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from the CBS interactive studios in san francisco california it's the apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host Bryan Tom and like that it's episode 48 you know it is Apple by extra crunchy extra munchy all the latest news and additional news and expansion upon thoughts and ideas here bringing it to you with my man Steven beach i'm running the show as usual you got to say hi to everybody uh again the show is all about you this is not all about us all you have to do to make your voice heard voicemail call us a 1-800 61 62 63 eight your name where you're from your comments your questions if you have additional information or a correction cuz yes Omar we need correction we need correction we need help please I'm sure we need your help to this is all of us working together just talk and talk call us at that number and you will be a part of the show we have plenty of voicemails that will play later on today but let's get to the latest news I know every time we talk it's like iphone 7 like iphone 7 again heating up iphone 6 a really we got iphone 6 on success cs6 SE iphone 6 a sec um the latest news coming out and this is from efflux and evan blast again is that pre-orders for the actual iphone and he has confirmed this for the next iphone will start on sep tember the ninth now if you look at how the iphone has released in the past and this hasn't been always the case but in this situation if the pre-orders are the ninth and we talked about it earlier this week or the last episode the actual phone is reportedly expected to come out on sep tember the 16th for retail release September the fifth is Labor Day that's a monday yeah apple better an apple won't my hope not they better not say hey we're gonna do an ounce minh on that monday we know i do be happy but will they will they release the phone the next day on the Tuesday Weld always release stuff on tuesday if you you know follow the trends and how they've been doing in the past my hunch is that the keynote will be on sep tember the sixth which is tuesday thank God so save your money if you want a phone that looks exactly like your current one I'm just messing with you I am messing with you all but that's the latest that we have there from Ewa leaks another little shot we've been talking about the dongle right go no antenna lines a lightning port those are kind of to the core things a better camera sensor but Vietnamese website tint a our team Tay they've been they've been around for years and they always kind of get some interesting least once while they're showcasing off what appears to be the actual lightning to headphone jack adapter and really it looks exactly like you would expect it to look like two inches lightning port on one end my voice is FX that looks like something we're gonna lose I'm of course you can i'm gonna lose this thing and you gonna pay 20 bucks to replace and you'd be like where's my dongle where my dongle at teen take oh my gosh it's so it's tiny and it also looks like it can break easily it's gonna fray apart like every other Apple cable that you have it's gonna fray apart you have to go buy another one after like a year to value-add Beecham value-add um another interesting thing though just about the transition of going from headphones that are physically plugged into bluetooth headphones this is a report by the NPD group just recently has reported that bluetooth headphones for the first time revenue from bluetooth headphones overall has overtaken non bluetooth headphones ahead of the latest iphone lunch and that's an interesting thing because right you sometimes want to get ahead of these trends according to report fifty-four percent of headphone dollar sales and seventeen percent of the unit sales in the united states went to bluetooth headphones so this is the first time they've ever been able to overtake that which i've been what it i use bluetooth I mean are you using bluetooth that your music guy beach i'm not i'm not using bluetooth right but i would i would if i had you know if i had a cool pair that was awesome what about when you worked on human they were great you go to the gym do you use bluetooth headphone never know you don't I don't I hope the regular headphones I always have to put my phone on its side see that's when I I definitely old bluetooth headphones in the gym because you know I gotta make room for the guns for all you that we're watching the video you just you might you might have been poked down the eye by my guys I need some bluetooth headphones though maybe maybe I can help you out there you know I've got some friends I mean youryour about your valuable contributor uh pretty much a non an indispensable element of the show maybe I should do work on that for you i was i was actually like thinking about them today I'm like I cuz I'm tethered to my desk in my computer when you're editing I'm like if I could just get up and walk around and even just sit around in my chair yeah it'd be nice so the trend is there we are moving in that direction I know yes we've always been able to have bluetooth headphones this is nothing new but the fact that Apple is removing a physical Jack and basically saying without our dongle you need to use bluetooth headphones it is aligning with what's happening to consumers in the industry right now an MPD is a legitimate resource that pulls this type of sales information and look at this tartan this chart at the bottom of this blog post top-selling bluetooth headphone brands ranked by dollars beats is number one that's what I use for my work out there you go what is it beats LG be those bose jaybird and then skull candy skull candy skull candy skull candy makes like the fun looking ones i mean they may not be the best idea but they do have like a little flair to them so um that's what's happening in the iphone world but we wanted to before we get to some of the new stuff at least address some of the earnings this past week apple reported their third quarter fiscal earnings which is equivalent to the second quarter in the calendar year and quite honestly the numbers were not very pretty we'll just go over the recap really quickly overall apples revenue dropped fifteen percent okay so from a pure revenue standpoint and this is obviously because of the decline of sales of iphones but there's other areas that were affected Apple posted a forty-two point four billion dollar net quarterly profits re revenue and then if you compare that to last year it was forty nine point six billion okay now let's talk about the actual products iPhones dropped if you compare this to last year's quarter forty point four million versus 40 point five million a year earlier Mac sales down 4.25 million units down from 4.8 last year ipad sales were also down again I think this might be now either like that makes six or 7th quarter where ipad sales have been down falling nine point nine five million from 10.9 so every major product category for Apple was down that's crazy I mean it makes sense the iPad things make sense because I think what's everyone bought an ipad they're like I don't really need this thing other than for entertainment for like just fun things but the other products losing their market share tues that's pretty that's staggering so the other thing is I didn't include this report in here beach and we talked about it on the video show but when you look at where Apple is losing where who is gaining and the clear beneficiary of this has been the Samsung Galaxy s7 phone line or just their phones in general yeah that's like their big rival so if you even look at stats for them we don't have them here at least for our video audience but samsung shipped 77 million phones this past quarter apple shipped forty point four million and then if you talk about just market share of who was buying what samsung nearly doubled app or almost doubled Apple again I think they were at like 22 point four percent market share Apple was somewhere around like eleven percent market share and so at least in this quarter Samsung is just beating them down now during this Ordnung earnings report Tim Cook did mention that he's optimistic about the next iPhone and the next upgrade purely because Apple has such a large install base and if you want to talk about that install base Apple did announced earlier this week after their earnings report that they had sold their one billionth iphone which is incredible 1 billion i swaddled which is why I had this music that we are oh wait that's the wrong music sorry the music that you were hearing me play before the show I had this for the one billionth one billionth iphone cell that's pretty that's astronomical wow it's a mate and think about this this has happened in nine years okay nine-year 99 years Wow I mean just think how many they'll sell when the actual real new iPhone comes out next year I'm like basically telling everyone you probably shouldn't get this upcoming iPhone if you have a six or a 6s and even a 5s you might you might as well wait it out but that is we do want to congratulate Apple that is an impressive feat I just did a little background check of how long it took McDonald's to sell their further one millionth hamburger yeah and so they're officially first restaurant opened in 1940 ok 1963 is when they sold their one billionth hamburgers let's do the math on that 20 23 years three years 23 years and Apple did it in nine and and the burgers are way less exposures sixties a burger was like probably 75 cents fifty cents if that an iphone in night when did it come out in two thousand where we have been where we had no we're about sixteen had mathesar so were too yeah 2007-2010 it was in the iphone the first iphone was what like seven hundred dollars yeah when it first launched and then but remember people were so pissed about it because then they like lowered the price because it's a little high then they gave every everyone who bought it on launch a dollar a gift card I don't be like that oh yeah we're sorry cuz they dropped it I believe they dropped at two hundred bucks and like after people like and then people that bought it like me uh they gave him like a 100 dollar gift gonna be like alright thanks sorry we're our bad but for the record my original iphone which I kept still works it's still freakin works really i sold mine I had to keep the first one though I thought I should have kept my first don't you regret so I not really regret it totally I mean that's it that's a hitch that's it should be in a museum i got my first one the first devices that i have i have the original power mac g4 cube i don't know if you remember that I've seen pictures I've I've never seen amazing uh and then I have an original ipod that still works to this day well and then original iphone i also have the macintosh to se all I used to have like the old-school man together you grew up in line zero yeah Roger on it and that the shuffle putt game the horror is like a haunted house shuffle puck yeah was it was it dark castle or beyond dark Cassie ever marathon went under the stones okay everyone's like what do you guys talking about shut up year old here's a picture of tim cook with the one billionth iphone that he sold right in holding pretty impressive so there you go there's the earnings um and Tim Cook did say that he is optimistic with a new phone coming out and so we'll see how that plays that I mean we I feel like we really know everything about the phone right yeah I mean the last two phones all the rumors that came out were totally true so yes it's yeah we know everything remember for the record I want to let people know remember when Tim Cook said we're doubling down on secrecy when he first took over which means we're gonna hire some like liquid Twitter guys to tweet out doubling down on secrecy we know everything about this phone like more than ever more than ever okay we want to say thank you to our sponsors here we've got to talk 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two more of our show this is probably the most fascinating story that i have seen this week and we wanted to bring it to it in the middle the show just to kind of cover all the iphones up at the top but you would know that we have been talking about the apple TV service here for a long time the rumored TV streaming service and if you rewind to a few episodes i had said we had said that we felt the reason why we haven't seen a TV streaming services because apple must be so hard lined on their demands that has been turning off the studio's because sling TV has their own TV service sony playstation view has their own TV service why in the world has Apple not been able to do this so an article by the wall street journal just drop today talking about how Apple's hard-charging tactics have actually hurt their TV expansion in their plans for a streaming service now just kind of go through historically what has happened and most recently as in 2015 there Apple is really try to make this work on their own terms but a recent meeting in 2015 between Apple and Disney Apple wanted to demand basically that they freeze the monthly rate per viewer that is paid right so that they could get Disney's channels now TV channels usually get an annual rate increase and rely on them to fuel growth but Apple wanted to freeze them and this is what their message was to Disney and Disney like um no we're not going to do that that's not how our industry works and Apple has continued to take this position of we are Apple so then the wall street journal we know we've heard bits and pieces of this through the past few years they went on and kind of really tried to break down Apple's I guess you could call it hubris over the past years starting back as far as 2009 of how Apple has really negotiated this i'm not going to dig in super but i want to give you just this idea or the sense of where Apple is screwing this up and it really comes down to really again they're cockiness and thinking that we're Apple so in 2009 when they first were kind of approaching this idea and thought apple was offering higher fees than the paid for TV providers right these cable service providers but they only wanted certain channels they only wanted like 20 to 25 channels and they're the people that are putting their content are like well for example let's say a company like Disney they don't own just ABC and the Disney Channel they have disney XD they have disney animated be kids for different just in Seattle then there's ABC family like they want all of those on the service apples like no no we only want 25 channels everyone's like sorry we don't want to play and this is very early remember this is 2009 yeah okay then let's fast forward to 2011 and we had heard rumors about Apple working with time warner and a deal falling through and them saying okay we're going to wait on this what had happened there is apple and Time Warner we're working on a TV a joint TV service that would be on time warner boxes okay the big hiccup was that Apple wanted people to sign up using their Apple IDs they wanted Time Warner to handle all the billing and subscriptions so which is like basically like hey into your structure yeah do the infrastructure BR do the clerical stuff but we're gonna have the customers use their Apple IDs to sign in also we aren't going to necessarily give you all the data about those customers because that is private to which is so important right every industry analytics or everything to learn how they do this in addition to this Apple pitch a similar deal to comcast these cable operators were like will how is this how's the channel selection going to work how is this and in the article let me see if I can find it in quote that in the article according to here and people who are privy to these meetings and Apple official reply that the software would be better than anything you've ever had so they even asked them something like could you maybe sketch this out on a napkin so that we could at least see what this might look like and they didn't they had no answers for that really so you're like okay you can't even tell us how how innovative this menu will work it's like no okay fine that's cool that's cool now we're catching up to speed now so this is what 2009-2011 2013 now okay Eddy Cue comes to a meeting with Time Warner CEO and this is according to people inside this meeting time warner owns HBO TNT CNN TBS things like that and according the article Apple's mr. Q arrived 10 minutes late and was wearing jeans tennis shoes with no socks and a Hawaiian shirt says a person familiar with the meeting the other executives were wearing suits so that it that in itself kind of is like Oh Eddy Cue kind of like trying to Swagger in thinking he's like the man like we're gonna do things my way but that's not how it went they say in the article Apple wanted fool on demand seasons of hit shows and rights to their cloud-based DVR that would automatically store the top programs and allow ad-skipping on newly aired shows so like this is kind of so many red flags this is how they were to start and this is Apple coming and basically saying hey this is how we want to do TV you guys don't know what you're doing and the TV guys are like do you have any idea how we do this like are you really that cocky and so I think that when you hear these situations of how Apple just doesn't get in the TV industry to try and build their own TV service it makes sense it backs up what you and I have been talking about like it has two three but exactly when talking about we're just like apples going into these meetings saying we're Apple you know trust us we're going to make everything great it's just not working and if and if they started this negotiations in 2009 if they would have nailed down any sort of negotiation at that time they would be way ahead of everybody right now because everyone else kind of came on slow to streaming all their content online to you know like Comcast a lot of these companies just slowly have been ramping up their online content and if Apple would have nailed that in 2009 we'd be much different place now yeah and it speaks to look I think they they Apple learned from itunes they this is at a point in time remember when the music recording industry was desperate for something you know they weren't making money on CD sales right people were ripping non-stop there wasn't an easy did not pressure I come out although everyone's right Apple was the savior for them but the TV industry totally different they don't need a Savior they're doing just fine and Apple thinks that you know we use this throw this word around the disruptor but look at what TV networks are doing now all they're doing is like you know what forget you Apple people are paying for our cable service we're just going to build apps that give them the ability to access that same information our same content we're making the money thanks Apple but no thanks yeah I mean every every major television studio has their own app now that you can login through if you have a cable subscription you just log into that and then you're watching whatever you know watching the PGA Championship on my phone on TNT it's all good it's all good and so where does this leave Apple now we even talked I think even as recent as like last week we said I said I've got a feeling that because they aren't able to make a deal now that so many channels and networks are just putting they're making an app to be able to watch their content apples kind of content with that right now and because of the way that they're using Syria on the apple TV you're starting to be able just cut they said it you know in tivos you'll just be able to call up say play vh1 you know and show me vh1 in that the channel open and launch and then you'll be able to i mean that's coppergate through that content which is cool of that but they do not have a TV streaming service anywhere in sight and i just think that it's very very telling of apples thinking than just their philosophy of like they still think that their number one and if you look around like blue jeans and hawaiian shirt that's no sauce it's a very Silicon Valley move for no socks for the record no socks um and I think I can't find the quote right here but in the in the article they quoted oh here we go so mr. Q has basically referred to the to TV industry as overly complicated talks and as quote is time is on my side yeah that's like okay whatever buddy but here's the difference also any Q is not Steve Jobs no no not at all and for anyone to think for Apple internally to think that they are the same Apple with that without Steve Jobs has been probably one of the biggest mistakes brand continue to me they have brand cachet but that's that's about it yeah and it's I mean that brand cachet is is changing its dwindling it's it's a it's a different beast now so we'll see how that all plays out but again huge fail if Apple is unable to launch a TV streaming service by now and I can't remember the numbers because we had brought it up but I know that the PlayStation view is up to this point is the most successful TV streaming service I think they had over I don't want to go too far but I swear was around 250 300 thousand paying subscribers already yeah you know service is hearing about that a lot lately it up you while you talking about people are like clamoring for some update of that product yeah so um we will see what happens okay I jumped ahead guys and gals 100,000 subscribers see I don't want to get likes people like why 300,000 so they have said to surpass 100,000 subscribers right now for the PlayStation view service which which is really fun okay in other news other news that I'm personally excited about a Apple watch 20 Apple watch to report get ready all is said to include a thinner one glass solution display why does this matter right now this one glass solution technol eliminates the fact that it is layers of glass from the traditional display right now it features two pieces of glass and so they're replacing one layer with a thinner material and allowing it to be a lower profile they didn't say if the form factor of the actual apple watch would change from a standpoint of look they are there's no way in hell that they're going to change these uh the wristband sizing as they do I will kill I will literally go over and strangle down at the next Apple Store and valine I'm just gonna walk up and squeezed his neck I will not less glass make a little lighter too yeah yeah it'll make a slightly lighter um but that is the report according to digit times and you know we're expecting to still see the Apple watch by the end of this year I'm kind of curious that we might see it at this sep tember keynote honestly I don't know if they really have to do a brand-new keynote like the last the last king yet they did they talked a lot about the Apple watch they did a dedicated one just for the Apple watch basically uh and watch oz trace is fiyah like I love it it's going to change how you feel about the Apple watch guaranteed uh just to also follow up with some more news as we kind of round things out here with the Apple car this is the latest and greatest we told you that Bob Bob Mansfield who was the senior VP of hardware engineering was recently hired to take over the project and now it looks like Apple is moving in a different direction this is a report according to Bloomberg where Apple has hired blackberry talent they've actually hired the former CEO of qnx and if you don't remember qnx that is BlackBerry's mobile operating system his name is Dan dodge okay so Apple has brought him on to the team as well to report to Bob Mansfield and the actual project has now shifted where the priority isn't necessarily the car the initiative is now to prioritize development of an autonomous driving system so uh so a driverless list system is taking priority over actually designing the physical car and the look at Yale and the hope is that this will not only help accelerate just may be there their focus but in addition to that they could if this whole car idea doesn't really pan out for them they could technically license this system or partner with other car manufacturers that say hey we have a design that we want to partner with you to create this car based on your platform so it's kind of it's a little strategic as well yeah it's kind of like the robot operating system race right now you know I mean you know about that like no no tell me is a lot of companies developing robots and they're all in a race to develop the operating system that everyone will use for said robot you know like they all want to be the iOS of robots so it's kind of interesting but but hiring them a blackberry executive does that have to do with security because I know blackberries you know very famous for being like the most secure phone do you think it has to do cuz like um I know there's a lot of issues with hacking car software right now so maybe that has some its it i mean i think it's an interesting point I think it's a no one has really said what dan dodges pure roll is right now um but I think it is a really smart idea to just give them the options to decide if they want to maybe acquire someone to become their actual car chassis or not right or if they want to partner with someone instead of actually building the car itself it's a it's definitely a different approach because everyone else is like we are just building everything from the ground up and Apple is behind let's not let's not forget that it's leaning more towards we've talked about it before but it's leaning more towards where it's going to be a service as opposed to a car yeah yeah I mean they can sell this self-driving software or whatever Hardware they're gonna build and put it in other cars put in any car maybe just a couple other details up from this article we know that demand for the iphone is significantly just really dropped off as of late oh we will let the numbers bear out what happens with the latest release and then obviously the tenth anniversary you know what we call it Beachum the iphone future so with this demand going down they need a new revenue stream as well so even if this is a potential revenue stream that comes out in 2021 which is what the rumored push out date is it's important and that's also why to me that TV streaming service is so important Apple another revenue stream yeah that lot they haven't been able to figure out hmm it's come on come on Apple I don't know I like this render of a steering wheel Apple look do us or cheese you could accomplish that same thing by taking the sticker from your freaking iphone and put it on the center of your steering wheel looks cheesy um another a lot of buttons there too for like your phone you know play buttons and stuff there should be all that others I'm gonna well we just have a couple more car I guess car-related driving wheeling related stories um Apple is partnering hold on one second I'm sorry this is this is not we're here we go Apple is partnered with park Oh pedia to bring in depth parking data to Apple maps so this is a partnership between the two companies iOS users will be able to visit use Apple maps and discover more than 40 million parking spots in 75 countries across North America Europe Asia and Latin America that's pretty cool so you know there they have data like where these lots are um really what payment types they accept number of space there's obviously specific parking lots it's not like they're gonna have the data on every single parking lot right yeah its parking lots that have partnered and have made this data available because they're trying to make money yeah and they're working with Apple to provide that data so it's very I think it's a cool feature to have especially in places like San Francisco where parking is so expensive I was just gonna say looking at this graphic here there's no there's no mention of how much the parking space is that's something i want to know because our in san francisco you can find this parking space for like thirty dollars a day it's ridiculous even more oh yeah even yeah even for and when there's like giants games yeah oh they jack that up it's like 40 bucks for the night you better get in in the morning when it's like 20 yeah like that that's a deal there um and then finally this is a the story is kind of like depressing to me but you know we know apples trying to get in the content game but Apple has decided to their kind of the surprise buyer of the unscripted TV series based on carpool karaoke so you know that segment of James Corden yeah it's like one of them the late late show it's I mean it's very popular standing easy to package and become a viral video you're taking celebrities musicians singing awesome songs with James Corden well this series is going to be exclusive according to the report to Apple music this will not encourage me to watch to buy Apple means I'm dead serious it's a TV show it's like you know five minute video like a mini segment yeah video set video segments that will involve celebrities musicians but will also not involve James Corden who kind of makes the segment cool okay so they got dr. dre working on a TV show they got biopic TV on planet of the apps landed the apps and then who what was the other one wasn't there will IM thing how will I am his planet of the app so that was like a reality a reality contest show and then they got carpool karaoke but not the star of carpool carry no okay not at all so Apple is licensed 16 episodes of the show they'll be executive produced by cordon and the Late Late Show so they're they're requiring this through CBS but he will not be involved in it as well so it's just like look this is like when you see something like on the TV or a movie and then you just make your own version to put up on YouTube and it's just not as good yeah Apple's doing that but they're paying lots of money for it lots of money I'm sure like is there could it don't you think quite honestly we have seen carpool karaoke since the advent of time like these have existed before carpool karaoke was a segment on TV show it's popular cuz everyone doesn't on there a lot time yeah I mean and so all I'm saying is we've seen videos of this before James Corden made it popular with celebrities and is it really his idea when he really is like we talked about it actually recently on howard stern show and said it was just a very organic things like why don't we get someone in a car i think the first one was Mariah Carey he's like let's get her to just drive around and have her singer hits you know yeah and then it like did like I'm million views on YouTube it was really YouTube that set this show set the seg made the segment popular it's not CBS or production or anything having to do with that it's like an organic thing to happen on YouTube and then they're like oh well this kind of works now we got to start doing it all the time and now apples like picking up on that from it just sounds like so weird to me I'm sorry it's it's just the whole a key thing where something that kind of comes from innocent good intentions yeah then it just completely sucked up by corporate yeah and then it's not and then it's not even what it used to be like if it was cordon and if it's the same thing then that you would be more I would be more I wouldn't I still want to pay for an apple music subscription button Ocalan it would definitely be a bonus if you are a subscriber now that it's like wait it's carpool karaoke without cordon and come on are these are not gonna be a less artists these are gonna be like Wilson Phillips minus Willis will sit yeah it's gonna be like that yeah like up-and-comers that you never heard of four who like the record labels trying to get them exposure oh you going out anyway yeah just take off it's just that takes the charm out of it and it whoever they pick as a host it's just not gonna be as good but I do it not just we should do our own seen that version you can carpool karaoke but now everything is a copy on again by it it will just buy yeah this concept you know we'll do our own for the Apple why this existed before even coordinated to carpool karaoke yeah so um pulsing apples getting in the content game but i will say their most original idea is the planet of the apps show although it sounds funny um it does have an interesting twist on the whole competition idea yeah it does and we have exclusive footage from that if you watch like two episodes ago I showed someone show yes yes we do we do okay um should we go check out our voicemails today yeah let's check out her voice awesome okay hang out give me one second I won't let you get a while i'll let you get the other warm right now okay here is Michael let me stop this music that's been playing the whole show and I don't even know was playing Michael from New Jersey here we go hey guys it's michael from New Jersey I love the show I just wanted to add something just the crew just like ed to the rumors that are going around about the removal of the touch ID home button and they might replace with a haptic feedback is it your for example you put a finger on it that is not registered with touch ID you'll feel a haptic feedback through the so it's very very possible that there's right like magic takara wherever the rumors are that they will remove the home button for the present I just want to let you guys know thanks for the show hi that's what I like that I like that knowledge yeah it was just a little bit of tidbit yeah so it's gonna like poke you if you're not if you're not registering the phone each other this something will poke you in the finger it'll be like more of a buzz that is kind of more a rejection but like don't touch me it'd be like back back back that's weird i'm like that some haptic response like that okay we got Matthew from Michigan checking in Michigan hello my name is matthew i am from michigan and I'd like to say real quick I love your show and I'd like to ask two questions my first one is I'm a little sad that Apple is no longer doing they're not as colorful as they used to be there they used to be the color company now they're just the company that makes black white rose gold and gold products even their logo used to be colored and all the ipods and do you think they'll ever do that with the iphone like have a blue purple pink yellow green iphone and do you think they're done with a wife like the ilife 0607 etc like I movie you know them thank you hey I agree we need more colors yeah I mean I know there's cases out there but the iphone 5c which I destroyed with another most their most recent um colorful collection of products you know apples just I don't think I think there's something in the DNA that has clearly changed and I don't even necessarily say Oh Steve Jobs was like behind all the color he might have been by clearly Tim Cook is like we're a classy company you know it's like these are these these looks or designs or maybe it's just a jony ive's influence it's not about fun it's about being classy mean a premium product like they forgot they were a premium product while still having colors and i got like almost the colors almost saved him you know like we all had gray computers white computers blab and then Steve Jobs started he came out he's like I got this bright pink laptop right here check this out it's like whoa that's awesome it's bright pink you know yeah I totally understand this guy we even just to give you a little background as well we talk about colors be long before I was here I used to work at a company called speck products we used to make cases and we ended up making the shells for laptops macbooks the first ever and the whole thing was to bring back colors because macbooks were all just silver oh yeah right there were no colors at all and that became the top-selling product for that company and probably all now that laptops are selling less these days not as much but for years that product drove that company and some I think the most challenging part of it is you know this some colors sell more than others yeah yeah black clear and red we're always the top ones and then after that you had to really kind of figure out how many units of these other colors were gonna make and that's up for them to decide I mean they're such a large-scale company they can figure that out but I do miss the colors I think you're right on the money like that's someone who loved colors and you know the guy that caught was his name sorry was it your math math yeah sure Matthew what's up um in response to I life the I life will not go away although it doesn't get updated nearly as much they're not gonna try and force people to use Final Cut Pro although Final Cut Pro is like iMovie plus pro a cup final gift horrible I movie pro it's like oh my goodness but a that they can't get rid of that I mean you still have iphoto which is plugged into their phone or actually that I believe it's isn't their new app gonna just be called me homo don't think so yeah yeah when we heard something some announcement recently something like that see my brain I'm sorry someone someone calls incorrect st. Brian you don't know you don't know nothing you should be doing this show don't do the show up but yeah it did either way I life will live on in some way shape or form the time that I was the most disappointed out I life is when they took away I DVD and I don't know most you see no one's even stevens like Audrey what DC peps not say I know you can burn dvds not only you can make your own DVD and use yes like I would you remember that and colors and music transition so I was in college I did that when I was trying to get a you know whatever demo reels out a no one was doing on DVDs people are still handing out this technology called VHS might as well been given us stone tablets back then and so I burned my own DVDs but I made my own menus on him and they're cool it doesn't you know what will you get a job because you did that no but it just shows that like huh I got that extra polish on there yeah one day you'll look back at your and you'll be all proud of your DVD menu one day I in fact still have one of those dvds that I should just bring to you as a joke just you could love it i would love it see some of my old work how horrible it was and how horrible it hasn't even improved at all in 10 years it's just just as bad it's probably like four kids watching the show like what's a DVD it's true but yeah i don't think they should they'll completely get rid of it also live in some way shape or form i think the last time it was updated was though like I live 2013 when they used to do it update it every year oh really yeah so we'll see okay we got another call Jeffrey oh no i'm sorry i'm going to do blair in west hollywood first letter hey this is blair in west hollywood so with the supposed release of the iphone on September 12th and that's short of a year from when the last iphone was released what will that do to people like me who did the Apple financing where you have to wait a whole year before you can upgrade let me know what you think hey sorry so I was reading a comment on periscope cuz I got distracted so can you tell me what he said oh he who is the subscription you I phone yes yeah yeah okay so from past experience i had an iphone i think it was when i moved from a 4s to a 5 back in the day or what it was one of those transitions and i still had a month in between when my phone was ready to upgrade and they did not let me shorten that distance they just said it's a pure contract it's 365 days maybe you can work your magic but I I it's what it's about a week and a half this time maybe close to two weeks the actual um what release would be the sixteenth if your contract ends on the twenty-fifth what did he say did he say the 25th I forgot or a week or so maybe maybe they'll make an exception but my hunch is that they won't they didn't for me back in the day and this is more through the carrier that carrier contract or you know when you buy it outright vs apple say no will do you a favor let's just do this I if they do it for you let us know I'd be curious to hear when that happens I have a feeling there's like some automated system like standing in the way of doing that you know I mean like like someone and at Apple just be like I can't do at the computer won't let me do it you have to wait to a contract ends I just have a feeling that's how we'll go yeah i mean the scope errs said like Paris coppers have just said basically the same thing happen to them so too bad that's a sorry sorry this is our last call Jeffrey I was wondering if you had a windows laptop or a netbook question of the day Steven windows or mac book I have a Windows my personal computers windows 10 and my work laptop is a macbook so am I in my witness yeah my my my work is a macbook my home computer computers I'm not just gonna sound like a spoiled dude but this is I actually have an old macbook air like old I don't have the new one but I use an iMac and an ipad pro 12.9 inches yes specifically to it do most of my stuff but i'll tell you right now i mean if you want one that does everything that's the best of those both worlds you got to get a surface pro oh yeah it's so good I'm just saying it's really good but why haven't i got a service pro because all my stuff's on the ecosystem and I do like my I like my iPad a lot but none of the keyboard solutions they have is worth my time yet bridge is coming out with one and I remember who else is that I'm curious to see but until someone can give me a good keyboard solution for my ipad pro um you know I go keyboard list but again nothing compared with the service pro does it makes me sad how how their hybrid OS is so much better yeah like solely my windows laptop it's all about the touchscreen I mean I have to be able to scroll hit play hit big buttons like I when I'm on my apple laptop it feels old to me I'm just like oh I can't touch the screen it's weird we like to touch things I like to touch stuff I like to touch things all right before we go kiddies ladies and gentlemen boys and girls 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