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coming up on today's show we find out what Apple had in store for us at this year's WWDC and whether the new Jurassic world movie is worth your time yes all coming up on the scene at UK podcast hello and a big welcome back to both of you hello and to everyone hello yes and we're back yeah not only back yeah we're not live but we are but we are back and we're back in video form it has been a while Cindy numbers in video it has yeah it's been a while since we had a podcast we've been taking a break recharging our batteries going along holidays a long bath a lot of traveling a lot of yeah getting ready and one inside of revamp the podcast into a better form and this is that better form I wonder if it's possible to see how much we've aged horribly in the two months or so clearly there's still some way to go a little bit of a little bit of ways to go but we're gonna kick off straightaway by handing over to you Katie because he can of traveling you've been yeah you've been all over where have you been globe-trotting what have you been well I don't want to overstate it I did go very very long way all across the English Channel to Paris international travel are we yes I went to Paris a couple of weeks ago now actually to see Mark Zuckerburg speak at a conference called viva tech actually went and I saw a number of other people speak their ABC I was a Satya Nadella from Microsoft and the French president Emmanuel macron was there you know lots of kind of big names and but I was primarily there to see Mark Zuckerberg now obviously Zuckerberg hasn't been speaking publicly that much over the past few months ever since the Cambridge analytic a scandal practice of embarrassment yeah oh well I I think you know for PR reasons as well probably that sounds fun the the the president of uber Mark Zuckerberg who else was appearing some dictators just like everyone who had to apologize and just people who were having a real terrible time sounds like a really bad supergroup isn't it Mark Zuckerberg on sax well I mean actually I was kind of a bit gutted when I when I was actually there because so the person that was interviewing him on stage is the CEO of publicists the PR agency so it was it was very very very gentle he looked this bad your average Sunday yeah what's your favorite color you know like he's over the past few months he's being used to speaking in front of Senators Congressmen and members of the European Parliament he's really been kind of trying at least to grill him on the issues that matter and there was not even a single mention of Cambridge analytic well recently person the person who does Facebook to PR and they're just like no let's just have you know he'll be on stage with only if our own PR team does the questions so like I say just a total fluff piece what's your favorite type of pasta mark yeah Oh in the Far filleted himself to to talking about to bringing up some of the issues in the interview just wrestled integral yes no no no mark no no he kind of focused on like you know he really opens as well by saying you know like we've been doing this that we'd be making changes and sort of kind of you know there was no kind of apology there was no he seems much more relaxed much happier you know talked about a lot of his other ideas and you know sort of things he has coming up so one of the things that he's going to do that he talked about is create a kind of Supreme Court for Facebook and what this is gonna involve is so at the moment if you if you have something that's taken down on Facebook you know somebody complains about something that you've posted there's no kind of there's no where to redress your like issues and say you know redress your grievance that grievances and say actually I think this should remain up and this is why and what he's trying to do is create a system where where people can do that they can challenge decisions that Facebook's made about what can be posted and what can't and I think this is primarily I think it's so kind of almost like a free speech issue because Facebook doesn't want to be you know it wants to be on the right side of the free speech debate but at the same time it doesn't want to be allowing hate content at the terrorists content you know content that you know a lot of people would find objectionable so well they I think what they're gonna do is try and create this sort of Supreme Court that's not made up of people who work at Facebook it's gonna be external people that have an understanding of what Facebook's values are and what its aims and what its mission is but who ultimately is a kind of like you know there's a bit of a there's a line drawn between the people that work internally at Facebook and this these are the people so would that be if if they you said like if you you have something taken down you can challenge say whether it should be left up but presumably can it work in the opposite way if you've asked for something to be removed and then they just said they say no this is this is fine can you then challenge that because I've had that yeah many times with because I have there's a photo of me which for some reason as we know has a very very high Google ranking and is regularly used people will take that picture use as their profile picture they will also then search for that picture find other pictures of me and I've had Facebook accounts where it's just full of pictures of me and catfishing people catfishing people yes basically that's what they call it yeah and you know people going around looking for I don't know I don't know what they're probably for tinder I I guess and almost maybe right but when I report I mean this is a video podcast you're not gonna get away with that right I know when it was an audio form I can get away with being this young handsome man and now the cameras are on it he's this chubby thirty year old but when I reported that to Facebook the questions have to answer is you know I'm are they pretending to be me and and technically they're not they are presenting to be they have their own name they're just using my pictures and then so the only thing I could potentially say is well that that's more like intellectual property thing that using images that I've taken without permission but that isn't Facebook's issue in the same way as our Instagram there's no easy way of if someone reposts your picture without crediting you is no easy way of getting that taken down you're going to go to a whole other place to report that you can report it as being inappropriate as in they've posted porn or something or that it's spam and it's just like a box that's annoying but there's no way of saying this account has stolen my picture hmm and that's kind of the issue that I have with Facebook so I'm hoping that their Supreme Court would allow for this set for the same thing where I can go and say well actually this is what they've done and that's a real problem well I mean he hasn't elaborated on that but I would also hope that that would be the case too and I think just I think we can expect to hear a lot more of this from him over the coming months he's mentioned this this idea twice in these words now which means that you know he's kind of planted the seed and I imagine that will help you kind of keep bringing it up and it's something that we'll see Facebook established in their not-too-distant future and hopefully that will be one of the features but you know overall I think Mark Zuckerberg he he's really really had a really nice time in France command did he go running as he goes running that was a bit of a thing that he did a few years ago it was a special project he has he has these kind of special projects and one of them was running in lots of different cities all over the world and then the Supreme Court idea is another one and you know for another one he tried to learn Mandarin I don't think you did learn Mandarin very well and he tried to build an AI Butler for his home ok is he still killing some million eating only the things he project I'm not sure is there gonna be a is there gonna be a UK show in this tour that he's doing of going around apologizing to people well interesting you should ask that because actually the politicians over here really hope that he comes to the UK I spoke to him you know he don't waste he's provided evidence now to Congress in the u.s. to the European Parliament and you know they we have a fake news inquiry currently ongoing in Parliament hearing it's according to the quarry into fake news yes no they thought inquiry the dissipate news yes just so clearly yes and he this Enquirer has been going on since last July say way before that Cambridge journalistic a scandal broke obviously Facebook has always been a kind of central component to it but ever since we found out about the you know dead Facebook personal user data being mishandled and it's become even more pressing that they would really you know they've spoken to other people at Facebook you know the CTO Mike Schroepfer came over here and gay evidence to Parliament but they really very they think that there are only questions that Mark Zuckerberg can answer and the buck does stop with him and he said that and his colleagues have said that and I spoke to Damien Collins who's the MP no relation he's the MP he was the chair of the committee that's Manning this inquiry and he he told me you know that he thinks that Zuckerberg has a duty to come to the UK because you know this is where the story broke it involves British researchers British universities British newspapers British a British company Cambridge on the list ago is based here after something to be proud of who said we're not important on the world stage yeah and also potentially could influence breaks it exactly so you know he so so Damon Collins is adamant that Mark Zuckerberg should come here and he's still considering you know potentially issuing a formal summons for him it's just poking come on this friend requests been ignored so that interview is on you interested any concept you want quick access to its pin to the top of my Twitter feed at the moment so you can go in there and have a look to see what he says he's really kind of quite dynamic politician at the moment making lots of headlines so yeah well sounds interesting we'll see what else comes out of that but for now we're going to move on to WWDC which is of course Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference by worldwide I mean only in California so much more exciting for us because we didn't actually have to go so we're not cynical about it no yeah I didn't even watch the keynotes on the first on the handle in a while I was no we watched every minute of it we were very excited about salmon day we picked it apart we discussed it on Twitter with our colleagues I was stroking my cat I noticed that it was loud it was about just some little things no major announcements it was more about polishes that are you really much great existing products a bit better yes basically so the thanks rich there the theme really of WWDC this year was not about big major updates we didn't see any no new hardware of any kind often we will see some bits and bobs coming home pod year we've had watches and an iPad to match something we've had nothing this time round instead it's been about sort of smaller changes to refine what's already there and I think well a few things for example now I'll see how groundbreaking you find this ok me moji me mochi mochi that's like emojis mama it is exactly like whatever that thing is you just said it's basically an emoji which Apple brought out last year which is the talking faces that uses the front their face tracking tech on the front of the iPhone X - turn to animate this emoji as you're talking but now basically you can create your self in an emoji form you can create the hair and you can sculpt it to be one of you look like basically what Samsung did with an emoji on the galaxy s 9 to a launch nd BC but crucially hopefully it's not crap you know let's not forget the original source of this idea which clearly was bitmoji which is now owned by snap oh yeah with the moji yeah which I still think you know I haven't actually used I've used Samsung's version of this feature a are emoji and but I haven't haven't tried apples yet but to be honest from what I've seen I still prefer bitmoji in the same way but maybe you'll like me merging than in that case because Samsung's version we use it quite a lot MT BC and there is a couple of videos that we made where we we turned it into a game show I think you were on on that game show actually where I would create a celebrity in anime in in a are emoji form it's so catchy yeah if I can't remember which of the emojis did things and and seeing people can guess them and it is quite difficult and the face tracking on the sampson didn't really work all that well so i'm looking forward to kind of seeing what Apple does it looks like you can customize yourself a lot more some other stuff that they've got on FaceTime you can now have FaceTime or you will be able to have FaceTime group conversations with 32 people at once oh I've just been waiting for that - for so long well I don't have that many friends but what about they can just what about remote working yes that's that's what I think is exciting about this is that it gives you the option of because we all have bosses who are all around the world yours is in New York mine's in New York yours is San Francisco I think yeah so it's in Dublin yeah all over the world it means you can have these meetings where you're face to face I mean yeah time zones are still in issue so if haven't been find a way to somehow time shift these meetings using time travel presumably then great but and yeah go for families as well as big families extended families people who got it around the world I'm on board with video chat I have no idea what the the kind of the bandwidth requirements would be on the quality I think quite low I mean because FaceTime already is quite low I think maybe like a minimum of like one Meg right I say maybe not even that much and I think the idea is that having more people on that call doesn't mean something you need 32 Meg in order to do it because it's done it's handled in different ways so I think the demands shouldn't be much more the demands are largely on your up plates for you to put in your right face out there rather than receiving the ones coming in other things we've got as well is there more pushes on a are kits which is Apple's own development platform for augmented reality things with a Orkut to basically to make it more easily usable by developers surfing's coming in MacBooks both of you have those I'm saying there is a new Mac OS Mojave of course named again after areas of California which is what they're doing after High Sierra etc Tim Cook himself said that we're excited to take the Mac a huge leap forward I don't agree versus usually so we've got dark mode which basically gives it a dark look if you're using it at night so you don't have a bright screen staring at you I don't get that all I mean if it's an accessibility feature if it's people with vision impairments or astigmatism or anything like that then fair enough then that's definite feature that should be offered if you just want to lie in bed with your laptop so go to bed yeah to sleep it's it's late you've been on your laptop for too long it's hurting your eyes it's time to put if you're in college just go to sleep we'll take this clip cut this clip but that Apple should just have this clip appear on phones at 10:00 p.m. are you one of those people that has the phone on at night when you embed it and it's glaring at you interface yeah oh yeah yeah I do try I do put it on night mode you know change the screen color and trying to turn the brightness down but you know it's still quite intrusive I think yeah so we've had also some other interface tweaks episode refreshed app store which is going to have some like curated content kinda like they've done with the iOS App Store which I think it's kind of nice I don't say no hardware but I do want to touch on the fact that there is a promise of quite a lot of iPhones coming later and how many well potentially three or more on iPhones be gone say you want three or more because that's how many it might be for a perfect this prediction that's how many it might be um because we may have the iPhone se - now the SE remember is the the smaller version basically the iPhone 5 body but with modern specs whether a couple of rumors about that phone firstly it may be look exactly the same the exactly the same casing screen size everything but just we've beefed up internal stuff and prolly bought a camera but also we may see you the iPhone X S II so the iPhone X style but with but as a smaller form factor phone so basically think stretch screen so tiny bezels with the knotch but but a smaller phone well they just call it the X even I don't know no you can't put yeah and then we may also see the XE sort of the iPhone X plus so that would be a much bigger version potentially up to 6.5 inches which was the biggest iPhone with with ever seen it would be unnecesarry potentially but it would make it a much more more of a rival to me like Samsung's Galaxy Note which is particularly important because there are rumors that that phone would allow for Apple pencil stylus support which is a rumor we've had before on the iPhones but that one could well be the case if is that big you know it will basically make your phone like a little notebook and you can quickly do some notes that could be quite nice and I presume they may also do a maybe a half-size version of the Apple pencil so you can easily slip it in your pocket even more likely to you to lose it yeah yeah so that's pretty much sure and that's that's it for Hardware upcoming wise so I think there's a lot to look forward to for Apple later to you and that's what we'll see in September as always because that's when it does its main iPhone launch September there's a cup of it there's a couple other things there's the intelligent tracking prevention which is all about stopping social media buttons and widgets and commenting the systems and that kind of thing from tracking you around the web which is quite cool obviously very very topical but I think probably my favorite has to be the that some some iOS apps can now work on on Macs yeah which is kind of cool to get like a little kind of cut down almost like a widget II version of the app but they started with stocks like people have been trying to get stocks to delete it off their phones for 10 years and now they're like no we're not gonna let you do that but now you can have it on your computer and it's a default stocks is a default upon all my cell phone oh yeah I don't think you can I think they brought in like a couple years ago they were like yeah finally you can delete stocks I just want to know like what the because they must have done some market research these companies on why they should have by default this stocks out but I've never believed some people must use yeah and if otherwise they wouldn't be nothing what have I been emptying well I wanted to do a quick nod towards the 1 + 6 because it's a phone that has launched since we last podcasted and it is currently what we would say is definitely the best sort of mid-range phone around that it's the usual thing of extremely them right now you have someone hamster must have given that to you points to himself catfished by someone you do get catfished it one yeah someone intend to look like me I got a phone out of it yeah with all / six yet is again like great phone great performance and cut down price but I took it with me to to France to photograph the bugatti chiron which is a three million pound hypercar one of the fastest production cars in the world which is amazing I'm doing a whole feature about the Bugatti which you'll see on Sina at a later date but I did this piece on how to photograph the car using just the phone and which has been really really popular on Sina and I've sort of wanted to kind of point out that that is there because it was a really cool really cool shoots of how I use the phone because basically to take a rolling shot of the car you know the sort of the image will put the image on screen so people who are watching it can see it but in audio form I'll describe it in that when you see the car on the road the road is blurred so you put the car is pin-sharp a real sense of motion that dynamic shot of a of a performance car really speeding down the road but to do that you need to use a slow shutter speed and you can't do that with phones without it going far too bright because letting in too much light little trick you buy a piece of neutral density filter paper which is basically like sunglasses for a lens cuts out a little square and just duct-tape it crudely over the lens I mean you can do in manual mode that slow shutter shot and I still get the light it cost 50 P for that little piece of stuff to put over and it let me take this really awesome shot of the Bugatti which I'm the sort of shot that I would never thought I could take on the phone and the how to do that is in the article it is in there who can you actually get little sunglasses are they like little squares they're all kind of I imagine we like big green novelty sunglasses that you put on your phone yeah but that's basically that's what you're thinking yeah and it's got the fake nose and mustache relate as well so you could disguise your phone as some thanks I'll let some good tips in there it's a great photos yes you have a gun have a look thank you and I also shot the rolls-royce dawn with that phone so ever some cool shots in there of kind of what to keep in mind if you're interested in taking photos a podcast one of my favorite things about that story is that is it the rolls-royce one where you kind of drove up into the mountains on your own where no one knew where you were and then climbed on wet logs to take some photos that actually was the McLaren 572 when I was because I was driving a road trip back from Switzerland and yeah I think that's really dangerous because I climbed on this bit I would agree I I eventually managed to persuade Andy to share his location with me on his iPhone right and because he was you know he was all over the place so he wasn't really in contact much and didn't have loads of signal and and I was driving my phone somebody needs to know where he is I think I think little free sort of danger is what made that story even more interesting for me but they go key tips the danger is also taking a quarter million pound supercar on snow-covered roads through mountain passes and power sliding on corners that's funny I'm not no we'll pass it over to you rich because we need to touch on the culture going riddles and excitement why do how about we go to a theme park for the dinosaurs well we can't but what we can do is we can watch Jurassic world fallen Kingdom which is out this weekend so yeah and I quite enjoyed it it's quite fun it's the I think I liked it better like the first Jurassic world which was itself a reboot the original Jurassic Park and yeah fallen Kingdom is good it's a it's quite good for us if you're listening in the UK because it comes out it's already out here and it's not coming out in the US for another couple of weeks so if you have any American friends you can go and see it and then lord it over them with your dinosaur is so exciting and excitement remember the days when films used to come out in the u.s. six months before they came out here now we're having our revenge yeah exactly this sort of gets a secondary but just quick you're talking about Jurassic world I liked it a lot it's um it's it's got this kind of interesting almost like key change in the middle of it it starts off as a Jurassic Park movie they have to go back to the island again and they go to the island Chris Pratt Bryce Dallas Howard some some nerdy scientist go to their the famous island and they run around in the forest and they're chased by dinosaurs and there's a scene where they've got her like go into a bunker and flip a switch and there's a dinosaur chasing luminous I'm over the furniture and all that kind of you know that kind of excitement and action-adventure and then Will Smith comes in and the aliens arrive and it suddenly men in black yeah I'm anyone starts rapping oh yeah it's great everybody forgets everything that's happened up to then no they did there actually is this like we're change it becomes a very different movie they kind of were giving too much away going too much into it they kind of they leave the island and and it becomes a very different almost horror movie and it's an inch it's it's like something I don't think you've really seen in Jurassic Park movies before or at least it's like focusing in on elements of Jurassic Park that we haven't had a whole movie based around like suspense in tension so has always been there but stuff that was certainly missing from the first Jurassic world movie so if you if you didn't think the Jurassic world had enough kind of scares and tension and suspense and this is where we gonna be the feel for you but do you think people if people are going you know diehard fans of original Jurassic diehard fans okay fans yeah of original Jurassic Park yeah and classic grassy park are they going to like this sounds like the sort of thing that they would complain about you know oh it's not this is very different sort of thing they might like it more because it's moving away from the original and not trying to replicate something that can't really be replicated well yeah one thing that's good that's kind of that's sort of struck me is the on paper it's very very similar to the first Jurassic Park sequel which was the lost world like it has a very similar sort of stretch to it but it's done in a very different way and what are things I like about it is with this kind of change halfway through the movie where it kind of transitions into a different kind of movie and then leads up to a big ending that kind of that takes the franchise forward in a way that none of the previous sequels ever have that the sequels have always previously been they go to the island there's a new dinosaur there's some slight different people in it that's kind of it at the end of it it's basically the same as what happened what's happened by the star like the world they exist in was basically so but this is more like something like the recent Planet the Apes movies or an or even the last Jedi in the way that it kind of turns the store at the franchise upside down and the series upside down and well yeah whether you like that or not I know where we original fans go for that or not I don't know but it does mean that when they go for Jurassic world 3 which is not gonna be for another three years so your long long way to wait but that is going to be a very very different movie and that will definitely be a movie that is unlike anything you've ever seen in the Jurassic world drastic park is the Chris Pratt still in it Chris Pratt isn't it does he do that you know hand out to the Raptors yeah whoa boy whoa yeah chill yeah just take a breather have some ice over this there's one and he's us there's one particular bit of it again coming so going to too much there's a bit of physical comedy in it which is one of the weirdest and possibly funniest things I've seen in a summer blockbuster for quite a while so I so look out for that I really enjoyed a lot of Chris Pratt's physical comedy in Parks and Rec you know there was some real kind of I mean there was real moments there so if it's anything like those I can imagine it jarring quite a lot but at the same time anything that brings more of that I'd be happy to see yes Chris Pratt seems intent on sort of reimagining himself as serious action hero rather than lovable Andy Dwyer ya know they said this doesn't take itself particularly seriously although having said that there is some subtext there is a majestic Park was always about kind of the intersection of science and humanity and but the original movies they were that you know that was that famous line they were always so concerned with whether they could they didn't stop to think when they should talking about scientists like where they write to to interfere with genetics and then but this by the time this movie's coming audience always has this kind of like nihilistic take on it which has moved a step past that which is not that is it right to do these things but this does happened and we've got to deal with it so it kind of plays into climate change particularly because the way the movie is about some climate change stuff going on there but also just generally the idea of like you know going back to Facebook and going back to all these things that they weren't supposed to do what they did but now they have so how do we fix it unintended exactly how do we deal with these unintended consequences which is I mean it's not done a particularly heavy way it's not like it's gonna bore the kids but it's kind of an interesting again a step on from the original original early movies the kingdom which is apparently fallen as per the title is that the kingdom of the dinosaurs or the kingdom of men I mean I would say that is probably one of those things where they think of the title first and then they announced that the release date in the title and then they write the script because I would have to wonder there's probably all American if at all there's no Kings there's no but there's a bit of I mean some stuff falls off some other stuff there's also loads of dinosaurs in this one as well actually just I mean just from a similar dance just yeah there's probably more dinosaurs because they've come in there CGI so you might not love them as much as like the original animatronic ones but there's so many which might stuff and let's just loads them loads dancers running around loads different diets I don't say for Jurassic Park movie yeah I think if the original Jurassic Park and there's only something you actually what if you actually count it there is something like 17 minutes of dinosaurs and it was another 17 minutes of CGI or something probably they they lean a lot more heavily on the anticipation yeah yeah they're kind of the noises and the sound effects in there hmm and it makes you think that it's more than that yeah you can when you see the whole dinosaur in in that when you counting those minutes or does this a bit where you just see that velociraptors clawed sort of doing does that not count because you're only seeing like 0.5% of a dinosaur yeah CDC lot a lot of dinosaurs in this which is nice and sometimes those that I have no idea what their names were just kind of running around to having fun I'd get presumed they don't know because are they still ones that they've created is the original Jurassic Park there are real dinosaurs and it was all about how great they were and then Jurassic world comes out and it suddenly I know no real dinosaurs aren't good enough no one likes them they're boring so we've we've created some stupid a race yeah very there is a bit of that unfortunately booked them anyway and so that's drastic world that I quite enjoyed it yeah that's what I had a chat to Colin Trevorrow the guy who wrote it as well interesting enough and he had some interesting things to say about the kind of the experimental structure of writing up like a summer family action based blockbuster that actually is a bit experimental and that has this weird structure like halfway through it okay it takes an interesting left turn then becomes unexpectedly different movie so you can look out for that on cnn.com and but yeah also we're so going back to what we talked about before about the gap of being able to lord it over americans with their with with our jurassic world spoilers no don't don't spoil jurassic world don't don't tell them coming up soon we're all very excited to see the next model movie ant-man and the wasp but it's coming out in the US on July the 6th and in Australia on July the 5th and it's not coming out over here until the 3rd of August we have to pick a month we have to wait a month because the World Cup because Owen about you but I can't watch two things at the same time in the same month and not be and be sufficiently thrilled by both of them I'm appalled by this I think we should start you go petition I mean I I mean if they're a huge crossover audience I guess this is a really big film so there probably is but you know the people that are really really passionate about it probably they might not be also been to the World Cup i I think you know at some point you're probably gonna want to take a break as well so also why not delay it altogether because currently from wrong but the US and Australia are also in the world they're also in the world and therefore relevant to the World Cup well there you go for some reason Disney is just like nope so that can happen you can wait a month so yeah sorry ant-man and the wasp fans in Britain who are not football fans you will just have to pirate it you just have to work I think it's because watching the World Cup is mandatory in Britain it is actually compulsory for school yeah yeah it's part of our education how to drink tea and watch the World Cup and I only really got one of those things down see if you can guess which anyway so yeah so but there's also more movies coming up Mission Impossible for now all that kind of stuff so look out for those we'll have reviews and that kind of thing coming zing you also have do you see early man which I'm everything out for a long a long time I'm not bringing this up for like recent season the newsworthy stage but largely because I'm really I haven't seen it but should I idea and it's a delight and the thing about that actually that was another movie that was that it came out at the start of this year so it came at the start of the World Cup here and it was it's about cavemen who play football and it just seemed like the most of his wealth carp cash grab but from paper bag its delightfully its Nick Park directing it's a great movie it's you know if your kids want a fun movie about football then then it's great because it is about Kevin and it also has this like there's a whole bunch of really I'm not gonna get to it but there's a whole bunch of really like mad surreal gags that just don't really make any sense but in the context of the film they just keep repeating them until they become funny so yeah I feel that that for me is a good compromise of watching some football this summer season they're not actually watching the football there you go yeah that's perfect cool and there the other things that are coming up at the moment III is going on that's the massive big game show in LA and all of games were out there and all our other friends who write about games all right there loads of big things expected to come out of that so I think you can probably expect a gaming special probably the week after next when the dust has settled on that so if you are into your games which you should be those games are good but not football not against a football no no no you know what you be the World Cup I just wanna be able to watch Ant Man as well do you think England's going to lose pretty much immediately as soon as England go out then Ant Man gets released that's like the tree that's what could happen okay well I'm not no I think we should probably end though where can we find both of you online and we obviously see net but let's get more specific let's talk about social networks okay well I'm at rich underscore Trent home and Instagram 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