a 3d model of the Library of Congress reading room and then the other one was like you know actual star that's supposed to like signify piece and it's just very interesting and you can if you want to make them yourselves all of these specs are on instructables so you can actually print out if you have a 3d printer the same exact ornaments that will be on the tree at the white house so I thought that was kind of cool so and that was put on by instructables White House and Smithsonian so they all got together for this challenge and it's pretty dang cool so so some of the folks in the YouTube chat room are saying that you know this was a big year for smartwatches and I'm just curious do any of us own smart watches and do we consider that a geeky I have one I have to actually send it back such a review unit but it's been sitting in a drawer for like two weeks I like forget that I have it uh I nobody has I can't afford one I'm a writer well yeah actually have a pebble that I bought movie six to nine months ago but it's sitting in a drawer for it's been sitting in a drawer for the last three months or so I just got so sick of wearing it but it's why don't know I think about it why did you throw man well I don't know I mean there's just not really I have my phone with me at all times I don't need my wrist buzzing in addition to the phone buzzing on my desk every time someone says something to me in an email or on twitter or something I mean I would I reviewers say is that it's helpful to have it on your wrist so you don't have to look in your pocket for your phone and I thought that was kind of ridiculous I don't know I always thought the phone was kind of like a new version of a pocket watch where you always had it in your pocket kind of like you know in old-timey days when you have a fob right and you'd put it in your pocket and that's how you would tell time but I don't know like with smartwatches I'd always be worried all my personal information be available for anyone looking at my wrist and I don't want them to know how many steps I take that's why I don't have the bracelet for Fitbit I have the pager thing that you put in your pocket because I don't want people to know how to out of shape I am I mean they can already tell looking at me yeah I already know how many steps I'm not yeah exactly i don't like a watch to tell me that I don't think it's gonna be geeky enough until you can do video conferencing with your friends or you're walking around going yeah that's what it's going to be a super holographic yeah yeah once we get to that point once we get to help me Obi one hologram or we get a food replicator or something on there that I lazer lazer bond laser yeah a 3d 2d printer to printer Finch yeah yeah I mean I know we're being very needy right now as tech journal as a citizen it is I just I mean there are certain things that I still want that we haven't got my god we have gotten our personal Stargate we haven't gotten a target you haven't well oh yeah I see how it is yeah yeah and I mean I feel like you know travel is still cumbersome if there's a way that I can be you know siren else pocked to different places if you will then you on must did he did Elon Musk come out with his tube transport this year was not sure Eric you nobody came up with the idea right it released every time you say tube transport I think of banks remember when they used to my room oh yes the Hyperloop um there was a store that did that yeah everyone you would go to banks and you would go to the window maybe they just had this in the Midwest but they had that tube suction delivery system they headed oh yeah the movie Brazil we still have those body yeah if we could do that with people just stick me in there and send me to LA that's what do you I must wants to do what he wants Oh hurry up you on Joe so one last you know bit of inspiring texts in the last year I think this actually tops the list at least for me personally like the geekiest most awesome thing that happened all year and that's the whole Rosetta thing you know the European Space Agency landing on the comment i should say bouncing three times on the comment and kind of falling into a crater but it's still there and then you know rosetta is still circling the comet for the next year or so and I you know I just I just continue to marvel at the geometry that went into actually making that happen and actually landing on the thing even if it wasn't a perfect landing I mean it still happened I mean what do you guys think that just kind of takes the cake the long-term planning for example it's hard to wrap your head around it actually yeah and you're what it was is you know it's difficult like with the moon landing we had everything was on TV basically right and we can watch it and this one was kind of little different but it's just hard to wrap your head around what what's happening with that and just like like just how how detailed everything had to be is like yeah it bounced a couple times but like I have trouble navigating through doors okay Uhler doors represented some slack most of us are klutzes why not this I fell down my stairs the other day yeah I felt upstairs dares I've done that yeah so here's the question though geekier moment more important and more geeky moment a curiosity landing or Rosetta Oh what do you think I'm gonna say curiosity just because my friends at work at JPL and if I don't matter they'll kill me but I think it all is pretty geeky minutes space it's hard not to it's not like it's a I don't know I to me it's like all space related things are pretty awe-inspiring and geeky and it's hard to like 10 for the other because they need each other inspiring there's some hope the thing might wake up again right when it gets closer yeah can you imagine how exciting it be to be the people who see the telemetry starting battle yeah it's not dead it's a wake yeah sorry just what I you know I do have a question though I think we covered this in past grave cast when we've done stuff about space do you think that sci-fi and movies have made us impatient about the space program and we're just like a where's our spaceship battles where's our alien proof of alien life wars are that's a good question you know what I mean and I wonder especially with the next generation and the next generation after that if when they watch this stuff if they're as inspired and and struck by the wonderment of it because we're from a generation well I'm pretty old but most of us are from a generation where this is pretty rad and this is something that I chesed rad so that should show you how old I am of space stuff you're like oh my god I can't believe this is happening and then you have a generation that's like a once they're gonna be a battle there's no Yoda letest Anthony hmm I know if they're you the youngest how do you feel about all this well I mean I yeah it is a really good question so I've definitely thought on occasion like why aren't we on Mars yet why haven't we gotten there so it's not like those big things like why aren't we you know why are we on Tatooine having a space battle or why aren't we you know why are we doing all those sorts of crazy things it's like why aren't we doing some of these more I mean we're getting towards a point where we're going to be on Mars eventually but it gets really you know I've thought on many occasions like why are we there yet yeah that's probably been influenced by you know Star Trek Star Wars and all the other crap i watch the kid you know the funny thing to you is I think the reason that we had such a space race wasn't because we were trying to get there we're trying to get there before russia like we're trying to get for other planets are no other plans are other countries Sorry Sorry spoiler alert there's not a planet no but and we don't really have another planet yeah we don't really have that right now I mean I know North Korea's really trying but it's not like we have we have international space station's where we're all working together I mean there's even the lonely little iso robot up there you know talking to lonely astronaut so I mean we're all working together it's not like we're trying to beat one country out of the other to get tomorrow no we don't do our best work when we're cooperative I know I feel like if we were just cold world paranoid sugar minor alien aggressor I've been saying we need we need a watchman ending like nobody's business i still i mean i know that's a horrible thing to say right now but honestly i think humanity would come together if we had an alien invasion I'm not saying we should I'm just saying it could happen but it's not gonna happen anytime soon cuz we came and get to Mars yet nyan nyan iguana neon iguana in the YouTube chat room wants to know where the fifth element food pills are I think we should be able to do that well the Star Trek food replicator I think we've been all wanting that but once we find out what the foods made of we don't really want it my brother's guys swing that we had generated a sort of perfect vital thing yeah we have some Soylent yeah did he was eating wait what were you saying L see you were actually seeing real stuff well I read a while back this guy was saying he had calculated a kind of generic food thing with all the vitamins all right it's not it incredibly dangerous and frankly I'm surprised he lived well also sounded really gross yeah I mean he wasn't excited about food though like we haven't learned either reminding I'm not a something that looks like it's like we have not learned anything from Willy Wonka did we not we have that gum that tastes like a fight anyway we digress don't don't want the squirrels yeah yeah I'd iris yes the spirit of a bitchin segue yeah there are certain things that from you know like back to the future that we do have now in fact the hoverboard that I think Steven did you actually get to scratch statement one here yeah I was on it you were a trendsetter how know ok so I wrote the story about Tony Hawk doing it and this was weird because before Tony Hawk was on the faked video that was remember the back to the females right yeah yeah and he was on it and then he had to do a separate youtube video going sorry you guys thought that was real you're stupid but you're not like he's trying to be Tony Hawk's a nice guy so he wasn't like hey you guys are steep I can't believe you did that and believed me but this is real so the hendo this is a real thing and um you have to be on a metal surface yeah active surface so how were you able to do these tricks were you know no actually I was so scared I was gonna break it or damage X it's like $10,000 board yeah I was just being really careful and you know there's no inertia there's nothing to stop you so if you just start spinning you're spinning forever yeah like a you know like a plan in yeah Tony Tony Hawk was showing that and to be seasonal he's like a dreidel yeah but he's off of it and he then the board goes boom right there and you know I'm sure all the guys in there that work on it we're like tripping out but at the same time they're like Tony Hawk just oh yeah I mean Tony Hawk it's like he's allowed to do I probably got ten thousand dollars just in case yeah and I'm sure I'm sure he has his own of this i'm just the promotion of this with tony hawk on it so when i wrote this story i definitely did the video of him on it and you can see it there but he also was reporting with one of his journalist friends who also wrote it i can't remember the knee it wasn't vice but i think it was it was like a skylight as a ride ride this tony hawk's youtube channel yeah yeah and so but he also wrote for some it wasn't Thrasher bros like some skateboard maybe it was Thrasher I don't know it was some skateboard pro skateboard magazine and they said it was kind of like writing us was it a slide board which I've never been on but it's like notified it's something where it's yours you don't have much control over it so it's not like a skateboard like walking through a door yeah it's like a skateboard it becomes part of your body surf board becomes you know when you're when you're an ass when you can do that you can control it but this was like all over the place like a slip and slide and so Tony Hawk was even like I don't I don't know if like he's not gonna be doing any sports tricks on this anytime soon but what he did in the video at least you did pretty good he did pretty well on the halfpipe I mean I felt like if you got really aggressive you could do cool stuff yeah you know I mean like you have to like he's being really aggressive right it's hard to do and he pulled off some yeah cool he was my back and forth and it was interesting it's just you can't be on the board for too long I and apparently at there's batteries battery issues it's not solar powered yet it's not powered through your awesomeness to ride um but hopefully you know they'll work out the kinks and it'll be available to public but it's not available to public right now did you see it was a kid well the DIY do you feel that manda Amanda wrote about that Amanda Kooser wrote about it I think he's probably got the story there Steven there's a DIY one that's made basically from I think three or four air blowers that's basically like a yeah yeah he used for air blowers and he'd used like a waterskiing he found like a water-ski on the side of the road got that kid he's like totally in shock i love it and he rigged it up with these for uh you know these four leaf blowers basically how loud yeah i just think so loud like every mom who sees us videos just like I hope my teenage son doesn't do this I hope my teenage son does it you actually see leaves blowing in the back yeah but this one's cool cuz you can go on any flat surface yeah I mean and and he's gonna perfect it I mean this is like a prototype he's not wearing any protective gear yeah he's not wearing a helmet but he's working on making it more the airflow more you know powerful and he's working on making it quieter too yeah I hope so I mean look how DIY that thing yeah you know I can do on water though if you do a search might be able to last but you don't have power yes and if you do is look at those kids gone all right if you do a search for DIY hoverboard there's a lot of people in the community that try to make things like this and on YouTube there's plenty of do's and don'ts uh I recommend you don't put some stranger's kid on one right away like I like this kid he just kind of stands on it then he's like okay I'm gonna jump on he's a future Marvel hero it falls off that's a mother dude like just like an origin story waiting to happen so I think this means does this mean Robert Zemeckis is like the new Nostradamus because I mean in Back to the Future to that was set in 2015 and sterile off by like six months yeah he's not usually Scott though cuz I've been waiting for that blade runner LA to happen soon that's not yeah aside from the food carts and then does did oh yeah I think you're gonna say the same thing Kelsey this is not the only back to the future to technology that became real this year there was also the auto leasing shoes from that movie are also now a thing Amanda wrote about that as well and then she actually did she have the other shoes the light-up shoes yeah the later ones yeah these are the lace-up shoes I watched this video there's not really anywhere where they demonstrate how they lace of course not but there's a lot of people doing backflips in the shoes which is yeah well that's what you do when you have Auto lacing shoes that are available to all of a sudden parkour and I dance I gotta get me some of those yeah did you look cool they do yeah I have auto leasing shoes are called bands uh yeah I'm wearing some right now yeah they're called we gave up someone in the chat room wants more active hypercolor t-shirts I i still have junior high nightmares from when I had a hyper color color shirt and someone kept patting me on the button so it looks like I was being molested by a ghost it was not good and also if you're a naturally sweaty person like a giant we're just hot yeah yeah those areas just never yeah you're back to their know you're like a predators dream come true see what's your they make the panels just like that in the front yeah instead of the whole shirt right ya know that has proper you yeah it's your dad another another futuristic technology that we report on this year Anthony you wrote about there are two jet packs and I wrote about one it was demoed at the Smithsonian and that like actually is a vertical you know flying jet pack but they and it does it's been around for a few years actually but yeah it was demoed at the Smithsonian this year I want one of these yeah it's pretty interesting how are the FAA rules on this thing I guess if you're inside the Smithsonian thank you I get that plane out of there wow that's what we all want my god i don't know if that's the same guy that did it but add at star wars celebration of three or four i think it was they had some guy dressed exactly like Boba Fett doing that and he came in and it was so loud it was like super sonic loud and he came in his Boba Fett with the jetpack and landed to start the Star Wars convention and it was like this big deal but because it was so loud and deafening people at yeah we're not doing that again and apparently FAA aren't too keen on people jetpacking around without a lot of permits signed and professional uh you know people doing it not just some guy DIYing it so well there's a jet pack for running though to that Anthony wrote about what was that one all about yeah some kind of for running so this was a it's a it's a prototype by an engineering student at Arizona State and so instead of a jetpack like you think of a normal jetpack that shoots you up in the air and you fly all around this one shoots kind of concentrated bursts of air out of the back and propel someone forward so that they can move faster and the goal of this project it's being developed for military uses to help you know soldiers who are in combat situations get in and out of someplace quickly to keep them safe as they're doing things like rescue operations or some kind of battlefield deals were they you know rescue people I don't know if they're in trouble on the battlefield they can just bail if the effort that's really other gather Rocketeer out of there yeah I have a dumb question about jet packs go for it um okay maybe soldiers on the whole 10 be thinner than I am but I just feel like having something pointing straight down from my back it's not gonna run into your but I know the Cardassian element yeah yes okay we'll check it out as he's running it kind of you know it points away from him a little bit he leans forward a little scene but what if he forgets to lean forward yeah he'll remember really but actually they're pointed straight back up yeah it's wrong in his feet yeah I'd probably cook the back of a shoe a little bit God could you imagine tripping and the Smithsonian would yes actually I can no I'm just thinking of the klutz factor and this you have to be really coordinated cuz man skinned knees have just gone up a notch if you fall in that so or if you keep propelling yourself forward I mean you can't get up oh I didn't even think of that girl oh man I'd bet for a reboot of Christmas Story jetpack hoverboard combination you're on decide with how you can get across the water yeah get on it has bro I want a pitbull oh look at that at least he's wearing a helmet no knee pads oh alright just a few other things that became brie I was gonna run down this list real quick this year so we're looking at in the very near future QR codes that actually activate Holograms that's something that was a release this year so you scan the code and then you on your futuristic phone you get a little hologram of whatever was embedded in the QR code that was kind of cool like Aaron code cookie Oh help me I'll be one year the only one with the cookies you know somebody's gonna use it to rickroll somebody its first day to do I look at immediately we go to pranking as an soon it's something worse then you figure out how you're gonna spawn tell you tin tin ders gonna get a lot more exciting Oh yikes I can hologram that Star Trek communicators you can get one for ninety-nine dollars i think there was a kickstarter and i'm totally forgetting the name of it but it's on it's on the link there and it basically and it works through bluetooth and you know it's it's kind of a you create your own little local network and but it works exactly like the Star Trek communicators did those are now 99 bucks a little bigger right it's a little bigger in dorkier but it looks like you're wearing a doorbell on your shop yeah it is a door there's anything wrong with that I'm just saying cuz us a Star Trek fans never have a problem with looking slightly dorky not mean has a rocket wait a minute what is it what's going on that video back up a little bit no they're doing oh they're doing a little rocket thing sometimes birthday it's cute I say what military uses does this have so that's so you can communicate with people while you're on your jetpack and hoverboard combo going across the water that's like walkie talkies mm-hmm it needs to be smaller it's too big yeah somebody actually either i saw a photo where they put one right next to a doorbell and it really is like oh that's brilliant i love it so Star Wars blaster bolts scientists actually showed us what those would look like in real life you know they're there physically you know I'm not an actual blast and it's a lot less impressive it turns out don't mean look cool is that it's low it's cool they have it slowed down high school hallway there we yeah there it is good what did they used to do this I don't know I didn't write the story understanding that guy's gonna get shot the force hologram not not if they're stormtroopers yeah stormtroopers can't hit a bard barn or broadside of a wampa nothing you know it's interesting though because like I said before how much is sci-fi ruined real science for us so when somebody calls something a Star Wars yada yada we instantly are like this is nothing like a Star Wars whatever and it's good it's frustrating cuz you shouldn't call something a Star Trek block or Star Wars block or doctor who block unless it actually really looks like it I think we're the ones own your star wars oh no you guys know I see so with Oscar was not the actual scientists calling I don't think it's in the marketing oh I think that's all yeah wait saved you really don't want to put it in the marketing because then they get you know yeah fancy letters well it's like we learn it's kind of like during the 80s when we had the Star Wars wooden Ronald Reagan use Star Wars oh yeah and that's like that's not Star Wars but we've got so excited that it was said by Tom broke on the week on the nightly yes that we let it slide but this time I don't know like you have to be careful like some of the back to the future stuff yeah it's very much like sort of kind of back to the future stuff but when you say Star Wars i don't know i think it's like a like a double-edged sword kind of thing because it's like these movies are inspiring people to try to make things yeah that are like the things that they see in that but using the actual technology we have right it's never gonna be quite although if you told me when I was a kid that i'd be able to you know watch the Super Friends on a phone that I could hold in my hand holy cords or anything that's true we tend to forget them like the mundane aspect some of this don't don't even even jets suck dude even Jetsons had a guy and it said that that came from me oh um so I tell you what why don't we just forget the real stuff cuz we're almost all the time without even touched we haven't even touched on like a sci-fi fantasy Marvel geek outs for the year I mean just some things I had from the past year I mean I everything is became Legos this year 50 year anniversary of Star Trek new Star Wars trailer Doctor Who I mean it is guardians the galaxies so much stuff interstellar so much great stuff this year and really becoming more mainstream what was the most exciting you know um fictional stuff for you guys this year mmm I've got Sun but I don't want I'm i think captain merica the winter soldier was a big deal you know it upended the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe it showed that we aren't all just waiting for another Avengers movie my chakra which dark Thor to dark world did not hello 2019 but I think for me that really the probably the biggest geek movie thing of this year's it's the last Hobbit movie I mean I know if you all remember before the lord the rings movies it used to be that fantasy movies were guaranteed trash and and Peter Jackson changed all that you know I'm sure we all have differences with how he adapted them but he really brought in a new era and that era is now done yeah he single-handedly me dragons sexy just recasting Cumberbatch way to go I I you know I honestly I'm a huge Star Wars fan obviously morning the Star Wars stuff right now but I was so excited about guardians the galaxy because i wanted a smartass crew of heroes and i love adventures but guardians just really had so much heart to it and I loved all the DIY projects that came out of that I mean I was writing so many great stories for crave I think I was on I had to be sanctioned for over greeting it but my face yeah it was like I had a Cumberbatch band and then a group band I don't know if one can merge into the other but I would appreciate it I did the Groot swing for superfans build and I was so excited that new web series that started and someone built a giant Groot swing for this little kid and all that I just love any DIY that comes out of sci-fi and fantasy and any of those movies so thank you to james gunn and Nicole Perlman who helped write it in all the special effects for guardians of galaxies to actually inspire us to make our own Groot toys & Rocket Raccoon Lego and everything so thank you at mixtapes and mixes yeah brought back mixtapes yeah thanks now when I play what mixtapes on my Walkman on the airplane little kids won't look at me like I'm a weird freak from history I feel like Ichabod Crane every time I use a Walkman on a plane like kids are just like what's that I'm doing that and that story not yet Oh will you have you been watching Sleepy Hollow I don't watch Oh God what about you guys yeah so Jeff um Batman in the YouTube um chatroom wants to know if we heard about the Aquaman movie isn't it like your dream come true or am i imagining things um does it have to be a good dream frame I thought you an Aquaman famine yeah oh yeah I was that's okay I mean Aquaman's cool miss tilly cool he's not my favorite Aquaman what do you think Stephen I just thought it was like a we talked about on an entourage and now oh right I don't entourage any voucher and then as the guy who made 300 and the watchman is directing it right so Zack Snyder header Zack Snyder yeah it's actually there's also producing the new Wonder Woman movie I had to put that in there because I've been waiting for a Wonder Woman movie since I was a little kid and I love Linda Carter but this better be good does better be good this better be good what about you Anthony de monica what did you geek out on this year yeah there was I mean there was there was a lot of good stuff this year so we've we've obviously got star wars force awakens we've gotten so many gun trailers we've got leaks we've gotten a lot of stuff that's getting us excited for 2015 there as Kelsey said the The Hobbit series is coming to an end I think tomorrow or tonight even opening is an opening on Friday but opening the door it opens I can it's 7pm tonight and our local theater here so I think officially it opens tomorrow some places it probably opens tonight I've been coping by posting a lot of live in Lord of the Rings stuff this week Anthony the one you're doing today did you do that already with the cat box number two in the the series you mentioned Bonnie the super uh yeah I'm blanking on the name of it now well we have so many great geek cat-like krauss and it's like a litter box that you a cat can poopin in middle-earth I love it look at that and that means comfort oh I want it right me out I swear to God the first thing I thought of was you shall not piss it was really disappointed that they didn't use for them for like marketing I'm really in the wrong line it's like one cat box to rule them all yeah it's honestly I love that I mean we've been doing a lot of hobbit stories on crave like The Hobbit places you can rent uh yeah I think that was a gallery that went up today yeah um and all that condos that people are like redoing to look like inside Hobbit holes and that's that's actually pretty awesome I know just smart yeah that takes some real level of fandom but I love anything with cat so like the idea that there's a cat box that look like middle-earth at least doesn't like Sauron you don't want burning cat litter mmm that's not that's not a smell that you want the house but I will oh but there is a little scratch calls are scratching post that's even better pretty awesome that's pretty great I love break.com with their stuff they also did they did the group thing they did the great swing one brick alright guys so what do you think final thoughts was was 2014 the geekiest year ever um no it was for me it was i think is pretty geeky i can't remember a year that was kikyo 1977 that's your husband Star Wars uh I will say that this has been a really geeky herb I'm hoping 2015 will be even geekier yeah I'm sure definitely yeah I'm kind of overwhelmed by all the movies that we were told about this year that are coming out like Bonnie you did that post all the upcoming Marvel movie yeah I mean we are losing the hobbit series but it's like we're just jumping into a whole new future of superhero movies and not not just that I think we also did a crazy story on every single reboot that's being made into a TV starkey and minority well stargates gonna be movie but we've got no no Yahoo's new platforms for video there was no I mean if you're a gate great no it's awesome because there's really an embarrassment of riches of things to watch and participate in so Eric and Amanda you guys have been covering the space program yeah like crazy thing kids I don't know that anything huge is planet for 2015 but you know in the next five years we could I mean there's almost half a dozen like gigantic telescopes that are planned that are like three times as powerful as what we have now and then you know you've got the launch of you know we're really beginning to seriously look at putting somebody on Mars I will be interesting to see if Mars one that kind of reality show Mars thing actually goes anywhere so I don't know how much is gonna actually materialize next year but over the next five to ten years it's just as literally a whole other universe I will say though if you're a big fan of sci-fi and your big fan of sci-fi predicting future things I highly recommend black mirror which is a that's amazing it's kind of like it's been it's been called it like twilight zone meets futuristic sci-fi and I know a lot of Twilight Zone fans right now it's not like that but I do think it's like that it's there each episode is its own episode they're not linked in any way but they have some really interesting for sight of what they think technology is going to be doing to our society as far as how social media is treated how memories are going to be implanted so you're going to be able to rewind your membre see when you have fights with your girlfriend or boyfriend you can really show them what they said stop guessing I'm still not gonna matter and I guess and interesting ideas about what happens if you get in Carson eight incarcerated in prison could that be like an amusement park or could you have a reality show where all the reality contestants might be kind of like slaves but they're wanting to be that because they want to be famous there's a lot of interesting you know pop culture as well as social commentary and black mirror it's on Netflix so you can watch all of first two seasons and there's a Christmas special with Jon Hamm coming out which will be very interesting so I highly recommend it if you like watching sci fi to see if it predicts future things for reals I second that motion and I think we could we could go on for forever I suggest taken the conversation over to Twitter at krave like 10 minutes over there so I'm gonna say I'm gonna I'm gonna say goodbye for all of us here at krave thanks for joining the creative cast again cnet com / crave for all these stories and much more I tried going through them all earlier and I just couldn't listen Joey thousands so check it out and check us next month Happy Holidays Happy New Year and we'll see you next time you