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we predict the future all that more on this week's episode of welcome to android Atlas weekly episode 92 the final adventure I don't know I should have come up with a better subhead there for now we are now we're not here final frontier that's taken why not all right we'll just rip stuff off yeah is that owned by CBS that's cool right yeah yeah only it's not ours yeah fair use excellent yeah so as you have heard last week and other places around the internets this will be let's just say we're going on hiatus until the year 2020 probably I think we're going to restart after CES in January 2020 yeah I'm like a lamp that work for your schedule I don't know about that you know they'll have to like look that up but ok well we will send you a media invited to get back to us yeah january twenty twenty so until then rather than sort of leave you with a bunch of old news we wanted to give you a show that you could basically hold on to until then and just listen to over and over every week and we are going to predict what is going to happen in the Android ecosystem drink between now and 2020 yeah sound good sure work for you alright we're going to do this in the style of previous prediction shows such as the one we did in i guess like december of 2011 so this is this only eight years away 2020 sounds crazy like crazy here but that's eight years right not very far not very hard be 21 do we have child labor here is this Foxconn or something alright so we're gonna do a little round robin we're going to start with jmr he's going to tell us what he thinks and then we're going to point and laugh all right my first prediction is that Google Play Movies we bre rebranded as YouTube Google Play Movies re rebranded as YouTube yes that is right now there's a disconnect between YouTube yeah yeah Google movies whatever it's called what about the rest of Google Play google play about google play music perhaps the whole thing will be re rebranded as just the google market I think don't the movies already play in the YouTube player on the web I think because I bought I bought net bought I rented reservoir dogs and then how do you do that oh wait you can't play Google Play Movies on your phone if it's rooted and so they said well just go on to youtube and watch it there i still haven't done it oh did you think about a quarter cuz i did ya ready or four quarter but then something about seeing the YouTube icon in the corner just turns on that two-minute attention span and I'm like I can't sit through a whole movie with that YouTube icon in the corner well if you can't now you certainly will be by the year twenty twenty I like this i think this is good yeah i buy it I think it's a good rebranding alright I'll go next I am saying that Motorola I think you're just safe i'll just say yours you have a safe bet there yeah i'm going out a little limb motorola will cease to exist as a separate entity and it just gonna be part of google no one will say motor oil anymore it'll be google phones hmm I that firewall did that silly it's not going to happen what if they would if it's the other way around what if google just says there's more Keshi motorola and so we want to change all of our mobile initiatives to motorola play youtube it could be let me mow to roll of that up for you yep I think really like you know you call it roll in like I'm at a role that search real quick see how it works out they have they have a longer history right you know didn't they have like some of their products we're on the moon landings and stuff like that yeah they mean they've been around for as long as the radio has haven't they um you can sure I'll say yes that might be a stretch well I mean that is not the radio but they've been around since the days of radio communication I think then they get their start in like you know like walkie talkies or something hey it sounds right it did I don't buy that I'm making these things up well that's what we do here I'm gonna I'm gonna mark what you saw you that well yeah what do you hear I was gonna roll that and she if there was actually a fact it's gonna catch on trust me okay let's we'll keep working on that but when I give us your that your prediction I'll start with a serious one if serious as it gets those android custom skins that I hate so much since you I TouchWiz whatever else they'll eventually grow out of control and the OEMs want to seize more control of things and they'll eventually morph into offshoot branches and OSS OSS OS is in and of themselves they'll probably start building their own app stores their own sort of music distribution services to get around Google's rules for saying if you want to have the android google play market on your device you have to do this and in much like how we see different distributions of linux like for example ubuntu which is basically linux but it's something else we'll start seeing right phones that are based on android but not powered by android so this is basically what amazon is done yes for it will see you see what amazon you've done is gonna I mean the question is if at that point apps will be interoperable it probably will which you probably would have to say for example if you buy an HTC phone you wouldn't be able to just pop on the Play market you'd have to pop on to the HTC market play market interesting I could see that seems potentially possible but well feel like we already saw evidence of this last week two weeks ago at this point when HTC is rumored to be purchasing mog there is a distribution service that could be a step towards hey we want our own music distribution and we want to step outside of the umbrella of google play because google wants everything to look like ice cream sandwich and we want things to look all since Ian we want rain widgets and we're you looking simply put in a real sense a today so I guess is the underlying question here that the openness of Android will breed Oh future fragmentation we will finally live up to the the promise that all of all the doom and gloom that we've been uh that we've been forecasting well that is teary on a lighter note yeah what do you got next day bar um you know it kind of dovetails pretty well I think with what Antoine said I think android will be available as a standalone desktop OS and it will come loaded with chrome browser similar to the way windows comes with ie and I think that might mean that you know desktop OEMs you know my might add their own skins and and an installable saw are not an installable software software that you cannot get off just say crap where crap where so Android to this is basically taking what Motorola has done with the laptop not laptop but what do they call them went top yeah exactly and actually saying this isn't just a novelty now this is your actual OS it's all in one thing yeah the eighth asus had the thing and the thing and the thing yeah I'm duckin of you mean like I had a phone top yeah 3 user goes phone outlet that becomes the laptop I mean like art tablets already doing that I mean it seems like we're instead of starting from I understand what I think that's actually a good point but I think instead of starting from a phone standpoint it'll be like oh yeah instead of I think it I think maybe tablets will just take over the phone market I mean the laptop market in general I will start seeing more of that where if people will you know maybe have like some sort of a all of their stuff will be stored on the cloud maybe they'll have a keyboard they hook up to it every now and then for working but then you know maybe it just doesn't even matter what OS running cuz it's you're really just running the webos not the webos but I see what you did there the web bonus I like it I you know i'll give you i'm already starting to see people just like oh yeah i have a tablet I don't even have a laptop anything I need to do that it can't do my tablet I'll just borrow someone okay your salon see here or go sit down at the office and do it I know people who do that I mean I'm gonna reserve this one but I think you're certainly going to see this my question is is that the majority or is that the minority of sort of how people use it I feel like eventually that will be the majority I mean as you start making this simpler many people's needs for computing are pretty basic right I just need to get on the internet most of the time and then rush you're there I mean maybe a browser does about its own how far off are we closer than you think yeah I mean everything's already in the cloud right I'd say within the next 50 threat you heard it here first all right hi this is probably my most realistic of all predictions you ready for it iOS will just be a skin on top of Android ah I don't never have it ow what no this makes total sense like why develop your own OS when you can just skin it it'll be great Melissa will it be great well it'll be great for android users I guess we will fall out I want to into my hand on either okay to miss they will never bow down this would save apples so much money they can I mean they're all about building great you eyes they can still do that but they don't have to worry about the guts and the colonel and the talking to that Hardware blah blah blah but they need that they need the guts in the colonel in the talking to the hardware in order to control how people use their stuff yeah and they want to do is control it they're not going to give that up they will never suckle from the teat of the Android well I think they will but let me just preface this with they would never admit it so although i'll probably be right there'll be no way to prove you probably be ready there's you know that they will never admit this you will see down in seat rails they'll say linux write something like that if they say anything at all so i'm pretty sure i'm probably already right on this way it's impossible to prove right um 2020 yeah it's actually very possible to prove haha no way impossible what do you got next am i next um what am i next oh I think that Google will begin to tighten more control to tighten the reins and try to gain more control back over the look and feel of the android open source project they've already kind of done this with style guides and with rules for apps that can and can't be in the market as far as like you know what your app has to look like and what parts of the interface you can change and what not and I think that we're going to start seeing over the next couple years more head-butting between Google and those OEMs which will probably be the reason for my previous pretty good Google will you know start going like all right look it's been the Wild West for a while but if we want to be serious about taking on Apple we gotta stick to some standards than HTC and Samsung and LG are and among other Williams are just going to eventually go yeah we can't do that we need some sort of way to differentiate a product see prediction one this is quite a well thought-out argument here it makes Lamar own eyes look pretty silly actually I did it like five minutes before the show oh my finger on that pole tu marker I think well I think this is slightly likey likely but would be a really good thing and then I definitely now your previous prediction makes a lot more sense to me mm-hmm there's a theme here ose yeah it would be slightly likely more than slightly like I think it's a little more than slightly likely what's what's more than slightly what's it better likely like early likely fairly like me all right fairly likely i'll say it's likely back to gmr what do you got okay i think the android at home initiative will be in full swing and we will see lights appliances security systems etc all powered by Android I mean it sounds futuristic and far off but I think it's coming 20 20 by 2022 toasters yeah and I think we're going to embed NFC chips into our skin so that when we walk into the boom settings all done that'll be great I can't wait for that day I would have taken into the last two to four point oh in my skin you look bluetooth oh yeah low power and all yeah all right my prediction for the last two years by the way has been that there would be an android-powered toaster but I powered I mean I guess since it's been 20 years before we actually sit down and talk about it both ways twenty twelve years eight years what year is it it's 2012 okay um since it'll be a while before we actually talk about this again like what do you mean by powered like what's true we do not talk about the show we will be able to yeah you can control it it's gonna the logic will be controlled by an OS which is Android you'll be able to use your phone to set the exact Browning of your she's already going to go over to the toaster to put the parade in it so this is like come with a bread magazine that you load up in arguing in the wii or android powered android will put the bread in your toaster for you what do you need your deck for it what do you need the phone your toaster will track it'll track trends in your toasting habits things like that right I'm actually a guy stuck on machine let me like magazine loaded toaster like now I'm envisioning a toaster that you just put a clip of bread in just start shooting toes touch people it'll be the best thing since sliced bread knife or toaster I see what you did there haha alright my next one so the the final alphabetic release of Android will be out actually did some math on this and I think I'm about right on if they keep at the same pace so the final release zucchini bread will be released for the new phone the Sony sung nexus quasar because obviously sony and samsung up you know join forces at this point yes what are we gonna do after z you're just gonna like switch over to kanji chinese characters roman numerals her double a the aardvark phone they just goes badly and then switch to a different naming convention via theme different thing I think it's gonna be canine animals cuz you know apples got the you've got the cats this XP oh they'll be the dogs yeah the dogs um you want with zucchini bread yummy bread I was racking my brains laughs yeah what else do you got I got a sub zabaione which is an Italian dessert or the other one i have is zeppeli which is another Italian dessert and I've got nothing else for you zotz candy Zotz oh yeah a bubble thing to get in it I was actually a comic book to that but not a dessert no ah Zhu kini bread zucchini bread that's that's the most common one I don't know that you in a desert like it doesn't tell Marie tastes sweet it's sweet it's a lot of sugary yeah it is all right we don't need a doctor yeah we need to talk about my next prediction would he got which is somebody will finally build an android-powered iphone killer I mean you know how it's gonna be it's gonna be Apple me and that faced with the veet Apple revert to full-time patent trolling uh okay I think we're on the same page there yeah yeah pretty much the same guess yeah is there something going on behind me JT that's a tease dancing around oh I mean here to ask some questions sure yeah definitely uh all right what are we back to we're back anymore my chart okay this one's serious listen serious okay let me straighten my shirt and I'm pretty sure this is going to happen by 2020 android will become self-aware at which point it will send an austrian bodybuilder back in time to preemptively and any hope for a human rebellion this body builder will of course be wearing android-powered sunglasses awesome I need your clothes your boots I'll motorcycle here you go that he will take care of edward furlong i buy that so the sunglasses will be hooked into skynet wait Skynet's the day ha position so what I'll be a bit it's kind of notice kinda is what the van't the cybernetic the games the machines are powered by in the futures in this analogy Skynet is Android yeah and we're talking Terminator part 1 so Android is powered by its canada or Skynet is android-powered that's correct oh but then in the second movie it turns out that like the technology behind Android is the reason that humans could actually create android in the first place thereby making Android its own grandfather I think he's right whoa hey this is already coming true cuz google just recently hired the head of DARPA Regina I forget her name here here it is Regina Dugan she runs DARPA and that is Skynet basically yeah that's not very happy that is just a look very face that will end mankind no but he looks like very nice lady I'm sure hahaha let's just up there okay I'm just saying it's coming true good I think you're right mm-hmm I got it I got another one you ready for it Google TV will be 20 times better than it is today but still no one's going to use it mm-hmm I think they're not giving up on this thing you know I think this goes this goes kind of with your first prediction that Motorola will cease to exist as a separate entity maybe by that time cable boxes will be google-branded they're gonna Reaper and Google Play Movies as Google TV no I think they'll call them google youtube TV tube danimal yeah I mean why wouldn't they call it that just YouTube TV here's your YouTube box people will be like yeah let me get some of that youtube box I want two of them they should get on that um all right why don't people use a Google TV I know I know I don't you why don't ya why don't use google TV oh because i have an xbox why don't you use google TV because i have an xbox hahaha i have a wii I just don't use it cuz it's not very good and why isn't it very good um cuz it's not 20 times better than it is today do people use Apple TV cuz I don't know anyone knows one of those either I just leaped you I think they've thought about four million I think once they come out with the apps it'll be a lot better Google TV it's okay it just I don't want a computer I don't my TV to be a computer I just want to watch videos yeah that's that's kind of what I'm thinking is like Google TV apps mean nothing to me like I'm not gonna play Angry Birds on my TV it's just not gonna happen but content is kind of what I care about yeah and I think maybe the reason Apple TV works for people is because they're already invested in the night un's in itunes yeah right and Roku actually is pretty successful as well because they have a lot of content and it's easy and it's super cheap I mean Google TV came out with at a pretty high price point so they've had a lot of stumbling blocks but maybe someday when people start adopting Google Play maybe those leather binding YouTube YouTube Google Play to YouTube YouTube play all right aunt ID and Android it's actually Antoine play now all right and tube uh it's actually the best mispronunciation of my name ever let's see Google's self-driving cars which they've already been working on and are actually legal in two states right now will eventually evolved into an ad-supported android-powered Google cab service you'll be able to call a robo cab with your android phone and have it come automatically pick you up and take you to your location you'll just have to watch a couple video inter steel ads on your way that would be the best thing ever would it really of course I get like so far without the crappy drivers among you I don't know much about no not me self-driving cars though I mean are they you know oh there was an accident it was one accident but there was actually it turned out a dude ran into it or chick ran into it someone ran into it so it wasn't the cars false and ethics and mathematically I think the cars are safer than people at this point key factor in all of the trips people making and all the accidents they get to Google's cars honk and flip people off and no they just have like giant robo backpacks and arrays on them since they're raised can I go in the carpool lane I don't know they actually can't even drive in most states I think what some some southwestern southeastern southwestern state arizona and the ones they can drive us always like a driver they're ready and so unhappy over in the passenger seat other hand on the mercy break like my mom did when i was learning how to drive um alright well I for one want this to happen you're scared of it I'm a little scared I'm scared of people yes I am too that's why this needs to happen people can't they can't especially not the puter learn how to drive people the weird thing is like those car sharing services is that they're usually populated by people who don't normally drive and so I think Stu what I call weekend driver yeah they're the worst driver so if I see like a zipcar logo on a Prius coming up on me I get the hell out of the way I like river I like take an alternate route and all right this is completely off the subject all right jmar talk about it on quite us with your last prediction has particular t20 in 2020 instagram will still be coming very soon to android they're very very soon very is there now coming very soon but somebody 20 very very just to make it even closer you soons relatively Reno's relatively speaking on the scale of the entirety of civilization right though like geologically years we've been waiting is some blink yeah but a wrinkle and a billions and billions of years we've been around it that we have about relative to how long the earth has been around yeah back to the take the scale all the way back to the Big Bang let me just add that when it does come out it'll still be in beta 2 i'm 2020 but it's gonna be way better than iOS version oh yeah that was a very weird thing that that sort of assertion right oh yeah it's in some ways better than the iOS version in that it doesn't exist yet so okay um all right good one to my last one I'll say is more realistic and more boring as a result most android phones will have lytro cameras built-in very interesting mmm have you played with electro camera I have and aren't they like the shape of a candy like the size of a candy bar a physical lytro camera will be built in yeah it will be like a long light telescope coming up no they might row technology will be built it is really what I'm getting it it's a good minute arises yes the audience that doesn't know what light rose may be light field camera so basically captures every sort of angle of light and correct me if I'm wrong here so that after the fact you can actually focus the camera on whatever you wanted to so if you take a shot of Jim are here I could say oh I actually wanted to focus on the wall and not on Jay Mars face happens all the time yes and I can do that after the fact in the their software so I think this would be great for camera phones where you're just like get it out quick and you don't necessarily have time to focus it very well when you take a picture and yeah we're looking at some letters that the gallery brine calling in it taking pictures of himself yeah watch this is the one of my drone so yeah we'll click here in the boom yeah whoa I didn't even see that guy back there so let's focus on the stuff in the back it's right there it's pretty cool I think it's definitely still a little early stage with it but uh you know it'll be perfected and in all of our phones hmm what they need is like an automatic like screen cleaner because i find that like every time I maybe it's just me I'm obsessive about keeping the lens on my phone clean but this there's always like crud in there and before I take any picture of wipe the lens off with my shirt tation you're talking about windshield wipers yeah like sort of nano or oleophobic technology than the right word oh like oh yeah a little bit well it is for the nothing I may have missed yeah yeah that would like that on like the the lens I think that your robot will just take care of that for you don't worry about it give us your next prediction my left prediction since I wrote them out of order uh a singularity will have happened by 20 20 and we will actually be powered by Android through some weird synthesis of the organic and technologic you know that or the world to end on black friday this year and we want to worry about it anymore I'm so likely or what's what's even more than likely more really likely extremely likely that's what I'm gonna say extremely okay okay I'm gonna go with insane happen and then you know I so I heard so I think that is our predictions I heard Stephen had one big prediction oh yeah I have a really very generic prediction that I will own an Android device in the year by the year twenty twenty that's my prediction I'm gonna have to invoke the the jason howell rule and that you can't make a prediction that you have control over that's true he did predict that he was gonna get a new android phone in the nitrogen is not a new phone now will your device via phone probably wore a toaster it's probably most likely gonna be I think it'll be a toaster I think it should go get your range and earrings yeah android-powered earring hey Doc destroyed monocle like a look like a it is very only the very rich man had repaired pocket watch though just under on his chain pocket protector how does that work it just means they take a rocket I got their phone okay hahaha I'll go with this cat a screen on it it's a flexible OLED screen um alright do we have anything else any other lingering prediction Joanna may I have a real quick note about what we're talking about early about nokia no idea was actually founded in the year 1865 when i'm up it was incorporated awake where we talking sorry about that hang on i say i was gonna roll them roll it real quick I just rolled it motorola was rolled in September fifth 1928 1928 yes Wow 19-20 for anyone that's interested in nokia was eighteen sixty five that's gold yeah they started in Chicago Illinois as the Galvin Manufacturing Corporation and she said she didn't know that who and they were one of the roller nokia motorola I were one of the first two commercially make the first commercially successful car radios see ya I knew something that's Linda that was a completely being that I was invented to run they've been around for as long as the radio has I didn't specify car radio but when to the radio radios before 1928 the radio and Silva yeah but they had personally I'm feeling them first commercially in cars okay and then they changed their name to Motorola in nineteen thirty see you learned something here I think that is our show today we actually have to go the apple store and get iphone so we gotta run I'm glad I I actually predict that I in 2020 I'll still have to sunder for buying is your contract you sound like any inside red 13 year contract but you get a great price the devil great price that's why verizon's logos rid um so the show is going away until as we said january twenty twenty but soon and then we are not so we'll just be here in the studio stare at each other blankly everyone's then shoving away we will be here doing a variety of things 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