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Android Atlas Ep. 85: Google Wallet has a hole in it

2012-02-16
is Google pick in your pocket well Samsung's note fit in there and all the legal news our little brains can understand all that more in this week's edition of welcome I'm Justin Eckhouse lancs high bitch gia mark BTW hello hello and special guest Emily Dreyfus hello guys hi hey thanks for joining thank you so much for having me so we we invited you on because you're awesome but also because you have an android phone yes that's true that is a fact I have a very old android phone that is not even running Gingerbread the first incredible my past phone I'm very familiar with it now you have the same problem I have which or had which is you you can't I upgrade it because of this weird space issue yeah so it tried to give me gingerbread the over-the-air update and I was very excited about it because I thought I was going to get all these other apps that I was missing in blah blah blah and then what happened was that my phone didn't have enough what I what I learned was it was dialer storage whatever that is was taking all this space on my phone and because of that there was not enough room to update at all but it took me like two months to figure that out and it kept saying you need to delete apps you need to make room so I offloaded all my photos all my videos and deleted basically every single app except for the apps that I need to live like Pandora and Yelp and this one right so I had like four apps on my phone now it was not even a smartphone it barely did anything and it still wouldn't upgrade to Gingerbread so I marched in to verizon and then they explained to me this is a really common problem that Incredibles are having an all android phones actually will eventually have this guy claimed event once you've had it long enough I don't know that was true or not and that is that it stores you're all your dialer information every phone call you've ever made and that actually takes up all the storage and it's not easy to access yourself when you go in to make room to get to the dialer storage so he deleted it all since then my phone is I don't have half my phone numbers things are totally messed up and I never got all the apps again that I was missing and you still didn't get you to and I still cannot get ginger read this yeah they actually have kind of solve this problem with ice cream sandwich so the problem is they sort of partition the storage into like this can only be used for apps and this can only be used for data and this can only be used for XYZ and they have got rid of that in an inn in the sorry ice cream sandwich okay which I think does solve that for a lot of people it was so annoying like because I actually have to check my work email all the time to see if like breaking news is coming out and should I be putting it on the homepage and when this was happening when it was when it's tyler chargers fully would not send me emails it was it was like I was living in the dark ages it was really frustrating and upsetting and terrible so what is your next phone so i'm really at an impasse i don't know what to do because there are so many android phones that I'm actually kind of overwhelmed about all the options and I don't want to do that you did which is get the Galaxy Nexus and then find out that a better one is coming out in three weeks let me tell you the secret okay that is always going to happen I know so then I think then I'm part of me is like well maybe I should just get a windows phone because then i will be very contrarian and then there won't be a better one coming out because there are like seven you might be on the wrong show if you're good you can start a new show you want the news today will help you figure out which phone to buy okay so what we're going to talk about some upcoming phones excuse me so let's jump into the news here with a google wallet which I was very excited about one of the reasons I bought my galaxy nexus because it has NFC and doesn't really come with google wallet because of screwed up I don't want to get into it just makes me mad but Google Wallet great idea just swipe your phone to pay for stuff I always want to use the NFC on my phone to like you know get into the elevator in the morning here I wish I didn't have to carry my key card around I could just swipe this like uh you guys know in my pocket we know you guys do yeah but we were talking about how if it was really gonna replace your wallet you need to also do other things like have your driver's license we're on it well I kind of I don't have my driver's license on it and I suspect if I took picture of my drivers life since then I got pulled over and I was like hey look here it's for it he's fired I work here but I do have this app called card star which lets me like get all my loyalty cards into their you like scan the barcode and it stores those and I use on all the time when I go to CVS or whatever because I hate those loyalty card programs but anyway Google Wallet so there was actually two cracks flash hacks that came out for Google Wallet one was a very complicated way to crack the Google out pin which you know was not practical but to just show that it could be done in a second which came out shortly after was a way to get access to the prepaid card which is tied to the phone and not necessarily to your account so you could just go into Google Wallet app clear settings and then it would prompt you to reset the pin and you could use the prepaid card those in there so not cool so dumb how could they not have thought of that whoops yeah yeah no it sucked um but they they first I'll say a little bit kind of blamed users and they're like well sure but why don't you have a you know passcode on your phone if you had a passcode on your phone then this wouldn't even be an issue which i agree i think everyone should have passcode on their phone in general but I you know I think sort of that's no excuse yeah exactly secure exactly Google come on especially yeah I mean they're dealing with your money they need to be as secure as possible and also there's lots of problems with phone locks because you can trace the swipes of the fingerprints and slena grease on the phone it was gross but true mmhmm yeah no that's definitely true so they did act quickly and they sort of said like hey if you have any issues as cause we'll fix this for you you know I think like all credit cards you're probably not liable for more than fifty dollars but then they did first they stopped issuing new prepaid credit cards for a while and then they fix the issue and they have sensory in able prepaid cards I mean the bigger issue with google wallet is currently you can only register one credit like citibank mastercard i think you know which not everyone the world has or you have to use this prepaid sort of work around where you get this prepaid mastercard which you have to load up with another card which is just this long process that i'm sure most people including myself don't do also because the only way to get google wallet on the Galaxy Nexus since you cannot download it from the market because verizon doesn't want you to have it is to download the apk separately so may this hack doesn't even matter because nobody well exactly we were talking about this one rumor has it yesterday really quickly just because actually Maggie Reardon was saying that maybe this hack is really poor tending the death knell of Google Wallet cuz no one's using it's not easy to access and they have this they had to take it offline to fix this who's using it besides you I don't know I mean I did it because I thought it was cool and cuz they give you ten dollars free when you install it oh that's kind of cool you know I can't resist free money yeah I don't I think when sprint comes out with their Galaxy Nexus which will have the Google Wallet pre-installed or at least accessible i don't know if it's pre-installed una that may change things as more NFC phones now it may change things I don't know the google wallet will you know we necessarily but i think some wallet solution is going to win out i really care what it is yeah i just needs to be easy yeah cuz the point is here exactly right yeah so maybe the hacks like this are sort of the next step into improving these services alright well wait and see what happens so we're going to mix things up a little bit here and we're gonna take a quick break right now and when we come back we're gonna talk about more samsung stuff stick around a lot about prizes new 4G LTE right you should be it's verizon's fastest most reliable 4G network where 4g LTE you'll get speeds up to 10 times faster than 3G so what does that mean well let's say you've got the new HT see vulnerable or even the LG vortex you can hook up your HTC or your LG to your 4g LTE and you'll have Verizon's 4G LTE in over 190 cities and 118 airports so it's faster the new Droid Razr by Motorola or the HTC reason or even the Samsung Galaxy Nexus you're chucking 4G LTE on almost our entire 3g footprint one song for sex the song is for second one movie one out download a 10 megabyte PowerPoint presentation in 15 seconds I really don't know what that means are you a business owner no i live off a settlement you're Native American officer got it one thing you were starting a small business and you want to run the entire business from your smartphone well I wouldn't want to do that like your droid razr HD series n or easier Samsung Galaxy Nexus less sounds time here's your 3g network let's put it this way if you aren't 4g know that you have to buy a droid binarize samsung strap or a pantech breakout compaq mini hippo or the droid xyboard tablet and what if i drop it in the toilet it breaks immediately verizon it's an old person's nightmare uh i love it it's funny cause it's true yeah i mean this is the issue we deal with all the time here is like when you're like oh what my mom wants know what phone i should buy most of us even android hardcores are just like just get an iphone I can't explain this to you that's too hard ah but then I did that I recommended one of my like older friends get an iphone and then the other day she said could you please write me an email with the step-by-step instructions of how to get one of my photos to Facebook and I was like it's really easy oh my god I don't even have an iphone but I know it probably takes one click a bison that just pre-integrated ya allah i also love that they use all the real product names yeah and it yeah yes they even got the worst name of the year and they're the cyborg oh I hate that the only reason they changed the name to the cyborg is because they didn't want to call the zoom too because everyone had such bad associations with the zoom oh that's that's my take on it I even realize it was like the same as the zune yeah I mean it's pretty much is the zoom too but it's you know the zoom was so delayed and so underwhelming when it came out and the SD card didn't work until I don't know three or six months after it came out and 4G came out six months late for it and it was a mess Oh like a thousand dollars too yes faster I don't know I it's as I board is good right let's talk about some real products the samsung galaxy note we took a look at this at CES actually had a guy from Samsung come on and demo it and you know the basic deal here is it's it's a big phone first of all right 5.3 inch not a tablet phone because a megaphone and make someone calls but it it you can write on it right it has a stylist a pen the s pen and you can write on it because that's what you want to do with your phone right and where does the stylus go drink a little pep pocket in the back okay yeah um yeah I mean we we talk we've talked about this before and I am definitely very negative of this concept I'm with Steve Jobs who's like you know you were born with the best stylist ever your finger um that's what she said hey maybe have flies on your show anyway generally I feel like yes the the great thing about android the Android ecosystem is that if you want a phone with a pen you can get that I don't understand why you'd want that but it's your choice yeah because there's a million choices you have every size every color yes yeah and I think the argument is that it's really just another mode of input you know I mean you can you can do all of the touchscreen things that you can do on a normal phone but if you happen to get an app that supports you know writing then you've got the stylus or the illusion Jessica dog-cart brought it onto dialed yesterday and she's actually showing how she was taking notes and meetings and stuff and it looked kind of cool i mean when you take notes in a meeting you're like sitting here trying to find the button press the button she was just scribbling stuff so it's kind of neat like that that's cool yeah you know what else does that a pen and paper just saying yeah yes it's a lot cheaper doesn't crash but can you email the paper yeah I can take a picture in it yeah nobody stands anything anymore did you take picture pictures all the time and like I've white boards and stuff she also says that in the review the response is kind of delayed it seems like if this is the core feature of the phone is the drawing to have response blade is kind of bad and require some training oh because I was gonna say that that would be fun for kids you know like if they're in the back see the car you could give it them and they could draw on it but if there was a delay and they have to learn how to use it exactly intuitive yeah and I think I think in the review that she also posted a picture of the character recognition which was not so great so it tried to you know transcribe some of what she had written right i mean this this has always been the problem I'm the guy who bought the thousand-dollar Newton when I was in college because I was like Newton it's so awesome it's going to change the world it was terrible waste of money um and then I had the palm which the only way it was usable like instead of this was this is kind of my favorite solution ever instead of fixing the handwriting recognition they just reinvented the alphabet there yeah just use graffiti yeah you so this is this is easier do you know about this gravy so is basically a new alphabet that you had to learn those way easier for mom to recognize expected you to change the way you wrote yeah yep I had one of those two and had like a little lesson thing in it earlier I would show you like different moves you'd make to make different letters and it so did you really did you guys actually I learn the whole thing and it worked great and you're still fluent and it's a couple years they actually have a graffiti app for Android for all of those people who missed that I don't know who those people are yeah I think I don't want to reminisce more about technology and expose my how old so yeah I mean it's great that they have this I think for people who want it but I wouldn't expect it to be sort of a breakaway success I mean it's just all so alien eating for people like me who have tiny little hands I could never get that phone as you can tell it barely hold the pen oh the size of the phone eyes of the phone yeah like I couldn't reach around and get the buttons it's just no it's not gonna work for me how are your pockets though yeah also too small also too small yeah well then you will not want to get the 10-point n 1 inch version of this either secondly will not so there's rumors that at Mobile World Congress Samsung will release a temple in one inch version and to be clear to be fair it's not a phone it's a tablet which makes a little more sense to me like I could see drawing on a tablet a lot of space that could be cool or fun and graphic designers could use it if you're thinking about professional people right professional people most like I'm like us you know right there headlines I like that I like the artwork in this post here yeah yeah very well done that is about the level that I my artistic skills are at so I don't I would expect the tablet to do better than the phone the problem with all of these are technologies that are really just sort of based on one manufacturer like there was the dual screen kyocera echo stuff is that developers probably will not they won't get wide support from developers anything when you have these special features you need a bunch of apps to take advantage of them and if you is it's only on samsung phones or it's only on LG phones or whatever then you kind of struggle to get that mass adoption from the developer community yeah unless you could build it in such a way that it actually could just kind of work with already existing apps and apps enough to change but what can you really do with a stylus on including angry birds from Anja exactly yeah fruit ninja that'd be good that would be good yeah we are solving problems sword-shaped stylist I think would you good for that there's a market for that hmm you should make that jaimer heard here first all right well we're not going to stop talking about Samsung because they're just so cool and interesting they have released or unveiled i should say it's not out yet the samsung galaxy tab 2 which is follow-up to the you'll guess guess this samsung galaxy tab 17 inch tablet which we have here are played with a bunch i'm not a big fan but it this the tab 2 is basically you know everything you would expect faster android 4.0 3g Wi-Fi you can get a Wi-Fi only version blah blah blah we're not going to talk about that we're going to talk about the price because that is what i find interesting the price is high don't avoid reporting reportedly yes this is thanks for keeping me journalistically and tap in check here the Wi-Fi only version is rumored to be 419 450 and the Wi-Fi + 3g is a rumor to be 523 to 568 that surprise across several european countries so we don't know what the US one will be necessarily or if these are real but my question is a 7-inch tablet starting at around for 20 when you compare that to the kindle fire at 199 I mean yeah and the ipad which is bigger and is only fifty dollars more right or 80 right yes so is that does this make any sense at all no and I go out on a limb here folks some say no why would they do this please say this isn't true Samsung does it does it have a better screen is that part of the rumor it does say that it's gonna get a pretty good screen right i mean i think it is higher res i mean it certainly can maybe it's a comes and models from eight gigs to 32 gigs so it has more memory it's faster but if you think yeah I mean it can come and 3g if you want but the Wi-Fi only one starts at 419 is reportedly so the question is what do you do with your tablet like if you're just watching movies reading books checking email why would you buy why would you spend more than 199 when so the fire does all that exactly especially when it says that it boasts that it's going to have the video hub which will have over 1000 films but like amazon has way more than that one is unlimited and like if you're part of prime you have the free ones i mean ya know exactly you can't compete i mean i guess if you want to use your own media i think it's probably better for streaming off of your own servers or doing all sorts of illicit stuff but um oh they're marketing this book criminal it could be another niche yeah I mean Samsung could be argued to be a criminal by some people so I know this doesn't make any sense to me and left for again for a small set of use cases if you're a gamer and you just need a high-power tablet or I don't know you're recalculating a hundred thousand sale spreadsheets on your 7 inch tablet then you're doing it wrong to start with but I guess you want a faster one but again these are just reported prices from a blog called Sammy's hub are you saying that's not credible I'm not saying anything I'm just you can go to your own conclusions from there in front of LG hub LG hub okay that's good I'm lucky gold star host rock eagle 30 p let's move on to our last samsung story of the day is it i think it is yes i believe so um actually i think there's a little tip that coming up but forget I said that so what are talking about hero legal battle so none of us are lawyers let's just preface the store with that and nor do we normally know what we're talking about consult a lawyer in preparing for this right but we do know how to read each each of us does know how to read is up for debate stroke a translate sort of so a couple things here we've been talking about the ongoing legal battle with Samsung and Apple for two decades now the latest is the the samsung galaxy tab 10.1 was banned in Germany because they say it infringed on apple and Apple has been fighting this you know in every country around the world that it's for sale and it seems and so Samsung modified the samsung galaxy 10.1 and release the 10.1 n which i guess was different enough that it cleared the german courts and is now going to be available for sale in germany so good job samsung except as we reported last week or possibly two weeks ago the European Union Commission European Union's European Commission that's a little repetitive I want to google it so not the European Union the American Commission no no no no not at all just likely yes thanks for clarifying that announced Dave they have launched a formal investigation into whether Samsung has used its wireless patent in patents in an anti-competitive way and this you know potentially is related to the apple store we talked about last week where Apple was forced to take down any of their devices I guess no this is not related it's related in that Motorola at force them to take down their devices because they had patents on 3g and so app allowed to take down the 3g stuff and then they had to license it from motorola and you know i think samsung it's sort of back and forth between like we own this ten percent of your product and you own this ten percent of our product and it's well in any way heads but maybe it is related because it to do with the licensing like motorola got the apple products taken off but then the rule is that you have to license the technology so they did it and then Apple got their products back and now this story is about how Samsung is in violation of the licensing rules I appreciate you making the me miss big spoke in the actually accurate no thank you she's right also I looked up on what the European Union's European Commission is and it's not a typo it is actually just it's called the European Commission is their legislative arm of the European Union your pin yin yin yin yin you you you you so yeah I mean I think this is going to be continuing back and forth we talked about Australia last week I think there's a new claims filed by Apple against Samsung in the US this week it's it is going to never end no but you know at least we'll have something to talk about every week all right so we're going to take a real break this time and we'll be back talking about some magic app welcome back because they were taking a picture and then looked at it later and been like who is that guy in the background every single picture or have you ever been that guy you're just walking down the street minding your own business and you realize you just walks through someone's picture I absolutely try to be that guy your photo bombing now um yeah I normally do that and then I go up to them and say did you want to meet autograph David Duke don't know why I don't try to promote that anyway so there is this a app or technology from a company called schelotto that lets you sort of take a picture and we're going to roll a little video demo for those of you on the video version of you know in this case your lovely girlfriend standing there with weird people walking by and then after the fact remove those weird people from the photo to expose the background so awesome and almost a little unbelievable totally is this real it's like when that there was that ad or that video online of the guy with his phone in Times Square and he would put it up to the big screens in Times Square and suddenly what was on the screen and there was a big video never like that's so cool i can't wave that come out how's it working good and then it was just a hoax just fake yeah this may be this is real well there's a company behind it yeah that's not nothing and then produced a video promoting it so we don't have details about when this is going to come out there's some rumor saying they will announce something at Mobile World Congress which is what next week's like februari 27th or something like that yeah so States banya so they're supposed to demo it but they say that it may not even come out to the to the android market it may just come pre-installed on certain device oh right reportedly reportedly anyway I want this so get it for me what's it called Oh skulls Schelotto brave Schelotto all right so next up we are going to talk about following on the sort of Barcelona Mobile World Congress theme what interesting devices we might see out of there and generally we don't like to you know go into the nuts of bolt of every little piece of hardware but there's some interesting things HTC for example is set to release the HTC Quattro which you know to no surprise is a quad-core tablet with one gig of ram and ice cream sandwich so good job there guys and then Emily's favorite company lucky goldstar no that's not a grocery store guys that is an LG it turns out he goats ours either that or it's like a pet food like a pet store yeah where you can get stuff for your goldfish exact yeah I just have no idea that LG stood for lucky gold star blew my mind and LG's a Korean company right yeah yeah we tried to translate this to see palace spoken and it turns out in Korean at least according to google translate you know which isn't always right it's pronounced lucky gold star except with a better accent than that there you go anyway so lucky gold star is theoretically or rumored to be releasing the LG optimus view which is kind of interesting because it is again a 5-inch screen we keep saying as bigger screens which I'm not a fan of I mean mine is big but it's actually too big for me 5-inch screen 1024 x 768 resolution and an unorthodox 4 by 3 aspect ratio so way to go the unorthodox route there LG thing I would wish LG would have a great smartphone I have like very fond feelings about LG because i used to have LG flip phones and they always made so well and beautifully and then I feel like once everyone's made the switch to smartphones they haven't been they haven't had a hit ever I think that's true maybe this optimist view will be it it'll see because us anyway the other fourth three aspect ratio is may be good for general usage but not great for watching movies most NTV which is you know all 16 9 and this one's supposed to have gingerbread right yeah I mean no maybe that would suck yeah don't do that don't release any more phones are gingerbread you're that lucky gold star yes you're that listen to me especially because we've been talking about ice cream sandwich for so long now and it's not even out on that many devices and I'm already totally sick of it I want the next one yeah exactly jelly bean I think you need to get yourself to Gingerbread what am I on company honey go oh honey come is 30 yeah and that's for tablet yeah you're uh I don't know I'm gonna get back to you on that froyo right yeah there you go Oh God alright so Samsung i know i said i was going to talk about that anymore but it looks like they have delayed the galaxy s3 which is kind of a bummer because I look like a cool phone but uh tell us Justin teh mind release the Samsung Galaxy S Plus which is a faster version of the galaxy nexus cuz they just want to piss off all people that just bought this phone okay this but one thing I would just point out to you is isn't your phone already blazingly fast or are you not showing off to me how amazingly fast it isn't your content it could be faster actually I won't really care about it if it's faster but if they come out with phone whose battery actually last through the day yeah I will be pissed you hear that pissed is that a lion because it sounds like a Rottweiler that isn't a very upset just ingenuous exactly anyway you will see what happens here I don't have many complaints except for the battery about my phone and it has rebooted by itself a couple times which is never a good thing to see from your phone yeah I mean they did this with the razr maxx too which was also stupid yeah alright let's wrap things up here with a quick story about the where's this google google rolla so we're calling this gorilla sounds like a fruit roll-up for a tootsie roll mmm I made them last night but they're vegan so it's okay and celebratory for Valentine's Day right so the google motorola merger has been approved finally by the US and europe which according to this story since all the other countries just do whatever we tell them is basically gonna wrap this deal up so China Israel and Taiwan do have to approve it but they are expected to just follow suit so we will see all core kinds of crazy Google rolla things as a result of us I guess oh good bad world domination yes um I don't know what will happen well I think that Motorola I mean they keep saying there's going to be this firewall between the two but I don't believe I don't buy into that I don't think think that um that's not true and that Motorola's going to start making the galaxy the Nexus phones and that you know I almost hope for better integration between the OS and the hardware yeah isn't that the whole point well I think the point it depends how you look at it but I think the point is patents really was a patent play not hardware play um but I don't see how that could be I mean once you buy it you're like oh look this company actually makes good phones they made the original droid and you know they make the cyborg they say they won't i say they will i think one of my predictions for this year actually had to do with that and it was on the I don't believe Google front um alright we have a lot of email so we just jump to email sure that cool let's do it all right first one is from Roy who says on last week's show you mentioned problems with fragmentation however you only mention software issues such as OSN custom overlays I being a samsung moment omen owner rooted of course know that fragmentation and hardware is far greater problem with Android ultimately the internal components of the individual phones hinder Android developers I know my phone is way at a date hardware wise but many others don't have dual-core processors dedicated graphics chips blah blah blah blah blah so he's basically saying it's difficult to write an app when you have to support 10,000 different CPUs speeds and types and hardware and we were kind of talking about this before in terms of the samsung note and the kyocera echo and yes I think this is definitely an issue compared to sort of other os's we're sort of other platforms like iphone where there's you know for phones right the sport and there are changes but supporting for changes compared to 20 million is different so I agree Roy um let's see what's next here oh this is from Kevin great show and welcome to the new co-hosts I guess that's you I think that's me uh we didn't know how to pronounce your name its difficult one the new coach G Marlins I noticed the last week's show there's no mention of Google's new privacy policy is this a new policy going to affect any of Google services on Android how they're going to be used he basically says we didn't address it and he's right we didn't address on last week's show but I think we addressed it three weeks ago so go back three weeks and listen to that is there an ad blocker for non rooted devices such as a browser ad blocking plugin i personally use adblock plus blah blah blah blah you know i don't know but all of our paychecks are paid by ads so stem yeah I can't help you with that but you know let us know you find out if you want to steal my steal money directly from the three of us that's all I'm saying and then lastly kevin says an app that the show hasn't mentioned it is google currents it has really slick magazine like interface and cnet news is one of the included publications not sure if this is tablet only i only have an android tablet at the moment no phone it is not tablet only it's not it's not tablet only that's true I don't I think we may have talked about it at some point but yeah my team actually manages our relationship with google currents and we spent a lot of time making it look good there and i think it's on a you know not just android phones and tablets but also iOS devices and you know check it out a great show look forward to hearing your input from the new co-host in the future game r-ga bar there we go so this we talked about google voice was the last week and how I wanted to make phone calls over Wi-Fi or VoIP calls with google voice and I was mad about that and we got a couple emails including this one from LD who I can only assume is Larry David isn't that the obvious assumption here yes uh suggest to imagine him like writing a new podcast that was pretty great yes Larry David if you like to come on as a guest on the show you know just send us another email cool like that happen but he suggests sipdroid CS sip simple and a couple other things to sort of make VoIP work on your phone which I definitely heard of but I also read that Google didn't want you to do this and they may shut down your account if you sort of used these ways to subvert them and use VoIP calling so anyone who does do this do it at your own risk and he sort of speculates that maybe it's an FCC thing why they don't do it I honestly think it's an FCC thing I think Google just doesn't want to piss off all the phone carriers by saying like hey we give everyone a way to make phone calls and not use your service haha love the show thanks Larry alright the next one is from Stephen Colbert yes you guys have really made it that BTW i know it's awesome so Stephen Colbert I'd like to be a new your show I don't want you just keep that money you need the Colbert bump if you think it really helped out love the show and she wanted to add my two cents I'm a retail consultant what I didn't know you had two jobs um at sprint and have to solve this for a lot of customers who got the nexus s 4g Gingerbread and later vanilla Android does not support facebook sync it was removed from the OS and it only supports Twitter now we talked about this last week someone asked about this and Google had sort of banned them because Facebook violates the terms of service for how you're allowed to sink or something like that yeah lame probably a privacy policy thing from facebook or google is also an awful experience for most users because facebook sucks on mobile true for real not to say you can't sink though several apps sync pictures and contacts these are like third party apps but other than that you can only sync with sense which does a pretty good job as maybe yeah yeah and your phone and I believe TouchWiz I don't know about blur but frankly I doubt anyone cares love the show and keep the Android news coming Stephen Colbert the thing is I gotta say I know Stephen Colbert has an iphone oh you do yeah well secretly he has endured Navy that's what I choose to believe that wasn't this is when um when Ryan Seacrest went on some key note to talk about some certain phone or former co-worker Ryan Seacrest exactly but then he had actually revealed that he uses blackberry by sending a tweet right beforehand on blackberry or maybe that was his manager sending between on his behalf from his blackberry inside that way someone was lying um yeah search for Cena TV classic if you want to see Andrew Ryan Seacrest on sanity I've never watched style decision check it out uh uh all right what to read this next email jamer okay uh this next one's from mark it says I've noticed that Jamar has a soft voice which is not a problem in and of itself but he compounds the problem by frequently maintaining a large distance between himself and the microphone mark I have no idea what you're talking about I think I mean thank you for your free feedback but i think i got it all under control no but really thank you mark Donnelly is a problem in here with the microphones were when you get the like appropriate distance here if you then turn to gesticulate you rot you like hit your face I hit my nose exactly it's really your problems kind of dangerous I helped a little there yeah thanks for email all right I think last one here from bill I am a couple episodes behind what is the deal with that bill really catch up keep up yeah come on but I've been hearing recently about Justin's comment on battery life of his Galaxy Nexus I also but do I complain about that much it doesn't seem like that I also bought one the other day when they were released and got the extended battery the current version of ice cream sandwiches for point no point to since that version was released google has updated the sort of open source code to 4.3 with several fixes in order to get so it he basically says 403 hasn't been released you know as an over there update to the phone however he routed his phone and installed a new rom that does have four point oh point 3 and that he sort of saw a massive increase in the battery saving what I'm trying to say our efficiency i think is the word and that he went from sort of getting like six hours to was he say 17 hours of use per charge which is huge right so it's true I don't really I don't know I i feel i have rooted my phone in the past and put on new roms but i always feel like it's a struggle and that for right now I'm just staying with stock but i will be excited when they actually release this because if they could just fix that battery life issue or like increase it by two or three fold and in software that be amazing and make me less angry about the Galaxy S Plus all right that is our show for today oh oh so much for having me on I had such a great time thanks for coming on we will have you back no doubt thank you when I get a new phone or when I root mine and make it work better yeah I look forward to seeing that we can root it on air we did in whatever early shows we actually had Darren kitchen on and he rooted his phone on the air and I think maybe that Antoine did it at one point as well yeah I mean I actually would love that because if I have to root it myself I'm going to be an idiot about it and so if I'm here in the loving supporting helping hands of you guys you can help me do it yeah all right there is a one click root friend the incredible it's one of the easiest phones to root 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