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from the top of the CBS Interactive building in San Francisco it's the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host Brian Tong Thank You mr. Beecham for that lovely warm intro welcome you know how we do it once a week we give it to you the Apple byte extra crunchy we are here to talk about expand on a lot of the stories that we've talked about on the actual Apple bite video podcast but then there's always new news happening there were like two or three more big stories that broke after we recorded the Apple bite show so that's where we also talked about it here at the Apple byte extra crunchy this is the place where you guys can also get involved with us on the show 1-866-376-8255 lots of phones do it but there is a difference there is Apple's wireless charging yeah so what they're working on here according to Bloomberg is that they're working on developing a new wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its devices but also the big thing here is range instead of it just being directly on one of those charging mats are those little pedestals that you get they're talking about having a range not just within inches but feet away from a actual wire charging kind of station that sends out that signal just think about it think of it as Wi-Fi but it's it's Wi-Fi charging yeah that's right now they haven't described how far this range will go because as you move further away from this charging base station wirelessly this yeah the transmitter it gets weaker it might take longer to charge but Apple and even as far back as 2010 they have a patent application with this concept of actually using an iMac as the hub for wireless charging yeah so if it's just sitting on your desk wherever your desk office is that's your charging hub and if you're wandering around your office your phone's just constantly charging I think that's cool yeah they're uh it's right now that patent as described just talked about recharging at a distance of about one meter using a technique called near-field magnetic or resonance so this is similar to induction charging with its watch but this is that's you know within millimeters this is a further arrange there was also another Apple patent that really talked about making aluminum phone casings that would allow radio waves to pass through yeah so pass through the casing to the battery so these are all indicators of what Apple is trying to do what they're working on GameChanger it would come it would be the mean as long as other companies don't beat them to the punch that have already created wireless charging right yeah exactly and also depending on how far this charging capability will allow you to move like a video if you can go through your whole apartment and your phone's charging that's awesome that was IQ like if I can like steal some charge from my neighbors to have you go give it to me so we we have we have that kind of story that broke but then also earlier in the week if we're still sticking to the iPhone 7 a new story from KGI Securities analyst Ming Chi Kuo who has sometimes made up some things but typically over the past few years has actually been pretty pretty on it he reports that the iPhone 7 will have obviously the iPhone 7 and the 7 plus but in addition to that it's likely to have two different 7 plus models that are into right now one with the standard single eyesight rear-facing camera and another one boosting a dual camera design 3d like double multi you know mult dual lens camera system double lens dual lens is the same thing I can't even talk but where this where like kind of the breadcrumbs here of how this might happen Apple acquired a company an Israeli camera tech company called Lynx imaging last year and they have multiple basically camera sensors into one specific piece it also the way that their tech is built allows you to have a flat camera so it's not protruding anymore you won't have that little wobble I call it the the eyesight nipple right it's just there on your camera which and then also just the actual visual benefit you get from here the results are it has better low lighting capability it has higher resolution they like to talk about it I know it's people get like there's no way it's SLR quality right I know my cameras my canons my Nikon's they're knowing that they're throwing that around they like to throw yeah they like to say hey it's SLR quo yeah we'll we'll see the thing about this is the reason why I like this story is if there's any differentiator that Apple has typically built kind of a reputation on its having arguably the best camera for a mobile phone definitely that's like their focus now they just wipe their phones to have the best camera this phone this this camera also is expected to have two to three times optical zoom which is pretty cool yep and then also it just helps with depth perception of your images you know like it has depth mapping or something yeah so that could actually can even like focus on different parts yeah you know it can sense like your nose versus one camera what was it called the like Lytro camera a little bit right yeah we got a light row it's kind of cool very cool stuff so that's what's shakin and bakin in the iPhone 7 world but if we're gonna talk about upcoming products what about what Apple is expected to be you know announcing in March mid March according to ninety-five Mac is the proposed or targeted date of March 14th where Apple will purportedly release and announce an updated iPad air three an iPhone 5se formerly known and rumored as the iPhone 6c all right so that's the lower everyone was like yeah right kind of the more budget-friendly phone yeah they're actually according to the report calling it the iPhone 5se and then additional Apple watch bands at this mid-march with a potential of iOS the iOS latest update which right now is in beta public beta even for a lot of people nine point three which adds some cool stuff we talked about last week that would be part of this bundle of announcements no rumblings if we'll see a laptop but this is like the iPhone 5se now in our shows we like to kind of have fun with this right like we called it like the special edition yeah Yeah right the sucker edition I called it the iPhone single essay so we want to know we want you guys to call in or tweet us but we wanted to call in just quickly tell us where you're from and tell us what you think the iPhone se stands for you make a little montage right so it's 1-866 268 we want you guys and gals to be a part of the show that tell us what you think the iPhone se stands for I'm sure we'll get some crazy responses I think it's worth it to mention too that se is lowercase right yeah five lowercase s lowercase e which is something I haven't seen from out I did I I don't this is all this is all crap this is all made up I have no idea of rumors about the actual phone say now that there's been a models that are in testing one with an a8 m8 chip the other with an a nine m9 chip and the thinking is that because once the new actual iPhone 7 comes out which would most likely have an a-10 processor they don't want that iPhone se - hey there's my phone it just called my phone just made a call they don't want that iPhone se to be slower and behind oh yeah right two generations behind happy 2014 phone you're buying in 2017 or 2016 yeah and the iPhone se will have like Apple pay and all those good things so um you know we'll wait and see what happens there and then in addition that when we talk about the iPad air 3 there was this released kind of sketch of what there are no confirmations that this is what it is but I could see this where the iPhone sorry the iPad air 3 potentially would have four speakers just like the iPad pro which would be good yeah that would be good because when you turn the iPad pro right now we're depending on its orientation it actually adjusts the audio so that you can hear it the best probably really that's pretty cool yeah that's probably one things I love about the iPad pro not that overall the sound just sounds better on the iPad pro yeah um so yeah iPad air 3 also the sketch show to flash on the camera hmm do we want that I think so I dunno you want to flash you want people to be more encouraged to use their iPads as cameras yeah that will be annoying when they're flashing them I don't add like sporting events I don't want to see this this this that's a that's a bad apple man that's that's horrible people are like what's your phone number to call in okay what okay here just leave it up there we don't have an actual live call this is just to leave a message for what the iPhone 5se stands for 1-866 2 6 3 8 all right moving along we talked about everyone wants to know when are we gonna see updated MacBooks that's probably one of the more anticipated products of next year intel just recently released their price list for the latest skylake chips that could be used in the actual I sorry Mac my brain is like all over the place so many products like we're talking about I know it's hard to keep track of it all please anyways they release the specs and the pricing for the future 15-inch MacBook Pros potential suitors for the skylake chipset if anyone here people ask me all the time when should I buy this what's up Dixon he just jumped in if it people are listening and want don't buy a laptop now wait for a skylake processor you could wait three months you could wait six months just hold out unless your computer like exploded and you need it just just relax a little okay that's all I'm saying but uh that's good news because I don't think we'll see them at the March event I could be wrong most likely we'll see MacBooks at the June WWDC event they've done in the past and so uh my hunch would say that that's where we're going cool all right Apple earnings also were announced this past week some of you care some of you don't I think that it's important because you're gonna really see where is the momentum and where is Apple going here yeah so just to let you know Apple off the top right they had quarter a record another record quarter seventy five point nine billion dollars in revenue eighteen point four billion dollars of profit okay that's a lot now that is their best record reported quarter all time in which cute which quarter was that without technically as so they call it fiscal quarter one haha but calendar quarter would be it's the last quarter of 2015 so October November December is fiscal quarter one but for us regular people it's just the last quarter of 2015 gotcha so you could pop those bottles people on periscope were like throwing up like cash money you know Jesus right now but here's the thing they sold seventy four point eight million iPhones slightly shoots it is a huge number slightly up from seventy four point five the year before then we start talking about Mac sold five point three million compared to five point five million that's a dip then when you talk about iPads okay just get ready 16.1 million sold this recent quarter versus twenty one point four million a year ago that's a huge drop yeah and then tribute sent that to not releasing a new iPad air since 2014 but he but here's the thing they released a new iPad pro they did yeah but thanks and remember I was like dude they're not the iPad pro is not going to be able to kick up make up for that yeah I think even last the last quarterly report iPads or something like down ten percent I was like there's no way even the iPad pro can make up that gap because it's so niche like I love the iPad pro for what it is but all the ways that Apple advertised it that smart Keyboard is like it's like doodoo I returned it I got a regular cover case I just travel and I've watched movies and I read comics I don't even really use the multitasking that much yeah it's just a bigger screen iPad for me and I I've only used the pencil a few times my niece's mm-hmm maybe maybe maybe everyone else is using it exactly the way Apple watch YouTube it's just a when did it when did they release it like late late cue feel like and I feel like I got it in like November like like early November I feel like I can't remember I loved for the record me personally I love the iPad pro but I don't think it's for everyone at all yeah like it's just not so you know just to kind of look at these numbers look Apple's iPhone sales compared to one year ago is basically flat right seventy four point eight to seventy four point five million that's flat Mac's are down iPads are down they reported record sales for the Apple watch and the new Apple TV yes and that they tributed that to the holiday season of course but they didn't reveal the numbers either they didn't see the numbers so you know we predict we did our predictions show was it was it yeah yeah December so when we did our predictions show we were we basically agreed that it was gonna be either a flat or down here for Apple this year and all indications show that Apple even told people that they expect to sell fewer iPhones there next quarter than any quarter so it's the momentum guys and gals is kind of like slowing down it's and I'm just like I don't I don't see anything shocked in the world I don't see anything like just all of a sudden kicking that up I don't yeah it's this is kind of like a transitional time for Apple right now it is we'll see what they can do that wall yeah it is no but when we talk like the whole Apple TV what can potentially you know jumpstart this help them with this well the reports are out now according to the street that Apple could pull a Netflix and start creating original TV shows along that's what they need to do they do this for a long time right like content is King Apple isn't locking down this TV service anytime soon there were reports a while ago that they had approached Bill Simmons the sports broadcaster there were reports that they had approached the Top Gear crew the original Top Gear crew right yeah and both groups turned them down which is actually probably really smart and so look at all that amazing original content that's on Netflix even on Amazon not as much on Amazon but dude Netflix is worth every penny I know yeah I mean everybody everybody's doing even Amazon has some cool stuff out right now but uh yeah I mean we talked about this last week at Apple's very late to the game on this and they need to jump in quickly if they're gonna be competitive with the Apple TV you know like what okay what what series have you watched on Netflix that are Netflix exclusive well I have I haven't watched mini series on Netflix Chelsea Handler's show I hear is very good really long because it's like documentary style like doing weird stuff yeah I was like yeah I mean I I can't really point that you see Masters have none no I have a good show unbreakable kimmy schmitt dope show house of cards obviously house of cards you have seen daredevil Jessica Jones I mean jessica jones is a huge hit it's like huge Netflix is killing it and so I don't know I I'm just getting the point where like all these things that are hot Apple like talks about it like two years later and it's been that way that's been that way in the past but there all I'm saying is that in the past you not least the Apple say okay here this is this is our idea this is our vision like there's no vision it's all stuff that people have done already it's all catch-up yeah like would you like the next few stories we're gonna talk about to is the same thing we're talking about now exactly you know it's like they're still trying to catch up we're gonna talk about VR chapel working on VR stuff like they have a team they are like maybe you know there's a lot of things like oculus just came out there's things happening maybe we should assemble a team to start looking into this VR thing there's this VR thing happening maybe we should do it so at Apple's quarterly earnings people always ask Tim Cook questions to to give him an idea of like Oh what what's happening and so he was asked directly what are your thoughts on virtual reality and Tim Cook said it's really cool it has interesting applications no she's always sad - I mean that's like no surfacey no Sherlock it's really cool guys so a report from the Financial Times and we've seen patents for Apple working on like 3d virtual interview like UI interfaces of their own goggles but a report from the Financial Times says Apple has expanded its research efforts they have a team of hundreds of employees that are part of a secret research unit no longer a secret again exploring AR and VR okay see this is what's had to be the word exploring why dude exploring AR and just say building I went to CES this year and it was the first year where I finally got to interact and have real VR experiences yeah whatever I did VR porn but that was it might have been I may have been the best but it was like we did it um you know the interactive experience is some of the amazing stuff that oculus is doing with gaming I'm not gonna buy a specific desktop PC to get a knock oculus setup yet Samsung's gear VR is the most accessible because it's only 99 bucks you pop it on if they have some really cool experiences as well but for gaming wise right oculus is just crushing it HTC vive is interesting to me but you know the innovators are already out there Apple's exploring right now they're like we mean you were at a warrior's game in VR yesterday yeah yeah and it was awesome I was like courtside under the under though you're under the hoop that was the best angle by the way he's right under the hoop but you you're at the game it's amazing these experiences are you know people that have criticized right oh you're not gonna wear goggles I don't know what's the longest period of time I'll wear VR goggles yeah you know because most of time when we do these little demos and stuff it's like uh maybe fifty five minutes to like 15 20 minutes tops you feel that's pretty good I don't know if I would wear a VR headset for literally one hour or two hours that might be a little too long so just the short time we were doing the Warriors thing that those goggles were heavy and uncomfortable yeah and I was like they need to fix this because that's why you're not gonna hang out in this you gotta sit two hours do that VR that VR heads there you're like yeah but every demo I've seen is like guys running around with a virtual gun and you know jumping over stuff so so just to let you know guys Apple is working on is exploring in VR right now innovation mob so that's happening uh I've just you know it's like hey we're doing an Apple car cool yeah oh you know what though I've seen rumblings man my prediction might be coming true what's your what was that rumbling uh uh just uh Brian Cooley if you got guys go watch the road show autocomplete podcast that we just started producing and talk about him and Tim Stevens talked about it and how Apple is you know thinking about Silicon Valley could be the next Detroit you know building cars and stuff so that's kind of happening right now in in you know I think we talked about it last week Apple getting the car URLs or whatever they were locking down stuff like that so I mean it seems like my prediction might come true you might see a Fender or even just like I'll just a piece just yeah just like I was at a hubcap no I got oh dang I if I had a pair of head Beats headphones I just show you like that's a totally just like just like the ear piece but uh we didn't even put this in the rundown but in a related story of the whole car thing there were reports recently from Apple Insider that Apple has put a hiring freeze on all hires related to the Apple car project because two things happen the head of the Apple car or project Titan as it's known internally Steve Sadowski who has helped who helped with like the iPod launch and I think also camera versus the iPhone one but you know multiple products he just has decided to leave the company for personal reasons they had it didn't get into details for that but he was basically the head of that project then they did an internal review and according to the report Johnny I've was unhappy with the progress of the actual Apple car project and the direction so whether that means the look the feel how far they've gone like you know Apple has never built a car apple has met with car companies but apples not partnering with car companies to build a car right they want to do it themselves it's gonna take a lot longer than they think it's not easy it's like starting from yeah it's starting from scratch for them right this is not a phone it could be like you know more than five years in the making just to build this I mean when we are at the Detroit Auto Show we are interviewing car makers talking about this and they're saying yeah from start to finish when you when you design and build a new car it takes five years of like guys sculpting clay into the shape of a car every little detail inside the car where it where's the car dog and handles gonna go you know it's like there's so much involved and then plus Apple wants it to be all connected to the iPhone so and this is another church their first attempt right yes first attempt so you know it would be cool it would be cool one day if Apple just jumped ahead of a trend and made something really special and we just I don't see us I don't see that happening in the next three years minimum right yeah Apple watch that was a reaction to the Pebble watch keep it real right VR reaction of VR car reaction the Tesla like it's all very reactionary and you can argue that the iPhone was a reaction to palm and although I I pad Pro reaction to the surface and then you know the surface book and the actual surface just Microsoft was the most innovative company of 2015 for me so well we'll talk more let's uh people that someone's like wait the Apple guy is hating on Apple I'm just keeping a real it happens don't I'm not trying to hurt your feelings I'm just telling you how it is okay mr. periscope or mrs. periscope on there all right uh do you want to go jump in yeah see what we got with the phone calls yeah we got some phone calls our first one is from Archie in Boca Raton Florida and while while we're doing these calls if you guys want to post some questions we will try and answer your calls as well okay oh cool here we go hello Brian in the beach my name is Artyom Kahn kombucha Raton Florida and today I'm calling with a question about the Apple TV unlike when Apple went from the first generation to the second generation Apple TV it looks like they're still selling the previous generation and what I'm wondering is do you think they will be doing any software updates to the third generation Apple TV since it does not run the new TV OS main reason why I asked it says on the website that the new Apple TV supports Apple music but the third generation supports iTunes music and iTunes radio and it seems to me that if they're getting rid of the free iTunes radio that feature matter you can disappear from third generation anyway thank you very much all right thanks for the call we appreciate that in response to is Apple going to update the software of the third generation Apple TV it's to me it's a definitive no from a standpoint of the processor is a lot slower than the current one in the new Apple TV when you talk about Apple's radio service that'll just basically be either an icon that doesn't work anymore on the Apple TV 3 mmm third generation because now we talked about last week as of this Friday you have to have an Apple music subscription to be able to listen to Apple radio now okay which is a bummer yeah which I've destroyed which I've ranted on all about but I think that moving forward because of just look how historically Apple treats phones look at how Apple treats products in general that Apple TV 3 is going away we have the new Apple TV it's here its processor already does things that allow more vision you know the visual nature of it the Siri voice blah blah blah they're not going to do anything to improve that third generation Apple TV they they would surprise me if they did so there you go all right ok let's go the next call they didn't leave their name so I'm just gonna play it here we go hello hello I wanted to know what you guys the current state of the you touch and how or what use what you want to see the next generation of DD touch and Apple products I also wanted to know what you want to incorporate in the next generation after you touch in apps or games or just general news at anything thank you so this question is what do we foresee with 3d touch and what could they do now I do feel that 3d touch was the best innovation for Apple last year now it hasn't made a lot of noise yet but I use it all the time it makes using my phone better it still needs to get better and developers have to get their hands on it really kind of integrate more of these features in there it allows our phones to be more complex well you know being a more simple interface but 3d touch someone will say uh was it was it while we had a phone that they said Oh was gonna have 3d touch before the iPhone it's not a phone that's out everywhere Apple had their little 3d touch setup on the Apple watch too I started the Apple watch but um I just think that right now people are still getting used to using the behavior and as we do that this year we'll see a lot more functionality out of it and from the operating standpoint operating system standpoint you know I like that they've added new shortcuts with iOS 9.3 more than anything it's it's gaming that we'll see that maybe even with video editing apps we could see that but how many people gonna really edit video on their phone and yeah like like really edit video like professionally edit yeah it's not gonna happen but um I think it's pretty cool I mean I'd like to see it if I can like do it when my screen is locked I know that sounds crazy but I might be kind of cool to like deal this weekend and see what's going on like just touch your screen maybe see like some widgets or information yeah but but to me is I was a big huge fan of 3d touch right from the start I still AM but it hasn't it's one of those things that hasn't caught on just yet so yeah I've had I've had my phone a couple weeks in and admittedly I haven't used it a whole lot but also it's just because I don't know exactly all the things that it can do yeah so you know I'm gonna play with it some more what happens is you're gonna end up finding which apps have three times that you like so for example I use Shazam I stop and open the app ashes and then hit the listen to icon well now I can 3d touch to Zam and just say listen I'm gonna try that right now you got Shazam I got of course so like if you 3d touches am forced it whatever push touch it so I use that all the time because let's say my just force but that's awesome right see so that's cool boom um with the new beta right on your settings they add like Wi-Fi and Bluetooth I hate always going into Wi-Fi and then having a tweak with it I just want to jump to it directly so yeah that I will totally use that when you're using like bluetooth headphones or something like that I don't leave my bluetooth on all the time yeah I do them I turn it off so it's a battery and sometimes I want other Bluetooth devices to work and it'll get in the way yeah it's it's it's not like that okay I'm gonna try and rewind in the chat on YouTube to try and see if there's any other questions I mean there were but it's like so hard to keep up okay do you think Apple this comes from echo mg 13 I don't even know what this question is but I'm just gonna read it do you think Apple will ever promote the iPhones to have beat speakers like HTC used to if you're trying to say are they gonna promote like beats technology or the fact that there's headphones have them um I don't I don't think so it's it's weird Apple like beats built-in on the iPhone I just I don't know I don't see them do that because they like to keep that brand really pure even if they put beats technology in it that whole beats technology was just like you know it's kind of gimmicky they they bought it for the colors really I felt like it was like did a did a phone really okay it had beats technology so you could optimize you know based on sound settings how it sounded but you could kind of do that with every phone you do that were there any like Wi-Fi with anything you could tweak with it so you want to read this question real quick yeah go for it scroll back up was a good one does you mofos Fink debt to iPhone 7 won't have the headphones jack question mark it will not yeah everything is pointing to it will not I right now as of whatever January 29 I don't I don't think it's gonna have it okay I have another client what do you think who's it from beacon yeah let me see bail bail bells you house bells you house okay wait wait yeah now it's moving sorry my thing what do you think will be the oldest device on iOS 10 that's a hard one wait wait wait that's from JJ Brander oldest device yeah Eli do you think we'll be the oldest device on iOS to support it yeah it'll just be the it won't be an old device it'll be what typically what let's say two generations back like maybe the iPhone 5 I don't know maybe if we're going I phone seven iOS 10 I don't even III don't I don't even know if we'll see well I guess we'll see iOS then fine call it the iPhone iPhone 5s cuz they'll have that one at least has a faster process let's just say iPhone 5s okay just for the heck of it who knows no I know it's good stuff okay guys and gals see it's hard periscopers it's hard because when you ask a question it pretty much like goes away right away yeah so if you if you can get your question right now I'm gonna try I'm gonna really try and read one more question and then we'll get out of there for all of our loyal listeners that are like you know what maybe you just stick to the phone calls because I don't want to wait for questions yeah we're trying things Sunday Dixon just did a little hand clap okay battery life for the iPhone 7 it's probably going to be exactly the same because they made it super skinny if they got rid of the headphone jack it didn't increase battery life their iOS is optimized to give you the latest one to give you about an hour of battery life more which pretty much makes up for the fact that they made the phone skinnier so it's probably going to be pretty much the same ya know ya know indicate that there no major improvement yeah it would be like a software-based thing like some sort of you know software thing to make everything go faster final question someone asked gem please jkm please can I cancel itunes Matt music and have Apple radio the answer is no so as of today you guys have to pay for Apple music in order to listen to iTunes radio the only free radio station you're gonna get moving forward is beats one B's one beats one so sign here with these longer string costs again it's like $9.99 a month yeah $14.99 for like 5 or 6 users I think so there you go some people love Apple music so to them it's not a big deal but for people that don't subscribe I use the iTunes radio all the time yeah me too I really use it all the time so I'm kind of bummed by that but I need Apple thanks guys alright thank you everybody here for listening and hanging out with us for I don't even remember what I said episode 24 I went so 24 so again guys and gals just call us