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good morning on Thursday September 22nd it is time for us to force you through one more episode of the 359 podcast with Roger Cheng and Ben Fox Rubin good morning here we are yeah happy thursday everyone yeah end of the week for us always for our show yes so it's been it's been a busy week lots of news where we're gonna end uh I have to work from home tomorrow I hope that's okay you're asking me this now yes on you to let you make it out ain't no curse you been we're gonna end the week with it with another busy show we're gonna try to pack in for headlines today yep we've been talking about reports that Yahoo it will confirm that again it got hacked losing 200 million users these are accounts user got out getting them then actually lose the users themselves well that don't happen eventually right we'll also be talking about a Donald Trump all of a sudden supporting Ted Cruz in opposing the US handover of control or oversight of the Internet you're gonna have to help you with this one yeah well it's a little wonky but I'll walk you through it we'll talk a bit about that Priscilla Chan Mark Zuckerberg new initiative to cure all diseases he pretty ambitious and then lastly a verizon dashing the hopes of anyone hoping for an element of data plan very sad again me just I'm still sad about yeah they're just driving a dagger deeper into your heart so let's make it half so let's as always if you have any questions about Amy's topics leave them in the comments section or producer Brian will pick out the best then boom will try to adorn our best handsome all right let's get started all right time to record the podcast be back in three minutes and 59 seconds from 32 welcome to the 359 we talked about the top tech news of the day we have the crap we want to throw it I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox ribbon do you still use yahoo well chances are you might have been hit by a massive hack that NAB 200 million usernames and passwords yahoo hasn't confirmed the hack yet but it has been conducting investigations it's August what do you think that did that they are gonna day is expected today that they will actually confirm this but now we have gone official work yet yeah my question to most people are are you worried because you have an old yahoo account i do you yahoo account i have two old yahoo accounts i don't think that there's a lot of information in there as far as like my personal information compared to my like facebook account right nobody wants their stuff stolen you end up using the same password sometimes that's prob yeah my I'm actually conservatives I do have a yahoo mail account that I can't use a cup a burner e milk it's like where I signed up for all my junk mail so Yahoo yeah that's how bad do you think this is for the new parent company though is this gonna happen after the verizons about to acquire them I think that they're gonna have some serious implications I mean security the reputation for security is a big deal for verizon and having yahoo tour drop the ball like that yeah not not that great yeah next up Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are all of a sudden Sympatico a Trump joins cruz in opposing the u.s. seating oversight of the internet to a non-profit third-party organization called icon icon I see a NN you know this has been a big article it's a big political battle has been for a while Cruz has been leading the charge against this transition which has been proposed since 2014 help me out here yep why why is this transition going on and why is it political I mean like this to me seems like a bunch of backend stuff why don't ruse and Trump involved so the US has traditionally had control over our heads oversight over how these domain naming systems work in the dns basically runs these IP addresses which translates the URL the addresses that we use between when we go on the internet and so there has been sort of a transition in place to kind of move it from the u.s. to a third-party organization that's more neutral so it's not one country controlling crews are now Trump believe that you know us lose a seating oversight means us losing control potentially countries like Russia taking over the ad and we lose our American exceptionalism exactly main naming that's important Steve shanklin a great faq looking at this company bunking that theory and actually the idea of moving it to this neutral third party organization would be more beneficial most tech company support this because it definitely Spurs innovation and it isn't beholden to anyone countries agenda thing all right what do we got next next up well the big headline yesterday Priscilla Chan and Mark Zuckerberg launching their their initiative to the three billion dollars to cure all diseases this is like the moon shot of moon shots right sure hey what do you think I like the idea that all the time that I've wasted on Facebook has actually resulted in some good in the world so I for one celebrate this initiative and good for them yeah good slowly go with it hopefully this is this actually pays off Bill Gates was there a lot of it was a who's who's of Silicon Valley yesterday lastly a verizon has once again confirmed that there will be no unlimited data plan coming they've kept a pretty consistent tone about this but it comes after t-mobile's per ATT have all sort of touted a limited data as new offering and so I know as your verizon customer you frustrated yeah I mean Verizon's been known for being pretty parsimonious with their data so yeah this is just a continuation of that and as a verizon customer yeah that makes me a little annoyed that they're just never going to open that door yeah the CFO spoke at a goldman sachs conference today said people don't need unlimited data plans and we like the idea of them just give them to us they're easy matter what there you go all right liked any of these stories check us out on see that I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Rubin thanks listening turn my microphone on to joining the show ah we are cut on the audio podcast recording and I want to start filtering through the chat yeah and I'm anticipating I'm kind of with you been on the sentiment of the Facebook thing is like I hope something good comes with this and hey just candy crush saga yeah definitely I mean is three billion already and that initiative is expected to do to put more than like 40 billion dollars off their wealth yeah to a variety of initiatives the like help the world so hey I guess good for them I mean there is a problem with it in that it's set up as an LLC instead of a non-profit which is the more control yeah but like a lot of people have like raised complaints about that that like is this just like a big scam to try to avoid taxes so I don't I don't think I hope it's not me I'm not that cynical yeah I believe that that's like the move but I think it's still why not set it up as a non-profit I don't know and uh but I Priscilla Chan Mark's wife is a pediatrician so there's definitely a skin in game she she knows it from a technical level hmm sort of what can be achieved so that's that's a good sign right yeah yeah it's not just uh just not just some rich person just throwing money at a cause I'm not sure she definitely has and know how to come help execute on this mm-hmm Louis in the chat is a he wants to talk about the the yahoo hack he says I was one of the victims they somehow got into my Instagram as well had to delete both yahoo and instantly yeah now was it because you are curious is it because you shared passwords or you use common passwords usernames really or you have not that i would ever do this but you would have like an email draft folder with all of your passwords on it maybe maybe some i really hope you don't have that a friend of mine might have wow there's a there's a large sentiment in the chat as well from Cyrus to Jeremy and beyond that it's kind of our own fault for this is like why are you still using yahoo back yeah OHL accountable there are a lot of yahoo accounts yahoo had actually correct me from wrong here but gmail had overtaken yahoo mail only in recent years yeah some people people are creatures of habit and we still have our yahoo accounts and unfortunately we also like when we stopped using certain accounts we don't shut them down the way yeah shut yeah i still have a hotmail account dude i don't like it i still get emails for a while i just linked into it it's linked to my linkedin account my older brother has a rocket mail account that i said oh yeah I think that was gobbled up by like Microsoft or yahoo a long long time ago but it still says at rocket mail is so Randall says cnet how do you suggest we protect ourselves from hacks like in yahoo well if you look if you're already exposed I mean obviously the first thing is to change all of your username and passwords or your password too lazy the biggest thing you can do activate two-factor authentication right that's the sort of the biggest week the best way to protect yourself and that's you know having a whatever email provider sends you a random code to your cell phone that you have to entering the second password that you have to enter that's really the best way to protect yourself I mean there's these hacks are gonna happen like we could blame yahoo for it but you know frankly it's it's just it's a matter of time before these services all kind of get hit it's become pretty typical right it's a pretty common thing so having two factor authentication means that even if they have your username password if they don't have your cell phone then they can't get into your account right it's just another hoop to jump through my gmail account was hacked a couple years ago and I switched to two-step authentication yeah I can vouch for the fact that I haven't been hacked since so know that I know of but this in this case my gmail was hacked and they spammed all my friends okay they were like I need money send it to this address so you know yep mm-hmm Jeremy says we need one big button on all of our services to just shut it down that would be great it's a kill switch does a kill switch for anything of the internet would be awesome mm too much power I mean for your own accounts not what everyone what if you're like drunken friend got a hold of your kill switch two-factor authentication yeah there you go there you go yeah Saul's everything my friend so can we go back to the I can yeah I'm still like really kind of curious as far as like so the so US government was in control of all like the domain naming that's uh it was the the US National Telecommunications and Information Administration NTIA I think had a contract but to basically be responsible for doling out IP addresses and usernames within the us out over later national world okay and so the idea was that it would see that that responsibility to a third party or third party it's the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and numbers that sounds very thing they love their academia the government won't and the internet I guess but yeah so they've had this control for a while and Cruz and Trump believe that and you know this this is gonna affect freedom of speech on the Internet I i can has said like you know being responsible for donating names and IP addresses doesn't affect the content of the internet so that is how about I think there's like this critical misunderstanding of what's going on right but also shows like just general skepticism of you know certain international bodies i mean yeah it's been typical of some politicians well whether it's like the Paris Accord or right now like The Hague different things I said the ironic thing is what what Trump and Cruz are supporting their they actually support a more united nations run or over the United Nations group that would oversee the administration of these IP addresses think of it is is that would subject that organization would be subjected to the influence of countries like Russia and China the same countries that they're afraid are going to take over the internet if we see control you know their party the UN is so good at getting anything done so I'd love to see the inner wall I mean we've had just our recent visits to the UN I've show just the amount of like red tape I could suit just to get into the UN not like to access anything like literally just to visit the UN the amount of red tape that we hit to the amount of acronyms that we had to decipher just an to get our passes the internet needs something like that I would say if you want to open a new twitter account you should do stuff just like that Jeremy definitely changed your password changer yahoo password yep set up two step authentication actually Kevin and the chat has been very very helpful he's even suggesting using a password manager like LastPass I yeah myself although black selfless act that is true nothing is sacred right but today nothing is completely one under percent safe yep um but the more so you're gonna make yourself more secure you can and just pile it on make the password situation complicated for yourself it'll make a server everybody and also make sure your password doesn't include any public information right like birthdays or wife's name or you know just make sure the password is not simple it's not one two three four five or Superman which I think are still like top 10 passwords I don't yeah our password or password is to know i think that the top one is the top one is 123456 work yeah not giving a lie passwords away sorry one two three four five there's a six in there somewhere to outlook versus gmail what do you think's more secure that's a good question i haven't been using i haven't used outlook for sign up in a gmail user for a long long time and i haven't had but and google is typically known for being pretty good with their technology but like i said before my gmail was hacked and i don't really know how so it's it's not like I bazar de tous me oh ok password interesting yeah so um but yeah that one was also a particularly annoying one because I had a bunch of friends ping me and say like hey are you in trouble are you in trouble do you need money and I'm like no I rest assured I would have I would have paid you don't worry hmm what about you like trouble think what I guess he's in trouble ok so I I don't actually have an answer to that yes there's weather which one is better than the other that's the thing it's matter of like I feel like it's a matter of time before everyone gets hit it so it's dark yeah unfortunately it's kind of terrible yeah I mean I've had a couple of instances where I've had my identity stolen hmm um yeah so usually any time now I get maybe a little too thorough maybe a little extra paranoid but if something I use gets hacked and it's somehow associated accounts tied through whatever authentication I'll just trickle down that that river and just start changing everything that could possibly be web together we have Gunnar so art any especially anything with e-commerce of course yeah it's a pay the buck but it's smart but yeah I'm pretty sure I know for sure I've been like involved in a couple hacks Home Depot you t-mobile no no in terms of like my accounts I'm sure my accounts have been compromised at some point cuz there's at least three or four big retailers or wireless carriers that been hacked that I know I was I did business what so yeah target target was probably had one for me yeah let's talk about password managers kevin is suggesting secure he's all thinking about keep pass got another potential option we mentioned last past that's one password yep what other good options are there out there those are pretty solid those are the ones i reckon LastPass is the one I usually recommend aside from the fact that I gotta act itself yeah yeah I can't think of any other can't talk ahead these are more good ones those and those are typically the ones that get names you know for that kind of thing so yeah that's that's definitely a good start keep yourself safe out there we'll probably wrap it up for the week okay yeah it's been a good week busy week thanks to everybody for joining us in the chat yeah factory comments as always and we'll see all next week if you liked anything you saw her here check us out on cnet our podcast is also available on itunes google play music cloud feedburner tunein radio thank you thank you been see you all Monday