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Apple reverses its stance with the Apple TV (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy Podcast, Ep. 10)

2015-09-18
okay let me let me try and kill this end do it one more time they'll keep on saying it sucks I do this to kill that see if it fixed it's gonna hope that it worked you guys can tell me if it worked out or not I turn off yo yo your videos frozen and maybe this room is just a bad room for it now I see you there you go there right now I see you there you go better better it worked our Wi-Fi in our building is worse than LTE it worked Joe from Marilyn did it do it did I do it okay there we go stop breaking stuff that's what I'll say I'm a sideways it's cuz its horizontal turn your phone sideways hello okay i think that uh i'm good to go whenever you are mr. Beecham okay i send it to me what you mean i'm never on Chad on the document yeah I'm right here man wait wait sometimes it ok do it right now yeah that works they want me to turn my phone vertical now I'm upside down I'm still sideways wait what okay let's try this is that better you guys like it vertical no you're not hold on hold on no phone is fine no you're not better better no no yeah I think this is a battle between vertical and horizontal fans this is just it's impossible to please everyone here landscape or vertical what you all want I like you landscape horizontal vertical article i got litical from technical just leave it their all must have rotate rotation lock no I don't have it locked leave it landscape landscape both screw Android both landscape so funny how many IT guys are our landscape doesn't work leave it good now do what you do first real problem change it it's out of control him is gonna leave it this way for now fine leave him for now until y'all update your software yeah update your periscope your scope yo so much better in landscape this is like now this the standard I got for this is way too high it's like looking down on me this is a periscope issue vertical vertical ok right now we're gonna keep it this way now that's yeah it's gonna leave it like this ok mr. Beecham let's see how our cameras like what do you eat yeah I think I'm okay yeah I'm good with that I'm totally good with that no it's good don't touch it oh oh my goodness okay I'm not coming in york comic con i'm so bummed i wish i could go there I do go to Comic Cons but I just haven't been able to go to New York they don't send us there i would go if it was for work but they don't send us all right everybody watching on the periscopes wondering what is going on here this is the apple byte extra crunchy our podcast to talk about and expand on the stories you've heard we take your calls we have fun contests we just hang out it's myself Stephen Beecham so we're gonna do the show right sir let's do it alright let's do it all the youtubers give me so happy now they're like all start in five minutes instead of 10 okay know what that one you don't want that one okay my seat my seat shout out brush are you ready yep from the top of the CBS interactive building in San Francisco it's the apple byte extra crunchy with your host Bryan Tom Oh boom there goes a sound we're here live in living color welcome to apple byte extra crunchy everybody this is the show where we expand upon the topics of the week the news the latest happenings always plan to talk about with Apple now we just want to let you know off the top of the show because sometimes i forget the phone number you guys can cause because this is an interactive show the show is all about us but all about you more than anything else 1 800 61 62 63 8 we can check your voicemails we don't take live calls yet but that's how you can communicate with us tell us how you're feeling about iOS 9 how you're feeling about the upcoming iphone 6s the ipad pro the apple TV anything that has kind of come up i think a lot of people will be wondering what's going on with iOS 9 for the show just there i'm going to use their personal issues what bugs have you guys run into we want to know the bugs yes like things that even may not be bugs but bug you yes for example Steven Steven you've talked about this earlier today while we were setting this up yeah so the the new update if you go and if you make a video on your phone just you know everyone makes videos constantly the new play buttons are very tiny and they're up in the top and the top there's like a little bar along the top but they're just really small and they're hard let me see Regan so if I can flying to find it for people that are listening is a video my son's normally you be able to press pause and play just by directly tapping the center of the video yes like now Aaron looks pretty basically my phone it's over in the top you can't see but in the top right-hand corner it's like a tiny play/pause button that they put their it's tiny do you have to have tiny fingers it's almost like you need like an apple pencil oh my gosh I just hit me how much is that a hundred and ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine cents 99 bucks my man but it's really small and it's out of the way of your fingers that was the first problem I ran into I was like wait this is if I'm gonna have to like you know try to find this button each time it's gonna be a pain in the butt that is a pain in the button yes so we have iOS 9 we know that people some people over the air had issues updating over the air most people said be Tong plug it into your mac i did when i got home oh okay you know not when i'm at work yeah yeah cuz i don't i don't want to back up my phone and put all my stuff on my work machine yeah so we had that that's kind of par for the course but people are also talking about how with iOS 9 to complain about some apps are crashing on their iPhone and their iPad and a lot of times when this thing rolls out it can be a combination of hardware apps and the new oh I OS update and typically they'll release another kind of update / patch but it's the way it's almost always been I almost expect that now these days right you know it's never gonna be flawless out of the gates yeah I haven't haven't had any apps crash but yeah it is you know there's always little issues people like to wait a couple weeks or until after apple patches some of the problems before they do their update but I did have a friend on Facebook say my phone's broken now I did the update it's locked up doesn't work anymore well I will say some devices like my original iPad air i do not have the ipad air 2 because there's no reason to get it it runs slower really it's it's a little you can tell it's not as smooth and that happens right with Apple hardware a lot of times they say oh here get the latest iOS but then if you have maybe a phone not a year remove but maybe two years removed it never it never runs as well yeah you always are like it's it just doesn't it's not going to I did have a little fight with cereal I coast it's a little different now to get to Siri you know and usually hear that boo Boop that's why I know you're not more right so I was kind of like wha took me a little second to you know us to see the Serie prompting more it's difficult we have which was helpful right he's there all first world problem I know like like dude that play button in the corner oh my gosh I can't live ah I can't leave have you seen that one there was like a Bulgarian no yeah I can leave um reports from mixpanel which is kind of a website that pulls up the analytics says that up to this point I'm as of this day event we're around 48 hours after the release iOS 9 adoption is over twenty percent iOS 8 adoption is pretty high as well it's obviously dropped a blue line if you're watching this has dropped but iOS 9 adoption kind of creeps up but it's pretty much on progress and on track with while we sing with iOS 8 when it first came out also for people that didn't know by now Apple has delayed watch OS to this is because they found a critical bug within it and they weren't willing to release it to the public which i think is a very good thing that is a good thing like thanks Apple my whole statement on the show is let's be honest how many of you people are really using your watch that much like no one I don't think I don't think there's a single person out there maybe you can call in 1 800 what is that a number on you remember number 61 62 63 8 okay beautiful yeah that was people you can also email us at the apple byte at cnet com I want to know if it bothered you that os/2 didn't come out watch os/2 didn't come out it's fine we're gonna wait you're gonna get your animated wallpapers I still am going to be the judge to see if loading native apps on your watch how much it's going to make a difference especially how much data will it still take from your phone to bring in you know refresh the content we'll see i'm so used to not using apps on my phone on my watch anymore that it doesn't really matter to me how many sexin seconds does it take for an app to open know some of them will take 10 to 13 seconds no joke that is in the water nity the watch feels like an intention to yourself that the the watch face will actually timeout before the appt reloading that bad and then what happens when it times out does then you like reef flip your wrist or touch the screen to bring it back up then you have to unlock the screen and then the apps there and you're like why did I even do what I didn't use this for this that's funny this precise know this has no benefit to me whatsoever anyways we'll find out Apple hasn't officially released when told us when they're going to re not rerelease just release watch os/2 so we'll be waiting it's got to be pretty soon i'm guessing within the week and then just another quick software point itunes 12.3 arrives they fix some bugs the background that we pretty much won't see that much but the big issue here is they've added two factor authentication to kind of verify who you are not only through just like a password prompt but your phone as well that allows you to be safer where whatever you're making purchases on the itunes store which is a good thing that is good for that just do it it's not a big deal um we kind of want to show you also because we're waiting for the iphone 6s and they are pictures of the iphone 6s packaging we've kind of seen some leaked out but they on the blogs and on the internets they have a kind of a arrangement of all four packages I'm you know what sticks out to me is that there's only one there's only one black iphone now yeah like that is weird all white we get a racial here but it's like black I phones matter like the reason why I'm not getting any color other any I'll first of all don't I don't want rose gold no but how cool would have been to make a black iphone with gold won't they make like a navy dark blue one or something a black gold that would be awesome would be sick yeah be like Run DMC and said they put a white on it again this garbage man that is garbage black I phones matter I'm just rose gold here looks come on e I don't like that it looks like a fish that is paying cook a salmon that is salmon looks like salmon examine its pink man this is stupid pink alright um other products that we can't wait to see developers are now receiving their Apple TV units for testing purposes at WWDC they had a lottery for people who heard ivette devs that wanted to obviously build their apps on the platform some of those devs are now receiving their kits it only cost them one dollar for shipping they're obviously bragging about it and rubbing it in our faces by saying look at my new apple TV blah blah blah so there you go it's out in the wild but some of these developers are gonna have an issue I don't know if you um how much you gotta seen this story Steven but did you hear about what they're doing with the remotes and the controller thing yeah and I saw like an article that said this remote is gonna take down the ps3 and xbox that's like what it's the definites crazy so what Apple did is at the keynote at their September announcement they talked about how it will support third-party controllers which is awesome because of us do these m-phy controls that are pretty much an Xbox controller third-party work with games so you're going to really be able to create and play a lot more complex games but then Apple just recently reverse their decision and said the minimum requirement is that it all it has to be able to function on the apple remote this new Siri remote and it can also work on these third-party controllers hmm that's so that's lewd that is horrible like you can't limit it you can't build the same games on an xbox ps4 style controller versus what you can on that Siri remote yeah no way and it just would it would feel different it's just different yeah so that's that that's that yeah you also need the rumble you know you need to you need the vibration of the vibration fade by you need all that stuff need all that good stuff so Apple is reversed that as well and then just a quick footnote the ipad mini 4 people are starting to kind of break them apart it really got a two second mention the keynote we're gonna be talking about it longer than Apple even did at the keynote but the tear downs confirm it has now a smaller battery it has an a8 processor and 2 gigs of ram it's basically an ipad air 2 shrunken down to size okay so there you go that's why it was not friend center at the apple event right there yeah it was like it was like a mention oh yeah we got this really they showed they didn't even talk about they showed their breakdown of all the iPads and it was just the corner there and they're like oh yeah we got new iPad Mini yeah just just a legend now minor upgrade to minor minor okay um we because last week there was like a zoo here and we have some guests as well we forgot to do our force touch contest yes now we do want to mention that although Apple calls it 3d touch they still still refer to it as force touch oh yeah okay I was like putting on background music for it force touch contest but yeah we have evidence we have visual and audio evidence to back up the to back up this fact this is great send it on its way to the trash so of course force touch our free d touches in there's a good catch there is y'all like cotton mouth yeah like right I was like for superstition what it was like Tim Cook was remotely doing like the death grip yeah he was doing the Vader grip and course force touch are freely touches in you almost choked on himself homeboy almost freaked out Craig federighi almost choked on himself anyways we still wanted to show you the love because you guys you know added value to this show our force touch contest we're going to show you the five entries we got talk about them really quickly for people that are listening we won't dwell on them too long and then we have our society moment of which one we like right yeah so I actually put the one that we kind of already mutually decided on to be last okay good so here's number one which features mr. Tim Cook Dewey um do can you see the names that are on the files that I put there at alone if not it's ok and I can James Ellis this is from James Ellis all right it's a picture of your face ominous face with the star wars the force touch awakens logo on top of it in our heaters ninth of September very scary number two was from Jay Jason let me have to look at the display name Jason sand it all right yeah Jason sand it this is good one like that I've had yep it's an ipad with the star wars the force touch awakens again we have like Apple watches on there with Chewie and Leia and Luke okay it's pretty good neighbors this one is from Mike let me look at the display Mike one minor Moines are Mulder Molnar okay yeah it looks like it i Luke am older Luke molnar this like this one this one looks like an apple ad yeah it looks like one of those detailed stat sheets that you find on their website Vader's like controlling an iphone remotely there's like a find my droid for spool like icon is really cool that is cool push away notifications this was actually pretty good that one is good this one's after studying a little yeah sure I'm liking this one I am kind of like a wrong with you and this is the one that we chose as the winner the winner winner chicken dinner Dennis or I'm sorry Daniel I'm have ever taken melon a mr. Daniel cattaneo cattaneo iphone 6s now with Forrest touch it's just Vader with a big super long I slope looks like a paddle like he's gonna paddle some we gonna whack somebody but you're right that is awesome man okay yes I do feel like the other one was better now I know I know maybe we should give them both the prize I'll work on it Luke and Daniel maybe let's have that let's have everyone at home boat actually really okay so this is what you guys can do you can help us by telling us which one you think is the winner send us your emails to the apple byte at cnet com or just call us and we'll just we'll just pull it yeah we'll just pull it my chat on my periscopes down so I can't see anything it doesn't matter okay so there's the florist touch contest and we just had a few more side stories before we wrap up this one probably the most relevant to many people AT&T is changing how they're throttling unlimited unlimited data customers who have been grandfathered in this is a big deal like this surprise me I didn't even think this was real this is a hallelujah moment oh that's exactly what I tweeted hallelujah hallelujah really so funny man oh absolutely so their date their unlimited data plan for a while was once you hit five gigs five gigs is like nothing five gigs is nothing it takes a while to get there though especially when you're streaming stuff yes still it's like nothing so the original plan was five gigs of data they would start throttling down your speed and also if you're in congested areas okay they have now increased that unlimited data kind of a threshold to 22 gigs now yes some of the ears are bleeding but it's not it's not mine that's all good we just got to do it um so yeah that's good that's a big deal yeah I used to get all these text messages from AT&T when I was at three point seven five gigabytes yeah exactly hey we're sending you a warning that if you get 25 we're gonna start throttling you and I were just immediately in my head i'll just be like wait that's limiting my unlimited data it was always unlimited unlimited yes i was very frustrating and I'm when I heard I heard Bridget Carey do this on CNN update yesterday I was like yes if you're gonna get those messages anymore it feels more unlimited yet limited yeah because you definitely felt no this is the slow down I would get it in around the end of the month I would get it like two to three hearing somebody I have a slingbox I watch a lot of NBA basketball when I'm on the go yeah and it was like what yeah super annoying this is awesome that's great great that's that's great Thank You AT&T I might stick with you that might be the motor stick with you in the first times in my life that I'm actually like happy about what a cell phone carrier did it but the funny thing about is it was something that we should have had in the first place exactly and I know there's many lawsuits yeah there are people who felt the same thing that we should they're like let's just increase it to cover our butts yeah just in case this comes and gets us back people never get there 22 gigs no way no way 22 gigs is pretty hard to do over mobile you just have to be looking at your phone constantly for like constantly streaming look like video yeah this YouTube video specifically okay Apple cars we know it's a big deal we know they're there we know they're coming up all reports say they're coming in 2020 reports of surfaced that Apple is actually working on a new and a better be advanced mapping technology at a research and development center in loon Sweden Sweden so they had an acquisition of c3 technologies that kind of helped to integrate their 3d flyover maps at at the time everyone's like oh cool 3d flyover it's a cool presentation feature you're never gonna use it with your friends and then we all know about the maps debacle and we know how Scott Forstall was pushed out and we know how Apple maps is still behind Google Maps and we'll quite honestly always be behind Google Maps but they're working on a they're working on something they just got they just got transportation like buses in subway know like last week you know they sent us a memo right right did you get that there was actually like an alert that's yeah guys now includes public transportation I'm like oh awesome thanks because I sty I'm never gonna switch from google maps sorry so we have that but then the also other kind of fun nugget here is from a report from The Guardian that reports that apple meat has recently met with California DMV officials to discuss a self-driving car basically their executives met at the california department of motor vehicles they met with let's see here self the department self-driving car experts bernard Soriano DMV deputy director and Stephanie daughtrey chief of strategic planning there are all co-sponsors of California's autonomous vehicle regulation project a lot of these rules and laws that are going to be put in place people believe will end up becoming the NAT the nationwide standard for autonomous vehicles this is still very early but think about this apple's talking to the DMV how long has google been actually developing and working on these things they have a fleet they're on the road every day if you drive around the mountain view area palo alto mountain view there around my neighborhood now everywhere you see that you see them yeah we know Apple has been throwing out their own kind of apple vans but we know who's ahead in this game definitely Google because I mean they already had Jerry Brown signed the legislation to allow self-driving cars in California and those big historical moment and we're totally lucky that we live in California hell yeah where we're going to have cars driving us around we'd have to do anything we can sit and drink his hangouts yeah drink be merry be happy just chill just chillax also recent reports say Google is ramping up their self-driving vehicle production they're not going to put them on sale publicly yet there it's going to be privatized right now so it's not like you can go out and buy one in the next few years but this whole self driving car thing the fact that like you said we got to see this phenomena as it grows and builds and as it happens and yeah will pretty much be one of the first exposed to it in a normal living context that's exciting it's very exciting none I can't wait it's super cool so there you go that's what's going on with Apple in their cars they're playing catch-up but it's to me it's weird that I get the idea of Apple doing a car but doing a self dry us you know autonomous vehicle self-driving car yeah seems like wow now you're really like I don't want to say desperate it seems a little desperate like just work on your own car yeah p with Tesla so they're doing a regular car in a self-driving car yeah I mean I mean I wonder if there would be like if it's gonna be a regular car with an autonomous upgrade or something you know what I'm saying cuz yes it seems weird for them just to make the leap straight to autonomy have no they have no driving experience in the field they're hiring a lot of people from Tesla from general motors from all different fields but I'm maybe you know what it is they probably need their self driving cars for their campus comes to be so damn yes the cameras I people will get lost they don't know where to go yeah it keeps wanderers or right away from like the top secret areas that's what it could be for it's gonna be a weird day when a car drives up to us and tells us you can't be here get off the apple campus get off my lawn get off also um one quick footnote at the end for Apple fans quite honestly I'm gonna check it out because it's in my parents backyard in cupertino Apple is reopening their headquarters their company store the only store it's on campus and it sells Apple merchandise so like Robert Scott cool pens watches they actually had an apple watch before the Apple watch was the Apple why yeah so this is on campus it's called a company store I'm gonna go check it out it's at ten a.m. tomorrow and Saturday oh nice the main thing that's going to be different about this is this is a reportedly going to be the first store that is completely designed by jony ive oh wow so it's going to have its allegedly supposed to have his design influence he's the head of all design apple corporate period so it's supposed to have a fingerprint on it might be a preview of what we might see in future Apple stores I don't know I'm gonna find out probably scope it just see what's going let us know if when you walk through the door his voice like welcomes you welcome to the apple store hello Steven welcome welcome welcome to the apple store we've identified you buy the iphone you have in your pocket welcome Steve please enjoy the mentioned dice he there they also will be selling actual apple products there in the past they they had some computers but they're gonna be doing everything for my pads two watches so there's going to be not only branded merchandise but actual products there tomorrow tenia I hope there's not a line oh there's gonna be a line you sir you can count on a line man telling me like what okay what time do you think I should go there though man it opens at 10am I'd get there like play nine yeah I was even thinking like 830 yeah you know would be cool is if they have like retro apple shirts like stuff like if i go through apple mouse if i go at eight thirty and sit on the damn concrete as a grown man for a company store I mean I've have to go put up a tent I just want to go there just to report on it honestly like yeah I think it's gonna be great you're gonna shoot some video so yeah all my own gonna hand hold it okay gonna do anything for Cena like post anything on you do post up maybe I'll know bring me back some footage we don't like employees just randomly having access to our suggestion posting videos hmm pondering wondering all right guys very inside baseball that's gonna do it for this we show remember to continue to call us leave us your voicemails the issues your burning questions 1 800 61 62 63 8 i'm brian Tong that's Stephen Beecham we are peacing out on the Apple vide extra crunchy CEO I didn't get a kick out of that it's good hey whoa is like whoa it was like totally whoa man whoa man whoa it's funny I'd seen in espanol what's asking me do you thank goodness I was like honestly I'm thankful for them yeah they're great I love them I'm super thankful for that what just happened oh my goodness it's Friday everybody you rejoice let's get out of here okay I'm gonna take my headphones off all right we'll see you guys I'm gonna shut down the stream shut it you for watching on we're getting more views on YouTube which is great really yeah yeah i think when i changed my connection it up the periscope my lays out your periscope into 20 minutes ago I hope it's being recorded like it's fine periscope means nothing it's just there all right guys yeah so yo you
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