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Apple's new AirPods with ‘Hey Siri’ coming this year (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 120)

2018-02-22
hello everybody my name is Steven Beecher producer of the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tom what's up everybody welcome to the show it is episode 120 Apple byte extra crunchy keeping it extra money this is the show where we talk about all things Apple it is our complimentary piece I can't even talk right now complementary supplementary complimentary piece of the Apple byte a weekly show that we just put out a little earlier on Wednesday again this show is all about you all we talk about the stuff we love this stuff but also it's a chance for you guys and gals to call in and be a part of our show so the number to call us at seriously I'm like they've changed a lot of things for me like just freeing me up when I'm eating lunch on the bus I do have like a fear of losing them but they are awesome man that that is that is a great gift so everyone's like why are they giggling like little schoolgirls all right so these new 2018 air pods remember the air pods came out in 2016 they were pretty much sold out online through like July in August so people were always like one year later I'm like are they gonna they asked me are they gonna come out with new everyone's I'm like no they don't need to the demand is so high quite honestly they could even push this out even further if they wanted to but at least what we know according to Bloomberg is the 2018 air pods are going to are expected to come with an upgraded wireless chip that now lets users summon Siri I'm not gonna say the magic word combination but instead of you having to physically tap they the air pods you'll be able to just use your voice to prompt that which is a nice kind of subtle thing I think by doing that also it opens up the fact that we'll be able to do at least more control on the actual air pods themselves the first thing that I saw when I had them is look I wanted more touch control I wanted volume control up and down I want to just be able to like swipe it I don't think they're gonna go that far yet but right right now if you you tap it or you hold it down that's how that's kind of how to prompt Siri the double tap is like the player pause and you can do that on different ears like so this actually opens up the door if voice control is done by Syria that maybe you can actually do single tap holds to do volume up or down on one side of the year or not it allows you to get more control and I think that's the best part about getting this upgraded Wireless chip built in the internally the air pods are known as B 288 so that's cool I think the other thing that many of you I don't know maybe it's just me when I use air pods Beach when you tap on them don't you feel like you have to kind of tap pretty hard that you like almost push them into your ear hole yeah sometimes I am concerned I'm gonna tap my ear to hard but yeah I do like it takes me sometimes four taps but coming back to what you said before are you saying that I can to tap to stop on one side and then on the other side tap for Siri now yeah awesome play yeah oh yeah show called the Apple bite you can watch it if you want start like really tuning into that one in my in my it might be a good idea so here's the other thing that is also interesting about the air pods not only are the air pods expected to release in 2018 bloomberg says Apple is also working on a third iteration of the air pods that are expected to be coming in 2019 this new version will have some level of water resistance yes so you're you're happy about this swimming with my ear pods are you sure are you sweaty ears no I'm not sweaty ears but it'd be nice if you like jump in the pool and still have some jams or like you know maybe go wakeboarding or something or like be on a on a raft in the lake chillin with your ear pods and not have to worry about him I'm not gonna go wakeboarding with freaking air pods in my ears what are you talking about go snowboarding with air pods it's awesome I said yeah well now I haven't done with my air pods but I have snowboarded like listening to music and I love that you know that's that's a false statement that's a full stick your bud earbuds bro I've gone snowboarding with ear pods I'm like you know no no no no no I mean I I misspoke said ear but I should have said it earbuds but you're gonna reel snowboard next weekend with my air pods and I will I will let you know how it goes that's fair enough now the this will have at least two thousand nine teams version again this would be generation three would have some level of water resistant to survive like splashes and maybe even rain even every everything Apple Pro when the iPad air pods guy there's so many things in your head now home pod air pod iPod okay everything Apple Pro did a test with the air pods right when they came out he actually submerge them in water like one foot deep for five minutes in the case and everything and they survived it even put it through a washing machine oh wow and they survived as well to still be working functional ear pieces so Apple never advertised that the air pods are 100% water isn't there probably water resistant to a certain degree but to actually make the claim that these are officially you know whether it's an ip67 rating or whatnot they actually have to make sure they really are and build them to be water resistant so maybe they're gonna call them the air pods sport who knows water pods just didn't work that would be awesome that would be cool cuz I you know they do have to make them so I'm sure people walk in the rain and then their ears get wet and stuff like that so if to make one you know hey Apple by nation what do you think water pods or air pods sport what are you gonna go beach house water pods I kind of like about air pod sport that's BT Z's you need to let us know you need to call us let us know anyways air pods in development the other thing that was cool and talking about the water resistant level of air pods is that apples also had patents that they've been working on we don't know if these are actually gonna come out but the actual air pod case themselves back in April of 2017 patently Apple revealed patent filings from apples specifically detailing air pods case technology and there were kind of two things that stuck out one of them was the ability to use the actual air pod case to wire sleet charged an exterior device like an Apple watch so you could lay your Apple watch on top of the air pods case they have some diagrams and images of that in the article and then the other aspect they're talking about is actually making again a waterproof actual connector that the receptacle kind of connector that could connect onto the case that was waterproof as well so these are apples looking at this but again this is Apple putting their spin I know that for sure the air pods are not going to change how they look yeah and I think the hook is here to stay the look is here to stay III ranted and raved about it for probably a year I'm gonna go out and tell you right now moving forward one of my new year's resolutions 2018 I will not complain about how the air pods look did you look silly man cuz when I first put them on dear I walked I like walked home I got home after work whatever and my kids saw me and they're like what are those in your ears like the first thing they're like what are you doing what is that that was a dumbest thing they've ever seen it was funny anyways air pods new air pollen - coming out sometime this year based on reports but again I think this is a proc that Apple can take their married time on because the demand is still there but the hype is I mean people people are still loving it and I'm you know you're someone who just recently got them a few months ago so I'm glad to hear that you enjoy them thoroughly yeah they're awesome man all right next up story that broke this week as well new iPad refresh expected possibly in the next few weeks this comes to us from our friends the French website console mock what they had found is Apple has registered new tablets with the Eurasian Economic Commission that happened this week suggesting that an iPad refresh is likely coming very soon it could even be a few away why do we know this so first of all the filings are required for any devices with any type of encryption that are sold in Armenia Belarus Kazakhstan Fritz Gaston and Russia donations thanks bro if I mispronounce them you know someone's the trolls coming out don't even worry about it always I apologize if I butchered to any of those I'm pretty sure I did alright so what's interesting about this filing is there's this chart it's like a lot of numbers and whatnot there are two tablet model numbers that we have never seen a one eight nine three and a one nine five four that are described as running iOS 11 with no actual description of what type of tablet they are so there's other sample tablets and smartphones products listed on this list as well with model numbers that we have never seen starting with a a and C C that's not normal but at the very least it looks like we're expecting to see some type of tablet coming in the next few weeks arguably March and the reason why I say this is every time Apple is filed with the Eurasian Economic Commission the products that have been filed have ended up coming out the next few weeks everything from the air pods to the Apple watch series to the 10.5 inch iPad pro twelve point nine inch iPad pro it's a really strong indication even the MacBook Pro with touch bar it's a strong indication that we are going to see these really soon so we don't know exactly which tablet it is there's been a lot of rumblings obviously we know that an iPad pro with some sort of face ID and limit and skinny bezel is expected to come sometime soon that may be held out until WWDC but what indications are leaning towards more possibly is a cheaper 9.7 iPad a new nine point seven inch iPad but we can also a lot of people keep on asking me what's going on with the iPad Mini I don't think I really feel like the nine point seven inch is now kind of like apples Mini and then they have their 10 inch er and they're twelve point nine inch or I think that's how Apple is kind of breaking this down sorry ten point five inch iPad pro I really think the nine point seven is really kind of more like they're mini and I used my parents mini I mean sorry there are nine point seven inch and I was like dude this thing's small yeah does feel really small yeah I kind of like the smaller ones though I mean the big one yeah it's just big and I'm afraid a little break but I guess the smaller ones I feel like they're gonna break too cuz he they're like just you know flimsy they're not flimsy but they just feel like you could drop them easier I don't know I think I'm just desensitized because I love my twelve point nine inch iPad pro one of my favorite Apple products I'm gonna argue really say all time this is I'm just being real with you but everyone freaks out when they see my iPad they're like dude that's huge I'm like so's the iPad I feel like my iPad third generation is big but I so I have like a massive case on it so my sons don't crack the screen or something yeah but uh that is my favorite Apple product by far we use it constantly airplanes everywhere awesome ultimate travel companion it emit babysitter - I don't yes that's like the ultimate like bribe my children into doing things I like oh if you go do this I'll give you the iPad for 30 minutes you know and they're like okay I'm doing it right now I mean depending on what side of the coin art you're on that's either good parenting or bad parent but I'm not gonna I'm not one to judge I'm not wanting to limit them man they only get like Fridays and uh you know maybe one time if they do something really great that's good I honestly you know what I've see your I stalk you on Instagram and stuff and I really notice your kids are always doing something not they're not on tablets oh yeah yeah yeah you know I don't wanna they already one of them broke my PC a little bit so I don't really let him mess with my PC well they won't even mess with my MacBook they don't want my MacBook they want my touchscreen you want to talk about broken do you think that the Apple spaceship design is flawed I saw this article and the story's amazing honey the headline Apple's new this is Bloomberg who reported this as well but basically Apple employees are walking into the glass walls or glass doors of their new spaceship campus this is an actual story it is real what's basically happening right Apple has these huge 45 foot tall glass doors glass surfaces around there it's seamless it's beautiful but just like in real life they're saying that people who are walking around the Apple Park per se looking down at their phones are literally walking into the glass doors in the walls and it's not like one person it's many people it's enough where some staffers according to this Bloomberg report we're sticking post-it notes on the glass door so people would know like they're actually there but come on you know who is that we're gonna let a post-it note fly or just multi-billion dollar facility or milt no so they did post-it notes that they were putting up to like look out for their common common man were taken down because they distracted from the building's design oh wow oh yeah oh yeah it's great so the people that told Bloomberg about this were not asked to be identified because they don't want it they want Apple to be coming back at them but um it isn't architectural just amazing marvel design it's beautiful but people are walking into the glass that's funny that they that they live in fear of birth of Apple and they don't want to speak publicly about accidentally walking in through a glass wall that's I can't that's crazy but isn't it how how how hilarious is it that it's cuz they're looking at the phones their company made its prax them and then they walk into this freakin glass door that's made thanks to the iPhone finance this building that they're walking into that is funny man that that hurts - you run into a glass window that hurts I'm gonna break a nose or something break your phone the other thing is though a while back I don't know if you remember this but when Apple kind of changed some of the designs of their stores people when they started going with this like well at least when they're rolling out their new stores they're going this is like kind of full open glass concept where they wanted it to feel like the street was directly would walk you lead you right into the store people were walking into the glass facades of Apple stores as well and if you notice now on Apple stores they have these like kind of little frosted glass rectangles or frosted kind of you know yeah a line or a row of them in hopes that people see them so they don't walk into the windows yeah they got to put up some sort of decal or some warning or even just like a light that like reflects off the glass so people can see cuz that's funny man that's a fun category and I mean an old lady I think she was like 80 something years old she actually broke her nose walking in the glass window or pane of the store and sued Apple oh wow they have to put an end to that right away nip down one in the bud that's crazy yeah so just heads up Apple employees if any all lists in the show keep you keep your head on a swivel man all right should we do a little breather to talk about the sponsors of our show that keep the lights on go for it let's do it this episode is brought to you by champ now Jeff now helps you set up manage and protect your Apple devices on demand they've been a good friend of the show and you know what it's pretty easy to keep track of your own Mac iPad or iPhone but what about the other Apple devices in your organization as your business grows so does the collection of its devices making it increasingly difficult to manage everyone's iPad iPhone and iMac this is really true if your employees are in different locations so with 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a fast company puts out their list of the most innovative companies for the year we got a couple callin phone calls about this specifically we're doing the Apple by decra crunchy what what position do you think Apple was in fortune are sorry fast companies top 50 most innovative companies of 2018 I'm looking at it right now number one for delivering the future today which is kind of cool who is that that's what that's what the headline says I didn't say the company Oh Apple I'm sorry did I did I not say Apple Apple is number one again with that tagline let's look at some of the others on this list before we get into this number two Netflix for mastering the smaller screen number three Square for extending the benefits of banking and $0.10 that's overseas company for honoring content is king I'm gonna keep on scrolling through this number five was an Amazon this is one that stuck out to me that was really weird to me number 12 Instagram now it's there their reasoning or their tagline is saying for making people drool what fine but come on dude Instagram Instagram literally hijacked and deliberately carbon copied snapchats functionality and features and then took all it's still happening got all those users now to jump back on Instagram where there was already kind of a developed following people aren't using snapchat nearly as much they're on Instagram Instagram wasn't innovated they straight-up just hijacked and stole features and I'm not saying that Apple is the king of originality as well we we know we all know how the tech role but it was one of the most deliberate ripoffs I've ever seen and you're putting them at 12 for innovative right yeah that's that blows my mind and for making people drool I don't get this I because of all the Instagram like models or something I don't I don't know and that so here's the other thing so I'm not gonna I'm not here to poop on Apple I'm just here to again keep it real cuz people honestly I've just learned that if people don't hear what they want to hear then they think you hate something it's people are dumb about this stuff okay so you fast companies reasoning for why they gave Apple the top spot for most innovative company of 2018 best company says that their ear pods the Apple watch Series 3 AR kit and iPhone 10 were the reasons they were praised for their quote unquote ambitious software and hardware products they also said that Apple's artificial intelligence is a point of advantage for Apple where they have made major inroads despite competition from Google and Amazon all right I'm sorry but are we timeout the same company here like air pods Wireless hit earbuds ok yeah make sense what Apple watch Series 3 was the third year of the product so that's an evolution yes AR kit is more just rolling out the AR tip platform 2 phones but we quite honestly we still haven't seen it take off yet iPhone 10 was another evolution of a product ok that's more evolutionary than innovative if you ask me I'm just saying like evolutionary our innovative would have been creating the Amazon echo yeah the Animas on echo was innovative it was a new product had never been done before and look what it is today that's innovative 7x launching a car in a space I know it's kind of PR II and sounds crazy but everything at Elon Musk is doing is innovative yeah but but not just not the flamethrower I don't think that's innovative but yeah you can totally the SpaceX was down at 14 which blows my mind because I mean the last launch that we watched the Falcon Heavy I watched two rocket boosters land simultaneously together in concert with each other like that was like that was incredible like you know that's something we never seen happen before it should be about least in the top 10 but what's innovative dude I love the Apple watch seriously but that's a third-generation product that took three years to get to that point yeah I mean I don't have much experience with the Apple watch Sirius 3 but the only reason why they got into the Apple watches cuz pebble made the SmartWatch on Kickstarter that blew up that's true like that's where the real innovation started quite honestly the other thing that I find a little funny is when they say ambitious software like dude Apple had the worst software year in 2017 yeah iOS 11 was a disaster Barbie alright so and do we still use these products yeah oh yeah so we totally still use these products when they when they were timeout artificial intelligence as a point of advantage I think there were more referencing some of the privacy that Apple has done to build everything natively with a you know with the secure chip on device but beyond that I mean the actual fundamentals of artificial intelligence an apple is a well behind in that they aren't you can say they're innovating in security for AI but don't say artificial intelligence is a point of advantage for them it's not it's not but it's totally not they're thinking for this year right this is this is for this year well even if their project like see the thing is they're saying for 2018 based on what they've seen from 2017 right they don't know exactly what's coming you can't just guess and say yeah they're the most innovative in 2018 you don't know this this is based on their track record of 2017 are they selling noodles and oodles and tens of millions of products absolutely but that doesn't that doesn't validate to me that a company is innovative yeah a Microsoft Surface studio that thing was freaking innovative Microsoft has although ends going down hololens is pretty awesome like dude come on like but those are the products that we can have that we have now in her hands that's fine though that's innovation of me I mean I guess it depends on how you define innovation and that's that's what they didn't really define and the thing that I joked about in the show is that I said guess who's gonna have the next big exclusive with Apple it's probably gonna be Fast Company and I was totally joking because you're like oh yeah of course there's the guess who on their website the next day put up and I quote in this exclusive interview with Apple CEO Tim Cook explains the culture that an approach that led to iPhone 10 air pods Apple watching home pod Fast Company posted that the next day come on that's funny man this is the press and it whole pod innovative come on guys it's cool I can't argue that I can't say that the home pods innovative because we've seen them many of them before but in terms of just sound quality it is great it sounds awesome can't think of anything else really this is this is the this is depressing me like I like fast company to this is this is the this is like sucking the teat man this is totally sucking off the tee I'm not even I could argue iPhone X because of the face ID and some other things air pods the first two that they mentioned are like yeah I get it but then the last two was like yeah I don't know I don't know I just I think a phone that has a fingerprint sensor under the screen built in is more innovative recycle that's that's what's up okay anyways we'll get off on this just want to let you know though that Apple was called the most innovative company I know people that look even if you're the ultimate fanboy you have to look in the mirror and be honest with yourself and you can't tell me that they're really you really think they're the most innovative company like really it's hard to say not even trying to be a hater I'm just saying do you really think that like when someone says who's the most innovative company do you really think Apple right off the bat now I don't yeah I think a lot of people would agree with you on that like it's hard like I can't even like think of who is the most innovative I would I would say Elon Musk is the most innovative person yeah I would say SpaceX and Tesla like what they're doing now you know they're building all kinds of weird stuff batteries like battery powered homes and things like that so it's it's hard to say right now yeah Elon Musk is definitely the most innovative dude out there he's deaf right he's definitely our current Steve Jobs our generation Steve Jobs yeah and like let that dude make whatever he wants and we'll just go along for the ride that's how it used to be everybody I'm just telling you all these young bucks out there that's how it used to be all right um I owe s 11.3 beta 3 recently released the developers as well as the public beta users one big omission this time around though airplay to once part of the second beta airplay to functionality no longer in this third beta it's been completely removed why is that a big deal well we obviously know airplay 2 is gonna be a key component to the home pod to finally bring stereo sound which would allow you to take to home pods and use them in concert with each other as well as have them be your primary speakers for your Apple TV if you want that the other thing is that multi room speaker support will not be there as well in the beta 2 you could actually even at least at the very least add an Apple TV as multiple Apple TVs so you could play amuse to two different Apple TVs in two different rooms if you wanted to that was actually capable in the beta 2 yeah it was a little buggy and whatnot and the full functionality wasn't there but they've completely removed it from iOS 11.3 beta 3 which also makes me wonder will we see in the fourth beta or is it gonna get pushed out even further if it's not even primetime ready to roll in a beta that that remains to be seen and we don't know the timeline of when airplay 2 is officially going to roll out but uh we'll just have to wait and see I think was just to bring up that I thought was a little interesting all right I'm gonna try and pronounce this correctly because people said I didn't really pronounce it correctly but we also saw how Apple released the 11 I Oh s eleven point two point six update which is their eleventh iOS 11 update to date just want to put that out there seriously yeah seriously so it um if you remember this was had to do with an Indian character from the Indian language telugu Telugu I called it first Telugu but it's Telugu from all indications you can correct me again cuz we're not we aren't the pronunciation experts here even English I have trouble with that apology but there was this character bug that caused iOS devices to crash if it was used in messaging app so some jerks would sometimes like send it from an Android phone to him heigh-ho ass bone and cause the apps to crash anyways that has been fixed with the latest update to eleven point two point six with some other bug updates speaking of software WWDC 2018 possibly targeting June the 4th through the 8th MacRumors reports from their own sources that they have heard it will return to San Jose McHenry Convention Center and basically the entire month is booked out except for that first week of June which would be a prime candidate for Apple and WWDC to drop so we know that the actual way to get into WWDC is through a lottery so you have to sign up online and cost somewhere around fifteen hundred dollars it's not a guarantee to get in but a that is expected to be June 4th through June 8th so a beach you cannot take a vacation during that week okay to let you know who Nadine that will be here I'm sorry June 8 did you need I mean shoot I've got I've been on vacation sometimes during those announcements it's the way it is yeah I did that on accident one time I think summer oh yeah I think you did one time they were all right in this sketch rumor for the week possible chinese website QQ calm says the and this is very really unsubstantiated but i'm just gonna throw it out there the iphone s to so many of you asked about this according this report very keep it this takes to a grain of salt it will debut at WWDC with the same kind of classic metal frame design but with a larger 4.2 inch display instead of it's four inch display cool sure it'll have a faster processor again the thing about this is all other reports and indications say that Apple isn't actively working on a new iPhone se at least from the manufacturing standpoint which would make it hard for them to see it come out in or even be announced at WWDC even a Ming Chi quote from KGI security said Apple just doesn't even have the bandwidth to build a new phone and there's no indications that they are like a new form factor period really with the launch of the iPhone 10 and everything like that so with what is already on their plate so we'll see what happens there well there's Samet they're slowing down the iPhone 10 oh yeah Billy so maybe they're trying to make room for the SE 2 because the first se was so popular oh yeah and just two quick stories Apple TV content we'd like to make fun of it carpool karaoke season 2 is is coming oh so I gotta tell you this so I got a home pod right the test and everything and obviously I signed up for Apple music and I get it like if you're in the Apple ecosystem Apple music is nice because you can just like talk to directly at pull songs but what I found really frustrating they're gonna really need to clean this up is watching video content through the Apple music service is absolutely stupid like it's in its own random section it's they just throw up all these different videos there's no organization to it it's just it's just really messy I would have no idea where to find that if I went on Apple music right now just I would be so lost I mean using iTunes I jumped into first I had to go into the music area and then it's not in for you because that's where all your music is so then you have to go in to browse and then under browse there's five different selections new music playlist TV and movies top charts and genres it's if there'd have to clean it's buried and they're gonna have to clean this up a lot like I thought it would be really easy and right in your face to find it wasn't and so they're gonna really have to do something about it they're gonna if Apple is building their content I'm sure they're gonna launch something else but when I kept on hearing that they were hoping to bundle their new shows and put it within Apple music a it just doesn't make sense B as it stands right now it's super messy and not even clean to get into it's gonna have to be its own app or its own section on the iTunes you know in iTunes but they can't this can't live in Apple music at least the way it is right now it's really bad it's bad yeah you you'd figure it would be an Apple TV I know I don't get it I still don't get why that what they're OK you know what the reasoning is behind that put it in a section in the watch app that they have it just put it somewhere an Apple TVs watch app that makes that obviously makes more sense so we'll see how they how they navigate that but two new shows a Apple is working with my boy not really NBA star Kevin Durant KD KD KD j5 on a new show called swagger based on cadiz youth and growing up through the AAU system playing basketball and all those kind of struggles and trials in competition and all the stuff that happens in that so it's kind of like growing up to be a basketball star it's like hoop dreams but based more on Kevin Durant's life and experiences but also probably more fictional characters I don't know I think it sounds kind of that's one show that I would watch but see it's funny I say oh I would watch that everyone listens like I would not watch that this is interesting it's kind of neat yeah but like we're not gonna find it I don't know where honestly I'm not gonna pay 10 bucks to watch that I just not gonna pay 10 bucks a month for that umm and then yeah carpool karaoke season two is coming so there you have it those are big stories for the week we have our voice mail so I say let's jump into it and get it rolling let's do it thank you guys all for calling we had a bunch of good calls this morning couple that I had to bump them because the the sound quality was just not up to par come on oh yeah okay so let's start number one here we go I have an idea body contact I mean this is what the teacher is going to be able to comfort them I would say that is really nice yeah I think there will become public at some point will become like more than ample if you some more Thomas and what people have to buy it more than one device maybe like four times for them all over the house and then if they have like any recuerdo they won't have to worry about like where the comfort will be located at you will just say history I need to say that yeah that's my kind of like hopes for the future comfort it absolutely wanted to be pretty cool anyway sighs you like have fun make control and thanks so much I mean nobody think about thanks for calling man um I will let you know what I think about I mean it's exactly what Amazon and Google are already doing with their echo dots and Google home minis oh yeah you know having multiple devices spread around the house so it's a ubiquitous thing look there's gonna be a point in time down the road where these things will like be built into our light fixtures and we'll just talk and we won't even have something plugged into like a little corner that's like so awesome you just your home will have it built into the home in some way shape or form it's not gonna actually even be a speaker device per se so yeah you are right but at the same time Apple won't be the first to come up with it's already literally being done we've got plenty of people that call that own multiple dots or multiple home minis and it's pretty sweet so yeah I got a couple dots and they're like so small to like I can imagine them to get even smaller but they're so small they're not in my way and they're not like intrusive I mean they are listening to my my whole family all the time that's a risk I'm willing to take I guess right now we all are all right here's another call but this is a call from Everton grants in England London basically this is a call for the HomePath pod basically I was wondering if they were able to connect it to the Apple TV because / - I would like to be able to have it on my Apple TV fourth generation and if they can do it that way I can play my music through through through it that way yeah do they do that now yeah you bald they don't do that now but the plan is for you to be able to take to home pods and play them in stereo and connect them to your Apple TV and play those play those songs the functionality is not there yet but Apple teased it when they first announced the home pods it'll be a software update and it will happen so if that's your dream I think it was Elton your dream is coming true whenever Apple decides to release it you also in the when he before he said home party said home pad I thought that was kind of cool home pad Apple needs to come up with a new product called the home pad man it's my crib man it's my home pad that's just like a whole whole house Apple house the home pad all right here we go here's another one this is short hey this is a mr. peacock here brought your podcast all the time maybe you could do some checking out do you have any plans I'm making a new version of the iPod touch I know nothing's being said about that maybe you can do some checking that out and I'll look forward for that in your next extra crunchy podcast thank you know what I really think so first of all right we know Apple has basically gotten out of the iPod Touch business I mean starting at the iPod business but I think what's really happening more and more is that people are ending up using their old phones and turning them into iPod Touches like apples not using them anymore and these products are still more than good enough to do games surf the web and so more than anything I think our old phones are becoming ipod touches that are hand down to like kids or whatnot and that's what's happening out and quite honestly people there's like a really like there's a group of people that really want these but I think you know what just hand down your phone and give it to your kids or significant others that want an iPod touch and and that's really what it is these days yeah totally and there you can get them for super cheap now to go on eBay and stuff like yeah they're also becoming a lot of people are just turning them into security cameras as you can it's easy okay here we got one one last call very short one speech and song Tom and Ocracoke Island North Carolina hey Brian you wouldn't have to worry about scammer at home let's just like to work bye use that mark look I'm working it's just that I come in to I bounce between two cities now so I can't always be there okay I know people like it when we're actually in the same room which I do too but the show is still still rolling just fine yeah we still have a conversation I think they're just the audio quality of all is a little different so I think that's what people don't don't you think we could ever do one with a FaceTime audio let's try it cuz FaceTime audio is is superior definitely pipe sleep we should give it a shot one time yeah let's try to I'll figure out how to make that happen okay okay I'm gonna need another Mac book to make that happen I just just asked for it man just asked for it I will no request to it alright everybody hey thanks so much for coming out and listening as usual we really appreciate all the love and all like the fact that you call in and you're a part of the show and you just keep it rolling thank you so much the number again to be a part of it Apple by nation extra crunchy 1-866 2 6 3 8 your name where you're from and what you want to talk about we're here all right beeps that's gonna do it 120 we wrap this up yeah 1 20 20 20 20 all right everybody take care have a great weekend we'll see you next week or I guess dependent when you listen you might hear us like back-to-back take care be safe peace this episode is brought 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