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hello everybody my name is Steven Beach a producer of the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Bryant hog what's up hostess with the mostess Beach and tonk in the house guess what it's episode 112 of the Apple byte extra crunchy this is our complimentary piece to our weekly show the Apple byte it's only like around five six seven minutes this is we get down and dirty and also news stories drop by the time you watch the show and it's always constantly evolving this app world we have fun talking about it we are fans of tech we're fans of Apple when they do the right thing so everyone that's listening you know the drill to be a part of the show all you have to do is call us at 1-866-376-8255 bought the iPhone 10 were like there's no 128 gig option you're making me get a 256 they said more than half of the purchases were actually 256 gig models for the iPhone 10 that's kind of an so the 256 is what it's like it's a little more than if that's 100 bucks - I think it's like $1,200 so 1200 times six million that's like five trillion dollars that's incredible I think I think that math is actually really accurate thank you for computing that so quickly I flunked math in college a couple times I'm not allowed to flunk math it's in my DNA we're supposed to be good at math I'm like a hockey I'm a walking abacus yeah because I know what an abacus is all right also just another quick story about the Black Friday Cyber Monday Before we jump into kind of all these new hardware news air pods and iPads were listed according to Adobe Adobe takes analytics of the activity going on during that weekend so thanks to you all air pods and iPads we're listed as the top-selling electronics during this year's record-setting Cyber Monday now on Cyber Monday it is believed sales hit an all-time record of six point five nine billion dollars in sales that's almost 17 percent higher than last year's sales also the number one product out of all these sales they broke down kind of like some of the gadgets we have the Xbox one X the ps4 Pro is there a lot of things that were discounted the air pods were the most desirable cyber monday product and I found that interesting because when you looked out there there weren't that many discounts on them so I think really people were just buying air pods straight up straight up and I saw I seen a lot of people around the office wearing them now so they might they might have picked up that deal right you're telling you on a pepper pods don't yeah I do I know I know you do I know you do so bad yeah I like I like the way they fit my you know the regular air buds or what do they call your buds your ear buds your ear pods yeah I mean they fit me fine and I have no problem with them so I would like a pair I do I do want a pair okay we'll put on we'll put on a Santa Beechum's a little little Stephen B Tim's Christmas list and we'll see if he's naughty or nice I know he's not even oh I don't know know that no no 24/7 I'm always naughty naughty naughty all right let's talk Apple hardware lots of cool stories this week coming out I think though lead story that has accumulated over time is the fact that Apple pushed through a patent application for a future foldable iPhone yeah are you all ready for this I'm ready for it man the patent US Patent and Trademark Office published this patent application that Apple has put through here's some of the things that it's using an elements that's described even last week we talked about how Apple is looking to get into developing and manufacturing their own micro LED displays this is a thinner version of the current OLED technology this pen specifically calls out micro LED technology as the display type or one of the display types that could be used with this it talks about a foldable type phone smartphone that could be folded into like a book also they talk about kind of some of the hinges that would be involved in making this happen using liquid metal parts it doesn't mean that it's liquid metal like the Terminator it's it's a more flexible hinge let's put it out that way and I do house I'll also bring this up because Samsung has already showcased kind of like this foe concept video back in 2014 of a foldable samsung galaxy they actually went on the record this year to say Samsung will be coming out with a foldable phone in 2018 that we will actually see it in 2018 maybe we'll see it at CES in a couple months so guess what Samsung is doing it Apple's gonna do it - yeah so that's like--that's so later that's like an immediate that's an immediate reaction to Samsung doing it you think like the patent of patent filing and or is this something Apple has been working on for a while I'm sure they've looked at it I'm not sure they've taken it seriously and look Apple jumped on the trend when was it the pet was it the Pebble watch was that what they were called yeah yeah yeah the pebble was the big Kickstarter 1 app without became so hot every major company started pumping out smartwatches after the pebble opened people's eyes because I raised something like ten or eleven million dollars on its Kickstarter it was at the time a record-setting product for a Kickstarter so look we know apples not always first a lot of the times they like to say that they they get it right or at least they get it right the best that they can so we'll see Apple foldable phone I don't think we'll see you next year if they're actually gonna do this thing this doesn't mean they're actually gonna do it but if they do it sure maybe like two years three years down the road we'll find out things that are you want a foldable foam bro you have to flip hell yeah I think I think the most popular joke is Apple already makes a foldable phone that's right iPhone six bendgate yes you are all correct this render right here real quick this render it looks like a like a chair you know like you can put some legs on the bottom and just have an Apple chair it's cool it ain't even real I we're just coming everything goes full circle trends we got the razor flip phone that was one of the dopest phones I could see I like how our phone is today but it could be interesting I'm just saying it could be interesting yeah yeah if you could fold a foot if your phone could be half the size and fold out like that and still have the bait same screen real estate and you just like you like flip it out cycle that would be cool little thing I would be totally cool with that all right a new report from the Nikkei Asian review says Apple is planning to design their own power chips in house as soon as 2018 and what is what does this really mean all right so we know recently that Apple pretty much squashed a company they're doing their own kind of core coprocessors we've seen the M processor for for fitness and movement we've seen this Bionic neural engine chip that Apple is implemented to handle the facial recognition image and speak recognition really a machine learning chip on the new iPhone 10 and we also saw how Apple decided to build their own graphics processor a little earlier and this company called imagination technologies was literally destroyed in the stock market because at the time they were Apple's number-one supplier so apples like we're gonna do this on their own apples really gonna be doing the same thing they want to they want to take even more control this experience so there looks like according to multiple sources that they will be designing their own main power management chips for use in these iPhones coming as soon as 2018 there's another company that's gonna be a casualty of this called dialog semiconductor whose shares plunged as much as nineteen percent after the news there's multiple reports claiming this but the main advantage of this Apple controls that chip Apple a lot of times can tie their hard work together more intimately when they have all the pieces of the puzzle from the ground up being built so this could help with charging functionality battery management and energy consumption which I don't think anyone's gonna complain about I think this if it benefits us the consumer we're all about it sure do you want to fall with better battery Beecham I want my phone I don't want to have to ever charge my phone I want it to be solar power just work all the time I don't have to plug it in nothing I don't care about the wireless charging just work there was a patent that Apple had some level of solar charging through the screen yeah this is from like a couple of years ago again we haven't seen it come to fruition these are just patents but it is what it is and we stick with kind of more talk about the iPhone and this was kind of interesting Johnny I've write apples I don't know what his official title is right now I believe he's like the veep is he the VP of design I don't even know exactly what his official title is but we all know right he's their design he's their design chief at Apple has had some great hits and is also in my opinion had some misses but he had this really interesting interview with a Smithsonian magazine talking about his work but really he kind of shed light on Apple's new campus specifically and so he's talking about how Apple Park their new UFO circular ring building is really cool because they're going to be able to have multiple different design teams work together industrial designers font experts motion graphic experts and computer interface designers will be able to come together they show like this video clip that has a lot of kind of some of the just the design elements of their also this space will actually have their own milling machines and what is that why is that gonna help Apple this enables them to build physical prototypes sure they've been able to do like 3d printed models but these specific milling machines will allow them to use the native materials that would be on some of these products and their first kind of concept and we'll be able to grasp the idea of like okay will this work or not I think that's really cool that these are being implemented on-site in Apple Park he even says in this quote I think you only really understand a material its properties and attributes and importantly the opportunity the material allows if you actually work it yourself and the most remarkable point in this whole process is when you make the first model we might like it we might not but the first model you make and then everything changes so I think the other thing that uh there's another quote in this story that made me laugh is they had talked to him Johnny I've about the iPhone 10 and I've talked about it's all glass design and it's edge to edge display he said this is something that Apple has aspired for years to make and then he dropped the bomb in comparison he critiqued the older iPhone designs and says and now seems to me a rather disconnected component housed in an enclosure when talking about the iPhone 7 plus so he's basically saying the 7 plus is dated it's old he's over it doesn't even care about it you've got dated technology if you have the 7 plus it is unacceptable that's crazy that he's like dissing that his own product kind of you know it's just like a its interests in a shower that blows my mind actually I think in a way though as a designer you have it's always like you're always looking forward to the next evolution so I think your newest work is always gonna be your best work you're all just working to be like and it was good at the time but that makes sense that makes sense cuz you know like there's things that I've done a long time ago and I look at it now I'm like that is crap what is that I mean as a creator of music unit you know it's it aligns with that same type of a thinking and mentality alright another cool patent that has surfaced is Apple wins a patent for really the true depth true depth camera that is used on the iPhone but using this to support hand gesturing in a 3d interface for IMAX are you all ready to be like an Apple Jedi with your iMac so it has different functions we're right we know that Apple acquired primeSense I think back in either it was either 2013 or 2014 prime sense was the company behind the Microsoft Kinect Apple acquired them and really what you have in the iPhone 10 currently is aspects not and it just not a Kinect itself but aspects of a Microsoft Kinect in the iPhone 10 in that lovely little notch that you know I love so much love it so there's in this knotch right there saying we want to implement the same technology in an imac do things gestures like a push gesture with your hand a wave gesture or move your hand up to do things like unlock the computer and other tasks I think it's I think it's actually kind of cool I'm down with this is cool but figure five is it's kind of funny I mean with the arrow where his thingy yeah where his hands going up and down figure five yeah I wonder if like where is your mind you I saw figure five I was like what is happening here oh he's dreaming a blaster okay oh my god so your Mac might might misconstrue some things hey that's that's a concern there's if you watch the video show we have a new term for people that get really excited about Apple Apple we get real excited about that but you if you you got a do you got a fat bowl if you're really exciting your juiced up about it just Apple bapple it up Apple it up alright and before we take our little break Apple is reportedly planning to release an even cheaper nine point seven inch iPad in 2018 this is according to digit times we know that right now the lowest priced at least standard sized iPad the nine point seven inches 329 digit times reports the Apple is trying to target a price in the range of two hundred and fifty nine dollars we've seen really a new life being breathed into the iPad line thank you to the iPad pro which is one of my favorite Apple gadgets in so long iPad sales growth recovered this year after remember they went something like three straight years of declining sales because it was just look you don't have to replace him as much we've talked about that it was a stale market there wasn't any really new innovation but iOS 11 plus iPad pro awesome still can't do as much as a surface pro but still awesome for Apple users very cool yeah baby that that's what we want I love that all right should we take a break to a show some love to our sponsors my man let's do it music sound all right check this out the single router Wi-Fi model is just doesn't work for increasingly high bandwidth world so guess well what you need is a distributed system the answer is zero we've talked about Aero before we love them whatever your Wi-Fi needs 0 has the power to seamlessly blanket your home and fast reliable Wi-Fi via ethernet wireless or really any combination so you simply set it on a flat surface plug it into a wall outlet to expand coverage into any room not to mention you have the addition of a third 5 gigahertz radio this is the second-generation arrow that's now tri-band which is twice as fast as its predecessor and lets 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infringement complaints against Apple saying there were 16 more of its patents that Apple was using in its phones no you go ahead I was gonna say aren't they trying to block Apple from selling iPhone X's - yes iPhone tens iPhone 8 and 8 plus --is because of this they are trying to block them from being sold we know how how that doesn't really work it's it's all kind of like a threat that ends up getting resolved but there's a lot of history here Apple felt that Qualcomm was unfairly charging higher prices for their components in their phones then when Apple has models of the you know the iPhone 7 that had different until motives and Qualcomm modems there were plenty reports that substantiated and showed that the Qualcomm modem was a faster performing autumn but Apple throttled it down so that it would have equal ish on the same level of performance as the Intel based modems Intel modem based iPhones Qualcomm wasn't happy about that this continues to go on Apple filed a lawsuit against Qualcomm Qualcomm does the same Qualcomm is now like we said filing these patent infringement complaints against Apple this is not going to end anytime soon it's just a wide-ranging legal war Apple actually sued Qualcomm for nearly 1 billion dollars in January in patent royalty rebates again they told you that they had felt that Qualcomm was charging them too high so there you go guys have fun with that when big boys fight when big companies fight it gets ugly first world fights first world fights all right software stuff a lot of stuff this came out this week I'm gonna kind of try and run through some of these because you might not want to linger on this but we know about we heard about the root password vulnerability that came out about a week ago this is where anyone if you are a Mac OS High Sierra user specifically the High Sierra users could go into your user in groups kind of where you type in your password to get access to computer type in the username root and leave the password completely blank and that person could get complete access to pretty much any file on your computer Wow yeah so thanks lennier again for finding this one out that has been actually patched with a Apple security update and then there was like a follow up or some users after that update we're having file sharing issues that has also been fixed with another update to that update this is happening a lot yeah that's that yeah like like every field like almost every other day there's a new update to iOS or mac o s-- or something yeah it there is someone's like someone's on the periscopes like you really read comments I'm like yeah I do when I can when I can take a peek like I'm doing the show right now also there's another autocorrect issue affecting users of iOS 11 and later this time if a user typed in the word it it would potentially autocorrect it to capital i dot t the same thing was happening so for some users that were typing in the word is it would change it by autocorrect to I dot s there's been no response by Apple for a fix of this it's not happy to everybody but it is happening to hundreds of users not just like two or three but a lot of people I finally updated my phone from the from the I error oh you did because I was out of town and I couldn't plug it in my computer my phone itself has been asking me to update to the to one of the betas but I do not want to do the beta because it's not back you can't back it up right you can't back up your phone right now with eleven point two beta so I'm like no I don't want to touch that so anyways I did finally update the dot this original I bug issue apples also seated the fifth beta of iOS eleven point two to developers or if you are part of the public beta program which is free you can download that as well you know we talked about Apple paid cash Siri specifically working without a connection on the phone and then also support for the 7.5 watt charging for faster wireless charging I didn't know this but I don't know if you can show it in the in that article Beach in iOS sorry on the iPhone 10 you pull down from the top right hand corner to bring up your control center we know that Apple has this annoying bar on the bottom of the phone to let people know you swipe up for your to go back to your home screen they're gonna put a second bar on the lockscreen under the top right hand corner just to let people know that yeah it's you can swipe down here as well okay is it if you scroll down the article more because I think it's in here oh I see is this it no I can't see it anymore no it's okay it's art it's that blue thing okay are in the top right-hand corner and a bar in the bottom on your lock screen that's awesome oh I see it's just kind of like a visual cue like you could swipe here I don't think we're that dumb I honestly don't think we're that dumb I think it's an insult like it makes it really maybe is an indication of the broad general use of the iPhone fine but come on man I mean we're not even like being tech snobs here you really need to put a bar up there now I don't think I think most people that get their iPhone 10 that aren't even that tech-savvy don't even know what the bar is therefore they're not be like oh there's a bar I should swipe up they don't know that I'm pretty sure if I saw that and I didn't know what it was I would think it was like a problem with my screen I mean like there's like a issue there's a line in my screen like what is this but what I did first play with the iPhone 10 I I you know I there was a little learning curve I had to figure out how to do it so you know where each way to swipe and stuff so I don't know maybe they'll get rid of it in the next update or something yeah it's like they're gonna teach us train us first and then yeah anyways there you go the bar is there like someone's saying in the in the chat like it's for early adopters so um also I have to admit that I was totally wrong this I thought the iPhone 10 was gonna be really really hard to get even through the beginning of next year but according to reports uh shipping estimates for the iPhone 10 have improved to under one week for the United States they tend they I you know we had heard stories about how iPhones were getting shipped to customers earlier that were seen like four to five weeks they were getting it more in like two to three weeks so I mean everyone's gonna be happy about that there's nothing bad with that is that someone like cracking the whip or is that just you know I think it's just them getting their supply chain like just totally ramped up and maybe changing the tolerance of the face ID recognition that I love that caller that called it about do you think this is like a scandal going on back then I'm like I don't know Apple TV also gets this new if you're using the preview versions or the public betas of i OS 11.2 and TV OS 11.2 they introduced the ability to watch sports games sports matches sports teams directly through that watch app on your Apple TV or through the Apple TV app on your phone that is actually gone live if you have early versions of this really cool right now ESPN is really the only app that is supported at the moment this isn't being rolled out you know general consumer live so I'm expecting will see other apps like NHL MLB TNT even to get plugged in with this but it is pretty cool like I love that it's pretty sweet and then just to talk about other shipping delays with the Apple TV right now an Apple TV with 64 gigs of storage is facing a four to five weeks shipping delay oh man so holiday you want that 4k Apple TV that is still yet to get dolby atmos support people know what i play people know what bugs me that's that's a four to five week shipping delay at the moment so they straighten out the iPhone shipping but not the Apple TV yeah maybe you know I think just a bunch of people Apple TV $1.99 that's like a I really I don't want to say easy gift again but it's kind of a nice gift to get someone like a that's gonna be your present for Christmas you know yeah I was seeing him on sale for like 85 but that's you know probably an earlier version over a Black Friday and Cyber Monday I was seeing him on sale for like 85 bucks I was I was tempted we're gonna do it alright um you know what I say let's just go to our voicemails right now and just get to it what do you think they do it maybe for calling we had some good calls but our voicemail did fill up this week so we there probably were some of you guys that didn't get through but we thank you for trying and I thank you yeah I cleared it out so you can call us and leave a message and let me put the phone number up just just so you guys have it and here is our first call here we go get beat is elicit a dog from Chicago said to bring up a point on apple carplay mission that I can't use my google map do you think app will ever let you put Apple maps on carplay it make it a lot more useful let me know what you think looking forward to hearing from you thanks right I'm pretty sure he meant Google Maps he first said are they gonna bring Google Maps and they said are they gonna bring so are they gonna bring Apple maps it's not gonna do GLE maps i mean i could go on the record and say i don't think we'll ever see google maps in apple's carplay it just doesn't make sense for them to do that they're competing with androids androids own car software system there they're true it's Apple ecosystem thing I know they have third party music services that are supported by car play but I just don't think we'll ever see Google Maps in apple carplay how about this at least for not for the next three years after that maybe maybe they'll get over themselves so car plays not open to developers like like an iPhone like the iPhone is you have you had they have very specific deliberate partners that they allow to show up on their display because it basically looks like an iPhone with things like a row of five and five of apps that are you know that grounded off corners and it's not like they're gonna let you play games or have apps just go to town on it it's Apple it's a very controlled ecosystem we've always known that so Google Maps I would love it but it's not gonna happen yeah yeah they need to open that up though because the car is like the next space you know like we've done the flame up a lot of things up they need to open up the home pod I mean they don't they don't have even right now the developer files have shown that they're not looking to open it up they're only gonna have Apple music as the native music service on the home pod yeah and no other third-party apps like Amazon echo third-party apps thousands whether do you use and you know we're gonna be talking to alexa in our cars like in the next couple of years oh yeah oh yeah play me the song Alexa do it okay here we got another car another call here we go hey guys Nick from Alameda again I just wanted to comment on the puff of your last podcast and talking about the home pod the bottom line is that Apple can't see the forest through the trees because they want to design an entire product around functionality whereas Amazon design an entire product around just functionality I look at the Amazon echo as being a gateway or a key to an entire fleece automated world and that's where I think apples missing the mark because for me I have an echo dot and I used three point five millimeter phone jack and I plug it right right into the back of the bose system and it sounds awesome and that's fifty bucks and the home pods 350 so I could have a dot literally in every single room if I wanted to for the price of one home pod so I think Apple needs the needs to take a look at themselves and honestly design something that is cheap affordable and maybe just a modular hookup to something that would allow people to interact with their their ecosystem love the show Thanks awesome call yeah I love that call because not only is he talking about the problem but he's talking about a solution and you know what guess what Apple isn't always first to market they've made mistakes we've seen them trail I feel like they're trailing like they haven't been before at any time but guess what the power of their ecosystem allows them to trail and allows them to one day maybe come up with a little home pebble instead of a home pot right because quite there is no way look at okay how about this this Cyber Monday and this Black Friday where were the biggest deals they were around the Amazon echo the echo dot smart lights from Philips Logitech Harmony hubs Google mini Google home the smart home voice assistant was the hotspot this during this sales season it's gonna continue through the Christmas break Apple again is delaying their home pod until March or whatever to early 2018 they shut down their company for like a couple weeks in December so we know nothing's gonna be going on then they're missing all this this is what is this year three or year four of the Amazon echo where they're a fully mature platform and now they're at the point where mom and dad are doing it not just tech tech no elite techno tech fans it's mom and dad who have already started do it now it's like grandma starting to get into it right like mainstream general consumer Apple's missing this they can do something similar but there's gonna be a point in this race where people just think of either Amazon or Google as the voice assistant and for the home Siri might be for your phone but it's not gonna be for your home yeah and that's they you just don't want to be there you don't want to be number three you want to be yeah you want to be number one but at least be one or two you're you're like you're a far away third right now and that sucks that's sucks and series not even as smart as Google Google's assistant or Amazon's Alexa so it's just bad news and it's disappointing the caller said that the echo dot was $50 but I've seen it it's on sale like 30 30 bucks it's super cheap now and just right now you can get up for 30 bucks should I tell the story when we're all having lunch and then we saw that the echoes were we're free and everyone made a mad rush to the computers well it's a great product we're all sitting having lunch Brian Tong couple work co-workers here at C net and then we got a text or something I think you got the text right Brian that echo dots were free on Amazon we all went we ordered and we all got free dots so I know it was like a random thing that happened but you know it was a good random thing and yeah and again serious serious apples well you know one of their biggest missteps honestly look I'm not a future I'm not a future teller but I am no Tom yes but you can't you can't understate that they had this platform out what long before anyone did and they build a home pod without the foresight of having Serie B at the heart of it they talked about it in that report from Bloomberg last week it was the center of they wanted to make a high-end audio device they didn't want to make a high-end voice assistant that happened also be a high-end audio device they wanted to make a great sounding speaker that completely changes how the home pod is developed and built and looked at from ground up from the from the company so they're not and they're not catching up anytime soon and it's a shame it's it's a huge mess it's one of the biggest misses that's all right you know what though um before we go guys do have we do have one more thing to do you wanna talk about this sure let's talk about that what's that the one more thing no but we want to we want to say thanks to our buddies Joe Knoll right yeah jewel from Hawaii hand-carved handmade us an apple buy extra crunchy podcasts plaque for our studio that I will be in in a couple weeks can you read the message he wrote to us this is so thoughtful thanks for all the great podcasts you do hope you like this handmade plaque same as the four of fours ah the 404s just kidding I love the fluorophore just the way I like to say AHA just a way I like to say Mahalo hallo baby Thank You Joe Vitt love it people are saying do we review periscope live comments yeah when I see them I totally look at them alright the other thing that I wanted to do that's awesome we're gonna hang it up in there it's gonna be a fixture in our podcast studio we also want to wish you mr. Beecham a happy birthday day today is the day no actually was last it was the 26th so 26 is the day 26 is the day thanks man yeah I turned a big 404 oh I still feel like I'm 21 I still feel I feel like I'm 16 then so we still that's all I get we still act like it too oh yeah I've been I I know that for sure so gets me in trouble sometimes alright well hey happy birthday beat your your amazing part of the show I just wanted to shout you out because I don't think people understand how much you do behind the scenes for this podcast all of our live stream is your amazing man so I got nothing but love for you bro thanks man I really appreciate it you are the man alright everyone that's gonna do it remember our phone line mailbox has now been opened up call us at