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from the top of the CBS interactive building in san francisco california it's the apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host Bryan tongue what up Stephen yo what's up man west coast to the west coast oh that's right you're in LA I should have said from somewhere in LA brian Tong some random corner what's up everybody welcome to apple pie extra crunchy this is episode 19 steven we sell jobs i neva so night it's pretty amazing so what we want to do guys there is so much to talk about we have apple TV news we have apple watch 2 news we also have that that iphone case you know what i'm talking about that iphone case to talk about so we have a lot of jump into we also always make this show all about you guys and you guys continue to call us 1 800 61 62 63 eight is the number to reach us at leave us your name where you're from get your comments your messages and also if you guys have bad apples of your own because sometimes we throw them on the show we want to hear your bad apples because it's all we're all like simple we're all like kumbaya sympatico we're all like the same right yeah you know what I was also thinking is if they have bad apples and they can like illustrate it via video like tweet us a video like a vine or an Instagram video or something and maybe we'll put on the show I thought that we kind of fun to that requires a lot of effort but if they do we will reward that effort that's all I'm saying yes so let's get into it I'm a report from Bloomberg kind of dampers hopes of what Apple is trying to do with their live television service the report says that Apple is said to have suspended their effort to develop the live TV service and what is really behind this is that les Moonves at a recent conference told people that Apple has put its live TV plans on hold there's a follow-up article on recode by Peter Kafka that basically Apple has like they're used to been throwing their weight around and been asking the content creators networks to really build this slim down base package for about thirty dollars or just under it that has maybe a dozen to 14 channels but then the networks are saying look we don't on our other networks for example ABC is also has like ESPN they have disney they don't want their other networks to be left out of this base package because more most likely people will just buy the base package and they may not want those extra cable stations that's where the friction is happening Apple's trying to say no this is what we want to do and the content creators are saying and they are the ones that have all the power right Steven they're the ones that Affleck on tenth they're saying um no we really don't want to do that so because of that it looks like at least as far back as a couple months Apple has pretty much bowed out of pushing you know to push this live service out who does it hurt the most it hurts consumers and really their Apple TV product right I mean after we probably needs to have this live TV service and they just keep on talking about it this is the future of television well guess what the future of television still isn't here I know we'll all the television broadcast stations are getting on board and they're putting all their stuff online themselves so you know why why would they need apple I think is their argument already we need you we're just going to put our stuff online and lock it down ourselves and also I mean look you see that a lot of content companies they're actually making some of their channels or networks are programming just directly available through through an app now right like to an apple TV app CBS has one NBC has one we already know about Hulu HBO has their own they're starting to say forget it we're not going to give Apple all this we're just gonna build our own apps that people come to us you know Apple is the kind of the middleman but their apps live on other platforms as well it's not they don't have to just go to apple and again I kind of repeat this story where when itunes came up with the itunes music store the music industry was in shambles they were trying to look for ways to make money and itunes was the way for them to kind of reinvent itself through digital distribution there was nothing else really out there but I don't need itunes did not save music at all no they know they heard I I mean it's argued you could argue that it hurt them where I yes it actually slowed everything down and I think maybe a lot of the TV broadcast companies have seen that and they you know they see what history has proven so the little scared to get on board hey steven has a music guy do you feel like the itunes store the music store was kind of part of the I guess I don't want to say the death of the album but people can now just kind of pick and choose a single song and just forget about the album do you think that was part like that hurt the album I think it did hurt the album it changed everyone's listening habits also you know everyone listens two things on shuffle they don't really listen to albums anymore but yeah I mean it kind of fragmented music a little bit you know in it it into you know just kind of slowed progress of music I guess but I some people call me call those old guys in the last thing because we were complaining about the headphone jack so y'all I gotta put that in right now so I got it I got it like stay away from saying things like that like you know I don't know innovation we want innovation for sure no no you can say what you could say whatever you want they just wish they just wish they were here with us that's nice my planing about it um so you know I think though if Apple doesn't release this live TV service next year let's pretend it doesn't even come out I think it's a huge fail for just the Apple platform as a whole it just shows how little power Apple has in in that side of the business now right from a negotiating point they're trying to put it put it down the these these networks don't need them people are yes people are consuming content online but people are still also still watching TV quite honestly maybe not as much but they're finding you know episodes or shows that they want through other avenues and Apple TVs live service will not save anyone and that's why they don't no one really watches TV live anymore anyway you know like you our own episode the next day on netflix or something like that so I feel like live TV sort of dying except for sports and like got you know big event thing so you know absolutely right it's all over there I think the way that TV can evolve though and it would require you know the networks to really develop a specific app is somehow someway you know you have like if people playing around with a new Apple TV there's this QVC app and I like use an example where you can like buy stuff while they're talking about on on the television or on the video display if we can start actually doing live pulling in live interacting through like an actual app that is ubiquitous and we can really interact with the show like what if you could when you're watching a late night show even though I don't even watch late-night show TV anymore what if you could like there's like three options on the bottom of your screen and you could choose what question that let's say Fallon or Kimmel or whoever asks next just cuz it's like the audience question right yeah like bringing that hyper engagement we still haven't seen that yet we've always talked about interactive TV that's just something that I just want to see even in sports would be fun to like you know if there were poles and just guessing what happens in the game you could voteban you could see a little pole in the corner that that hasn't happened yet and I know people are trying to figure that out you've been trying to figure that out for years you could argue that American Idol and shows like that do have do have things like that you know where people call in and vote and stuff so you that stuff is happening where they try to get the audience everyone's like every show has a hashtag now and they want people to go talk about the show so you can argue that that yet but yeah I agree with you it needs to be built out more like I mean YouTube like I can go on this YouTube right now with all the people watching us and chat to them and you know talk to them in real time so and say hey it's a yo-yo I'm gonna can I just type ii yo right now no I'll we come alone they're like yeah that would be cool but I don't watch anything live that's one of them to say so Apple watch um so that's Apple TV news it's kind of a little Bugaboo my phone just went off with the text message I hope you didn't hear that maybe cuz i chatted hello guys in the youtube anyways as transitioning over apple TV kind of a bummer but we'll see how that all plays out Apple watch 2 News this rumor comes to us from nine to five mac and 9th if I Mac again geez breaks like a ninety percent of the big news these days I swear they report that Apple plans the March Apple I'm March Apple watch to event the next generation apple watch will be reportedly coming or announced in march with it expected to ship out and be available sometime in April which would be pretty much a year after the original model went on sale the crazy thing about this is they also reported a while ago that they were actually already working on prototypes for this 2nd gen apple watch before the first Apple watch even went on sale oh wow so they've been sitting on this for a long time they've been playing with is with you know a built-in Wi-Fi on the watch which is something I've asked for so it's completely independent of the phone if when you're around Wi-Fi a FaceTime camera has been played around with the idea of it with Apple a thinner form factor but still around the same battery life those things are nice I still don't know if even those things make it compelling enough for me to want to get one like quite honestly I'm looking to sell my like I haven't said this yet but I'm looking to sell my Apple watch I'm gonna sell this weekend cuz I just don't use it yeah I literally don't use it I'm like you could probably still get most your money back to i mean i don't think that I'm gonna I'm gonna find out how much money i can get back on it I really am if i can get two-thirds of my money back that's pretty good deal yeah i bet you can get more cuz i think appreciation they don't they know dude appreciate you know i'm gonna yeah me maybe i should be like used by brian Tong seen it and it's gonna be like a fifty bucks yeah yeah I they don't want that um nine if I Mac also reports that the iphone 6c that rumored kind of budget four-inch style phone will also potentially be announced at this March event we will wait and see but that's kind of the latest around the Apple watch to a lot of people have been like tweeting and asking should i buy an Apple watch because you see all these sales for them that are around a hundred dollars off right best buy has a good deal pineapple wats get a hundred bucks off who wouldn't be like hmm maybe i'll give this a chance I'm telling you don't give this a chance that's coming from Bryant on to I'm serious like I'm serious like I'm wearing my Apple watch right now I feel like half the time now I don't even charge my Apple watch dude I just wear it every time I see you wearing it it's not on it's just black it's so true it's so true I mean that's it's become more of like a fashion bracelet than an actual watch it's kind of sad right that's funny so um but just a word of recommendation I would I would at least if you haven't purchased an Apple watch yet if you're going to do it and you're really curious I would at least wait for the second gen it's just gonna be better that's just the bottom line um so we'll see how that goes now if we're talking about products at Apple is actually just released Steven you saw I'm sure you saw what Apple smart battery case look like did you did you see it I'm looking at it now and it looks to the first time you've seen it it looks like looks like an iPod Touch trapped within an iphone something it's huge yeah I I said this is what it looks like when the iphone 6 swallows an iphone 5 yeah so this is Apple smart battery case um and this this whole thing like it's the irony of this all is that we talked about last week how Apple was rumored to be potentially removing the headphone jack to make an iphone thinner to bring a potential lightning cable adapter that would allow you to use lightning enabled headphones this is all you know stuff that might come down the road and by making your phone thinner right you're by Apple being so insistent on making everything thin it's going to reduce your battery life and now apples like releasing their own battery case that's great like that makes and you know they're saying oh yeah you know we want to give it as an accessory like there if you have seen this and I know like eighty percent of you have seen this by now by the time you hear this this thing is fugly dude it is like there is no way if Johnny I've really signed off on this I will not call Apple the best design team in the industry right I cannot I refuse to I mean there's it expands the size of your phone oh my gosh by look at that huge it's over dinner waiting slides into another lightning cable there's like a lightning cable and you plug in a lightning cable to a lightning cable it's it looks okay I'm gonna get I will give it to I will give it props on two on two parts now the actual cases rubberized so it does make it easier to put the phone in again this is a category that has been around for like four to five years mophie and incipio have had actual battery packs like this yeah so I will say okay fine Apple you made it like rubberized so it's easy to put in they also because it's linked with their software you can actually see like through your notifications how much power is left on the phone as well as how much power is left on the battery pack so I'll give them kudos cool yeah but i'll keep my kudos for those two things the biggest thing though that is also bothers me is that this battery pack it's 99 bucks it has eighty percent an 80% recharge for your iphone the other battery packs out on the industry that quote unquote our little bulkier but let's be honest they're just designed better cuz they're smoother they give you a hundred percent charge so this Apple battery case doesn't even give you the same amount of power charges the other ones too when you said it was a hundred dollars I almost threw up in my mouth I can't believe it that expensive I can't believe it's that expensive if you tasted the head for the baguette throw a hundred dollars a hundred dollars man and my gosh people were you know some some guy was like oh why are you all you're just hating on the iphone case like do you even like apple look I will tell you here I will tell people over and over I just expect more from Apple like Apple has been one of the greatest tech companies to you know revolutionize new industries and take things and evolve them and just do great things but it's really been like a year where they've released a lot of stuff but a lot of them have had like kind of major flaws with them apple TV half baked apple watch half-baked iPad pros like a Microsoft Surface copy but not as good you know it's just a bigger iPad and then they released this battery case it's like to me it's like what's going on over there you know what I'm saying step backwards yeah yeah yeah it's it's definitely it's something you know if anyone said something has changed of course the leadership has changed and the philosophy has changed because this is a product category that has been out as an accessory for like I said for 25 years I really feel like because Tim Cook is all about margins and making money he said look they can see the retail data they know what's selling they said to themselves look these battery cases are selling a lot let's make our own battery case we put an apple logo on it and people are gonna buy it I really feel like that blew the vent out behind the last sentence you said we put an apple logo on it and people are gonna buy it that is exactly what they were they were thinking probably I'm serious you know what I'm saying like look they they took the iphone which they were only going to produce in one size they saw what Sam son was doing with their larger screen phones and it was taking market share away Apple made their own large screen phone people started not in droves but people actually did start coming back to Apple because they finally had a large screen phone yeah it you know it's so you know Tim Cook's thinks more from a pragmatic business margin standpoint um you can say the Apple watches you know they're they're like cool fresh product but it just doesn't do enough so I just think that I'm really curious to see what they do next year because that'll really I already have a lot of evidence in front of me from this year but next year to me is even more pivotal it's like if we start feeling like this is truly a different company I already feel like it's a different company but that will tell me if they are truly a different company moving forward it's definitely been the narrative the last like year and a half right Apple something's wrong with Apple like I just hear it a lot you know so it's it's tough next year is gonna be very interesting what's right yeah and you know someone I was talking to someone and it was like they brought up a point Oh none of this you know the classic none of this would have happened if Steve Jobs was here and I don't know if that's necessarily the case on all fronts but i do think certain things would not have happened no yeah i do see that all the time which is funny i love that none of this happen wws JD ? get that I'm like oh goodness so um you know that that's my frustration the smartphone case that's my frustration with Apple is we're not seeing the same Apple that we've seen before and there it's just in little ways in all their products and it's just one of those things that people that are the true zealots that they don't want to hear it there they like get frustrated when I point this out I'm looking out for you and for us and for those of us who spend our money on tech and there are plenty of other options and it's not that I I'm hating on them I'm just keeping it real and I think some people misinterpret that you know they get their feelings hurt so I will give them props so for this one thing that a a caller called us about actually last week about oh well you know the ipad take advantage of the USB 3.1 the port well Apple this week released a lightning to SD card reader so it has a lightning cable connection and an SD card reader connector it is the first adapter for the ipad pro that's going to take advantage of the USB 3 points do you remember we were talking about this yeah that is cool that is kind of cool and that would allow we were talking about like you know they need pro apps to encourage people to actually use this as a pro machine they need will Apple make an adapter that actually allows you to do this we were kind of pondering it well they came out they they clearly listen to our show and made it in a week Oh totally totally right all over video producers around CNN are gonna love this because we have card readers like everywhere all over the office so you know for someone like I just went to ok I this sounded really bad i was like oh humble brag i just went to this star wars press conference yeah ok bridge and let's take all these photos that I had to upload but it would have been cool just I did use my laptop to process them in a blah blah blah but it would have been cool just to be able to stick that card in and then just throw it right onto my ipad just so i could have them and look at them on the ride home you know oh yeah totally and just play with them and then post them or whatever but i think this is super useful in just give me some actual pro apps Apple that's all I'm asking for ok yes that's all I'm asked for sir would you consider doing actual like pro audio work on anything but a computer honestly beach i'm just curious sure I mean yeah you know I'm a fan of using any tool available to me and you know there's like lots of music apps on the iPad another I use acid this us silly acid Steve Jobs used ass yeah sony acid on the pc i use that all the time but I do the only thing I really use an ipad for and music production is just as a controller so i can be in the same room with a band or something you know and you can still control your pc from a distance so that is very you guys are cool pc yeah like you know i'll have like my pro tools interface on on the on the ipad and I can hit record I can be within the room with the band and like kind of be helping them and you know cool so that definitely works out but um you I mean I'm a fan of using any technology that is available to me that's good stuff alright beach' we're gonna crunch do some of these because we've got we're gonna get to all your calls just some quick updates Apple released a flood of software updates again so we're gonna kind of hammer through some of this I OS 9.2 has some new tidbits there's things like it has support for that USB camera daftar we just talked about a mail drop this is a cool feature that some of you may or may not be familiar with if you go to if you log into your iCloud account on a web browser and if you go into the settings of your mail app there's an option to turn on this mail drop feature that allows you to send files up to five gigs in size ooh that is awesome yeah so I OS 9.2 supports the mail drop feature now also you get the the big it's the biggest thing though that's still bugs me probably bugs it should bug YouTube beach is that the podcast app on tablets still does not play video fullscreen after this update still plays it on this freaking like two inch by two inch square that is crazy I can't this thing out that is so horrible that's a bad out I hope I wanna yeah I want people to call with their bad apples gonna be like it shows a bat Apple your show the bat Bieber bite rules man you talking about is there a you know we should start the Bieber bite we could cric each week we could critique a new song the reason why I'm thrown about Bieber bites because there's an update to the Apple music app too and they have bieber right here featured as ya know the image that they used what is it about our show that's like four weeks in a row cuz better man the bieber fever is alive it is there's a funny there's a funny meme that came out someone wrote that if if Justin keeps on dropping this many jams I'm gonna start becoming a believer okay back on topic is TV OS also basically Mac os10 got an update watch OS 2.1 got an update but TV OS has some really cool updates it now supports Apple music if you have an apple music account so you can through Siri play your Apple music the remote app one of the things that we complained about earlier now works with the new TV OS 9.1 so that app that's on your phone or your tablet that you can use to will now be able to be used as a controller for your Apple TV which is really cool on this again is for the new Apple TV and according to a BuzzFeed report a John pets Kowski who spoke to Eddy Cue said that they are working by the first half of next year for the apple remote app to be compatible with with the Serie Siri voice control nice so you can just talk directly to your phone pretty much eliminates you having to use any type of you don't have to use that Apple TV remote at all you could just use your phone or your tablet exclusively so they are working on that that's awesome and I love the picture of Willy Wonka they're showing the apps so beautiful uh just a wrap up things before we have this call I love this this is a this was posted where Banksy you know him kind of the urban street artist but who also has infused kind of political messages with some of his art that you know there's actually a guide for certain cities of where you can find a Banksy um there's a few in San Francisco actually are there really I gotta go see ya huge few of them I don't know if they've replaced them or not but there are few Banksy's in San Francisco so what Banksy did here is he created a new piece that puts Steve Jobs it's on a wall but he puts steve jobs in a Syrian refugee camp so this is Frances infamous I'm not even I really apologize if I mispronounce this I don't know if it's kelis kelis refugee camp colace I think the future champions called Calais but and he painted a picture and actually you all can call us and correct us but Banksy painted a picture of Steve Jobs standing with an original mac in one hand and a sack over his shoulder with the caption the son of a migrant from Syria because Steve Jobs his father was Syrian who was a migrant who came to the US that's right and so it's it's just kind of clever right just Banksy making us a man he's holding a mac in one hand he has kind of like a sack over over the other but it's in the actual camp this genius Banksy is a genius you know power it the power of art right that's that's all I'm saying I mean we just you know in America we have all these crazy politicians saying let's ban ban Muslim let's ban the Syrian refugees and here we are one of the most influential people in the world is from in the exact place we're trying to ban people from yeah yeah real real smart guys yeah so you you guys can check that out and just see what I just wanted to bring it up I thought it was a cool message and something that's just you know just worth pondering as we say there's a great there's a great documentary on HBO about Banksy to I recommend highly recommend it's fantastic did you also see the UM oh man what is it called off the top of my head not trick store but there's a movie documentary where someone created basically because at the time this kind of modern street art was becoming so popular was like when Banksy was really more advertised as a mainstream you know thing and someone created a fake faints Banksy ish Banksy like art exhibit in LA and people like thousands of people wrapped around blocks to go see this art exhibit from an artist they never knew they'd never heard of but it was because he was kind of like a an upcoming street artist and the whole joke is that banksy was the one who actually did the whole thing to trick people to see if they would fall for this whole like the phenomena of Street pop culture art oh really now I haven't checked that one out it's what do you know what it's called you remember it is it called not exit through the front door I what is it I bet you someone knows this I cannot I can't remember for laughing but you know let's go to the let's get the calls and I'm gonna try and find that movie while we do that okay okay cool so we had a bunch of we had a lot of phone calls this week which is totally awesome we had to narrow down to five four times I got mob on it I felt I don't have on it okay here's the number one call here we go hey Brian Josh from Ohio was just wondering if Apple does go ahead and remove the headphone jack from the iphone what do you think of the idea that they'll pair a charging port for the rumored earpods along with the new iPhone because that's something that what they would do thanks thanks for calling man um I could see them I could see them doing that I just don't like the idea of charging headphones yes like there's a point where you know I just want a quick grab plug them in or okay let's say if they are chargeable I still want to just grab them and use them instantly without ever having to worry about their battery power yeah and you know if if you have to plug him into the Lightning port you're actually gonna drain the battery of your phone as well if they're not fully charged that's true that's a that's another issue um but you know they they could go that way maybe maybe they pull a fast one on us and they put two lightning ports on it and once for charging ones for headphones and what was it was this one kid with yeah right I could live with that and was the kid the guy who said that we rolled above was it about the headphone jack issue yeah so is he weird you know me last week me and Brian were kind of upset about this headphone thing because basically not not because of you know just changes coming to the iphone but because it's gonna cost us more money and also because we're gonna have to charge the headphones like we're talking about right now but someone said these older guys they call this older guys in the cob saying these older guys don't understand innovation mobloc I do I'm a big fan of innovation I you know I would love to have the her headphones I've talked about many times but yeah my main concern is just it's gonna cost more money you know we're gonna have to pay more money we're gonna have to charge more use more energy so yeah that's that's my main gripe but it just doesn't seem as convenient quite honestly to me yeah yeah it doesn't seem convenient like trust me uh we're not for innovation we're doing a show about apple buddy I if we were doing us like maybe I don't know like an analog tell analog TV enthusiast collector show then then you could tell us we had about innovations yes like we yeah we were like artifact collectors then then then your point would be taken very well you know one thing about the headphone jack or that the lightning bolt headphone output thing that we were talking about last week and you were saying it would put out audio at like 48 kilohertz something yeah yeah I'm wondering that's gonna sound really good but is it gonna is it like a lot of the files that we listened to on our phone or lower bit rates than the 48 so its gonna do it's not it can't upscale anything so I just I'm trying to still wrap that around my head it's not gonna like upscale the audio for you but most likely not yeah I just I just I'm trying to think of how that's gonna work but anyway yeah just something I was thinking about I mean it's something that we could talk about all day the premise to me is though if the motivation is to remove the headphone jack just to make the phone thinner that's what's dumb because you lose battery power life which is probably the most important thing if you can give me double the battery life and you make it thinner and remove the headphone jack I probably wouldn't care as much yeah and I like the really odd having two lightning bolts two on the bottom would be cool to light means give me two lightning bolts please and I'd and I don't want to buy an iPhone smart battery case no oh no holy crap okay next call do you really think um someone who would be using the iPad pro would really be editing 4k video because i feel like if someone's gonna be editing 4k video with their 4k camera or whatever or therefore k iphone or whatevs um when is they be using like an mac like seriously but um love your show I I love his tone like seriously I think you make a great point but think of it this way all these tech tools that we have with us what if you're someone who's a videographer and you're shooting something in let's say Antarctica like polar bears and how about like the ice caps melting in or some sort of nature environment where you don't have access to much stuff you shoot some video content you want to edit the video quickly on the spot you dont have space for a desktop like the actual ipad or even a laptop but the actual ipad does have the power to actually do that and it is more of a matter of the software being a true pro version of software being available but like i've edited videos and posted them on my phone so you know if it happens to be 4k whether it's even just someone standing on a street talking the fact is that being able to or edit any kind of video on any devices is really what we should all strive for so I think that it has a bunch of applications to use it's just that it's just not there yet and it should be there so that's what my thoughts on that yeah it also argue that today you know we're editing everything in Instagram and yeah divine so we're editing tons of video using really cheesy apps so I don't I don't really think it matters you know I don't think it matters unless you're doing like really Pro high level stuff you probably gonna want to wanted like a big computer but I don't think it really matters anymore like I don't think they're gonna be editing the next x-men apocalypse movie on an iPad anytime no no so fellows this is luis calling from Charlotte North Carolina again and I just want to go ahead and talk to you guys about this all of these headphones the e l eight titanium headphones they're coming out now with that lightning cable and it seems like what you guys talked about last time on Apple getting rid of that a head jack headphone jack seems like it's coming to reality these people dalat of money on this technology or develop this cable system now to incorporate it with lightning and seems like that might be the way that Apple is going to be heading to what are your thoughts on that I know you guys were kind of upset about that I'm upset about it I think it'll be disastrous because it's just feeding more to the Machine more money more devices more adapters so anyways love your show thanks a lot I don't want any more adapters is this guy one of those old people he's one of those old guys one of those old guys no I you know what they Phillips has a few actual lightning compatible headphones there's very few on the market but like you said there are some manufacturers that are making them is it the direction they're going it looks that way I Apple put in this in they're made for I programmer made for idevices program they put in the specifications for people to start building headphones with lightning compatibility and it's just up to manufacturers to do it so if app start quite honestly because Apple dominates a lot of kind of the action of how accessories are made and blah blah blah look at when Apple just changes the form factor of a phone and they do this on purpose so they can not only make more money but accessory makers like that because they can make more money to even if it's a pain in the ass for them to be like wait we just made a case for this phone a year ago it kind of keeps them on their toes so it's this has this trickle effect and if Apple does really push out a phone that has a lightning cable connections solely for headphones it's going to have a trickle effect they yield that power and it has a pretty quickly to everyone Adele yeah Barry I mean once once the headphone manufacturers find out that indeed Apple is going to do this if they do again if they do you'll you'll start seeing leaks from headphone company sit like oh this company is working on a lightning headphone this one is too blah blah blah because it's just so much harder for them to keep it under wraps oh I do think this is where they're going and they're hoping to go and we'll just have to see how it all plays out but thanks for the call I like that one that might be a big thing next to your lightning headphones mmm mmm mmm okay next question hello guys my name is Colin and I'm from British Columbia Canada and I have a question regarding about the 13 and 15 inch macbook airs as are supposedly supposed to come out next year do you guys know if it will have a Retina display or not and because i personally would love to see the macbook air finally get that beautiful edge to edge glass screen at the other macbooks have as well as the design characteristics of the new 12 inch macbook that would be a winner for me it would be also a winner for me as well yeah I think that look if they're doing like you said merging the best of both worlds this new form factor that they're doing if it's a macbook air the fact that a retina already exists with a machine that is thinner I've got to imagine it's almost a no-brainer that will see a Retina display in these next 13 and 15 inch it's designs it's been long and so I would be shocked quite honestly if they don't just because retina displays now have been out for at least man maybe even three years maybe even three years now yeah so putting it in a macbook air form factor isn't even as thin as this ultra thin design so they should be able to do it by now quite honestly so we'll just wait and see how that how that shakes out cool all right last call okay hello this is dominick from Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada I have a simple question I heard you guys room rain about the fact that there's a potential of a 15-inch macbook air we have no specs or anything like that I know about but do you think it's worth holding out for since I'm still contemplating between gain the 15-inch macbook pro or potentially this new 15-inch macbook air do you have any guesses or what you think like what's your opinion on this who do you think it would be for thanks love to hear about it love the show take care of by all right as a loon Escritt ludicrous would say dun dun dunna dun hold out done hold out what's so stupid I would okay here's here's my take on this I would totally hold out not even just for the screen itself but sky lake which is the next generation of processor which is gonna be faster and even more energy-efficient will give you more battery life out of your laptop that's the skylake processors the number one reason that if anyone is looking in the market for a laptop right now you should wait uh we I want to give props cuz mike from maryland also called kind of about this same thing and so i wanted to show him some love he's like he's like oh yeah they heard my call right now but you know that's the biggest thing wait for Sky lake you'll also get arguably a Retina display and that's gonna be worth it enough quite honestly uh that's you know form factor may change and that'll that'll be another advantage so I think right now there is no reason to buy one right now unless your computer just broke and you're desperate if you can wait it out even wait it out till May June of next year because they may not come in March they probably will announce these around WWDC that is typically when they've done some of these uh laptop announcements but if you can wait that long wait it out rust me just wait it out so hold out hold out all right man that's it for calls I think we're all we're all we on her I think we're all set yeah saweet the weekend begin the weekend I'll right everybody I'm just a reminder if you guys want to be a part of the show call us at one eight hundred 61 62 63 eight that's gonna wrap it up for apple byte extra crunchy we want to hear your bad apples we want to hear your good apples as well we got we need to balance this out right I guess we should yeah right def what's a good Apple are you gonna give Apple a good Apple for that smart battery case I'm gonna give them a good Apple for the update i got yesterday thank you out okay yeah yeah I like that I like that okay we left on a high note all right everybody I'm Brian Tom Beecham tell the good people good bye see you guys thanks for watching cut you next week peace