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Google play's apple pays and Android listens all that more on this week's edition of welcome android Alice weekly for March eat the 2012 special day I'm Justin Eckhouse alongside jmark BB hello and from New York City special guests brian bennett is he there there is some guys I like Harry good yeah thanks for joining us we have an action-packed show oh yeah isn't that what you're thinking that's exactly nothing we are going to fight to the death of three of us that's why people tuned in android atlas for the action well there was a there are some interesting news this week actually some interesting slightly confusing news to me that maybe you guys can help me understand so Android Market point away or didn't go away or is kind of different but is now called Google Play does what if you want to walk me through this what this means so dish android market still exist right yes yeah okay but then there's a google play thing what is that it's part of google play the android market so it's basically to me it looks like just a big rebranding thing so so the new google play rolls up the sale of apps music movies TV shows all that stuff books also android market used to be the place you would go to buy in addition to apps which i think everyone knows movies and music and books even if you work on an Android device yes yeah i mean i think you could buy that through there through the website through a desktop Chrome browser but actually the thing is is that and I understand what you're saying as far as a confusion goes because from what I understand it hasn't actually hit many phones yet right the new play app I haven't seen it yet seen it I have liked the music app so the music app suddenly said play I mean the market still says market i believe exactly yeah my phone yeah it's called playing music from my phone still has the market but I got it on my tablet on my samsung galaxy 10 yeah but I mean along with the market being updated to the Google Play name you know the the google music app it basically just changed its name it's it's pretty much the same app but now it says play music and then and then there's a play videos or something like that so they're basically trying to roll up everything into one interface eventually and so you have one wish a one stop shop right yeah I mean it's dropping it looks to me like they just kind of wanted to brand it as a google thing since it's going to be experienced across a lot of different devices not just Android devices and I think you know I think it's really confusing now but I think in the future it's it's meant to be less confusing for everybody you know considering this there's going to be Google TV boxes in people's homes and and this mysterious media box that we've been hearing about that Google's been developing so it's a good forward-looking strategy a minute I guess the way it has been it's kind of like if the I don't know I was going to give an example of how the apple app store or iTunes was called something but then I realized that itunes is actually kind of confusing because it's called itunes but then they have apps and movies in there mmm rebrand that too I play Apple do you think play yeah but I do see what they're doing here you know and Brian it kind of reminds me of uh remember of like the marketing around sony products a few years ago and it was all about play and had a big play button and like that show it like the ads would just show up with a big you know people you know very hip looking people walking down the street on some set and also this big like neon play button comes out no we're on the brick wall you know it's like kind of like this weird thing with they're trying to consolidate all things fun into one place so you're tempted to pounce and start spending money you know because I think it's all about money really it's all about making you buy and purchase you know their their goods that they want to sell and they're going ahead again head-to-head against amazon and and you know the Apple services and everything so you know hopefully it'll make sense eventually I think it does I think it's really going towards and get ready get your glasses ready to drink here because this is going to become our drink word the ecosystem right it's going towards like this isn't just a phone thing this is tablet thing this is a set-top box it connected TV thing a refrigerator thing whatever this content is available everywhere and when there's a lot of Mobile World Congress stuff i think that Eric Schmidt and Andy Rubin talked about they really wanted to push content as a means of adoption for tablets like they felt like the reason people were not using tablets as much or binds many Android tablets was because the content side wasn't up to par with competitors and you know I think this is one way to try and address that as sort of say like hey look we actually have all the content it's been hidden in this thing called android market before but really it's a Content marketplace and one of the things that has is apps of course but there's also movies music and blah blah blah blah so go ecosystem yeah you definitely what do I stricken over there remember no comment okay but the good thing for everybody is that a lot of the apps and movies and books and music are on sale now just to kind of celebrate their launch for the first week I think they're offering an app a day for a quarter and then their top 25 paid apps or fifty cents each which is severity swelling price right there people that get in there and start buying stuff yeah it's not the first time they did that right all summer they had like the 10-cent apps or yeah not summer winter I don't know yeah apps and they put music on sale before it's kind of Google's go to strategy is make things cheaper makes things free yeah you know here's the thing the problem I have with this unit guys have you ever bought an android app recently like that you really want that had to buy that you couldn't get for free uh I bought several during the 10-cent sale I'm curious which ones did you bike so I haven't actually run into an Android app that I that I would actually buy the bolt that's a bold statement didn't right there but just it's interesting we have the discussion actually when Antolin was on because he was like I was like who buys that many apt and he was like I don't know I by like five or six apps a month Hugh's behind mainly games I have bought like SwiftKey 00 keyboard replacement that's fifty cents right now oh is it yeah I think I've had a couple dollars i bought my podcast client which is dog catcher and i think i bought a game or two for my son but it's true i have not bought that many apps because maybe this is where you're going what the android store has done compared to sort of apple stores really pushed apps to do add based apps rather than pay apps hmm so there's usually a sort of a lighter ad-supported alternative to anything yeah i mean i find you know whenever I set up a new phone you know testing phones and I want to kind of get the experience of the phone I you know start porting over my apps and almost all the apps some pretty much all the apps i'm using are all free apps there were like google services or just stuff that's for free like you know tweetdeck some of the twitter facebook stuff whatever and maybe you know google listen you know that's one thing i actually am addicted to and it's failing me so i'm really upset by that out there you guys Google if you're listening man what's up with google listen yeah that's been terrible for years which is why i bought dog catcher because like just yeah yeah it was well worth the six bucks to get rid of all the frustration but point taken how about content I mean so have you bought movies music books um okay well let's see I I have taken the plunge and I did buy tracks from amazon so I definitely have done that before and the reason why is because I have a you know I tend to spend money on amazon so they got you locked into their ecosystem yes oh I fell into that one um yeah so yes I am I have been into that that ecosystem there that you know was certainly you know I I like it and it's be honest I've tried google music and I have such a horrible experience so far with it taken forever to upload tracks and oh alright such a pain so yeah so uh the paid content i've used has been really it's just been google music sorry uh yeah amazon music amazon music and you know let's see that's pretty much it honestly I haven't really I guess so much as a cheap guy yeah I'm gone too but I mean an intense one bought a lot of games and I think that's really the big difference if you do play a lot of games then there are a lot of you know premium titles that right I think you might want to pay for you know just like shadowgun and plants vs zombies and things like that those are ya not available for free and their games that a lot of people love especially people that are really into gaming even outside of their phones you know yeah indeed Oh actually I will amend this statement i realized i actually bought a bunch of google books Oh believe it or not did you read them on your phone or a tablet tablet yeah on a galaxy samsung galaxy tab I think you're the first person I have met who's done that really amazing well i mean i've bought amazon kindle butcher using the app too but yes actually i find that the google books interface is actually pretty good now and i dig how it does that you know animated page flipping thing I know it sounds lame but I books does that oh yeah I don't know well just for the record I've never owned an iOS device okay we applaud you wow wow like when I pick up an iphone it's like I'm like whoa okay all right I I know I remember how to do this now and then then I'm like wait I can't do this android does this you know I could do it like that and Android soon or not and Apple Spy is where's know regardless of what people get email after the show alright so that's google play for you let's move on a little bit and talk about the Google I don't know how we can say it without saying that Siri competitor or the serie killer I tried to avoid it there but it was going to come up is going to get awkward so we had heard rumors before about the the Star Trek themed how do you say it in major major major major major oh yeah there's a new story out that is sort of on CNN news about the Google assistant project which really is it's rumored to be coming out later this year in the fourth quarter and it's supposed to help people complete tasks as opposed to sort of the voice based search that Google kind of has now but it also helps you complete tasks a little bit because you can say navigate or text but this one does seem more down the Serie line and unlike Siri it will let third-party developers tap into the sort of that platform the voice platform to enable their own apps do that and and what their the rumors are at this is all rumors are saying is that its most it's supposed to be a do engine rather than sort of a search engine but it will have the full power of google behind it unlike siri which has some weird search engine that isn't google behind it i guess my question is is this the same as major are these two independent projects that are you know just going to converge at some point or they're being developed together are these the same people doing this I I'm just a little bit confused because we're you know we're kind of hearing different stories here right yeah I mean this is kind of par for the course with rumors right that we hear five different ones and one of them is right right maybe some of them are missing information campaign by Apple spies mmm that's which name do you like better though major or assistant I can say assistant without questioning myself of how it's supposed to be pronounced but may joel is much geekier it is assistance a little too generic I don't think they would call him angel because of copyright issues though is that right I think maybe CBS owns the right to Star Trek we're always playing in the lobby trouble with tribbles right I think you're right anyway I'm pretty excited for this I you know any voice recognition stuff to make things easier especially when driving is great and it is kind of cool that you know third-party developers would be able to tap into it you know maybe a yam or something you can tell that game you know buy me a siege tank right or your text messaging application I mean some of the problem with the voice recognition apps that I've seen is that you're sort of forced into using their Twitter interface for their text messaging and interface if I could chew pick and choose the apps that I still want to use but those apps could be voice enabled that would be awesome very cool it's just an ecosystem full voice on occasion they'll you know what it'd be all you guys are drinking I mean I'll put in my two cents to I mean I've been living the past week in Bluetooth world pretty much checking out some headsets and learning all about Bluetooth 40 and everything and a lot of it ties in a lot of these headset makers have their own apps like you're saying for voice commands and it gets a little confusing but still you can just flip over to the already built in google voice actions kind of voice record recognition features you know and use that instead with the headset so i think if they build it in greater functionality that's more like Siri dare I say then a lot of those apps may kind of jump on the built-in and enhanced features that are in the OS you know so that that would be awesome you know that would be awesome and I you know I do I mean I gotta tell you believe it or not windows phone has some interesting voice command features in it as well ouch yes who has enough I believe I said that right I don't even know anyone who has a windows form that's crazy oh yeah what's windows phone well it's like a phone right and it's got like Microsoft software oh I remember reading about that company yeah they're making the eighties I think comes with like a dot matrix printer if you okay get the order you know if you order within 24 hours a little paper clip that helps you dial oh my gosh so if you can't wait for Google assistant there is well there's a couple apps out but one that just came out recently or yesterday I think at the launch conference and this is called Robin and this it this is a voice app specifically aimed around driving um I like this name by the way you like it this name work I do Robin it's like you're robbing to your Batman I think so I think that's exactly what they're going for good but I love it so we were trying this early on and I'll try it here the idea is that it sits there in your passenger seat and you can theoretically although we could not get this to work at all wave your hand over the phone this is not the phone you're looking for and you then ask it about the parking situation or to navigate for you or the weather or traffic and get this it gets its traffic information from Twitter what does that even mean like it just looks for people tweeting about bad traffic and then it's like oh oh first of all like who would be tweeting in traffic that's a lot of DIC people a lot of people that's illegal yes we in some parts of country it's illegal here so here is Robin you and I'll wave my hand and we'll see if it talks oh did it work first off I like a navigate to San Francisco International Airport directions from your location to San Francisco int'l airport in san francisco by cops go back is that right yes thing crush him navigation I'll be on standby a damn body me what I'm not quite sure so navigation did work in our test but the weather would never work I've asked him what the weather was and all it would say is I'm putting out on the screen now and then it would just remain on the map screen so it just came out yesterday maybe they didn't test very much against ice cream sandwich come the other thing is I cannot feel life me figure out how to quit this application like I go home and my gps like the little thing saying you know GPS continue go away that makes for a funny sketch it maybe that's the deal it just noted i know it exactly is going on here yeah yes well basically you tried this yesterday right or was it today today okay today it's no coincidence that we're having a cuddle storm of proportion all right and i think that somehow this this device has becomes aware of itself it's now going to be reaching out all your appliances actually know your TV is going to start talking to you like this it's gonna be really wild Skynet are you sure you want to be watching The Real Housewives I'm not so sure that's good for you anyway it's in theory it's pretty cool maybe wait a month and then download it or maybe or does it works better on not ice cream sandwich phones I don't really know but I'll tell you one thing I am getting hungry yes are you getting hungry I am a little dessert yeah yeah we've got we've got a dessert based rumor for everybody all right back at us so it is rumored that as we had speculated the the next android OS after jellybean would be called KitKat we had speculated that but that is not in fact the case according to this rumor it will be called key lime pie I am a big fan of key lime pie altea I don't know key lime pie I I racked my brains last night trying to think of other k letter desserts and I know I could not come up with anything that was from this country those were yeah uh i mean yeah i love jelly beans to it's so weird that um you know jelly bean it hasn't making it firmed right have you heard a confirmation Brian about the jelly bean name no I don't believe it has been but I mean it makes me that that that makes absolute sense actually you know what I think it was confirmed I'm gonna go back and take a look because i think it was actually thank google did make a slip recently and said that are you talking about the jelly beans on the table at the mo yong gress yeah yeah yeah there what I think there was there was a kind of a slip confirmation so though I gotta tell you when I thought about this because i was chatting with some buddies in mind a few months ago we're talking about what would be the next versions you know and key lime pie did come up I mean we thought about that immediately we're like that would be awesome that's such a good name because everybody loves key lime pie right it's delicious I love jelly beans too though right an ice cream sandwiches well I just can't wait till they release it because we did when ice cream sandwich was released we ate ice cream sandwiches yes so first we'll have jelly beans i'll bring those in not that exciting I like jelly beans a key lime pie yeah I'll be excited that's another level right there who's cooking that Steven pin i'll pick it up pick it up at the store ah store alright that'll work bacon up its store anyway you guys think about that we going to take a quick break and we'll be back with some more exciting news about lawsuits and all sorts stuff and read related stay with us well we thought this was semi-official that uh we would just eat jelly beans we jump in got a little bit here wow I can't get any mmm here have some oh man catch whoever gonna have like 3d glasses mmm you might have talked to rest the show cuz this was a terrible mistake and Richard start about the ecosystem source local well custom water system you know what I actually during the break I was just double-checking now because you got you wet my appetite for jelly beans and yeah it doesn't look like it has officially been you know confirmed actually Billy I just got a message from Kent from Chicago in the chat room and he put the story in there that says asus corporate vp confirms jellybean is the next android OS hmm so this is from marsh fifth okay there we go Lee apparently just slip firmed it is a slip are those Joe has been confirmed by Google though I don't yeah so days is corporate yeah like those jellybeans huh those are cool yeah can we not get some of those please work on it mr. key lime pie jelly oh my god key lime pie jelly beans Wow okay let's talk about financials damn financial applications google wallet which I continue to be excited about have siloed onto my phone and have never used is going to be released on 10 devices this year on sprint so i think i am correct in saying that officially google wallet at least in the US has only supported on sprint phones yep that's right right so you can sideload it on to the galaxy nexus for a verizon but or onto the gsm version but sort of officially just on spread phones but there's going to be 10 more of them coming out sometime this year and it's interesting I really like the idea of this technology but they're about to face a lot of competition because the rival service which is Isis his about to come out and what so is that Isis is like from verizon and some other people yeah basically Isis is a I like using this word is a cabal of you know basically the three other major national US carriers so we've got verizon t-mobile and AT&T which is probably why they didn't want Google Wallet on their phones right exactly exactly and the ball should never do yes you know they're plotting away in a mountaintop somewhere in a Swiss Alps with long beards and lots of phones that they're trying to figure out what to put on them and what not to and apparently that's the thing because Google Google is in direct competition with the carriers in Isis because they want to have you know they want to basically they want to do is take all the information that you will give them as you use Google Wallet you know hopefully you know what you're doing you know but they'll take all that information which is very valuable to them and advertisers such as you know what what your purchase history is where you buy it where you are you know just analyze all that stuff and use it to sell ads against which is a lot more lucrative than just going to this supermarket with a credit card or something so so yes some coupon services and all sorts of related it's a whole new co system you can say uh yeah in general I'm really excited about the idea and I don't specifically care yet which service I use I just want a service you know but I don't know the details and I'm all for choice and I think that you know if they think Isis is good then why don't they just let Google NEX got you know heck am I talking about here google wallet on to verizon phones and let consumers choose build a better product that's on saying don't build walls around yourself i'm not that ecosystem exactly there's a lot more you can do with what we call in this NFC than just mobile payments though mobile payments is certainly the number one thing though we have some kind of gallery here that shows all the different stuff that you could do there's some cool photos of like parking meters and here's just like a payment machine and like a restore that yeah the next one is like unlocking a motorcycle yeah start your engines pretty cool right yeah troubling you can check in with Foursquare you could play games what I really want to do is to be able to use our our elevators and our security system here rather than carrying on my badge I think I mention this before I want to swipe my phone get on the elevator I like that yeah NFC NFC technically allows you to do that you know once once the software is you know it's enabled and all that stuff they probably have to update our whole building security system to it yeah but besides not I don't even think they would have to because from what I understand NFC communicates with RFID like it pretty seamless oh really yeah so any RFID tag it should be able to read that as well or you could do what I do which is just slap your ID on the back of your phone I'm pretend it's out of thing and then you're you're good to go pretty much anywhere you want to go in the building that's good that's awesome alright so story wait do we have one more we have do two more two more stories don't hang up yet don't turn it us off this one's a doozy yes this one's a doozy so we get asked about this all the time when is ice cream sandwich coming up for my phone well I have an answer sort of not really verizon is officially dishing out ICS to more than 12 devices everybody as far as when we have no idea but we have a list of the devices that will be getting it sometime sometime probably before key lime pie comes out definitely to go maybe not before jelly bean yeah so there's the list right there yeah HTC phones LG bunch Motorola and some samsung galaxy tab yeah so if you've got any of those devices just you know sit comfortably for a while and you'll get a good at whittling and you'll be all set you know guys I want to make a prediction here Oh see if this I got burned on this or not but I'm thinking that everything's related here man like we've got NFC we've got google wallet coming out and with sprint and 10 devices they want to put google wallet on then you've got ice cream sandwich coming to 12 devices on Verizon Verizon is you know part of Isis so I'm thinking and also speaking of NFC the motorola razr droid razr and droid razr maxx have NFC circuitry in them but they don't talk about it yes and their number one rule that I've seen don't talk about anything right so I'm thinking that these devices on verizon especially the motorola devices will get NFC capability or at least google wallet another on google odd I Center some sort of Isis wallet capability soon most likely maybe even at the ctia and in May you know maybe even sooner than that just a prediction speak on its beak on ya see here to hurt it here first so you're saying by ctia and May early May right you think we will see the release of Isis and ice cream sandwich on a bunch of verizon phones yes and I'm thinking as well the reason why I'm I was kind of thinking about this because I'm checking out this bluetooth headset by motorola called the elites liver right now people look at this and say oh it's just a headset but it actually has NFC circuitry built into its case that you use to pair it theoretically with other bones without having to enter any information or anything but it doesn't work yet on any motorola device so i'm thinking it's going to happen soon because they're already marketing this thing out there nordys they already talking about how it pairs with things so I'm thing is going to happen so for those of you wondering i i i bind to your belief i'll bet i'll bet for you i just wanted to give a little education to anyone wondering more about Isis in case you don't know is a goddess in ancient Egyptian religious beliefs she is worshipped as the ideal mother and wife as the major matron of nature and magick and Isis I guess means throne so I guess they want to have the mobile payment throne well that's actually really interesting because I spoke to a payment digital payment analysts a few months ago and he told me he told me this buzzword this buzz phrase that the one who the one who enrolls is the one who controls he who enrolls he said though the one who the one who enrolls is the one who controls I like I was all about control whisper deep heavy stuff we're talking about alright well raise your voices because we're about to talk legalese or as much as we can pretend to know we've had a lot of back and forth but who's paying who and just to confuse the issue a little bit more we talked what is this like two weeks ago maybe about how Motorola's demanding patent licensing fees from apple and apple had originally said whoa that's crazy that's way too much money they wanted like 2.5% but now according to a Dow Jones news report Apple has offered motorola mobility and samsung electronics deal somewhere between fifteen five to fifteen dollars per device which apparently is in the one to two and a half percent range so given them about what they want and so now we're in the situation where we have apple for every iOS device that they sell pain google essentially and we have you know google or android a manufacturer's paying microsoft for every device they make and then we have android maker like HTC pain apple it's just bizarre like you know why don't we just can they just all keep their money and just make their devices and this is insane so i guess if it's kind of like a weird money waterfall that circles around it's like a perpetual money machine right and do they all going to count this as like revenue their balance sheet so it actually works out better for all of them yeah i guess if 11 makes one company makes a windfall it just flows all the way around back again what makes it worse for us because oh yeah any crisis will just be probably driven up probably the lawyers win alright we are to the App of the Week point of the show and this has been sort of exploding I think over the last week this game called draw something I see non-stop tweets about it what is this yeah I mean you know for a long time even still today a lot of people were on the words with friends kind of thing playing scrabble against each other and then for a little while they were hanging with friends playing hangman and now it appears that draw something is ready to take the world by storm already has in fact it's kind of like pictionary but on your phone that's crazy hello and welcome to tap that app i'm jason parker and this is the show where we show off the hottest apps in the mobile space there's a hot new game that's made its way to the top of the itunes app store that challenges both your drawing ability and your ability to identify bad drawings it's called draw something it's very similar to that old board game pictionary where you would draw for someone and they would have to identify what you were drawing and draw something there's no time limits on your drawing because it's a turn-based game kind of like words with friends where you can take your time draw your picture and then you send it off and then your friend who will get the notification will then have their turn to guess your drawing and then draw a picture of their own to get started you sign up within the game or you can sign in through Facebook or Twitter to find friends once you have a game set up a screen comes up asking you to choose an easy medium or hard word so a word like son would be relatively easy to draw with you know just to yellow circle but then a word like rapture would be much harder to draw requiring a lot more work once you've selected your word you can start drawing right away or you can use the included tools like line width eraser width and you also have a limited number of colors that are up here on the top but you can buy more with sets using the coins that you earn within the game once you're satisfied with your drawing you can send it off to your friend and then your friend gets a chance to figure out what your drawing is and then draw a picture of his own for you to guess when it comes back your way each time you guess is drawing correctly you're awarded coins based on the difficulty of the word that was chosen so an easy word would get one coin where a hard word would get three coins you'll want to earn coins too because you use coins to buy more colors and you're only given a limited number of colors to start off this becomes extremely important when you have to draw plants and you have no green unfortunately color packs are pretty expensive so you're going to have to play a lot of games to earn enough coins to get the green for those plants the interesting thing about this game is that you're not competing against your friend the objects instead is to go for as many rounds as possible so it's like a team game you're working together to try to get past as many drawings as you can I should note the game is very addictive and I already have a few games going even though I've only played over the past few days draw something is on sale right now for 99 cents at the iTunes App Store but may move back to 199 soon so you better grab it while you can i'm jason parker from cnet and this has been tapped that at thanks for watching and we should mention even though that's it in the itunes app store it's actually available in the android market as well the google play store the google play android market ekla ecosystems store for 99 cents but there's also a free version do you know the difference between the free and the paint it's ad supported but don't you know it's pretty easy just back out of the ads and you won't notice them after a while that's what I do then you start drawing pictures of like fried chicken or you know pizzas and stuff whatever you see subconsciously subconsciously oh man i really want to draw a coke that looks like a pretty cool game I I will challenge you soon as we get out please do you are I have whipped but we don't play with each other yeah well we'd be we'd be helping each other alright I'm confused let's go on to email Android Alice at cnet com hey Android Alice I found your input engine you know and love from way back in the day with her palm OS trios Bobby blah anyway he's sort of basically he gives a link which will throw on the show notes for graffiti pro because I was you know getting all nostalgic about the old days of my palm and using graffiti and how that was awesome and so there's this app and I think a free version as well but this graffiti pros 299 and gives you sort of a full graffiti access which is the app that has its own sort of alphabet based on the English alphabet so that it could better understand your writing because traditionally apps that require just of natural writing are very poor at understanding how people right anyway cool thanks for that uh so I don't have the person's name in here but thanks next one is from Max I'm sitting here playing the android game burning sands 3 any chance he like makes this game always have to mention that on my asus prime while watching your show and find myself utterly puzzled with your statements that there are lack of tablet apps for android tablets all android tablet apps work all android apps work on tablets there are 300,000 tablet apps to choose from maybe you need to put down your beloved ipad and spend a little more time researching android max that's right all right max maybe you need to put down your burning sands 3 and listen to our show a little better because I believe what we said was there's very few apps optimized for tablet android devices and that those that there are it's hard to find because it's not really split up very well in the android marketplace door there huh maps thanks for your email thanks Madison next one is hall again yes from dame you love our viewers and our listeners hi guys you said you thought there was a difference between tablet and phone graphics but that's not entirely true when you make an android app you create a high middle and a low definition image to a 10-inch tablet will use the same image as a phone with a high res screen like the Galaxy Nexus however in many cases you will want to make a separate UI for a tablet but this is still fairly easy in the UI on is done by click and drag of XML keep up the good work of the show ding yeah I mean so I think he's correct here from what I have seen in the from developing android app the point being still to sort of Max's point a danes point is that really i think not from a technical point of view but from sort of a usability point of view you really do need to create a separate interface even if it's just somewhat tweaked to work well with a tablet versus a phone because you just use a tablet differently it has different challenges and it's a different size and just stretching stuff out or even using high-res images doesn't necessarily solve what you're trying to solve in an elegant way so solve it elegantly people all right I'm gonna read this last one from our good friend Stephen Colbert sure sure not a Stephen Colbert another the East even colder it's like wow you guys are really pulling in the celebrities here you know we got Larry David Stephen Colbert says I'm a fan of the Google Play branding except for the market I'm going to be calling it the market as long as I use Android regardless but that's beside the point why is my question I was reading an interview from cnet with Jamie Rosenberg where she said Google Play will become a single experience for users this creates a more powerful experience around Android and also increases opportunities for content partners to interact with more of Google's offerings did Google change the privacy policy again only this time slipping and under rebranding with the news of assistant coming out now Google's moves to change privacy to share content between more sources only makes sense in the effort to build something a step above Siri anyway it makes sense to me but I'm also the only place I've heard this room so I wanted to hear your opinion missed having show this week otherwise keep up the good work I think he's see must have wrote that yesterday yeah we having to show this week Stephen Colbert yeah by the way yeah right now and it's over almost yeah I mean I think basically just given a bunch of opinions here right did they change a privacy polygon fidelity they did well I mean no not not as a result of the Google Play rebrand right yeah but anyway I don't thanks for the comments you have any specific be back for him no I mean they did change the privacy policy you know just a couple of weeks ago not sure if its last week yeah or last week I'm not sure if he's aware of that one but no since then we haven't heard of any other privacy policy policy changes slipped under the rebranding that be sneaky that'd be evil maybe mm-hmm that might disrupt the ecosystem a little bit it would 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