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our shows at the new plants today we'll be talking about a lot of robots yeah we've got some new news on the Sony AIBO the new Sony AIBO that robot dog that they showed off the CES we got a bit more details on that Ben's gonna talk about that on the podcast we'll be talking about LG's planned exoskeleton suit bought the sounds cuz it sounds way cooler than I though by the way soup pot soup body it's a wearable robot soup it's a soup so you drink it's a suit that you wear no soup for you man alright then lastly we'll be talking about the the DNC hack that was in the hack now furs got all the details as always if you have any questions leave them in the comment section but I will pick out the best and we'll get them in 3 minutes or 59 seconds see then and three two welcome to the 359 I wonder Chang I'm Ben Fox Reba and I'm out for dang you willing to spend almost $3,000 on a robot dog well Sony has the pup for you Ben's got all the details on the new I Bo wait I do yeah yeah yeah it's $2,900 it's the that's all you need to know bundle I don't know why they made the bundle so much more than what what exactly comes by it includes dog toys they have they have the quote I bone the I bone for the eyebrows and also a pink ball which is reminiscent of the original I bow that they discontinued 12 years ago so what does it actually do why would I want to spend three it's literally a robot companion it doesn't really serve much of a practical function as far as I can tell it does have a ton of really cool tech built into it but basically it's meant to be like a companion robot it goes and it finds you talks to you or like it barks at you you can teach you tricks it can map your house but yeah it's it's basically like meant to mimic a dog but not be a dog all right speaking of robots LG says it will show off a wearable suit bot next week at the ephah trade show it's essentially an exoskeleton that you wear to enhance your strength it's really for factory workers moving heavy boxes that sounds totally sweet you know what this is and you'll be a Tifa next week I should really try this this reminds me of the exoskeleton that they had at CES one year that made you old made you a geezer this is way better this is pretty much the exact opposite no this isn't the first time we've seen exoskeleton suits that that augment your physical capabilities but this is part of their new LG's sort of focus on robots and AI and all this all this new fancy tech stuff hmm but basically how close are we to pull blown Ironman suit I mean really hopefully by this pretty far from that holiday parade but yeah this looks nothing like Ironman really all you need are the arms and it's kind of like the beginning of the also need a laser cannon in your chest not that for the laser cannon I just want the suit part that's the limited edition that is a actually comes on the I load the laser because that's worth two thousand nine hundred dollars at least yeah so we'll get more details on this next week unfortunately Ben will be at Aoife in Berlin - hopefully check this out in person yeah lastly the dnc there was a bit of a security scare with the DNC yesterday but it turned out to be a bit of a false alarm Alfred what happened here so security researchers on Wednesday basically discovered a phishing page that looked identical to vote builder which is what the DNC uses for their voter database so you know this kind of brought back this whole sense of are they trying to hack our election are they trying to send this to our like DNC staffers to try to get their logins and their passwords which is what these security researchers had believed so the DNC looked more into it yesterday and then they basically discovered this was a false alarm yes there was a fake page of vote builder but it wasn't built by any foreign adversaries or anything like that it was built by it was built by basically a test like like a test for like a lot of websites do these where they test their own employees to see if websites wait so this is built by the DNC not by the DNC but somebody within like a Democrat like Organization there were reports NBC and PC Mag both reported that it came from the Michigan Democratic Party I've reached out to them to confirm that but apparently somebody within those ranks basically commissioned this test and didn't tell anybody about it oh my god so there was this whole like big concern about that well given the DNC's past history with hacks i guess it's it's good that they're being extra yeah I honestly much better for them to be cautious about this than to just think it's probably nothing all right for more on these stories check us out and see that remoter check I'm Ben Fox ribbon I'm Alfred aying thanks for listening yeah good way to go nice job guys you're actually nailed four minutes that's Roger gave me one talking point about I bow it was it seems like I'm why I want to talk about making fun of it I was well I wanted to talk about the LG one that seemed way cooler than the robot I disagree with you the LG thing doesn't have a personality you know how much the suit bot I mean I don't know I think this is a concept I don't think we know unfortunate and if it's for factory workers it's gonna be priced for the enterprise which means I'm thinking like if somebody comes up to you and says like would you rather have this robot dog companion or these robot legs that you can put on and like helps you lift stuff and like probably kick things much harder like which would you pick yeah the freaking legs see I thought I was gonna be the one that was gonna be down on I bow on the show but you guys are even more down on it oh it's it's $3,000 I kind of I thought you could hate something more than me Joe that being said that I think you guys are significantly discounting the enormous amount of I both loyalists fervor there no it's just small definitely that kind of retro nostalgia oh my god thousand dollars no they do they take them to the robot dog park and they do have they do have like AI bow meetups but there were people you should go to you should Japan maybe I should do this down so there were people that love their AI bows and like really enjoyed having them so much that they would spend hundreds of dollars to repair them after Sony stopped doing maintenance work on his I bows in 2014 so like people don't just like these things they love them and I get it again you could form an emotional attachment there and they serve as a companions and Sony is very intentionally creating like a lot of elements to say like it's worth $3,000 by saying by saying they're know - I Bose are the same they have a because what they do is is that they actually like experience things and so like from the people they don't remember yeah I remember interactions they actually develop a personality these are all the things they're trying to trigger I mean get interest in the AIBO community I would have been interested in like this for my kid if they were like 50 bucks or something like a hundred yeah even a hundred consider it maybe when my kid gets older but $3,000 is a lot of money it was the original Ivo was two thousand dollars which when factoring in inflation it's fairly similar and you get the I bone so I don't know why I'm defending this thing because I don't actually think it's not going beyond a niche product at that price you could literally I wrote this in my store you could buy two mid-range MacBook Pros for the right price are you a spokesperson nice try Sony questions are we doing that now I hate it but it's awesome let's get an eyeball in here we'll paint our logo on the side it'll be our official mascot Jacob Lombardo is kind of stemming off of this recent sympathy that you guys are just discussing seriously who in the world can this possibly be catered to this is the greatest thing I've ever heard a robot dog he scoffs I would assume that it's for very lonely people you know like older people I mean companionship they're marking in it marketing it as like companionship like they have you know like stuffed animal onic like seals or whatever yeah Patrick Holland did a great story on that like like the dog it's like they look duck these kids suffer from cancer like to help with their treatment they have these like robot ducks like Affleck ducks I guarantee that those are not $3,000 though probably not yeah and this is not meant for that kind of thing I mean I suppose you could use it for that kind of thing but it's really meant more for a mainstream audio we rented a mainstream audience they get important a $3,000 dog like twice or so it's for lonely rich people yeah it's only a banana what could it cost like $10 that's what an expensive banana you just pulled a total Lucille Bluth there didn't you yeah you know that's the thing like what mainstream for the $3,000 robot dog like get out it get out of here all right Alfred here's some money go see a star war Michael Brown is officially relabeled burger Larry and as the eyeball whisperer so one thing I love it Ivo whisper from Michael Brown as well what's the purpose of this robot dog and what's the difference between I bow and the small toy dogs in the toy stores hashtag r.i.p Toys R Us yo those those toy dogs in the toy stores are awful I got them for Christmas two years in a row you mean those little one Mike last year's lit yeah no no not those like they they had some stuff like a very smart dogs like something like that but they kind of looks like Ivo but they were like oh you could plug it into like your your like iPod and it dances or something like that and it was just like it was really crappy and I was a terrible Christmas gift dad yeah so I would say the difference of this one's probably like much smarter and like dozen more yes more what does it actually do it like goes and it's it's interesting it goes and seeks you out and it wants to control you have a conversation it can recognize a hundred different faces or a member so know if you're like sad and like comfort you or ill know if you're like happy and like dance around or something it does it can detect smiles or words of praise I don't know if it can detect if you're sad or nine into ten you can also create it and it will respond if you pet it on its head under its chin or put to sleep or something I don't know you know it can find its own charging point because it port because it Maps your house so it's it's gotten so nice oh it's a Roomba that yips why doesn't it just go at least the Roomba is clean your flooring but answering Michael Browns question is the the from a companion standpoint this is in effect the same thing conceptually as a pet rock because a pet rock you just have it in a shoebox you have it as your friend you take care of it whatever but like it's it just does more than a pet rock but it's like a companionship thing it's just like it has the capability to do like actual like practical things like it has like cameras on its eyes and like sensors and stuff to like map out the house like if this was marketed like oh this is like a like companion like robot or something but also it can patrol your house at night for like any potential burglars or anything I do that no it's not good at that what hey I don't even have any knives dude so no that's the premium model that's only the eye knife for Sony did mention that through the app you can go get a video feed of like the dog so you could use it you can see what the dog is seeing yes yes so you could use it as a quote-unquote watchdog grouse move around like gross okay I hate it Wow I had to touch it I hate it I hate it yeah touchy hate it Wow Chloe they make me like it danced you had to my kit which oh am I thinking of the wrong one I think I'm on the wrong one what was the the creepy bot the humanoid bot no no this is a humanoid Bob this was like a small bird thing oh the one that took the nosedive off the desk yeah and I didn't save it it was adorable hardcore but it just didn't work yeah I know what you're talking about okay not gross take it take it back yeah hey let's get some more questions we're gonna run out of time yeah our wallop says it's a lot of money how much would you spend for a real dog though dog food and vet bills and that brings me to another question when this thing dies do you have to go to the shop you have to take it to like an engineer or does it go to a vet you bury it in your backyard dude take it apart you know I'm assuming there's some sort of service plan or something there's a service plan yeah they have like a puppy like AppleCare kind of thing yes they're constantly trying to upsell don't spend this money on a robot dog especially when there are so many robot dogs in shelters that you can adopt you know and there we go mm-hmm but to your original question I mean like a purebred will cost like three thousand five thousand dollars right so there are pure brides that costs anywhere between a thousand plus and that doesn't even take and then overseeing it you can adopt a dog free but you're right there is that cost of feeding it taking care of it but the other I swear to god like I know doesn't puts an apples to oranges comparison you're talking about a robot dog which is a toy that was a question of living being though it is true but it's not even remotely the same right I vote as a poop so there's that one point in its favor you'd have to clean up dog poop it doesn't go they did it doesn't eat it doesn't stink so what does it do doesn't have steak after a while does it have Google AI or Alexa capabilities it has should it has Clym Oh turn on the stereo yeah it has cloud-based artificial intelligence which utilizes what is the ws what is it come on you know exactly what I'm bass artificial you know I know but was it what does that mean to look at normal person I remember I would never say oh this thing is cloud pay say ìokay I remember every kid you know like around December around the holiday season would you know they'd go to Santa at the mall Santa I want a puppy that has cloud based AI based on the AWS what's the what's the the Christmas story I want to admittedly all our best podcasts are me just getting dunked on for 20 minutes so is the audience coming back fine that's what I'm here for Ricky B is kind of worried about that somebody might hack the dog you'd be able to scoop up a house that's holy that'll probably happen especially if it's cloud-based the dog will attack you there's there's a very high chance that this is like some security researcher will find vulnerabilities on this how many times have we seen like vulnerabilities with AWS based services what is that what we should look into that I'd be kind of interested to see if we could get like we should hire a hacker to see if they can crack the dog and we're gonna see that story's inevitable someone's gonna be able to hack in all these things and use the cameras the dogs cameras to check out what yeah or instead of barking it'll get it to say something offensive or uses OLED eyes to do this is like Ocean's thirteen or something like like a heist movie where they like hacking the dogs camera can scope out the what Kingsman Kingsman right scope out the house so you know what exactly to either steal stuff or break in or the dog explodes right if it's Kingsman like this nah you're gonna be amazing exposure that the robot dog thing was in the second movie actually really I realize that they had two robot dogs okay yeah don't get a robot dog robot dogs but they were like killing robot dogs so I just want somebody to hack the dog have a roll me like I can't do that Dave can I speak can I take noises it that's always dogs why can't they be a robot cat hey that's the exact question coming in from it was a peck who was asking this I totally lost track of who was asking this know Timothy do Timothy do says how come there's no love for robot cats and do they think that they're gonna make any other robot pets that you don't need I think they think they did exist let's see a robot wrath my like actual size or make a robot fish and the thing instantly shorts out when you throw it in the tub I mean like the I bow is not a new product I first came out in 1999 so no really interested in having Brobot pets it would have already happened already mrs. that they're way too expensive so even for somebody like you that you would be like I'd love to get this for my kid there's no way in hell you're spending $3,000 on it so you know that's the that's the end of it I am NOT the AIBO whisperer all right we are moving on let's move on eww to exoskeletons APEC says that suit would be so handy for my dad who works at an airport that's a good point yeah heavy lifting they're all the luggage all the equipment reminds him of call of duty oh the the latest one or the last one not so first on the Call of Duty dance library yeah it says aw says that yeah yeah I mean this is this stuff right out of like sci-fi right I mean and we've seen some of this stuff before I'm most interested in this they only have sandal type shoes which like automatically adjust to the wear because my feet are fat and so I can't even I customized just hope they can do that with fabric Roger I'd like to do you know in your heart is for me to find a comfortable shoes it's I I'm skeptical about this product because I feel like it would be like really janky at first it needs to go through at least a couple generations to I would assume actually be able to like function properly somebody's working in an airport lugging stuff all day I don't know that this thing would actually work really well yeah wouldn't it I will try it I would make more sense if it's for people like carrying things to have the exoskeleton on their arms I guess you're supposed to lift with your legs back yeah but like I always have a hard time carrying stuff because it's like a strain on my arms mm-hmm weak dude yeah so if I had the exoskeleton for my arms that wouldn't be a problem it's coming that's next year's model that's true they only they start with like the bottom half yeah into the top half next year I want the exoskeleton just because it is essentially like wearable seat pants so you can just walk around and pop a squat wherever you tired so I'm like Lexie was demoing that in the video I was like I want that I just want to be able to sit wherever I want like this thing is a different I know irrelevant exoskeleton footage I have on file so they basically function the same way let's move on from Michael Brown again on the subject of the false alarm of the cyber attack on the NC why is that the US government so much weaker at combating this attack than the Silicon Valley juggernauts Alfred um well it's extremely different across the board for everybody so like the Silicon Valley juggernauts you know that's like Google and Facebook and Apple they control every element of you know their infrastructure like Google can tell all their employees we're using two-factor authentication now when you take a look at something like the DNC the RNC even like your local election county officials there's no set like standard for everybody like the federal government can't just like Trump can't sign an executive order that's basically like you have to have these security measures with in place so there's so much like you know fractured like stuff going on that it's hard for them to basically have one security standard among everybody and it's hard to like coordinate at all yeah and that way that makes it easier to find weaker links obviously all right we are just about out of time but I like all these suggestions coming in in the chat about where the exoskeleton exoskeleton could actually be useful someone who has a grandmother who's perhaps physically enable or those with general handicaps could really see a lot of fantastic usages keep sending them along we want to hear more where you think this could be a practical implementation in the meantime though coming back from APEC could the suit become weaponized at all and I want to propose this as a closing thought what's first to weaponize the exosuit or the I bow the suit wait I mean I bows basically okay but have you seen I bow like that thing is so tiny it like makes for the most it's unlikely assassin I'd like to see an eyebrow kill a man do you want to see a dead body so what are you saying that the eye boss just going to nurse ratchet somebody I don't know what that means you've not seen one foo of the Cuckoo's Nest it's been a while roben I go watch it this weekend I think the mango is better so either way yes the the exoskeleton will probably get weaponized first and I feel really surprised if the military wasn't all development sure there's already something yet in like Rd mm-hmm they're protesting yo knows well yeah we have that video if the third arm thing in the army right whoa there's like I know what you talk about times a day that's that stuff is uh yeah it's already in development yo social is listening tweet that video again today alright we are down to the wire and out of time so thanks everybody for joining us thanks to USB for sponsoring the show we are done for the week we'll see you guys on Monday who wants to take us on out of here I guess I'll I'll do it nine is available in iTunes tune in stitcher feedburner cool to play music google podcast Amazon echo of course sina.com we'll see you all next week and join me though every week everybody he's gonna be he's gonna be Berlin I mean looking for I Bose track been on Twitter while he's at the deadly fall on Twitter and hopefully he gets a chance to check out the suit but maybe I will make it my mission weaponize it bye bye bye you