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good morning on Tuesday november eighth it's election day and we voted and were here for the daily podcast 359 episode 137 with Roger Cheng and Joanie salesman good morning everybody how are we morning morning are you guys doing at the election day we actually be all about it can we officially use that prefix happy to be yeah we'll see we'll see ya having um civic responsibilities every true I absolutely agree so that's worthy of celebration um Oh we'll see tonight so we're here to record a podcast yes yes let's get going on that so we skip at without we're talking about the the hyperloop one using a a they're actually getting started this is actually gonna happen in the United Arab Emirates they announced the plans to build this thing for 2020 so it's not just a pipe dream it's not just Elan losses crazy sketches on a napkin it's it's a thing next up will be talking about Samsung issuing another baya Copa both in a full-page ad in several US papers today as well as a letter written customers in Europe then lastly our own Dara Kerr had an inside look at the secret oh maybe it's not so secret Facebook group not a secret anymore Austin nation Thank what's your right with two million members I guess isn't really much of a secret but but yes well we'll take a look at that sort of a topical election theme story to round things out so with that let's let's get started as always if you've any questions leave them in the comments section Brian will grab the best and we'll we'll try to answer looking forward to hearing your feedback and talking tech with you after we record the podcast in three two welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day I live the crap we want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Joni salzman so hyper loop one announced that it will build its super fast transport system in the United Arab Emirates first the cubby promises to get you from a buddha by Abu Dhabi to Dubai in 12 minutes trip that usually takes about two hours by bus so Joan are you ready for the Hyperloop I'm ready for Hyperloop to move from the make cool trailers about Hyperloop phase it's actually making Hyperloop yes if you check out the video that's on our site right now it's its thumping bass music it's it really got me amped up to yeah sure that may or may not be sure that at least several years away but but like you said only three years alright 2020 theoretically this is all goes smoothly yeah and it's supposed to be the start of a network of systems first the United Arab Emirates but really they want to they want to build sort of a set of these things around the world yeah what is it like what's the thing they say is San Francisco to New York and four hours or something like right we'll wait that's gonna do yeah is that right maybe faster faster should be faster right I feel like it should be faster should be much much faster faster better uh either way if it cuts off on time and I don't have to go through TSA security then yeah yeah I'm all for Hyperloop I'm all for being put into this little tube and shuttled at what 500 600 miles an hour yeah I'll for it all for it dangers are risky huh be damned all right next up more samsung news Samsung issued a open letter of apology to its galaxy note 7 users in Europe and it as well as took took out a full-page ad in several major US newspapers CEO greg lee apologize you know say they're truly sorry about the defective and dangerous notes evans is this enough to kind of get people to to forget about it or to give Samsung one of the things that they say in the ad is we know that what I can't remember the words but it's like we know that your loyalty has to be earned all right it's not your loyalties earned not given I mean it's saying all the things that you need to say but it's easy to say things in an ad it's yeah that's important out like Volkswagen think did the same thing they took a full-page ad after their massive recall well sprocket holes from tech related but it was right it's the same deal like they've they've also violated the public's trust I mean we'll see like I think Volkswagen and ethical Fargo hasn't really doesn't really rebound it yet so I don't know we'll see you know the espa depends on whether or not the s8 kind of blows people away or we'll see I don't know it's a just more more troubles for samsung then going and saying I'm sorry a lot is the right thing to say yes the thing I'm hoping that they follow up with I'm sorry and here's what happened here's what here's why here's what the next phone's not gonna blow up your face all right lastly our own Derek her as an inside look at the the secret so-called secret facebook group pantsuit nation that exploded in popularity just really a day before the election it really went viral racked up two million members and there's a even a public version of this page you know it's provided safe space for folks to comment which is increasingly important and this this really vitriolic season I mean wait what do you think is this is this gonna help Hillary or what what's the deal well there's nothing that that's not gonna hurt Hillary to have people who love her getting together and tell me each other why they love her that can't hurt I mean do you think that's gonna I mean is this for the start of any kind trend for private groups or I think that it's interesting that this election season has emphasized how much social media can be it can be a kind of noisy uncomfortable space yeah there's preferable that disagree with you and when their rhetoric can be abusive or lessen it's easy to say things in an unkind way if you have an amenity well just check out this lots of feed yeah there's less of that on facebook then there isn't places like Twitter yeah but um but there could be something in the idea that private groups become more popular if you're looking for a way to share your own thoughts without having to worry about yeah other people attacking you for them definitely all right for more about these stories check us out on Cena I'm Roger J I'm Joanie salzman thanks for listening so just out of curiosity how much our ticket price is looking like for the Hyperloop do we have any idea what that speculation is it's got to be daunting I think they're so far with ya ok I don't I don't know the whole deal about this is supposed to be attainable yeah yeah so they got a strife or something but right we'll just have to wait and see although night near the first I don't know after the first couple tickets are free they like you aren't right like take your shot you know all the dice with this thing you gotta wonder who would be on the front line for volunteers for that test flight test earnest quote-unquote flight oh so just to just to clear it up apparently the they've clocked the top speed of 760 miles per hour Wow yeah yeah i mean that's cool that's pretty cool that's cool however you look at it that's cool anybody in the chat interested in taking the Hyperloop we want to hear your feedback how much would you pay for a ticket to go from your origin to your destination just putting that out there really be a Hyperloop what do you think is a fair price for that kind of service I dolla yeah not the MTA I would be outraged of them seats for dollars though for dollars if you bought like a toy trip pass right there's a guy in fault cuz it's really been snacks like on an airplane but they're sprinting down the aisle whipping peanuts at your face cuz there's not enough time um I don't know actually that's that's a fair question I don't know how much i'd pay probably i don't know clutter bucks i guess if i can get to from here to LA and what an hour yeah wait so it's baidu Abu Dhabi in in 12 minutes and that's a two-hour trip normally like LA to New York it's like five hours if you kind of do the math that's like 45 minutes or so that's but an hourish I would say yeah like an hour I mean getting to la an hour would be fantastic so let's start with the base base price point how much are you paying now to go to LA not like 300 bucks yeah there's no you think paying a little more than that would be worthwhile I'll probably pay a little bit more yeah yeah at the interest um for those of our listeners international who have traveled to Abu Dhabi and whatnot what do you pay now and what do you think would be a fair hike to speed the process up I'm just curious I'm really curious to see where this could go no I imagine what those things were initially the price is gonna be pretty high yeah of course you know it's new but the whole idea of these things it's attainable it's supposed to come down price the whole thing is supposed to be fairly cost effective to run so right if it was if it was completely on affordable it wouldn't survive no no one's gonna use it then what's the point I'm definitely interested uh scanning the chat thanks everybody we're looking at here some price points $200 100 pounds 45 to 60 okay 50 to 80 20 to 40 he's a pretty standard you know yeah transit prices must took it yeah basically sounds about right yeah um I'm okay with that I'd be okay with the cheaper price what what kind of services should be available on the Hyperloop with everything like it in loop movies or something it's just our podcasts like sure yeah right haha the YouTube clip of the podcast would be too long totally would be right flatly for that initial run at 12 minutes but yeah watch I guess will you can I mean would you have in Hyperloop connectivity because you couldn't connect your cellular network no probably not but think it's probably a way that they could probably deliver something at UV like the internals and internal Wi-Fi sort of yeah I don't know if its internal Wi-Fi are like maybe maybe they'll help just pre-loaded youtube videos in the pod itself like I can imagine connectivity at that speed okay yeah that would be I mean of course I do it earlier they kind of do it on here theoretically possible yeah yeah now this is out of my realm I'll say yeah yeah I don't know I like a moving Sun hundred miles an hour and on the ground don't know probably all I wish can pick up on that baked potato games is probably just a video about Hyperloop yeah they're just gonna loop promo video service at night hey they're exciting videos love us now they're all like boom boom boom just it's very it's very catchy I was very pumped afterward here's a good question i don't know if we're not really physicist here but what what stops the feeling of g-force from inside the Hyperloop well G forces when you are increasing or decreasing momentum right like that's the feeling that you feel and so I don't know enough about how Hyperloop works um that's a really good question i don't know there's a really good question getting on that speed how you let me call mr. muskie yeah I mean I imagine you'd feel something initially and then that would be it right like once you hit your speed you're fine though yeah it's really that a physicist yeah it's really the the take-off and the landing or the beginning of the at the end of the ride that you'd feel something I guess I don't know that Ben points out that the slow speed up removes a gene much like the acceleration on a lot of roller coasters I suppose in a similar ride concept correct me if I'm wrong please I'm very often seven minutes of the 12-minute trap is just like getting up to speed and slowing down baby and then and throwing up there going out so yes there's the back to services on the Hyperloop do we need barf bags yet do we need bathrooms that would be interesting to see uh so sorry to all of our international listeners and viewers out there but we're gonna talk election real quick how was everybody's election or polling process this morning out of it well yeah mine was pretty smooth yeah I mean I live down the burbs we have fairly short lines everything was really organized you knows it was not bad you didn't get a sticker though I didn't get a sticker poorly organized and I'm like looking at your NYC scary cuz is really cool like one of our colleagues offered to give me an extra one of her time like I'm not in NYC voter I don't even can't even qualify for that I stole an extra sticker the election is rigged for your daughter for my daughter how's the thing I wanted to get one for my son but yeah it's not gonna care another he's second it does either way going back to the former topic sleepy engineer thank you for putting this out you'd only feel the acceleration but not at the cruising speed but when you're in an airplane there's compression involved we're curious as to how that applies and being that you are an engineer maybe you could help us out how does this apply on land transportation on this hyper speed Hyperloop Travie yeah I agree on cruising speed like once you're at you're obviously yeah you'll be fine it's the it's the beginning of the end being that we're not engineers we're not physicist we do EV alone in planes you feel it when you're taking off right you feel the acceleration and then the pressure stabilizes in the cabin right because of technology that I don't understand in airplanes sleep engineer please help us out here I think you might have a more background for us well he's got the name for it for sure it's not mean engineer it is pretty early in the morning for some people so back to back to election so we had a really good question yesterday on the show somebody asked like could there ever be in app voting you know now I am voting and we've like it's a curious thought but a dangerous thought like it'd be very easy to exploit we've had everything from paper polls to some electronic polls I I personally had the scantron yeah at the scantron some interesting what other technologies could improve voting processes outside of just like text to vote yeah right well one of the things I don't not incredibly inform this but one of the things that makes our electoral system safe as the fact that it's not connected to yeah a massive network in order to have some sort of like vote by text or text or vote by your phone you would have to you it'd be so hard to divorce that from the kind of connectivity and security issues that would make it challenging to implement though it would be wonderful in terms of get off the boat efforts if you made it so simple that anyone but then you also raise these issues where could that be a disenfranchisement for people who can't afford to have powerful trap you know like I mean I don't I I don't foresee polling places going away but yeah and like you said in the effort to get out and vote one of the things that could improve the process like as you as we said we collectively here had a pretty pleasant experience yeah there are lines yeah it takes a couple minutes but honestly as I said before the show started if the entire candidacy was as polite and smooth as my voting process went this morning it would have been a much better year yeah right well that's because there's also laws saying that you can't campaign at a polling place so maybe why it was Politis because people are legally not allowed to be rude about their candidate there people have broken the law before yeah jerks yeah heads it's what I'm saying is it's one place where there are limitations to free speech and free speech is more important than like politeness sure you know what I mean yeah yeah I think it was more matter i think what Brian's saying those it was less like there wasn't pushing or shoving or anything like that that kind of yeah the quorum was yeah yeah yeah here we go here's a really good point being that we're also connected and online and registered for a thousand different things that we opt into anyways automatic registration automatic with what was like butter in your automatic voter registration when as soon as you turn 18 you're registered voter instead of going through the process manually mmm if you were just ace it isn't an electronic something huh I could see some village of that there are folks unlike me who are lazy and didn't register to vote for a while so uh uh that I mean yeah I find that a good idea I think that is a good idea like whether or not because if you skipped one headache yeah it's still up to you whether or not you want to vote but totally get past the one hurdle I mean that was my big thing when I moved from LA to New York like I was still voting in California for a while but after a while like I lost that right right never registered in New York so the registration process can be very confusing yeah Gaby I made a few like if you're starting from zero from scratch yeah i mean it's it's pretty easy and what if it didn't just things well I mean what if you it just automatically followed you like if you did chain if you moved and didn't have to go that would be huge district 8 it followed you from district to district or state to state that would be great like it was just sort of up to date but yeah again it goes back to that's the whole bringing innovation technology but that also brings security concerns and issues with I don't know that's I think of course it's all I mean that's largely I feel like that's why we haven't really progressed in terms of voting technology is the fear that oh we're just pipe dreaming here yeah we are I would be interested to see that I think that's a really good idea Ben thank you for suggesting that any other ideas well we're still been from yesterday I'm I can't I I think so not one hundred percent certain it could very welcome back then if you're the same guy and if you're not welcome period there you go sylviane says none keep it low tech keep it fair if you want to make a vote make the effort that's also really really good point yeah absolutely we're saying like by making it easy to easy to vote then that has its own issues right like that invites like patrollers element to come in right like having that extra required that extra effort to go out and though definitely kind of weeds out folks who would vote as a joke yeah that's a good point to a lot of got points today boaty mcboatface baked potato game says I mean my google assistant knows what city I'm in why can't the voting registration why can't the registers know it's difficult man it is yeah is walk around with google assistant let Google assistant vote for you that's that's a really bad idea Alexa is the make the right decision I know that is a bad precedent it has been from yesterday hi Ben thank you again rise we're happy to have you welcome back um we got some anti Hyperloop sentiment okay please share well i mean obvious the danger aspect yeah the Hyperloop is basically an unrealistic concept if there is a break in the tube or change in pressure too great it'd be a train hitting the passengers yeah that's true right like it's it's supposed to be like this complete seal and that's what helps with the whatever achieving all those in 10 speed so if there's ever like a crack or if it gets punctured at any point absolutely but i mean these are risks that were taken for the space shuttle for submarines right for the original automotive to an extent anytime they want to make a leap forward in technology especially transportation where there are bodies within a device that you you got to take risks and I mean I'm sure they're sparing no expense that's not her eyeball board man like i said i fucking if i can get to LA in an hour sign me up and the concept is an exercise in Japan its Otis know so I think I misread this I apologize I think he's stating the registration concept we were speaking Oh or it's an effect in Japan got it no no that makes a lot of sense you could remove a hurdle but you still have to be you still have to make the effort to go on vote I agree yeah all right I think that's a good place to end it for today all right then thanks everybody thanks my Ben and everybody get out vote if you haven't please go on bug and 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