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Apple's working on an Echo-like smart speaker of its own. (Extra Crunchy, Ep. 82)

2017-04-28
we're alive my name is Stephen Vito I'm coming to you from San Francisco and on the Skype with me is mr. Brian Tong host of the Apple byte extra country podcast what up everybody welcome to the show it is episode 82 that was a more kind of warm casual introduction that was a weird one yeah I like two of them have been kind of weird but you know I'm okay with it you're running cuz you're in another place so I'm used to saying we're here I know oh I'll get you hyped up next time I'm back in town alright everybody welcome to show it is episode 82 of Apple white extra crunchy this is again our complementary piece to the Apple byte video podcast and the reason why we do this show people are like oh people that are complaining on video about this with some show this is an audio podcast it's actually meant to be audio we just put it up on video just because we can so all you haters shut up shut up shut up okay that's not very nice to me let's get to the show and again it's all about you all call us be a part of this contribute your thoughts your opinions whether you agree with what we say or not or just what you think in general to run a variant of iOS in a following supporting report from Sonny himself they also said that the design of this could kind of look like the Mac Pro which makes sense huh that a cylinder-shaped charger okay yeah Apple echo type looking right right doesn't that make sense though yeah totally they all they all kind of have a round everything looks like a thermos now like all these speakers they all look like thermoses it's weird like you can drink drink fluid out of them or something I don't know we're in the age of the cylindrical long device in other reports like the information is really what kind of started the information which is a website a tech website but you do have to subscribe to get into its information huh the website itself said act Apple is actively developing the product that would compete with the Amazon echo and Google home citing their sources with direct knowledge of their plans it says it would include again a speaker a microphone that could be used for features like we know about this listening to music getting news headlines and more things like that in addition to that this is kind of a big thing and they really need to do this Apple is planning to improve Siri by opening the voice assistant to outside developers for those of you that are on iOS they've been very specific with the partners and third-party apps that they'll allow to access Siri and use it it's not like hey everyone go and get Siri that is one of the reasons why the Amazon echo was so successful they straight-up put out their api's let developers jump in to let Joe Schmoe whoever that is that created that Amazon app where I can just listen to oh Sh in music like the ambient sound some somebody just did that because Amazon will let them do it that's not like Apple but oh my gosh when we went to CES Alexa was in everything it was in like every speaker you could see you could think of it was everywhere was in cars it was in you know media players like it was it was everywhere so hopefully the same thing happens with Siri they're even doing more integrate like appliances right the overlap oh yeah we refrigerators so the information report also says like Apple plans to require developers to use the tool responsibly translation we are going to specifically control who we allow to use this device whenever it comes out so the SDK the developer kit most likely will be introduced sometime it's got to be WWDC if you ask me apples already almost two years behind on this smart speaker although some of the reports were like hey Apple has been working on this before the Amazon echo well not only did the Amazon echo come out before it it's already a damn good product oh yeah and the biggest thing that you know you could say oh where's the Amazon echo behind it's not with third party partners it's just the fact that the Google algorithm exists out there that is smarter than anyone and then also Google just updated their Google home to support up to six users with different voices so it can identify the voice and match that with your profile so now you can do things like hear your own personal calendar right that that never that doesn't exist on any device other than that Google home right now so I think not only does Apple have to catch up in that space third party partners apps which let's be honest amazon skills or I think they have somewhere around like 10,000 something crazy right if Apple's gonna be this controlling they're not gonna have that many third-party partners right out the gates and the biggest thing is Siri has to get better yes Siri Siri is pretty slow right Siri isn't as smart it's just not as good it's good enough don't get me wrong but it has to be smarter so when I look at hearing about this and I want to hear what you all think remember this is a show that's all about you if you can write your comments in the live stream right now or call us at what else what other than maybe being linked to your Apple ecosystem which is a little compelling what other than that is going to make it that much better you can tell it you can ask it where's my iPhone and then it'll it'll like beep your iPhone for you or something that's going to be the bell and whistle that everyone wants so check this out you want me to tell you something let me tell you something cool good there is a skill using um the IFFT or the IFTTT platform if this then that yeah and an Amazon uh echo that will actually send a call to your phone to find it ok ready now it's not find my iPhone where if it's turned off an alarm goes off but they've even someone's already come up with something like that you know again it's not directly linked to Apple's because Apple would never let anyone get direct access like that but I I'm just curious I mean Beecham what what would they have to do do you have an echo you do yeah I have an echo I use all the time mainly just to turn on lights play music timer timer stuff like that stuff like I would do with Siri but now you know I do it with the echo because I don't really have to touch anything or reach em you don't have to reach for your phone it's just there yeah yeah like I have to turn it off before we do this podcast otherwise it's gonna go off totally so yeah I mean I don't know what they would do they'd have to really do something compelling put some sort of feature in there that makes us all want to buy it but right now I'm not and not at all interested in the Apple thing until I see it and see what it has to offer you know I mean other hooks that they could do look there was this idea of thinking that they should have just made something like their Apple TV box an echo slash Apple TV box but all the reports are indicating that it's just going to be a echo like speaker that that would have been really compelling because but look this new Apple let's just call it the Apple echo for now just for poops just for shits and giggles the the Apple echo like guy if it could link to some of those apps or the the watch now happens you could say hey I want to watch the flash and it turned on your TV jump to that show you know stuff like that would be very compelling definitely just literally don't say turn on my TV and then navigate it just say your TV's off Apple blah I want to watch the flash and it goes directly the last step stuff like that could be interesting but again prices in a consideration are they gonna make it cheaper than the echo no most likely not know like I really love the echo yeah that goes cool like if they can marry all those things together video music voice commands if they can marry it all together then that would be very compelling cuz right now have a chromecast for different things and then I have the echo for different things and it would be cool if the echo I think actually Amazon does make something that is like echo for video right I think so I might be wrong someone will someone will correct me but if they could do that that would be awesome so again it like we've always said it comes down to the ecosystem the power of the ecosystem means something right yeah it just it we we are married to these things and it takes a lot for a person no matter how amazing the device is it still takes a lot for person to then say I'm going to change over so we'll see what happens I mean there's even reports that a new echo is coming out really soon with an actual built-in screen like a video screen yes and curious what that's gonna be like yeah and it could be on deck for next month um it's codenamed Knight and it could even be used for video chats like we have our phones but there's there is something again I don't know what that doesn't sound super compelling to me but it's interesting because because echo has created this new space and really put a name to it a face to it and people are buying it so I'm always curious with what they're doing the one thing though that kind of threw me off but then I'm gonna I'm tell you I kind of like this in a sick way you saw did you see that echo look product that they just announced yeah yeah totally I would never put that in my bedroom never ever okay so here I'm thinking about this okay I'm gonna keep an open mind so for those of you who don't know the echo look is basically another iteration of their echo platform but it's a a camera basically that has all of echos functionality so it's it has that speaker capability but it has a full large it's like a rectangular overly pill shape it stands vertical and as a camera and what you can do is it you can stand in front of it it blurs out the background like kind of a bouquet effect not as good and then you can take pictures of your wardrobe and then log it like every day and select favorite outfits and then maybe sick oh I like that combo remember that I first yeah the ad that they put out the video has like 80% looks like four women and one guy but I'm kind of one of those guys because I have two that might that might I've never done oh TD but this could be my personal OTD without anyone knowing yeah you know OTD right yeah I don't know actually tell me what that implies no if you hashtag OOTD it's outfit of the day a lot of letter weights you into themselves do you have tag OOTD because they think they fly that is funny no I just see like so many security risk was with this you know like there's a camera in your house taking pictures of you you know it can get hacked Amazon Oh creepy Amazon engineer can get ahold of it maybe who knows what happened DGM I want to see your OOTD makeup soda will just give me props on my shirt my hook Landis shirts oh that's a that is dope shirt oh look and local brand logo baby no no no no full body oh oh TD Stephen Beecham I want to see it hahaha people that are listening or like what I'm gonna just describe it really quickly so we can move on with the show Heather dark heather gray shirt with this cool Oakland ish logo blue jeans form-fitting around the ass area and a pair of black black bands form-fitting with baby hit socks with white socks if you look anyway closet it's mostly black t-shirts but we've gone on it semi tangent but echo look is a legit product in almost you think it's like an April Fool's joke but it's interesting because echo Amazon is so ahead of this now because they've seen how people are responding and using the like they have so much more data and information than Apple doesn't I wasn't even released anything yet you know what I mean yeah yeah so he's like look judging someone was like making comments on Twitter like it was judging your outfits or something it doesn't do anything like that it just kind of locks what you wear right it logs what you wear you can set favorites and then also if you want to it has some some feature that analyzes what you're wearing and make suggestions so I think it may be let's judge you yeah well it's Judge edgy I mean you know let's be honest there's some people that choose not to match their clothes in any way shape or form because that's actually a style I don't know if this will work with them very well I'm sorry but this is just gonna like make the morning routine a little bit longer and I'm not I'm not for that right I have to get to kids dress take them to school you know get myself dressed take myself to work it's already more different aminal I'm not gonna be taking pictures all morning you know you know it's almost like we should do a different podcast about like the other stuff outside of app okay know right teaser maybe I don't know okay down let's get onto the show back to Apple back on track Apple cars this is picture just came out from Bloomberg although you may not see it that's fine but this is Apple's cars that they're using a do their Ted they're testing for their self-driving car technology they're using a Lexus RX 450h that's kind of like the I don't want to call it a mini SUV it is kind of like their mini SUV Bloomberg has Bloomberg has photos of it because someone basically tracked the cars emerging from an Apple facility this week to identify what cars they're using it has an array of sensors a the person that took this photo and provided it to Bloomberg said it included a Velo dine lidar tanks top-of-the-range 64 channel lidar it's it's kind of that rig that's on top two radars there's camera sensors on the side of the car one on the front very similar to some of the stuff that you have seen in these self-driving cars but Apple is testing them out in the wild and Apple spokesman the client to comment this also comes on the heels of two weeks ago the California Department of Motor Vehicles gave Apple clearance to start carrying out trials with three vehicles earlier this month this is part of their project Titan for those of you that remember we had talked about this a lot but Apple was working on an autonomous car project at first they were trying to make deals with car makers like Volkswagen AG BMW AG they were clearly kind of taking a taking a lot more than they anticipated like a lot of car pundits really said they're like it's not that easy just to build a car when you have no experience whatsoever so Apple changed their plans Bob Mansfield who formerly was their head of VP of hardware for a while over Apple came out of retirement that's right yeah they recruited or the leadership um in April of last year for the project Titan um he's kind of refocused what they're doing it's now looking to be developing more of an autonomous driving software platform and not an actual car so this is something that Apple could still license out but all reports indicate again no car the physical car project is dead and that this is all about autonomous driving software platform you know maybe they can integrate it with the iPhone down the road obviously with carplay there's those are easy hooks but if it exists or is built into specific car manufacturers down the road that's obviously what they're hoping to be right D they're trying to be the iPhone of car systems but it's not that easy yeah especially when cars manufacturers are invested in their own platform again Apple is really not done a platform where they're just software it's very rare typically right their software and hardware that is how they're able to marry the two and be able to give us certain things that are unique to it but this car project is not that it's totally different yeah and I also think it ties in to the story we talked about last week about the satellite internet you know like what if what if the Apple cars or this Apple software only talks to that satellite internet it's like exclusive to that you know that would be a huge thing a definitely a huge selling point for a lot of people and I would be on board for sure because I love satellite radio and satellite internet would be killer you know so I don't like my phone dropping its signal everywhere I go and people were quick to point out to me they're like hey dude satellite internet exists I mean I know directly orders like what I'll Europe but we're talking about a the next generation of it basically yeah yeah you know beyond what exists today so yes you all right the well actually is correct if you're not like well actually you know the it does exist but we're talking about kind of taking it to the next level next generation stuff you know in line with 5g LTE gigabit LTE whenever that comes all right moving along with kind of other project app projects Apple is dipping their toes in we had heard a while back that Apple is potentially working on you know they have either Apple pay platform Tim Cook a long time ago made a quote about how you know Apple pay will replace cash in like I can't remember how many years he said did you say five or ten years he you know threw out some bold thing like it's going to replace cash okay we'll see I think the funny thing about is after he had said that admittedly Apple has had said publicly that the adoption rate for Apple pay has been slower than they anticipated but what they're doing now according to recode is flirting again with building their own money transfer service which appears to be back on who knows what they'll call it some people are throwing around the term Apple cash because which seems kind of opposite because it's like I thought you wanted to kill cash yeah kill Akash don't call it Apple cash the reporter says the company has recently held discussions with payments industry partners about introducing its own venmo competitor according to multiple sources the service would allow iPhone owners to send money digitally to other iPhone owners now they expect the new service to be announced sometime later this year another person caution that the announcement and launch date have not been set at all this is this is how I look at it right if Apple was talking to banks even back in 2015 to get this rolling didn't take up I'm sure Apple in a way almost wants to be their own bank right like look there's so many competitors out there there's PayPal there's obviously venmo there's square cash so I get that and they already work with my phone yeah I use all three of those right right all this don't use them all the time great right now today for all of you listening and watching would you stop using it would you just jump over to Apple pay just cuz and use it primarily like I think again when when you're late to the game you have to offer something so much more compelling than what's there and I think when I see what's happened with the iPhone they haven't yet maybe the iPhone a will be it they haven't offered something super compelling as a you know but because they've established a market but this is what they used to do they would come in later and create something really compelling we talked about earlier an Amazon echo like product I don't know if they can make something super compelling from a market that's already figuring itself out what about Apple pay well if it's just for Apple to Apple like iPhones to iPhones yeah that that does nothing for me when when you said that I immediately thought they're shooting yourself in the foot if they make it just iPhone to iPhone because you know there's so many competitors out there they have to make it they have to open it up wider for that work on everything like is Apple uh when we've talked about like Apple losing their focus are they trying to be a bank like really come at all don't be a bank this is not your expertise like you have what is it something like how many hundreds of billions of dollars right like it's not hundreds of billions but I think it's around two billion two billion dollars of cast they're sitting on don't choose to be a bank that this is not this is not your your expertise and you're losing your core audience by doing some of this stuff sometimes yeah we have plenty of banks we don't need any more banks especially an Apple Bank you know I don't know it just seems funny get your Mac's right you know get your iPhone right get your Siri right well like one way they could get me if they do create an app or some sort of Apple cash service is if their fees are cheaper or you know free you know like squared they take out a fee every time you use you charge a credit card if you punch in the numbers you know by hand it takes an even bigger fee PayPal takes a fee if you're doing you know transactions with people unless it's like friends and family or something if Apple makes it where it's completely free all the time then maybe that would be compelling but then how do they make money you know so exactly targets right it's hard thing to get into Tim Cook's mo is to make money he actually has shown us it's about making money for him specifically not coming out with the best product out there I'm sorry but I say seriously right now right then most completely free you it's so easy to just you log into your bank account and then boom you're set up it's like the easiest thing PayPal is really easy it's getting complicated sometimes but uh yeah and PayPal is free if you do friends and family so yeah and you always should choose friends and family whether it's from a family not exactly always I always tell like customer upall yeah yeah friendly Sam so again I don't know how it's if it's gonna really be different fine but you make this just an Apple to Apple platform I don't really care I really don't yeah and I don't see it be you know like you to your point Beach making it absolutely free uh yeah I wouldn't it would be a nice idea right it's nice right what are they gonna do put advertisements in the app I don't know I don't I don't they make money I don't I don't understand all right talking about other services Apple is looking to work with or actually partner with this is again another report from recode musically you know musically beat tell me you know musically I don't actually know okay don't know this is good this is good let me talk about the story a little bit I I didn't think you did only because you're kids aren't that age yet but musically is syncing up with Apple music in an attempt to get a kind of expand its reach as a marketing partner this is for those of you who don't have kids that are like let me guess there may be like 7 to 16 ish is kind of like the sweet spot because I have nieces and nephews that are like all about this although the older one is just kind of like over it now that allowed you it's actually really cool it allow you to trait these like quick fun music videos where you lip-synch to the top songs directly from your phone at effects slow modes people do things like where they're like imagine like singing and then they open their mouth like you're going to their mouth and then the Edit cuts and then you're somewhere else like stuff like that clearly I know way too much about this right I think I'm putting stuff like this on you know people that host videos on history I do like a lot of like hand tutting and motions like while they're singing they're like oh and it like speeds them up too I said that a lot yes there's even I think I put a link so you can even watch some of this while we're talking okay Apple is a linking up with musically we talked about how they let users create and share their own music videos with snippets of songs so starting Friday Apple music will be one of the services that supplies the actual songs they're still working with music distributor 7 digital Apple will be another partner with them but it gives again Apple like this new channel for marketing it will promote Apple's paid service to its own users and will allow Apple music subscribers to listen to full songs within the app so it's just kind of weaving these two things together oh I think that's the Apple music this isn't it I just put it up for musical effect oh for musical effects sorry about that so anyways there you go musically three-year-old Shanghai based company I mean it exploded there I can't tell you how much my niece's would use this app but again Apple getting involved with them so we'll see how that plays out cool cool I'm in other music news you know WWDC is coming on the corner and maybe while I'm talking Beach you can kind of think about maybe what's one thing or a feature you want to see in iOS 11 you know it's kind of hard because we're going to the point where like our phones are doing so much but this is a report from Bloomberg Business Week and it was really a profile about Jimmy Iovine one of the heads of Apple music kind of more on the creative side and former record label executives with all these artists Apple may include a new videos feature in Apple music we've heard about the carpool karaoke the dr. Dre documentary but they're looking to have 10 original series planned for this year 10 series so they're trying to make this not only a music platform but a video platform around music based content they things like there's been a lot of rumors that point to Apple doing a documentary about Bad Boy Records I like this out be awesome I'm down with that P Diddy yeah that's the first that's the first video shock me that's the first show that you mentioned that I'm interested interested in watching oh no totally fascinating what about Cash Money Records Birdman Henry yeah Lil Wayne I'm not really a little Wayne fan juvenile back that a pup back that out you know that do people even know that song now I hope they do baby gotta back that app up do you look good won't you bag that app or they don't say app though yeah okay so anyways they're working on documentaries like that one about Clive Davis that's recently Apple acquired the documentary rights to do this so that looks like that's on the docket as well I mean P Diddy announced that they're working on this documentary about it's gonna be called can't stop won't stop a bad boy story it's I'm gonna watch that yeah I want to see that too man a long term there they want to do additional content with a music focus it the report talks about partnering with JJ Abrams Brian Grazer if any of you don't know who's a sensational producer but currently as a producer behind a couple shows Empire which used to be amazing and then this new series called genius which is documenting like a 10 part series about Albert Einstein and all the things that he went through during the rise of the Nazis and and also just his relationships it's it actually is pretty fascinating I got to see a little screener of the first episode so it's on National Geographic so they're working with high-level cream of the crop producers to create content that they hope to start rolling out by the end of the year in in Apple music again I'm it's got to be so good that I I put money down I know I know here that still is so weird like why not Apple TV I mean that that makes sense you know we already argued about we didn't argue about it but we talked about this before I was just weird Apple music seems like a strange place to put all this content you know well I will tell you you know being out here and talking a lot of different people that there's this new wave of individual companies now looking for place to create their own pay for on-demand channels with exclusive content behind that and we're talking about like $5 services right them so for any of you that are familiar with like the nerd the Nerdist stuff right they have like this thing called the Alpha Channel alpha which is their pay for platform it's like five dollars a month Vimeo is getting into it to start training exclusive content I don't exactly know when they're going to launch it they just made an announcement other other companies are doing the same stuff like okay five dollars so what's gonna start really being interesting is a not only does that content have to be amazing but how many how many companies am I gonna be giving $5 to oh wow right right like everyone's doing that right now it is out of control almost yeah those are just a few the companies I mean there's at least 10 more that I I can't remember off the top my head that are doing this kind of $5 X video there's the Comic Con HQ is another one of those so there's a lot of people that are trying to figure out but again Comic Con HQ has this like show with Mark Hamill Luke Skywalker hanging out with like super fanboys but I'm not gonna pay $5 a month to watch that no way no way I'm just not there yet it has to be ridiculously good so um Apple putting all this content behind Apple music an interesting move we'll see how it goes but at the same time Apple's subscriber growth uh you know I think it hit I think it was around did they hit the 20 million mark or I know they're at least at 15 I don't know that and they're still trailing a lot behind by Spotify Spotify has something around 50 to 60 the last time I I'm just taking this off the top my head from what I remember so but they're they're trying to make it happen and if you're a subscriber if this is what keeps you locked in and maybe they're making enough revenue from their subscriber base already and with their projections they're like you know what whether or not we get new ones or not we're making a lot of money to make this more compelling I could actually see how that supports that yeah totally also they do like exclusive performances or something like titles doing that to IC titles like launching concert performances on their site you know that would probably help a lot too but uh who knows what they're gonna do yeah you know we it's a it's an exciting it's always exciting times in the tech space where there's so many different you know disruptive things that are going on disruptors there's so many disruptors like you don't you don't know what how it's gonna play out but everyone's trying trying to corner these spots so I just think it's pretty fascinating okay Beach did you if if there is there one feature in iOS 11 this next iOS that you hope they would do or maybe something that you hope that they do better I'm just even saying just one yeah I mean just I've said it probably 50 times on this podcast but just make I Tunes work in landscape you know music working landscape mine I met it's like the simplest thing they could do and it would solves a lot of problems so you know that's one thing I want even their uh their the phone itself now has speakers on both ends for a more stereo effect like shouldn't we be able to navigate our music collection in landscape especially because of that now yes please please that's all I'm asking for Apple that's I mean everything else is great I used my phone I have no problems with it I just when I'm at the gym I can't turn my phone side where I do I put it sideways but nothing you know it doesn't tilt or anything so shot in the dark very annoying shot in the dark si on periscope is asking for iTunes VR how would that work I'm with I don't want to know oh yeah you know what you know what iTunes VR is gonna be is I put on a headset and look and we'll just play the visualizer yeah and sorry that that's what iTunes VR is gonna be like yeah we all like acid trip maybe yeah alright um one other story kind of before we get to the calls this is a story you know what give me a second cuz I actually have to look it up because I accidentally closed it you know how you know how people do that but this is a story about we know about the antenna issues that Apple had with iPhone 7 I'll I jumped on that really early because I felt right when I started using my phone the antenna just didn't work nearly as well as my iPhone 6s and then we started hearing the stories about how there were two different antennas in the iPhone 7s one was a Qualcomm base one one was an Intel based one and the Intel base one actually didn't perform as well and then in addition to that Apple report allegedly throttled or changed some of the performance or you know affected the Qualcomm base ones so that they would be a little more on par with each other although people with Qualcomm base one said yeah I got better signal in these areas or you know better performing signal like I used to so now Apple and Qualcomm are going back and forth in the quartz but here's a new development about just this upcoming iPhone 8 I stayed away from iPhone 8 stuff this week because it's all the same crap right now right it's like hey look at this render hey look at this plastic shell that may or may not be the iPhone 7 there's a vertical camera there's may or may not be rear touch ID like I think a lot of you that listening this you know about all this stuff already right so we want to talk about different stuff it makes the show more interesting but this one I did find interesting according to Roger Chang our own from CNET the iPhone 8 may miss one key feature already in the galaxy s 8 and that feature is gigabit LTE now for the record gigabit LT is not here yet you know it say okay fine we may not be getting a gig of data via LTE but it's going to be pretty darn fast according to reports t-mobile will be rolling out their own gigabit LTE and promises it by the end of the year if you're wondering why this gigabit LT even matter okay in speed test run by open signal based on an average speed posted by t-mobile and Verizon right these are you know these again our test to give you an idea but based on these tests gigabit LTE was 18 times faster than the average speeds posted on t-mobile Verizon based on what we are what we use right now how that is asking times so what the issue here is that Apple is still expected to use a combination of Qualcomm and Intel antennas inside of the iPhone 8 well guess what the current Intel modem that will be consumed that we available for consumers and commercial ready doesn't have the ability to hit gigabit LTE speeds no wall comms can and if you yeah right yeah so if you think about this Apple could potentially again potentially this is all speculation right let's get that out of the way could it could mean Apple might end up maybe slowing down the Qualcomm modem to ensure that iPhones are on the same footing like this is what happens when you have two suppliers in unfortunately this is also what happens when you have one of the world's most popular phones that you can't keep up with the demand that you have to start looking at multiple suppliers so that you can still sell hundreds of millions of phones yeah I mean they've done it once before they they're probably gonna do it again you know that that's what that's what you know that's what I would think of you know is are they actually repeating history I think another thing about this is if this iPhone is going to be the next like flagship iPhone right the iPhone eight like they're their 10th anniversary badass phone and then it literally doesn't have and we've seen this in other phones don't get me wrong when the first iPhone came out it didn't have 3G 3G was actually readily available it had two G on the original iPhone gigabit LTE not on this iPhone 10th anniversary but it will be flipped on switch it feels like kind of almost like deja vu right yeah and they have proven that they did this before with the iPhone 7 so I honestly if it takes them time or maybe this is an issue that won't time won't fix itself because if they're using Intel modems or using Intel modems alongside Qualcomm modems it's kind of something that people can point out like your phone is literally not even is 10 times not even 18 times slower let's say it's a difficult day and everyone's on the phone your phone is 10 times slower than mine that's a lot yeah that is a lot and basically throttling themselves right apples I always complain about 18t throttling me after I get to like 20 gigs of data since I'm a grandfather unlimited data guide but now we can complain that apple's throttling the phone their own phone yeah it's basically the same thing right am i wrong no it's it's it's it is ish and yeah I mean also Samsung's Galaxy s8 the chip inside it that are Snapdragon 835 processor and the modem that they're using hits gigabit LTE speed so arguably the top rival phone that is out today will have gigabit LTE support and that's to me that's that's a big deal you don't want that you want to be on the equal if you want to be on this you want to have the same at least specs in general but will they still sell tens of millions hundreds of millions most likely yes but I think it's important when Apple is trying to play a lot of catch-up it more and more every year it feels like they're behind they need to stop being perceived that way totally like you're saying they need to stop being perceived that way someone in the chat room evarin Malpica just said apple is always in caps behind so that's their perception now you know yeah it is so there you go we'll see how it all plays out but that's I thought that was a story iPhone story we're talking about all right you want to go check out who gave us a colleague call on the phones you want to do the last the last story just cuz I had something queued up the oh you did the marmots are you go ahead why not okay all right so check this out uh Wow Beechum's like more content more content this just yesterday I have got fired up about this and I should have brought it over here but Apple on on Apple's iOS is worse for iPhone and iPad they released this new app it's called Marvell color your own okay yeah why is this important I I'm a fan of the iPad pro I'm that dude that wants to use the iPad pro there's adult coloring books not like my wife uses yeah but they're like they're actually like you know really good to relax your mind and things of that nature yeah that's that's what they that's what they do right so I've been for the longest time I'm like come on like Marvel and DC put out adult coloring books where I can color in the actual comic because again I'm I got the iPad pro because I freaking read comics all the time every week right I have a rotation I want to be able to like be at the airport to be like oh hey star-lord like yeah like this right oh hey Deadpool what would you look like with yellow highlights like stupid stuff like that will they put out this app now it's a harv in color your own it's straight-up adult coloring book I got to get this for my kids I'm freaking freak out color get Iron Man and stuff but you have to have the Apple pen right no no you can use you I believe it works with iPhone though also it does cool yeah it works on the iPhone so here's here's the catch cuz like all things are catch Marvel's not going to give their entire library of just inked versions without color of the comics for free but what's cool is there are at least I think there's around like 10 different properties in there there's like Civil War Gardens the Galaxy Avengers Doctor Strange and they give you at least two pages that you can color in and again these are gonna take you hours if you really want to do them right if your kids just gonna play with them they can but there's also like basically a subscription service okay for it to use it monthly so that you can get access to all of the content if you I put a tweet out and I got it on Twitter and it it has my screenshot of it but if I recall right um let me just even pull it up so I can relay this information at least over the podcast so in this this service you can there again like there's a couple that are free for each of those comics but it's called ultimate access feature you have a free 7-day trial other than just coloring the ones that they made available it'll put like some watermark on it but if you really wanted to be your own um it's $7.99 a month oh god that's another one other thing that I got yeah and then I'm here click on the middle the on the right hand side there's three images click on that mid one more down okay go to the next one here you go $7.99 a month if you want to use it for the entire and unlock all the pages to color like there's it's pretty amazing but it's $39.99 a year and that's 50% off Wow 50% off that's raising so again I get it they need to make money because they shouldn't they really shouldn't just release their entire collection of inked pages and let people go to town but wow that's a lot of money that is a lot of money but again I love it so I'm gonna take my time and color the free ones that they have um but it's it is pretty expensive right definitely what if we were just complaining about five dollars a month now this thing's like seven dollars a month crazy I mean that that's a lot of my but yeah it's like x-men is part of that a lot a lot of good stuff in there cool right on all right well I'm glad I'm glad we finished the news on a high note so let's go do some voicemails yeah for your wallet okay here we go let me get my voicemail system set up here number one call thanks for calling let me turn off this uh hang on a second I had the Marvel theme going and now jungle jamming yeah here we go yo Brian what's up with the UH the 12-inch MacBook they usually come out March April no update this year what's the deal man I like always this is like it's like oh man like what what he's alright that's real he's keeping it real I wish I wish he dropped his name but thanks for calling you know what the MacBook is is like a product that is like their their sleekest sexiest device but it just doesn't have enough power and I think because they put so much again when Apple is too much attention on so many other things they put all their attention on the touch bar MacBook Pros that's all they did for the past two years or so and that's why and the MacBook isn't a top seller but it's there sleekest X design it is expensive because it's like their design I remember the MacBook Air which was kind of the MacBook that you see now before it came out right it was the super sleek one that was below an iBook and and a MacBook Pro and they'd it took two years for it to actually have enough speed to compete with some of the others and that's when I bought it I see it the same way with this MacBook just a beautiful proof-of-concept piece they know that Apple loyalists will buy it it is ultralight it is ultra sexy it is functional but it doesn't have enough power to hang as like a a hardcore multimedia type machine it's just really like an expensive entry-level MacBook that's it you know what I mean just pace on design so I do expect them to update it normally it's around actually more like the August September timeframe so hopefully we see something with that it's just gonna be most likely just new processors and whatnot but um I do not expect to see them putting a touch bar in the MacBook just the size of it they're not gonna be able to keep it that thin so to stay posted if you have one already and you wanted a new one I can understand why you might be frustrated but I don't think they've updated it fur feels like a year and a half or so I should double-check that but we will um we'll find that out we'll get go get to the next call and see if I can find it while we're listening all right next call here we go hey Brian I'm Steven this is Alex from Colorado and I wanted to piggyback on Brian's comments about I works I wrote my entire dissertation in pages because at the time Office for Mac didn't render the right-to-left scripts correctly pages oh nine wasn't great with right-to-left scripts like Arabic but it was more than functional compared to Office for Mac the pages 60.0 update a few years ago drastically improved that functionality and as a result I stuck to I works even though Microsoft on Mac is getting better with the right cost scripts okay take care thanks guys legit see this is why okay so I kind of I think I kind of started a storm because when I said like who uses pages like people definitely let me know that they use pages but they were cool about it you know cuz I'm on it I want to know so that was an awesome call using it for your dissertation I had another writer um and his name was Sam so cool he has a verified check on his name too but he's like I use pages all the time plenty of you told me that but I thought was interesting cuz you never hear about pages but like I think I almost like poke the bear or something like everyone's like dude I use pages so I'm gonna hold back because I don't use it I'm not I shouldn't be judgmental about and I'm not I'm just always curious Ike who actually uses pages because I'm always just using Google Docs or Microsoft Word but those are legit reasons and I'm glad people are using it that's cool and it's that it's free now yeah and a big reason why we use Google Docs to is because it's tied into our work email so we're kinda that's true kind of like almost forced to use it you know that's super true that's super so yeah we're not on not being judgey all right judge judgey judgey okay we have one more call cord cutter update homie and Alameda my neighborhood here we go hey this is Nick from Alameda hey I just want to give you a cord cutter update DirecTV now has gone and pushed back to features that they had discontinued for a couple months one is a rewind feature on certain channels for shows so if you missed a movie or you're catching the tail end of it you could hit a button and it will take you back to the beginning of that movie which is awesome definitely worth its weight in gold and then the other one is a 72-hour rewind feature for some channels so let's say it's Friday and you miss the episode of your show that happened on Wednesday you can rewind that channel all the way to that day and time and then watch the TV show so hey thanks a bunch just figured I'd give you that update and the last podcast I was on man my wife's got a kick out of how you guys called me out for Mickey in the Roadster racers why I was going off of the premise that you guys had or Steve had children so you know I was just throwing somebody a bone but it was all in good fun talk to you later bye yeah yeah it was like Mickey what racers miklusak roaster racers man way to get it out can you say Mickey roasters racers five times really fast do it right he's roaster racers Mickey's roaster racers Mickey no I can't do it I didn't think so that's art decides I wanted throw out there just a quick follow up on some of the calls the last time they updated the MacBook was just a little bit over a year ago so they're actually kind of on track with that it's around like 370 days or so so I just want to let people know that yeah and also also because of my judgey judgey on apple's pages i will accept a bad apple a bad apple brian bad apple Hey what he was talking about the rewind at the beginning of your show I guess DirecTV there's a lot a lot of products have that amazon has that but the 72-hour saving your all of your favorite channels in the cloud or something for 72 hours that's pretty cool I but it's not rid of that before the thing is with the AT&T service though although that is cool for the direct now service look I use Play Station view and it keeps shows that you missed that you DVR'd up to a month oh wow and it's in the cloud but what he was saying it just sounded like it's an automatic thing like it just saves the last 72 hours of like that Boston you were watching yeah it seems kind of new it's just like a backup like an automatic backup kind of thing that's kind of neat I mean I got a it's it's so layered that it's hard to just do one that's simple but I got I should do a comparison about like all four services just like that be like a 20 minute video no one's gonna be able don't even want people don't even watch this for five minutes so a couple people do I know I know there are there actually there's good amount all right so I think we're good Beach that's it yeah thank you gonna wrap it up all right thanks so much everybody again be a part of the show call us call me out we do want to hear what you think about that a pleco stuff though 1-866 two six three eight let us know where you're from tella how it is a have a great weekend be safe Beechum you want to say goodbye yes thank you all for watching have a great weekend and we will see you next week peace see y'all you
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