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hello everyone welcome to a very special episode of ask the editors I'm your host Jeff Bakalar and today is iPhone overtime day last night the iPhone 6 and 6 plus reviews were posted and then we asked you the CNET audience to submit questions and requests so we could better address some of the personal needs of our readers and you did not disappoint we received hundreds of comments on cnet.com Facebook and Twitter using the hashtag ask CNET so thanks to each and every one of you for doing that joining me on this iPhone overtime show is senior editor Scott Stein and he's the lucky man well I guess I guess lucky is I guess lucky is relative but he's the lucky man who got to review the iPhone 6 for CNET he's been living with the iPhone 6 and 6-plus for a week now so he's one of the very few people on a very short list of iPhone experts let's get right to it are you man oh man it's been a long week yeah it's been a long week you're you're just you're just you know I I see you with your like your for casual time really nice coming off ladies and gentlemen take a look at this guy he's showing some skin we're gonna relax more TV just relaxing unbutton these shirt sleeves no just just get comfortable well I did like it's not gonna be a whole place taking everything okay let's just that's it we're done now it's been a chaotic couple of weeks for you yes yeah what so I said we've had a lot of things I mean I was at Motorola we also had Samsung Apple says a lot of products and all sudden have been hitting it at pretty much the same time right so you've been a madman for a month yeah you finally posted your your iPhone 6 review yet you birthed it to the world we put it out there and there's actually more to come yeah Tim Stevens and myself about the iPhone 6 and 6 plus reviews and we're gonna be updating these actually over the next you know 10 days great where things like for with the help of everyone had seen a detailed display tests camera testing it's a more network connectivity test so whatever you want to know we're hopefully gonna get to it but yeah we've already written I've written a lot in there already sure and hopefully not not exhausting people but there's a lot of things people want to know about these phones that's correct we got like I said hundreds of requests and questions we've got two of the we got the two phones here the six plus you're here the six this is the Roger base now these these are leather cases that Apple sells there'll be lots of others there these iPhones are thinner so actually in the case it doesn't feel you know that much different right in the iPhone which is kind of a nice element I just want to interject real quick I'm looking at this thing for the first time it's freaking massive it is big now I am this I like the size of the six more I will say but I hand this to people sometimes you'll hold it and go that's not as big as I thought it would be you get as someone usually they say that's pretty big yeah that's pretty big I don't have a bear claws all right so check this out real quick I have a g3 uh-huh let's put these next to each other just side by side like stand it up the g3 is the same same size screen as the as the 6 plus but this phone is significantly smaller well 6 plus is tall man it is now you know the meaning of a case on ID plus I have a case Apple always puts the premium on thinness but yes you know height you know width and height the g3 is is more compact that's something that happens on a lot of phones I was looking at the iPhone 6 it's the same thing right we have all these phones here we have a phone welcome to the phone table yeah the iPhone 6 which is here we have a pile of Android phones here we've got a Samsung Galaxy s5 and Nexus 5 the six kind of blends in better lens in it it's in that landscape but it's a 4.7 inch screen if you want to get phone nerdy the laughter funny phone now but you know that's a 4.7 okay again one's bigger than the other yeah so I like the form factors are interesting you'd get rid of some of that bezel we're being way too selfish now we have already people who question questions okay got game twelve twelve wants to know sure now that touch ID is open to developers and this is sort of broad what are some initial third-party apps that might begin to use touch ID we haven't seen any yet but now that iOS 8 has just hit we're gonna start seeing a lot of those you can expect that people will be able to tap into it I want to see what can be done Apple pay will also work with touch ID so I think you're ending up with a lot of ways to pay okay a world login using that now you'll also a lot of times you'll have an option to use a pin as well be sure with touch ID you do not you can't lock you out if you somehow your thumbprint doesn't work so there's always a way around it okay with touch ID if you've already been using it so just saying to be aware of it's not like it's not like you're your thumbprint is the only way to login for these fair enough good to know you don't need thumbs you don't need them you t mark d13 this is a great question why is it that the iPhone 6 has a better Geekbench score than the 6 plus that's a very good question now Apple does not talk about the speeds of these processes no they don't hey we use benchmark tests how fast is it it's a rights a a now with PCs it's easier what we saw was one of our benchmark tests showed that the speed and the speed of the smaller iPhone 6 was actually a tiny bit faster really yeah it's it was like a 1.3 9 versus 1.3 8 gigahertz I think now you know what we saw was that some of the benchmark speeds then and these tests were a little faster on the six but graphically the 6 plus seemed to do a little better on those tests okay when it evens out they're not like massive differences they're very similar but that would maybe answer why that's going on but what doesn't the plus perform better for games and stuff well no I mean the plus is running the same processor so you would think that it would run similarly but you're taking advantage of more pixels and all right for screen resolution what will be interesting to see we haven't seen any optimized games yet because those are all gonna be hitting but as we do an update to that we'll have to see whether that 1080p screen takes a hit on gaming performance or whether it's able to make up for it because it looks a the graphics performance might be a little better ok in some way so we'll keep an eye on that but it should be the same but bigger screen like the Vita size record yeah that's wacky the 6 plus has a bigger screen than the bigger screen than the Vita a bigger screen than the 3ds what's happening to the world I don't know big screen man yes man it's chaos that's pretty big I learned a lot through asking for questions from the C net audience most of the viewers most of you people are fine people most of you are some of you are just you know awful trolls that just be removed from the internet there's a wide spectrum yeah a lot of people in spectrum gonna it's insanity a lot of people had a lot to say about battery life sure okay so the Yaya reliving that's the handle wants to know a couple things and I know you covered a lot of this in your review which I highly recommend everyone go check out it's Unicom what about charging the phone from zero to a hundred can you give like a realistic sort of timeframe I know exactly minute and seconds is sort of impossible my g3 it's a large phone it has a huge resolution larger than the plus it takes about an hour and a half to go from like zero to a hundred yeah I would love the plus I would say on the plus I don't know because I you know I focused on the sixth review but I used the plus law but we'll get to that and we may have gone ten in the plus review the six I think was about two hours well that's not it's not bad it like a lot of these phones or I've noticed on lightning the first half of the charging happens pretty fast yeah so you can you can climb up to 60% I don't remember what amount it was but it was definitely under an hour and it was pretty rapid okay it's it's climbing up to that once you had 8090 percent you got to let it sort of sit a little bit longer but that's true with a lot of a lot of batteries now and the performance over a day is like the iPhone 5s maybe a tiny bit better depending on use case but on our test we saw it was about the same sure and that could be a letdown because the 5s I found you need to top it off throughout the day and the six plus you get anywhere from a couple hours more on video playback to a lot more on talktime okay app we didn't test talktime but apples claim is something like 10 hours more all right a big jump people curious about battery sort of stuff yeah and you still think it's it's going to serve everyone fine though at the end of the day it's not something you need to worry about well I think on the six I would have liked to have seen more battery life oh really I think you can't you know I don't think you can give too much battery life right at this point what we're using them for so I would like to see more I would have even gone a little thicker but you know a lot of people like the shape and sure design we'll get to that in a second that this diary life is good but not not a gigantic leap right it's a very nice step on the plus a lot of people are asking about the six people are scared that it's slippery wood is it slippery do things like a phone condom I feel instantly like I would want to put this in a condom yeah phone condom definitely all that quote yeah there you go the I was created on that that's gonna go that's gonna go viral so you put it you put a case on this yeah put a case on it put a case put a bird on it maybe put a bird on it you put a case on that it's still gonna be thinner than a lot of phones so at least you got some advantage there but yeah the shape it's very thin it feels even thinner with the size it's smooth now the last I'd be terrified to drop it because now you don't even have corner so if it hits here could hit glass yeah ah I don't maybe a great situation if you rubber that up yeah yeah get a case get a case get a case put a bird on it but what are you that's how I feel I don't know if it's slippery but every time someone picks these up and holds them yeah I'm terrified that when you're picking it up off the floor if I dropped it I'd want to check in make sure it was alive make sure it's okay it's very solid though really saw I mean Apple stuff is very well built feels very solid but then the six feels slippery yeah liberty little devil it's it's more slippery if you have it in some nice dress pants yes and those slacks if you're wearing a good pair of slice you can just pop right up you put in a slippery fair it's that's gonna shoot right out you would that's gonna go right across the room and at light speed that's gonna be in a cab if you were gonna be left in a cab definitely if you were to put in like a nice pair of like tuxedo pants forget it this is walking away you want a high friction case you want something that's gonna it's like a slippery fish rough yeah you want something a hole to slow it down slow down that momentum we are wacky I think we're all like I'm overtime hangover very loopy right now but that should be entertaining a lot of people asking this including MMJ one these are the first one yeah wants to know could my could a six plus realistically replace an paid mini or an iPad could it realistically happen thank you for asking that that's a very good question I have been wondering that I'm probably to write another piece on that I use the iPad all the time particularly the mini hey look what we have here we have an iPad air and a mini okay so let me see the plus let's make money let's look at the plus because everybody's talking at the plus being a mini replaced I don't even wanna know we're not going down that road the plus it's not the same size as the air let's just leave it at that but when you get to the mini yeah just just take a look and let's see what we're talking about here okay so here's the the six plus up against an iPad Mini okay look at that I mean that's a big difference to me you're looking at it looks like the plus is a third the size mass third the size of a via of the mini that's I mean I'm kind of thinking like dude just make this a freaking phone just make that a phone hello I mean what's the difference there's no look there's your hand I am wondering at some point we're gonna show you right now that is the next one I should take this out in public and tell them that this is the 6 plus but this I know it's bigger if you look you've Elte on this it's already practically a phone yeah plus actually iOS a and hand off and with with the 70 as well there's gonna capability to take calls from one device to another right that's four so it could be then a lot of ways this will act more like a phone I mean it's a thought there's not that much screen size space in between the two so maybe you make I don't know I don't know what's gonna happen and they look here's a thought big screen sizes were ridiculous I still do to some extent although a lot of people use them and now here you can buy it you compare these two and you know it's funny they're not a gigantic difference right but the difference is enough that this is this is bigger than most people think it's I don't know you that was when I first held it just now before we started I was shocked as it's actually way bigger than you think yeah it even surpasses the size of something like the note 3 by a little bit right a little bit so it's at the top end of the spectrum I think for there's a reason why this thing is shaped more like a piece of paper if you're using it for documents or typing can I go keyboard I don't think this replaces that because it's gonna be really hard to get work done like that sure but if you're browsing news and you're checking email I could see that you're holding in the car videos games right I could see this taking the place of the iPad for gaming look let's talk more about the plus and it's unique sort of size and you know we talked before how a lot of the Android phone makers they cater to that bigger goofier size yeah and it is goofy it's a little goofy the other thing it's like a return to the PDA super-aggressive PDAs but you're saying that live cell phone that's a plus doesn't necessarily cater to that bigger size in ways that you think Android phones did right because you're saying the keyboard if you want to pull up the keyboard on that thing well depending for legacy apps right for legacy apps Oh older apps will scale okay so it's a show us an example of of where that looks strange so that's Twitter okay well that's tweet bot doesn't we just have to show yeah they're really big I mean you could adjust the text size right well let's say you choose to write a message now look at the keyboard that's almost like those novelty remote controls you see that is a giant keyboard now the actual keyboard that pops up in an optimized app is smaller right this will get adjusted most every happen will be optimized for this but there is interesting question first of all Apple has the ability to have this work in landscape mode now and there are some split screen elements to certain apps okay that's cool I like that it does landscape in the home Scott school it's more like an iPad how many apps will take advantage of the 1080p screen over this the more like a 720p style display right on on the six that depends on app developers you're gonna have to wait and see and that's to me how useful this is going to be now you also think is like Samsung the note 3 obviously they're taking advantage of not just the stylus but certain multitasking tools very attentive to things that are more like a PC user experience this is very much like the eye phone sex and peck the iPad is like the iPhone so apples tried to not give it ever really push that much and how nice to see that be a little different I find that interesting I find it interesting that there are other phones that have similar sized screens that get this special sort of oversized treatment with the styli whatever it is and you know what with the six bus it's sort of just like alright this is a massive iPhone there's if there's no real sort of eat uh luxuries with it even the number of apps on screen is identical yeah why not think like oh I could put more apps on that page no you're not right now you can't it's more stretched out here like the iPad that's really just the brightness through some apps on the on the plus I've read what Tim Stevens review said some apps look a little blurry yes well because they're expanded up and so you end up with some apps but you know I launched the Kindle app which is not optimized yet okay and it looks great on both because you can adjust the screen size and Apple actually has some pretty good upscaling technology and all these apps that handles things like text okay so if you bring the text down it won't look blurry in most it'll look crisp unless someone created some some specialized art and things like Netflix actually look good even an optimised form interesting but games sometimes the the interfaces and buttons could look big and blurry some keyboards pop up weirdly icons get odd so yeah there's a lot of stuff that you you would not want in that mode but at least it's not like if you had an iPhone 5 way back and you upgrade it from the for if you remember those apps used to be black barred at the top and Bob right yeah at least that doesn't have like a letter boxing thing it's the same it's the same aspect ratio but you end up with weirdly magnified the functional apps some are crashing so see this is good later we get into like the details that you know people don't sort of see on a surface level yes Kate thorne wants to know and this is something that was echoed by dozens of people they want advice on on on capacity which one is right for them this time around it's there's no 32 gigabyte anomaly 16 64 or 128 gigs my knee-jerk reaction is sort of like 16s maybe enough for someone who just wants a phone and that's just a fun but I feel like and correct me if I'm wrong 64 gigs is that sweet spot I think 64 is a sweet spot if you're doing any photography I think it's all about photographs and videos so if you're doing it you're using it as your camera there's no way that's 16 unless you're just really casual about it it's gonna cut it for you I think if you're doing things like I mean look we're streaming music we're streaming videos you're doing a lot of stuff off your device right well then 16 will be just fine and a lot of people say it's fine I think 32 is kind of a nice spot it's a little shame to lose that where's 32 32 is a pretty good one I don't like for me 64 is what I like right because I'm hard court now one two I will be tempted I'm crazy I would be tempted to go on an iPhone 6 in a 128 just because I use up my storage and there's no way to expand it sure and for videos shoot videos of kids or shoot videos and events here we do I use these things as an event camera times so I would I would be tempted but it's a lot of storage speaking of a lot of storage we got a lot of questions about the 240 frames per second recording that takes up a lot more space those videos it does I didn't actually record what size they take of but if you're going up from 120 to 240 frames per second you can just do the math and imagine that it's going to get pretty sizable I know if it doubles up but it you know the size of 120 frames per second violation jam-packed into the same amount record a 15-second video and you'd be surprised how much space it takes so if you're if you're a stunt skateboarder yeah you want to shoot some slow-mo you're gonna need that yeah all right that's fairly interesting and we don't and the the resolution of 240 frames per second do we know that for sure is that I believe it's 1080p yeah I think it is - yeah that we had that question from us it looks good Jay mez so actually let me well we'll get back to the review I should know that at this point but um it looks good it looks just like the slow-mo from before but slower bits I mean it's so slow that you could like spin a coin on a table and see the coin spinning no yeah it's all you could I mean 240 is pretty slow so it's four times 60 frames per second yeah so I mean it looks great and it's nice to have you can also shoot at 60 frames per second or 30 frames per second for regular video okay that's a change which actually could matter just as much for people who are shooting like high-speed sports photography just like that look that's buried in the settings I really like so we're shooting this this is like an emulator like 30 frames per second so it would be eight times the amount of frames in the same amount of period a lot my math good on that it's a lot well that's why you end up shooting a ten-second clip of like my son jumping off something yeah do a tremendously long it's crazy it's bizarre okay a lot of questions about the camera yeah does the optical image stabilization which is only available in the Plus make much of a difference in picture quality compared to the six standard so that's from Joey a nine five one there are a lot of little tweaks to these cameras I still feel the average person if you're trimming from the 5s camera to the six it's it's not as dramatic so far to me as the five was to the 5s or that the five was from the 4s yeah it's still eight megapixels but the big focus was on focus there was sort of ruin the punch line but it's auto focus they called focus pixels but it's like a basically a smarter focus system I found that that mattered for capturing details and avoiding some blur in close-up shots so it knows where to focus better but the optical image stabilization and low-light should also help for that it should it should adjust and avoid blurry shots that that seemed that seemed like it made a big impact it was not something that unless you're really into photography sure I don't think the average person is going to necessarily miss it but I'd want it and I'm a little a lot of people saying that that's their main you know deciding factor I think it's a big thing it's a big thing in cameras if you're treating this is a serious camera and so it's something to consider with this but then if you're using this is your regular camera this is big and why does a regular camera or sure I don't think it fits as well in one hand when you're taking you a quick photo so for me the one-handed ease of use with that if I'm you know I'm running around and I want to capture a quick snap saying that's that's something that I like in this alright I want to and this wall lead into the way we push here with your fall so say the FaceTime thing I mean apples talked about this before yeah they changed the aperture but here should be a little better in low light and it takes multi burst the sort of selfie stuff that they attended to it looks good it's still 1.2 megapixel so it's not like it's not gonna rock your world with with image quality on the front yeah but it's a better FaceTime calls tend to look better for the person on the other end sure a little better let's move to this is a one really unique question that I was curious about myself at D fish design asks can Siri on the iPhone 6 with iOS 8 which is what's running on on the planet can Siri turn on the flashlight and just want to let us know that's an important question that's an important question I don't know you didn't using belong king mounted flash like what situation are you in where I don't know who cares let's can we go - I want a special video just on that I didn't even think about that so strike let's try it out let's hear please turn on the flashlight okay so I mean did I say you're right looks like can you turn on the light oh look at that it's ready it's ready to do a home kit right but no just want to put my OS 8 they tries to knit together smart home right Siri was like I could turn on actual light in your home can do a lot of things Scott but not this yeah that's not the one that's on that is interesting why not just have like Siri can do all this complicated stuff I see why that I could see why it would be a big deal if you somehow wanted to mount this as a light you'd have to have a Bluetooth thing and trigger it on your ear or whatever and go Siri turn on the light yeah and then you could turn on the corner oh yeah beautiful Scott did an in-depth review of this freaking phone you you are sorely mistaken yeah it's got an iPhone crazy losing my mind that is maybe one of the last important things I've thought about importance it might be at the bomb but we tried it here's a great question from a Talon Steve 6:19 wants to know about that protruding camera lens that is on both iPhone 6s do you think that's gonna leave itself vulnerable do you think it's gonna affect the phone maybe getting a scratched or broken lens what do you think about that can you see any scratches so let me tell you yeah Apple makes a big deal there's from the sapphire lens secondary are hard I mean so hard it is it is hard but you know things can obviously still can still scratch this is the here's the thing this is actually the same protruding lens design that was on the fifth gen iPod touch okay which we shockingly don't shock is a one thing I failed you I had it sticks out a few millimeter it sticks out people have fifth gen iPod Touches and I've not heard any problems I will take your word for it you put a case put a case on it yeah I don't want to be like that but if you put a case on this it instantly obviously becomes recessed and right not a problem and they clearly thought that too this is not I think this is a phone designed for cases right that's probably why they focused on being thing is they said just put this in a case and you'll be fine using it naked like this I would worry sure oh if I put it on a grainy surface or something but on a regular table no I wouldn't particularly fire you know how hard sapphire is your I mean I put my phone facedown all the time with no case well not on the front oh the cuz the clicky like leaves it I put it on the table sometimes I flirt with faith but I don't think it's weird that's a little raised but I don't think it's particularly not a deal breaker deal no way okay well there you have it there's your answer yeah very specific about the screen and we've only got time for maybe one or two more can you feel where the iPhone plusses screen meets the aluminum body or is it perfectly smooth hold on could we see how tightly Scott's hide now I feel uncomfortable as I caressed my finger over the smooth edge of the curved polished glass yes you can feel an area but it's very it's nearly seamless it's a one curved continuum but if you look close with this there is a seam there's a little line oh and even on one of my phones I got a little bit of schmutz in one of the muscle or mutts I got a little bit of lint or something that kind of hot and one of the edges schmutzie gunk the point being that there's a little bit of a seam right it's not you know nothing is seamless but as opposed to the edge now we're used to have that hard edge than the glass yeah now the glass is curved around so the metal does not begin until after that glass is cleared a little bit of the edge interesting on all on all sides okay all right so it gives a nice feel the glass feels more the screen feels like it pops off more it feels a little more immediate okay I don't know if that's just the effect of the design on it but it doesn't feel it has a nice nice handhold but slippery little bit slippery very good and then finally let's talk real quick about like one-handed use yes with the iPhone 6 and 6 plus how's that experience been for you that comes from Matt Allen the 6 is pretty good I would stop short of saying miraculous just because my favorite one hand feel on a 4.7 inch is that Moto X sure last year yeah Moto X was the one that showed hey this is totally easy to hold right no problem this is just a little bigger and rests a little flatter so you feel the edges push into your hand a bit great you can press the home button because you notice then you have serve stretch to the top apple thought of this they have this reach ability so you double tap can reach reach around and everything just plop down to the bottom did you see that no let me see that do this oh that's neat she does whole thing and now you can reach at the top for people with small hands small Han so you double tap and now you can reach the top that's cool and just like says like hey you know the tops not important anymore it's it's interesting it's weird I'm sure people are going to use that accidentally Mart yeah but it's smart if you're and reaching that the home button the touch ID is easy it's a tiny bit of adjustment but it's fine they also move the power button here off to the side okay on the top anymore you're okay with that yeah absolutely because it's actually annoying to reach up and press that yeah so now you have to remember that you're doing that because if you do but volume and home I mean the power button you might actually press power instead of volume okay that's not a big deal but I like it now if you're talk about the plus it's a little hard in one hand you can do it I think because it's so tall I need to support it with my pinky here I'm doing this strange like strut support I don't know what I'm doing but I yeah I feel here and this is a little hard I would immediately want to reach and do that it's more of a hold and then use another finger we've shown you you know um people probably okay with that I know we said this at the top of the show we've shown the plus to people for the first time today and everyone does it pass this the pump is the shirt pocket test look at that sort of that sort of does doesn't look awkward at all no not at all just take that out people when they first hold it I think it's worth noting that people are kind of shocked they're kind of shocked now you have people who are big phone users right who may have seen these but we've got an iPhone your whole life you will be shocked if you've had one of them this is the iPhone 5s now you you look at those and that's AB it's a big leap yeah it's a big gigantic that's a big leap and you may be used to your pockets and what they can hold and you say I wanted a bigger phone and you go oh my god right that's what's going on oh and there's an iPhone 4s you know that's even have a 4s you are in for a rude awakening so I think I think that's that's uh me and even like you said use an LG g3 right that this still feels a little big for people who use that yeah definitely so even though the same screen pushing the varied 5.5 is pushing the very top end of the normal phone spectrum would you agree you think it's gonna be maybe a shorter design next time around same screen size I'd love to see that or I can see Apple just sticking to its guns but maybe in a year's time we'll see the plus maybe be a little more distinctive gosh you come up with more features than not just not just you know a hardware feature that's been left out well you say what does this mean for multitasking sure multitasking you know we haven't really seen a lot of that in iOS 8 that some of them made a difference but really taking the next right with that bigger size you have to almost include that yeah ok before we say goodbye real quick your quick takeaway your quick final say for the average but what do you think is right for for people deciding between the 6 and 6-plus I know it's not an easy question for me personally seeing you know what we know now and and having to play with them for a little bit I kind of think the 6 is like the more practical way to go yeah I think the 6 overall is a great package optical image stabilization is a really is a minor element right the battery life is the one thing for me that I would wish it had more of yeah and if it had great battery life like beyond what we were expecting I would be through the roof on how much I like that phone but I quit battery like at the top of my list this year stuff I was looking for right so I personally you know sure I've got my own opinions but that's the point I'm a little let down that it didn't take a leap but bigger screen size and and what it has in both of these we haven't even talked about but obviously apples time at Apple play yeah Apple pay is that you know NFC technology mobile wallet we've seen this on Android phones but Apple is gonna try to make it work better with more banks these are both the first devices to use it so you can do with either one of them if that in October if that becomes really awesome and you say hey I can really use this to pay for stuff anywhere easily then that would make these even better and then you even say hey the 6 has another advantage that I may not worry about this but yeah I would say go with this right the plus is a specialty phone it is definitely special you did a specialty phone some people will absolutely love it but it's kind of like you have the Retina Display MacBook Pro most people pick the MacBook Air so I kind of think that's the a little bit of the analogy here all right well very good thank you for being here yeah I want to thank Scott Stein on Twitter at jet Scott I'm at Jeff Bakalar please follow me too if you like this little show maybe you want to let your friends know about it and we'll try and make it happen again next time for a product that's maybe not an Apple product I mean that would be maybe we can do this for like the next Samsung phone or whatever it is to do it which how does that work I like it I love it all right thanks so much for tuning in and we'll see you guys very soon