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Are reboots killing movies?

2015-05-14
and if you look at something like for example the reboot of Robocop which was kind of much maligned and it wasn't perfect by any means but I think the most interesting well it wasn't perfect it wasn't go on it was no no we can agree it wasn't perfect it was okay it was terrible because it was terrible very long waiting the TV and movie industry is filled with reboots at the moment but our reboots grates or are they tearing apart everything we love I'm requests away and with me is rich Trenholm foreseen it doesn't like reboots rich what's the problem with them well let's call a spade a spade right let's be upfront about this a reboot is just a fancy name for a remake right it's a complete dearth of creativity and that's the problem with Hollywood I I strongly disagree but well done being so concise okay what I would say is this yeah I like reboots because they are in a way the oldest and purest form of storytelling like the bards of old we passed down familiar tales from generation to generation don't you think it's there's something quite nice about the fact that like kids today are really into like transformers and it's the same stuff that we were into like we passed on these familiar stories and characters I think there's something quite nice about it yeah to a point but then you know if you want to talk about the oral tradition that's because that was that was the only way you could tell stories now we live in a world where if you want your kids to enjoy transformers you can show them that the Transformers movies you that you enjoyed as a kid you can show them the same movie you actually enjoyed as a kid you know I mean I kind of see where you're coming from if you look at like the Doctor Who reboot for example right that was that went away for years and years and years I remember watching when I was a little kid and it went away and I thought that was the end of it I thought you know no other kids would ever get to enjoy it the same way that we would and then it came back and and my nephew really liked it and so I was quite you know I was quite happy that that I was watching this show again it was back on television when nephew got to enjoy it but that was a sight that was a slight difference because that was a continuation what I kind of have an objection to is the idea of instead of coming up with a new way of taking a particular story forward whether it's coming up with new stories for Doctor Who I kind of objected the idea of mantling the whole thing and going right back to the start and trying to retell the same story again like for example the Star Trek reboot which is literally telling the same stories again well but most reboots do try and take a different tack so like look for example at the upcoming Terminator movie they you know that they're going in a very sort of different direction I mean I don't think it looks very good but but I want to do okay well well there you go then at least they are sort of taking they are trying to like take the same sort of themes and characters and ideas but sort of muddled them up a bit kind of put them in a blender and produce something a bit new I think it's the sort of a hard reboot for me is the thing where they just start like start from scratch and go back from scratch and I think bond is more of an evolution a same with Doctor Who and the same with plenty of other series of that the thing about bond is that it kind of it updates for contemporary concerns and I think when there's a reason to do that so bond will kind of echo action movie trends and and you'll see that it kind of leads the way sometimes in effects sometimes it's trailing behind other types of movies for a while there it was very born like I hopefully it's gonna be a bit more fun from here on out but um you know you can see why it updates for contemporary concerns we kind of a bonds always been about gadgets for example and in the early films that meant he would have a phone concealed in a briefcase and that was revolutionary and now he's got all kinds whether you know a lot of tiny devices and technology plays into that and if you look at something like for example the reboot of Robocop which was kind of much maligned and it wasn't perfect by any means but I think the most interesting well it wasn't perfect it wasn't go on it was no we can agree it wasn't perfect it was okay it was terrible because it was terrible very long waiting but the most interesting thing about that was the fact that it did actually apply the kind of the themes of that film to modern concerns it was about drones it was about government surveillance that kind of thing and I think that's kind of interesting when there's a reason to do that but who needs a new Godzilla movie who needs a new version of Stephen King's it who needs a new poltergeist who needs new versions of all these different films we know that reboots are favored by Hollywood because essentially they're safe because you know what you're getting the audience knows what what they're getting and they sort of already know that they like it so when bring out a new spider-man with Garfield in it because the answer you know they are looking like web slinging lasagna yes but yeah he doesn't do any crime-fighting on Monday yeah so they're a safe bet for Hollywood and I think actually if you look at some of the most exciting directors who were making movies that kind of appeal to geek culture actually reboots are a fantastic opportunity for them because Christopher Nolan you know inception I believe was something that he wanted to do for a long time but he it was such a big-budget idea it wasn't until he'd successfully rebooted Batman that he was sort of trusted with the with the cash to do that or if you look at JJ Abrams who rebooted Star Trek and then he made like super 8 which is a sweet film that I don't rate JJ Abrams personally but there you go but I mean that's that's a debate for another day or like I mean I know that Avengers isn't isn't strictly a reboot but kind of along that theme you get like a you get like a safe Hollywood option and now Joss Whedon he's leaving them he's going to go do his own thing so why Whedon hasn't done anything for years and years and years because he's tied up in a franchise it's like Peter Jackson hasn't barely done anything for 20 years now because he's been doing Hobbit movies I think he really likes it I mean no one no one like that someone does I think the perfect example for me of the difference between an original film and original IP as they call it and intellectual property racial property and a reboot is the the kind of the closeness of Godzilla and Pacific Rim I'm sure someone would have said to guillermo del toro would you go and make a Godzilla movie and he said well he went and made a movie that was like Godzilla but just way more crazy and out there and the Godzilla not good and it's so much better than Godzilla the Godzilla movie is just a Godzilla movie it's like you know exactly what's gonna happen in that movie but the effects are a bit more advanced I'm sure you're right about this Godzilla theorem thing they're not even better the effect and then you've got sailor movie than the old ones they're just more CGI II they don't look better they don't feel scary I find much more I find the effects of the original movies much more compelling then I do the kind of the gloss ccgi sheen they fight for a bit and then the camera cuts away to Aaron taylor-johnson they fight for exactly the right amount of time I decide for any longer it with all the fighting would cease to be impactful and amazing which it was we again stop like if if if you have if you are a director and you want to sort of like it take on take on a project like that and if you want to try and breathe new life into something or like experiment with your own ideas because all of these reboots like they do have like a little bit of like although some of them are rubbish they all they all are different you know they usually have like a little creative stamp or like they go in a different direction to the sort of original and sometimes like with transformers that turns out to be just horrible yes but you know like it is a creative direction and I think what's wrong with getting more eyeballs on the thing that you're trying to make by tying it to something that people you know love and fondly remember because I think it's I think it's I think it's lazy it's a it's conservative and it's it's it's kind of it's just sort of it's it's not giving the benefit of the doubt to the audience I think all right well we want to know what you guys think about reboots are you ok with them or do you think that they are doing harm let us know I'm request away seen its rich Trenholm thanks for watching
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