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Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple sorry about that I'm not okay alright surprise surprise we've been talking about Apple again and the iPhone the reviews are out there I know it that I know we're talking about Apple a lot I'm sorry if you're sick of Apple but we got to keep doing man or just it they complain that where I seen it anyway just lean into it try to get away from the Apple you not this week not this week we're Apple to go no I'm sorry Brian I'm so sorry don't be alright just let me have my fun I don't so we'll be talking about the iPhone reviews which are I phone eight and A+ review obviously the iPhone 10 is still a ways off so we can only talk about the the current flagships for elias inflections for the next two months yeah which we did get our hands on so yes I haven't had the extensive time that Scott has but he's got his full review also our photographer James Martin got to spend 72 hours using the iPhone 8 plus camera so we'll do a run-through of how well the camera has improved over the 7 plus a good luck prying that phone from Scott's cold dead fingers by the way whatever I used it extensively anyway so as always if you have any questions live in the comment section Brian will pick out the best and we will try to answer them in 3 minutes and 59 seconds from Apple Apple welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Ben Fox ribbon the reviews are out and the iPhone 8 is nice CNET calls the iPhone 8 plus the best iPhone goodbye for now so that is a big question right like are you gonna be waiting to buy iPhone 10 later or do you want the but iPhone 8 and 8 plus now which are cheaper which have extensive essentially allow the same components really the same cameras you know it doesn't have the big design it got wireless charging it's got the water resistant body it's got and it's got a whole bunch and touch ID why didn't they call it the iPhone 7s I feel like the name the naming doesn't really like fit exactly they didn't really change it all that much no there's a lot of internal components that you just mentioned and also the wireless charging that does actually justify a newer phone but at the same time this is more the 7s and Scott Stein in his review said as much right look it's I think Apple is definitely changing the rules every time they renamed one of these filler but every time they name a new iPhone model right with the iPhone 7 last year technically should have been the big redesign there wasn't redesign but it still called 2 7 so they figured they got away with it last year why not just skip the whole s thing and at least subtly suggest at the consumer that this is a big change and that's thus warrants a full number changes as opposed to adding an S to the phone and going back to what you asked about originally at the very least Apple is trying to get as many people as possible to go over to the 8 and the 8 plus there really isn't enough supply but there is a lot of demand for the iPhone 10 but I don't think everybody I the the Big Apple fans are gonna get this yes the hardcore Apple fans look at the iPhone 10 so that folks who are really into tech good to the latest of grace will get the iPhone 10 I think there are a lot of people who have upgrades and are just looking for a new iPhone this might actually be a better move for them because it's got the familiar home button it's got touch ID people are very used to that that all gone like facial recognition is a whole new thing which is gonna be on the time right and that's it's a little bit untested you don't have you know your muscle memory all set with touch ID like or like you have a touch ID so you know for a lot of people plus the price difference is pretty significant so I think for a lot of people this might be the phone I mean the big question I really curious to see what happens on Friday during the launch at those flagship Apple stores if it's gonna be just this big well they're a sea lion my guess is no and I don't think they're gonna be that big minds I think it's fairly easy to get an iPhone 8 you can pre-order online mm-hmm I mean there's some slight delay but I want I really wonder how many people gonna show up to an Apple store they might just the the employees may still go through the motions because this is a new I like the one guy just buy all the show for those lines of those events and buy all the iPhone so I'm sure there'll be people there I just I don't think it'll be the lines like there used to be so one of the other aspects of these phones that I thought was interesting especially with the plus was the the cameras yes James Martin our senior photographer out in San Francisco talked about he spent 72 hours with this camera I reading over the story I was actually quite impressed and it looked as if they really significantly pushed forward the software yeah made the most out of that horse it's the same hardware 12 megapixel camera but it seemed like there's a lot of computational power went into making these pictures you know pop a little bit more you see better textures the colors a lot more vibrant exactly the low-light photos which you know everyone always makes claims about it seems like they were pretty legit they looked better I think they were still kind of gimmicky and green screen II but at the same time if you are gonna get excited about the new phone I think that is an area that people could brand the iPhone 10 the only difference is optical image stabilization on both lenses the dual lens I thought any plus has essentially the same phone the same camera with optical image stabilization on just the one main lens right so alright that's all the time we have for more on these stories check us out at seen it I'm Roger Chang I'm Ben Fox Ruben thanks for the singing so before we jump back into the chat and take our current questions I wanted to revisit our topic from yesterday okay we farmed out the question what would you sacrifice for the iPhone 10 so I got I got a list of some of my favorites here yeah from our comments I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put names to these but College make sense yeah crunchyroll wait is that a sushi you bet to the video streaming service oh okay so right on I was with Netflix but a little more niche and I would not give that up kidneys oh okay you said two kidneys kidneys yeah you could live with them hot but give it away to have time to upgrade continuing on firstborn I would have expected that yeah my ex well that's not really a big sacrifice right my Tesla but Wow you know a few phones you could buy with a Tesla less now and finally your souls yeah yeah yeah would you agree to a signed contract to give away your soul for an iPhone 10 give me that soul to let's say like like a friend of yours not Apple it was Apple that would that would mess with your objectivity buddy yeah but he would own your soul contractually speaking oh I'm not really religious or into like the afterlife but still kinda gives me the heebie-jeebies I know I know I would not think I could do it I wouldn't do it it's just that's just me alright let's start taking some questions from today Jesse gateman our buddy yeah hey Jesse what what time can we expect iOS 11 update today for those of us who can't afford a new iphone right now the free software is all we can look forward to we don't know for sure it's a couple hours but it will be sometime soon see never give a concrete answer right it just kind of happens I would think traditionally it's happening around our time yeah yeah yeah noon eastern yeah right I wonder how many people are going to actually jump the ship and get both phones if there is there anybody out there who would get an some version of the eight and turn around and get a 10 very doubtful is it like after they get the 10 they flip the iPhone 8 both somebody that obsessed I'm looking for that sure there are obsessed people who buy everything but yeah you would keep the iPhone aid back home to keep your home by the way I know I know i OS love it's coming out I would strongly advise unless you've got like a spare phone as Brian was saying but strongly advise against downloading iOS 11 quickly it's a little few bugs that pop up at least the first two hours first day I never ever get it I'd wait for it to clear up a little bit yeah I think was two or three years ago when one of the iOS updates basically bricked your phone yep let the diehards fall on their sword you know yeah always trust them common asks when will the iPhone 10 be available for pre-order we've got to pull up our story good question we just didn't have that information fourth is the actual release date I'm gonna find it just will get get to the next question and I'll answer it before then Elite Brian gaming says why does the iPhone 8 exist that's a great question I would say I thought it exists because there needs to be a lower end option or a mass-market option for a lot of people I thought 8 is the affordable option I would argue iPhone 8 plus may have less room because it's really kind of in the middle there and it's sort of in my mind I feel like Apple probably wants the iPhone tend to be the iPhone the iPhone E Plus but it's just which might be the case in future you know that's a good one gets the pull when they get in a supply of certain components but I've been a plus because they needed a bigger phone and they needed a bigger phone that could sell lots of that's the eighth plus the iPhone 10 is gonna be supply constraint for a while so yeah largely because of the OLED screen from from what I we've read from the roads yeah from from the rumors the Samsung is going to be supplying most of the OLED screens which is a big problem because they're also apples tree chief rival in smartphones and also it's just a matter of production I think they just can't make enough right and if your Samsung you're gonna give Apple your your the other OLED screens you're always gonna supply your etic your own smart they always say that though they they try to treat both customers the same but you know you're your own customers right like Samsung is treating its own so going back to the previous question this is my story from like the actual launch the iPhone 10 starts at $9.99 don't forget that for the sixth gig version 64 gig 64 gig thank you very much pre-orders start October 27th and the phone ships or is at least scheduled to ship November 3rd I know I might be completely wrong but early November at the very least hope you're not wrong is ringing it off story [Laughter] all right back into the question lashes Jarrett topping asks how did the new speakers on the iPhone 8 an A+ sound we don't have a great answer for that right now let's suggest you come back tomorrow when we get Scott Stein in there anyway let's not promise it that's true hoping he gets he's the guy who's really spent the most time and Scott should be able to bring the phone if he comes he'll have the phone with them Ricky Dicky Show like the 359 it's fairly low yeah well we'll try to get him over here will will entice him with cheese doodles or Doritos or sure here we go we got a question from Carlos he says I am blind and I can't since I can't see it I was wondering how do you lock or power off the phone the iPhone 8 or the iPhone 10 I'm assuming all of the above sense there still side button that you can lock the phone with correct relating to the iPhone 10 well both yeah yeah yeah there's a side button for both that you can lock for folks with disabilities are probably not going to notice a significant difference between the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 8 because they're physically largely the same phone and locking and unlocking it are going to be the same with the iPhone 10 especially with the face ID yeah I don't know like that that might create some additional complication normal yeah I guess I don't know I know like apples really done a lot of work to make like voice commands yeah accessible for the accessibility how I guess accessibility friendly it is I imagine it is because they've made a big deal of it in the past but we don't know yet because we just haven't had enough time what the thought yeah thanks for the question by the way fantastic question it's Apple didn't really give much information on further tech enable type now probably and they have talked about it on stage not this year not with this phone they had a lot to talk about with that phone so I mean I could see why they didn't go into all the gritty details of the iPhone 10 will get more once we get time with the phone which we don't have I think we'll be able to better answer your question but right now it's just we just sort of had the bare minimum yeah G - asks will the wireless charger come with the iPhone 10 nope why would why would Apple pass up on the opportunity to sell you another accessory right right yeah look it does still have the Lightning port and a lightning cable has that so you still have your regular chart but you do it to buy a wireless charging pack but then they become normal see though as they profess away from wired charging do you think somewhere down the line that'll be part of the buy only do it if they ever started invading headphones if they remove the Lightning port I think they'd have to obviously include a while that's years from now yeah if they ever do it you know but it's important to like the other boot makers don't include wireless chargers either and no much expensive than just a cord that's that's because it's a core pad and it's a newer technology so I'm sure it's a Matthew - your point sizes up the 359 is rinky-dink not to your fans a I pimp what differences is there a name a 11 Bionic chip set for the example Samsung's newer phones chipset well the a lovin Bionic is custom made by Apple so I think it's a 10 nanometer along with the snapdragon 35 basically it's custom it's a custom tuned engine to run your iPhone as it goes to Samsung which uses a stock engine which admittedly is a very powerful strong engine yeah but like it runs other phones so it's it's may not be as fully suited to Samsung as say the a 11 Bionic is to the iPhone for regular users regularly I would say you're not going to notice the difference like Qualcomm does know how to make chips oh yeah totally and the thing the thing with the and this is another thing that regular users aren't going to notice but Apple has like a separate processor and broadband chip whereas if you're gonna have the 835 from Qualcomm it's a system it's it's it's a system on a chip so you have them both together which could potentially create improved computational power right and theoretically more power efficient see more power efficiency yeah because because theoretically Qualcomm has physically made like the broadband chip and the processor work in sync together right maybe better than you know Apple having two separate chips true yeah I mean that's why the Galaxy Note 8 uses a smaller battery than the earlier model but still has the same punch same battery life lifespan yeah yeah we've got a ton of great questions coming and we're trying to get to as many as we possibly can we do have a limited time James favor has got a quick and easy one does the iPhone 8 have Bluetooth 5.0 that's you we know that it's in the spec page I don't believe so I don't know if I can find while while we're looking that up James favor asks do you think Apple will do what Samsung did at the moment and create types of flagships like an S eight versus no eight now that we've seen an eight and a ten ie X you think they're gonna like kind of subdivide that out mmm question I think because they tend to launch all their phones at one go where is Samsung has a kind of predictable strategy or it's like first half of the year it's the the GS line second half it's a note line and so Apple I think unveils all this phone so you kind of know right off the bat like that's the flagship of the ten is the flagship phone and then everything else is kind of the the bargain or the mid tier phone but the labs are very similar now right you've got the GS 8 and the GS a plus which are akin to the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 plus and then you've got the note 8 which is akin to the iPhone 10 so similar lineup but this Apple kind of unloads them all once you kind of know what the flagship phone is whereas Samsung is like this GS a plus is the flagship phone for the next four or five months it comes out with the delayed launch for the iPhone 10 I do see at least the potential for maybe them to change it up in future years but I totally hear what you're saying as far as them at least announcing all the phones at the same time Najeeb in the chair asks what will Apple do next year just release iPhone x2 and lower the price so the eight I'm really curious if iPhone 10 sticks around if they go back to a normal naming scheme like iPhone I think they disagree I don't know every an iPhone 9 somewhere why would they why would they sell an iPhone 9 I think they break down the clay churn I think they break down McLeish's is it the new iPhone is it jumped iPhone 13 or something just go to 15 by the way anniversary this is the reboot I think it does look like there's Bluetooth 5.0 and and he did I pronounce that correctly Wireless G yeah G thank you I knew I got that wrong I get it wrong - I still correct myself and I have to correct I grew up on uncomfy movies Jarett topping why do you think the iPhone X did not come with a higher resolution screen I Fontana I keep doing it I read it literally I'm sorry I'm here it sounds cooler it does have a higher resolution screen though it does have a higher resolution screen Scott mentions why not still higher oh well also a brighter and knit screen oh I don't I can't answer as a why Apple decided not to make a brighter screen I'm gonna get somebody in here and Scobie you can mess with the brightness of it but I mean like if you were bidden buying Samsung and I think by LG phones you've been getting OLED screens for years now yeah you have to spend a thousand dollars for the iPhone tend to get it but they did improve the screen to a certain extent the iPhone has an improved iPads file true tone screen so there you're probably gonna get some level of improvement there wait for the 8 for the 8 yeah but it's not high resolution no and it's not it's basically more accurate colors mm-hmm alright let's fire through a few quick rapid-fire joints as iOS 11 rolls out today do we have any concerns over older models specifically in the chat the 6 is a slicks 6 going experience and you slow down with the OS update gonna get sick they've done a good job recently with their updates to kind of make things a little bit better than than historical yeah he's my personal experience I'd be a little wary if I've got one of the older phones I would probably wait it out just see what the review six is two years old I know right six three years old oh you're right you're right you're yeah still three year old phone like it should be able to run the latest version of iOS you look one might argue that Apple is doing that kind of thing on purpose to slow down because older phones by who would ever think such a thing horrendous it's unseemly another great question from Jesse Gabe Minh do you think Apple will drop another color iPhone 10 next year like they did with the red iPhone 7 earlier this year yeah I think charity band black yeah or silver black great great over I got all the completely wrong okay face cream which i think is black and then silver which I thought was white so I mean you were kind of right I hope they add another color like magenta and like very light blue I'm going back to the what is it the 5c colors because that was a plastic bag oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that was wearable yeah there was actually a question that surfaced up on our on our review video that I thought was kind of interesting and I want to bring it back up for Scott tomorrow but somebody asked why none of the review units are in fact like the Space Gray or anything besides the standard black or white colors that are floating out there well the reviews we go we're like the gold one yeah or the blush whatever it is yeah I mean usually they like the Apple likes to hand out the latest colors that's why they don't I think there's also a sometimes ask I don't even know how it really works but I think for photography just to distinguish that this is a new phone the preference is always they use a new color right that makes a lot of sense yeah okay a couple more Ryan Linder asked do you think if they figure out the fingerprint ID under the screen they would ditch face ID on the next iPhone who's a why push face ID is it because they just had to put out a new phone oh you know there's a lot of conspiracy theories about that I say side it'd be easier technically than touch ID I like touch ID I definitely like that idea I like his point why why push out this radically different thing if they're just gonna backpedal to it later so I don't and again that's just the it's a little limiting to think that this camera that they put into their phone is just her face ID as Scots bring up brought this point I tend to agree that the camera is sophisticated enough to read depth and I think next year they may double down and we may see something like that in the rear camera because that stuff is really good for augmented reality with technology they really want to push I don't think they probably were able to kind of fit it all in the one phone this time around but I have to imagine that it's not just face ID it's for augmented reality it's for all kinds of uses that we haven't figured out yet so I think that's gonna stick around I really do hope that they figure out touch ID underneath the screen I don't know if they're gonna do it I think a lot of it's gonna depend on the consumer reaction of the face idea people I really hate it there seems to be some skepticism already the thing is is that the way that this is being targeted as more of an even more premium to your model yeah the people that are buying it are already very loyal to Apple so they're not that concerned I would think or they're not as concerned about these privacy issues because otherwise they wouldn't be buying that phone in the first place Adam Adam says they aren't going to get rid of face ID they need your face a feature in a file for when big brother needs you yeah no I mean like really good at like fighting the government in terms of like divulging your identity in your information what is true FBI I the fingerprints that doesn't mean they're not going to clone you I just think we can't clone you and remember that iTunes thing you've been ignoring for 10 things I just think like the facial recognition stuff has been floating in sci-fi for so long that's a lot of why people are being so hesitant about it whereas fingerprints are used for a lot of things and they've been used for a lot think it was when they would touch ID was first introduced there was a lot of skepticism and there was a lot of concerns about whether or not that was gonna be secure now it's sort of commonplace let me just like online shopping right there's there's always an initial period of trepidation I'm just for me maybe it just gets smoother over time as touch ID did but like the way I used it it seemed clunkier than just pulling out of my pocket with my thing all the touch ID sensor already and then having it ready to go like lace I haven't shared my phone watching the thing go unlock and then wiping on it that's expired that maybe if they if they remove that extra swipe move then would be fine like it basically it would be less secure that's the problem yes you've unlocked the phone already if you accidentally look at it if you accidentally look at it look at it it's unlocked someone else would just swipe it you get there's there's a I think that there's a very intentional reason why they included the swipe because you've already unlocked it with your face why include the swipe then right that's so I think that their social I have I think they're still trying to play with disables yeah and if they put touch ID in the screen then you could disable it and it wouldn't you wouldn't be losing much right I mean the iPhone the touch ID if you remember like the the setting that most people disabled was like you had to not only push your finger that we had hit the home button wants to actually get into the home screen and most people disable that right away because that was an extra step and so maybe this maybe it's just a tweak in the settings menu breaking news Apple just announced next year coming thought ID think about your phone and it's going to open up I like mr. Hills comment says will Apple also be releasing tinfoil hats for those people still afraid of face ID we're almost out of time here really do you think the next iPhone will have a screen like the iPhone 10 I think they've kind of set precedent in that yeah I think so and then lastly synergy media what do you think will be the pre-order availability for the iPhone 10 compared to the eight and eight plus due to the price discrepancy very limited you know it's gonna be really hard to get yeah Karlis of the price supply is not out there so the eight plus has got a B+ have gone really smoothly I mean I think there's some minor delays but I think the 10 is gonna be horrendous most likely yeah yeah alright if you're like dying to buy the ten you may have to get it on a secondary market ooh a lot less money for a lot more money Apple black market yep no don't try and Link you up with that if we can anyway I mean Oh Rogers got the hook up let's let's wrap things up do I think that you saw our heard here took us on SEANET our podcast is also available on TuneIn stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner and Google Play Music see you all tomorrow back to y'all see look at late oh yeah tomorrow we are going to be later than usual find maybe what's got closer to three o'clock Eastern Standard we leave alright see them you