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Alfred breaks down Super Smash Brothers Ultimate (The 3:59, Ep. 500)

2018-12-06
three - welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Ben Fox Ruben I'm Alfred Aang it's finally here this super smash brothers ultimate review is live Alfred you're all over what's the verdict it's a hot one it's a pretty good game I spent a lot of time playing it on the GameCube controller on the joy con on the switch itself played it on my subway ride here this morning played it on like a two-hour train ride to Queens last week played at like dance practice with some friends using just the joy cons yeah it runs really smoothly you can tell that like this is actually gonna be a really competitive game and not like really watered down to make it easier for beginners um so I'm a big fan of it that is a criticism that some people have though where you know super smash brothers now with ultimate is just like diving deeper into itself as opposed to like making it friendlier for newcomers really for pros yeah which i 100% appreciate because i don't want to have to keep playing with beginners anymore but yeah it started i was like it has this trouble of like balancing itself as like a party game and a you know hardcore competitive game like you don't see people playing like Mario Cart competitively because it's supposed to be like a fun party game kind of thing Super Smash Brothers originally was always supposed to be this like fun party game like oh hey I threw like a green shell at you and you died hahaha isn't that funny but you know people turned the items off they played on stages that didn't have any hazards or anything like that and they developed it into its own scene for a while Nintendo was trying to stay away from that but now they realize the potential and the competitive scene and like this one is like very much catered towards that well not only that but like the physics are a little bit different it's a it's a different game right yeah you were describing that in your review that this isn't just a port mall evolution or a port from the previous generation yeah it's definitely not a port a lot of people have been liking that it might be that but yeah they changed the physics up a bit so like the gravity is a little bit higher so like you fall to the ground faster which like leads to a lot more air combos and things like that there more hits done so if I hit you you can't just get out of it immediately and I can follow up with more attacks bottom line the experience how does it differ from the the previous you know too big version it definitely rewards more aggressive play okay and the previous one and at the same time also look it meets this kind of middle ground that like for the GameCube version was really aggressive and it's like I would argue that one's even harder for beginners to pick up okay and for the Wii U version that made like defensive play more rewarding so I would say this is like a good middle ground between the two okay so next up the EKG feature on the Apple watch series four will be made available later today with a watch OS five point one point two software upgrade our own Vanessa Han Oriana has an in-depth look at how this may play a bigger role and how some owner your health is this enough for you to buy an Apple watch therefore I'm not a watch person so no but I think for folks that care about this type of information yeah or like maybe even your doctor would want to like tell you to buy something like this then yeah this could expand the opportunities for for people to start doing start buying this I could see this being something you would want to get for your parents that want so I can constantly check on their health condition I'm 19 and I will live forever so I don't need this right now yeah I mean it's interesting to note that you know the rest of testing this out actually found a an abnormal heartbeat for her I mean doctors said it would be fine but like they still need to look at the fact that actually found it was probably the perfect illustration of why you'd want something like this yeah also another Vanessa story she went up to Corning and found out how they're working on an ultra-thin bendable glass for foldable phones which were expecting to come out next year this glass is about 0.1 millimeters thin and can bend almost in half like a piece of paper so pretty interesting to see that Corning is definitely trying to get in front of the foldable phone craze that hasn't quite yet happen workers it's right now Samsung's showing off this foldable film but that's that's like plastic right that's not gasps that's folding like how does the how does the Corning thing fit into this according to Corning their argument is is that glass is better because stronger it's yeah it's it's much more scratch resistant than plastic and it also doesn't you know yellow as it ages the same way plastic would so if they're able to convince a lot of phone makers that hey this is better than plastic then maybe we'll see a lot more foldable phones with class you imagine how expensive that would be at a replace of your screen crack oh my god don't even probably afford to fix it for a full cover chickens on a CNN IRA motor Chang I'm Ben Fox Ruben I'm Alfred Inge thanks for listening but we'll do it on episode wait what are we doing on episode of thousand no we just we've realized we never actually mentioned in the taping that this was our 500th episode that's fine people can count no one cares they should be content that activates the dialer broadcast that to Phil all right even though it's 500 we're not doing anything all that special today so go ahead and send in your questions and comments about smash because no one's gonna want to talk about anything else although I do have to give a shout out to Vanessa and rich and Mark and everybody who went on the Corning trip what up hometown represent I'm from down the road in a little town called Bath all up there in the Buffalo neighborhood where at school so yeah I just want to acknowledge Corning is cool and props for them for doing and leading the Gorilla Glass attack I mean in Corning I like Corning I've been up there I wear a little dorky every Museum is not working we're all doors it's the museum was awesome I'm a big fan of their choreography all right so let's go ahead and jump in the chat and take some questions first up from sir enjoy any early indications of eSports integration if yes which form factor would you like the smash bros ultimate to be completed on I mean there's a very good chance that like there's opening tournament opening day tournaments are happening tomorrow also not from Nintendo so Nintendo has weird relationship with eSports where they short history lesson I guess they like they tried getting melee like banned from Evo first like they did not want it streamed at all and then they kind of caved after a lot of people were protesting about it online like they didn't show up and then tendo's office or anything like that and then since then like Nintendo's kind of done like a full 180 on that where they have been supporting the eSports scene a lot with Super Smash Brothers like at Evo this year which is the largest fighting game tournament in the world they showed off a teaser for like smash ultimate this year so they're like literally cooperating with them now they invited like top eSports players to e3 for their original showcase so I don't know if Nintendo themselves are hosting anything on opening day most likely they'll be people will be playing this on a gamecube controller and TV I would be very very surprised if they had tournaments that were like joi con only or switch only yeah but yeah I mean people can also choose to play in tournaments however they want like you I can show up to a turn with my switch and say I want to play on like my droidcon or something like that but I I think most people are gonna be playing with either a pro controller or a GameCube controller like there's a reason why Nintendo brought that like the the ultimate bundle that they sell yeah it comes with a pro controller for it but they also started remaking special editions of the GameCube controllers okay specifically for this game like the game controls like 17 years old and they're still making them for this game so yeah the joy cons are really a pain to use yeah you're doing like two players we played Mario Kart together and Mario I've never heard of a game core memory okay whatever but you know like I was starting to feel like arthritis yeah after like the first five dreams or something because of the joy consoles yeah so to answer the question it's most likely gonna be docked on a TV with a GameCube controllers did you actually try it though at like a tabletop with the joy Kahn yes you call it at least comparable like you could still enjoy it it's yes if you want to like play a casual game like with a friend when you're waiting for a flight or like when you're just like just have some downtime it's fine it's annoying though because there's no C stick on it which is on like the pro control in the GameCube controller it's like the little yellow stick on the right side the controller is that for blocking no that's for smash attacks so when you smash attacks are like the hyper like high-powered attacks and you have to like flick your controller really and press a certain timing for it okay or you can just flick the see stick it's like much simpler okay but you can't do that on the joy cons because they don't have it so it's like that's like some of the things that you miss grabbing is also really annoying because you can only grab on like the left trigger whereas on a GameCube controller or a wire or a pro controller you have like ZL or Z on the GameCube controller to do that with so it's much like faster out of shield and things like that yeah so it's acceptable but like I don't I I could definitely see somebody complaining about it like oh I would have won if I had like a better controller right oh whatever that's just whining I must say that I appreciate you're such a purist that you do still use the game GameCube controller I mean yeah they I mentioned this yesterday I really think Nintendo like kind of did this to themselves when they announced brawl for the Wii and they made the GameCube controller available for that too because if you had to pick between playing on the Wii mote or a GameCube controller like you're gonna play on the GameCube controller and then so that just kind of continued the the cycle where all the melee players were playing on GameCube controllers because they had to then they moved on to brawl and they were still using GameCube controllers then the Wii U comes out and there's better controllers now but the thing is like they've had two full games now where they're so used to the GameCube controllers that like they will just continue playing with that Nintendo they make more money selling you more controllers yeah but like they GameCube controllers are like 30 bucks like a pro controllers like 60 or 70 okay my my argument is that like I think the pro controller is actually fine for playing smash I but I also think that like they can't compete with like 17 years of muscle memory right right because like players are so used to the GameCube controller like that's the only reason why Nintendo still makes GameCube controllers is for smash like it's my own new one you know right I'm using my old ones oh yeah sweet yeah worn like a pair of jeans yeah all right let's take some more questions Hunter Lee wants to know what alfred's mains are smash main is and did it change when you came into ultimate I've been playing with Pikachu every game and it hasn't changed only because Pikachu's like insanely good in this one so they added a spike for Pikachu which like it's like a Down hit that like sends you like all the way to the bots not fair sure he his recoveries like much better now too and they change his neutral air attack so it's like a multi-hit attack now instead of like one like hit that like knocks you far away which like leads up into more combos but I have been picking up secondary characters with ultimate just because their cousin that and like because Pikachu's so good in the game like I don't play Pikachu unless I'm playing somebody who's like really good so you give the rest of us Schmucks yeah handicap that's not fair the handicap so I've been playing with Vince in Aurora a lot who is surprisingly fun that's the big red cat Pokemon that you saw in the video earlier or in the article he is like very heavy and like very slow so like a completely different place now from that og Donkey Kong yeah so I've been playing with in sinner or a lot and you know obviously there's like so many characters for me to like try out and I'm sure there's gonna be other like secondaries I pick up dozen sinner or have fire Underpants no it's a it's a title belt okay it's supposed to be a wrestler got it that's why our underpants would be pretty fun though fire bad new metal band Roger ban do you guys play enough smash to stay if you have a mane or not yeah Luigi's brother probably I would say well let me read Luigi really good he could chew but I don't I was that's mine Kirby the one time I played ultimate airplane Kirby I mean like I survived you I play I was adorable I played a ton in the n64 version so I haven't really played much better since then actually that was my my main experience has been the n64 version the original Spanish and I think my main was link at that point interesting yeah okay set the sword I like most was a big fan of The Dark Knight to Smash Brothers Nintendo 64's Batman Begins and that's when I got hooked on Marth from Fire Emblem oh dude my never even played Fire Emblem but I loved that character Marth and smash yeah Marth is insanely good in melee and then I played with Marv for a little bit and ultimate it's not as good as melee he was in melee but like he's again feasible that I think that's like a good point that I wanted to make in my review of it where I don't think any characters like the front runner like amazing in the game like it's pretty balanced yeah I do think it's like pretty balanced which was an issue that a lot of like previous match games had where like you would clearly tell who was the best character in the game yeah everybody I played in the n64 version they all migrated to Captain Falcon yeah like every single one of them yeah so like I would play with Mario Mario and there would like every like the three other characters on the board would just be Falcon punching there on through so I don't Falcon is actually not that good in the 64 version but I think it's because like when you're like a kid do I do you think captain Falcons like really cool right because you guys like super powerful like kill moves yeah never really yeah but like they barely hit like if if you were smart enough to avoid that absolutely who was the so Pikachu's actually one of the best characters in that game yeah Fox is also pretty good you knew somebody who was really good at the game if they could play with Donkey Kong or that little kid with them Ness Ness is pretty good in the game if yeah you could frustrate that thank you buddy good at the game too yeah beat I mean yeah but unless also has like an insanely good back throw when like throws in the net and 64 version we're like really rigged mmm if you couldn't get out of it and they had like no lag time and there was like no like disadvantages to using exact 15 years ago yeah we should end the podcast so we can play this game unless there are more that's five couple more quick questions yeah keep gaming asks can you invite a friend and matchmake or is it only custom games with friends you can invite a friend I actually I this is just from the announcements that Nintendo made because we weren't allowed to try online online wasn't available yeah and it won't be available until the release day but from what I understood from the video from Nintendo they you are allowed to just like invite a friend on matchmake okay you can even play like local like if you have a friend at your house you can play online at the same time in like a team match or something like that against other teams online and like set it based on rules that you want to do but if you're talking about like just playing a friend online and inviting them I don't think that's something that you can do like randomly like I can't like play with you online and be on the same team like against random people here's a great too bad yeah he has a great question from Toby Martin how many different costumes is Pikachu have and does that include detective Pikachu it does not every character has eight different costumes and it does not include detective Pikachu but it does include Pikachu Libre from the pokken tournament series they're like that's a really big timely miss out on their part yeah I mean I'm pretty sure they started developing this game way before like detective Pikachu was a thing but I will also say that like there is opportunities for DLC on that sure ood hated yeah type 2 Pikachu in the game and another so detective Pikachu is not a costume but it is a spirit that you can unlock in the game spirit modes is like they're like story mode thing where you oh yeah okay oh so they do have a reference to the detective peek they have so many references in the game in like the spirit mode like it's it's insane almost 20 year old legacy game they better have some used or exhibit here's one from Hunter and Lee our hunter Lee how our Link and Zelda those are my Mane's Zelda's a lot better now Zelda's like air attacks like have more of a hitbox so they're it's easier to hit she's also much faster her side B doesn't like disable her in the air anymore so she can send out the phantom armor and then continue moving after that and her teleport like is pretty good at killing link is extremely different now link doesn't have the hookshot grab which makes his recovery a bit harder and but his bombs are better but you also have to detonate the bombs yourself now so they don't explode on impact because they're basing it off like breath of the wild link that makes sense that makes a lot of sense yeah thanks for that I really like the enhancer I really have understood what he just said right now I feel like you just blacked out and listening to Alfred smash jargon is like listening to the Qualcomm presentation yesterday no I don't understand what developers languages yeah well you haven't even gotten into frame rates yet so well we'll get to that eventually hunter Lee says while Luigi DLC dream is not dead he's got a point let's move on to Corning Sergio says great a foldable corning glass I'm it's very durable but what about the digitizer panel underneath it or digitizer and panel underneath it they will have to be elastic and good quality yes absolutely sir enjoys right that not with with any foldable device not only does the display have to be foldable but the battery has to have some like way of accounting for it yes and that the middle Park and fold and a lot of the components in the middle that actually bend that would all have to be kind of bendable and foldable but all the other stuff that you'd have to keep straight could be on either end of the device oh yes yes yeah if I were and I'm not an engineer but if I were designing this that's probably how I would do it yeah that's why it's so complicated to create something like this because you have to account for every single component and every single part of it and creating something like a bendable glass I think at least that to me fulfills the promise of what a foldable device would actually be mhm as opposed to like what it what is that like the Nintendo portable what is that a 3ds yeah that's just that's nice that's right that's not what people want out of a fault I think you're thinking more like an axe on em which were this there's like the screen there is a hinge there but there's like two screens context each other so it looks like one like that's that's what a foldable phone looks like right now the one that's in the market but it's got a hinge in the middle so it looks kind of weird right so getting rid of the hinge and making it seems legitimate yeah we saw the Samsung the other day the other week as well as this Chinese startup that also has a those that was that's what was like super obvious in those and that was one the startup one yeah yeah and I saw a photo of the Samsung one and like different lighting yeah that like you could clearly see the crease on that one too right and if it doesn't start with a crease after heavy use for you to one will it develop one how how you know it's strong is that glass gonna be if it's gonna be ultra ultra thin there are a lot of questions or further those aren't that's not glass right the Samsung one isn't it probably is plastic I was talking about the Corning oh okay but yeah definitely good questions for enjoy and that's why there's a lot to be skeptical about with both I find them fascinating and potentially like really exciting but I think there's a lot of kinks that need to be worked out with that stuff I mean it's a great idea every phone has some semblance of wear and tear we just got to be patient and wait to see where it goes because everything starts out rough everything starts out kind of crappy then you can put like 32 cameras on it 16 on each side and fold it out exactly we wouldn't want that that's perfect exactly gross gross all right we are almost at a time and we do need to knowledge it is our 500th episode we have somehow made it this far largely thanks to you guys so thank you so much for me art so anyways thank you so much but it's really cool that this started out is such like a loose experiment we somehow rallied on so long and we have wonderful people who continued to join us every single day yeah and new folks who come out of the woodwork every once in a while all over the world just want to express her sincere thanks to you we said we weren't gonna do anything special that was a bit of a lie so to kind of finish off the show today I've got something kind of planned here what though I knew it this is a surprise for us too but a vvg what is he doing I don't know he's he's leaving the microwave I know I'm down whoa this is happening I don't I don't know what's happening right this is amazing yeah but I always yell at you just kind of like I don't what has been get the crown mandatory fine that's fine yeah I'm just gonna put this here all right I ruined it that's usually Ben's job I know alright so 359 Awards we're going to pull out the award the person goes to goes to Roger Chang for the most screwed-up intros yes thank you like to thank 9 my constant allergies and inability to speak correctly in public settings for for this wonderful award thank you doing great next up - Ben Fox Ruben aka burger Larry the most times making the show late I don't get that many awards and finally to Alfred egg this one's pretty self-explanatory self-explanatory I think there's a horse because I'm like the workhorse of the show my work speaks for itself I'm probably not even speaking again all right so these awards were very special and I'll be taking the cost out of all of your paychecks I need something to accept on behalf of John though couldn't be with us today most actually just walked by cameo most times making the rest of us actually sound like dummies yeah we will definitely get her that unless it's about 5 G then everyone's down but anyways guys it's been a blast Thank You Bryan slicing - 500 more thank you guys again may is stay tuned in 2019 when we do a soft reboot starring Scarlett Johansson yes so until then go ahead and we're gonna sign off yeah 500th episode of wonderful surprise thanks BJ Thank You Bryan pre-show or to all right the 359 is available in iTunes tune in Feedburner stitcher google 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