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Apple elbows its way into Hollywood (The 3:59, Ep. 268)

2017-08-16
and good morning on Wednesday August 16th it's episode 268 of the 359 podcast my name is BVG and we got a full house today in the house we've got alfred hang roger chang and there occurs back hey thanks everybody for joining it is wednesday my dudes and hello to periscope we're back on periscope a periscope what up why aren't we I'm your cat stop stop all right it's been Rubens nudes sake like that's yeah it's Ben's buddy I'm sticking up for him I know all right so what are we talking about Apple making a well reportedly making a big investment into Hollywood Google helping you with your allergies with this pollen detector which actual rate could need I need I don't have allergies but yes you're lucky man and lastly we'll be talking about our own colleagues Terry Collins profile on the Kapoor Center for social impact and how they're making it easier for women and underrepresented minorities start their own businesses so you actually got to meet them yeah towards themselves so you'll be able to share some some insight there so as always if you have any questions leave them in the comment section and we'll get to them in three minutes and 59 seconds here we go in three two welcome to the fusion I'm Roger Chang I'm out for dang and with this the special guest Derek Carr hello how you doing good thanks so no Apple is getting serious about Hollywood the companies are poorly set to spend 1 billion dollars over the next year to fund new shows they could definitely use the help because right now all we've got is carpool karaoke and planted the apps those are all fantastic shows by the way great will.i.am doesn't make a fool of himself on the show and the apps aren't terrible but you know that said that looked bad maybe their early starts are a little bit awkward but they they did hire some TV execs from Sony and you know billion dollars that's that's a lot of money to throw out a couple good shows right I mean Netflix's budget is like seven billion dollars that said they also they also create tons of shows right they they seemingly have a canoe show every week it's almost too many shows yeah I feel like they need to stagger them out a little bit I mean if they follow the formula though and create like original serialized content then maybe you know Apple will have a hit on its hands but right now what they're doing is like it's just gonna be a bunch of reality show it's rude yeah no sense look I think I'm looking at it from their perspective it's probably this was them tipping they're dipping their toes in the water these shows are probably not that expensive produce but a billion dollars I mean that's like Game of Thrones money right do you think that it'll be available off of Apple TV though or do you think it'll be an Apple TV exclusive uh well I don't know it's a question there's some of the original stuff I imagine they're gonna try to keep exclusive right I feel like if they spend all this money on it though and they only make it available on Apple TV that it's really not gonna go anywhere that's true you're gonna drink the whole nature of what these shows on Netflix like did you watch this and right yes because I have Netflix because it only cost me $10 a month well he does not have well without the music oh okay so you actually watch these shows through Apple music so they do have I forget how many subscribers now I mean in the millions but they could theoretically license the show's over Cesar yeah so I mean I think that's how Netflix does it for some of their stuff I mixed up Google writing Pollan yeah so if you have allergies this tool seems like it's gonna be really useful for you where when you look up a location on Google you know it'll tell you the weather forecast there but now they're adding a new feature that basically tells you what the pollen forecast is gonna be like - okay so you know if you see that there's a lot of pollen in the area and you know that you have allergies either get your medicine out or just don't go there ya know I'm someone who suffers from allergies and high pollen counts that's I never thought to really Google it so it's kinda nice that they're just gonna package it all into a single search yeah Google has been doing that for a lot of things when you just like just like small things to add on so they'll tell you if I look up like a restaurant it'll tell me how many people are there at the moment or like how like what times it gets the most packed what times is the most empty and that's not even looking that up like specifically that's just me looking up the location of it so they've been adding all these small things pollens definitely like one that I didn't really consider because I don't really have allergies right yeah totally useful though alright lastly Terry Collins has a nice profile of Kapoor Center for social impact and keyboard capital the venture capital fund that makes it easier for women and underrepresented people of color to start new businesses Jerry you've actually met with the Kapoor's right I went to one of their events where they were it was a camp where they had young young adults learning how to code all from Oakland they're based in Oakland ok and it was really cool I must say they it was the real deal it wasn't just some you know smoke and mirrors type of stuff they they're really doing what they say they're doing and trying to create a pipeline I mean it seems really helpful just based on the sheer statistics of how little minorities and women there are as far as like successful entrepreneurs right and like VC is like the biggest roadblock to that right there are like clear stats a show they even like women who do obtain funding generally obtain less funding than apart so it's kind of yeah it's nice to see that there is a fund that's actually actively looking to diversify the perspective yeah they're yeah they're you know they're really interesting investment group they also were the first investors to criticize uber their investors in uber and they were the first ones when all the everything in the fan right and they were the first ones to criticize uber for that toxic shareholders uber they are yeah they're one of the early investors oh wow yeah they have some big profile companies in their portfolio but and at the same time they're trying to build this pipeline for women and minorities no it's great yeah alright for those stories and more chicks on SEANET Roger Tsien I'm out for name I'm Derek ER thanks listening Roger what kind of allergies do you have a myriad of allergies a myriad I'm allergic to our office AC system I am allergic to pollen allergic to grass grass allergic to certain kinds of fruit tomatoes watermelon Wow so would you eat everything go somewhere say you're you look up a place and then you see the pollen report would you be like wow let's cancel that trip oh yeah I think that's why would you I probably take allergy meds although it usually takes a few hours for that stuff to kick in if it was like a long road trip it was planned out yeah and like I did a google search and upon me was high I wouldn't cancel the trip Oh screw this what if it was like going to the park for that yeah I probably avoid it I'd probably go somewhere else yeah but I feel like like you don't need a forecast to know how much pollen is gonna be at the park well another air like another town over I feel like it's like an umbrella moment kind of thing though where you know like when you when you look at the weather for the day like you just want to know like what the temperature is but then a turn or is like oh it's raining and then you're planning so like if you were like planning a picnic you would probably cancel it like when you're seeing that it's gonna rain today right I feel like the pollen kind of indicators kind of the same thing whereas like oh there's gonna be like a bunch of pollen there I don't know if I wanna go I mean I feel like it's like the same like rain thing yeah yeah yeah definitely I mean again like if it was like a big trip planned a night I did a Google search it's like pollen counts hi I wouldn't cancel for it like I would probably take Claridon and just relocate well it's like yeah so should we speculate on what series that apples going to bring to the table here because Danny Green's got a great prediction ooh what is Danny Green's prediction hey what's up Danny so Siri and the rock might have a series Oh God well that would be their entire billion dollar budget yeah on the rock because the rock he's worth it damn it because he's magnificent although that commercial is terrible it's not even see it what happened it's Dwayne Johnson going about his day and using Siri yeah help him out that's it yeah and he's an outer space and he says here he'd take a cell and it does it which by now wouldn't work realistically because I mean it's not like he can talk in the vacuum of space yeah how can Siri make noises when there's nobody can hear you in space even if you are Siri alright mr. wizard moving on yeah wait what other shows are we going to see well that's thing we don't know yet this is so let's speculate aha I mean obviously nothing branded right like they couldn't take a game of Thrones and pour it over to Apple but it'd have to be like imagine they'd want to do something ambitious like that right like you know Netflix well into West worlds like they're all robots now and they fight you in a flesh throne that sounds pretty it's like the reverse cuz it's not like the Iron Throne because they're all made of iron oh these are in this series or a vein or something so wait do you don't think any more reality TV shows and I hope not I easily think they're gonna do it it's easy I think if they wanted like steam the report said that you know this is the the a billion dollars is enough to fund 10 shows or as many as 10 shows so that's if you just do the math 100 million dollars per show that's way more than you need for a reality show well I am has a dance contest it's basically a ripoff of So You Think You Can Dance but it's with the video game just dance if they were just making reality shows with a billion dollars they could make like a hundred of these shows right yeah like 100 a billion dollars is enough to get you like house of card caliber of shows right maybe one or two like like I forget how much Game of Thrones cause I mean Game of Thrones crazy yes I mean that that shows extra expensive house of cards isn't that why West No was it what what show just got canceled the one from the Wachowskis the matrix no there was was it a show on Netflix help me out Chad yes that's the overhead yes yeah yeah but I mean apples got money coming out their ears have apples set to make 45 to 46 billion dollars in revenue just next quarter alone so a billion dollars is like nothing that's so what you're saying is Asian investment so we could get higher quality programming yeah Gweneth Paltrow is health show no you know the GUP experience I thought oh my god I like that so we've got the - back in the chat he says what do people think of the fact that we can no longer get entertainment content from one place maybe I'm nostalgic for the old days of everything being somewhere on TV and I see your point but even that wasn't really the case because remember you had different tiers of cable packages oh no or you could just had the antenna than you guys I would say he brings up a good point because we've been we've been pushing and advocating for all the cart all the cart distribution model for channels right paying for you to content you do want and now we kind of have that it's like way more expensive than actually a traditional cable because we've got Netflix Hulu YouTube that's what I was saying something it's kind of CBS reap reap what we sow where he begged for the ala carte and they're like okay but on our terms and now you're well it can be if you pile it up but I do Netflix Hulu Amazon and that like 60 bucks isn't it yeah so there's lots of reasons to stick with that I don't even use the video that much but between Netflix Hulu that's about 16 17 bucks a month that's why Amazon's like the only one that I have because it comes as part of a package kind of thing if you asked for you know Amazon ala carte I don't know how many people would be on Amazon like they do offer it actually no I I'm the same way with Amazon like I I cannot live without my Prime subscription like the video stuff you know if they also killed it tomorrow thing that's good about Amazon I find is that if you want to watch a movie they have almost every movie and you can rent them for right the rental thing built in is a nice price like jumping back and forth between Netflix to iTunes to whatever we're just waiting for what's new on Netflix yeah which tends to not pay off these days I think going back to Dodgers point though like they're pretty much all like the same I mean obviously Amazon and Netflix have their own exclusives and if you want it then you can subscribe to their services but I enjoy having like all these different platforms where I can pick what I want I kind of look at it they're not all the same though like you've got these kind of huge platforms like Netflix and Amazon but then now you've got a carving out of different channels right I've got CBS for HBO Showtime yeah which full-disclosure CBS and Showtime a part of CBS which is our parent company but now you've got Disney considering their own breakaway it's not even considering it's happening they're doing it but there are also other side channels we constantly forget like crackle and ethics right yes comedians and cracks that secretly show crackle worth watching is false The Critic radio well I have the DVDs of news radio so I watched that you and I have had this conversation but somebody that I was like I was following some thread on Twitter where they were making a point after Disney was all you know we're gonna make our own streaming service with blackjack and yeah but basically it was like what it's a future of a reference but the idea I got it the idea was you know if you do this you're only gonna drive people back to piracy because you're once again making it hard for people to get all the content that they want I mean would it be better though if every network just did their own thing do we really want to go down that route were you paying like a buck for this channel a buck for the channel a buck I mean oh I feel like it'd be fair if it were I mean that's where we're heading I'm looking out like the music industry as like a good case study of it where like you look at how like jay-z was going you know had tidal and then he had all these exclusives on title and then Kanye was when he put his album to the life of Pablo out on title and not on Spotify it was the most pirated album like that year you know just becomes one of those things where if you're gonna make it hard for me to get this even though I already pay for something else that I should be able to get this on I'm just gonna buy I wonder what the kind of cost benefit or the of that is like if for Disney for example I can add if they load up their channel with lots of cartoons all their movies whatever yeah parents are gonna like line up to kids there's Netflix doesn't like Netflix do a kid's thing - no no but yes there's a difference that kid is into Disney stuff yeah what are you gonna do you can't go to youtube for that's high rated yeah they're discounting heroness don't have time to pirate stuff really last time I checked you apparently pirating is time consuming it's I guess I don't know yeah I don't pirate so I know the mantra I live by is giving excuse to pay for it if you make me jump through too many hoops it's too much of a pain in the butt then I know other ways and I'm not like a threat no no but I do feel like we are kind of getting show getting to that point though because I feel like as a consumer we had a tolerance for a couple of these like that early guys would come out there with own services like all right I'll pay an extra $10 but though if you've got like 15 channels with their own services then you're like well this is this is terrible yeah it would be kind of a pain in the butt imagine soggy brings up a good point he's asking well these shows actually draw people into Apple music is that going to be the key house of cards help draw some people in the Netflix and they outbid HBO for that show yeah there are they just going to self-serve that pre-existing installed Loyalists sheeple audience or are they gonna actually draw people in with this I mean I was like I can't really speak for like what their strategy is but I mean the idea is they have a large enough basis of paying subscribers now that like they could technically generate enough buzz from one other shows that it might cause people to sign up for the service yeah but it's different because they're the ones funding it themselves they got their like large base from like Apple music like wow off the music but you know that was you know they because they had these exclusives where chance the rapper's album was exclusively on it for like a few days before they put like I think they paid him like three million dollars for that Frank ocean's album which was like highly anticipated they paid him like a certain amount of money I don't know how much but for the exclusives of that before went on Spotify or anything else like that I don't think they can do that for TV shows because they're gonna be the ones that have to produce it and put it together and all this stuff and it's another thing though they have full control so they can keep exclusive for as long as maybe it'd be like like just making the the parallel from like music to TV with like Frank Ocean and chance the rapper it'd be like if they got rights to Game of Thrones like ten days before like it released to everybody you don't think that's how they would do it no I'm saying like that's what the parallel would be to build up like their fanbase for TV shows and that's not how they're gonna do it cuz there's no chance I think I may that's why I'm so different for a house of cards I mean that was exclusive to Netflix right yeah you have to be but they release it on DVD as well well no but after the fact but like initially when that when that showed you buzz like that got people interested in the Netflix or but have them hooked into it yeah I guess like I just just wanna know Apple music is 27 million paying subscribers right there is already more than a lot of fun that's a massive instant I thought what are they going to so if you're already in Apple music are you going to get the service do you pay an extra premium premium for the video I'm not sure I think Apple music subscribers now get carpool karaoke do they yeah that'll the apps I believe like I don't get it yeah I understand it but you can watch one more good question from razor 204 a oh excuse me from Josh Buddha do you have to have Apple products to watch these shows or perhaps can you just watch it I'm assuming like on an app that you install a third party pop music Apple music is an Android app to not I write down it for Android I know I have Apple music I'm iPhone I don't write I don't know why would get Apple but you don't use an Apple Avenue but I don't think they would be dumb enough to tether it to hardware no I mean yeah isn't Apple music like a roku channel to or something I believe so yeah yeah we should have had cats come in I know we'll get cats back on soon I think that's about it for today that was really good conversation interesting to see where this is all gonna go but you wanna you want up no thanks thanks again for your comments and questions always appreciate it I feel like anything you saw over here check us out on CNET our podcasts also available on iTunes TuneIn stitcher SoundCloud heed burner and play music and seen it nothing 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