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you it's Wednesday January 11 2012 I am Brian Tom and I am hollywood welcome to buzz out loud scene that's podcasting a determinate like live from CES we are on day two of initially thought it was day three last night it's like more for us I think the week continues to get harder but still just as fun still a lot of great stuff that we can see on the show floor and everything yeah yesterday was the first official day of the show the first day of the show floor was open to attendees and so everybody started to get a look all the duct tape time came off the vacuuming got finished already got a look at what's actually on the floor and then of course a little bit more news that will talk about and we had our awesome cnet party last night so we're so covering from that we're still recovering from that we had a really we had a fun time the parties have started the gadgets are coming out the TVs are bigger and actually our colleagues at newscom did Jennifer gave in at newscom did a pretty awesome roundup what mattered on day one at CES and we've seen you know we we maybe not have expected to be this larger trend but it's even becoming bigger the way that I from kind of what I've seen in feel ultrabooks Ultimates have been huge you know we've already seen companies enter into the Ultrabook market but specifically here at CES we've we've seen ton of entries del with their XPS 13 we've seen a HP with their Specter which is like a corning gorilla glass covered laptop on three sides yeah but they're the definition of an ultrabook has also kind of changed here at CES because what we used to think of as let's say macbook air type clones we're now starting to see companies call ultrabooks 14-inch laptop 15 inch laptops so you know it's it's a laptop but they're kind of changing the definition here at CES of what an ultrabook used to be yeah in fact I had a conversation yesterday in fact if you're here live after this we're going to have a laptop discussion with our laptop editors on this stage me and dan ackerman and I had a conversation with Scott Stein yesterday he was saying he's kind of getting skeptical of the ultra thing because there's already mission creep two things first there's already mission creep Samsung is calling the new series 9 which is a 15 inch laptop an ultrabook I mean it weighs three and a half pounds which doesn't sound like a lot but it feels like a brick compared to something like this 11-inch macbook or something that you started to expect out of that ultrabook word so they're definitely having that mission creep problem and then on top of that Intel gave a press conference on day one that essentially said don't buy anything that's announced here at the show because all the good stuff in ultrabooks is going to happen toward the end of the year they said that's when you're going to get voice recognition and windows 8 and Ivy Bridge everybody's being all sneaky about whether they're prototypes are even running the ivy bridge architecture it's I feel like the Ultrabook thing is much more up in the air than I thought it would be considering how many are littered throughout the floor yeah I mean it's one of the big themes that we've definitely seen her the show but like you said it's another way and see kind of like how mobile phones have taken off where they're they're going to be released throughout the year rapidly and constantly we're probably gonna see the similar trend with ultrabooks take that take you know follow that lead so yeah definitely so don't be in a rush to buy a new ultrabook because clearly they're just going to get better with time yeah uh we got a look at first like yesterday at every year there's like a promising concept that comes out this one is the project Fiona tablet an actual full-fledged gaming tablet they hope and they showed it running some pretty impressive first person shooter stuff yeah this is from the company razor who does a lot of great gaming stuff in there they're implementing pretty much controllers on the side of a tablet so everyone's complain that you can't really do any hardcore gaming on a tablet where razors trying to say like no no you actually can we're gonna give you the tools to do that right it'll be interesting to see him how people here and how you know it's one of our nominees it wasn't actually razor that same company got the people's voice award last year for the Switchblade which was the mobile pc gaming a mafia the gaming laptops all the hot buttons I don't think that ever came out I'm just gonna put that out there I don't I don't remember if it did or not I my google this while we discuss it ah but that but it does it looks like another kind of potential oh yeah I did it happened it exists it's amazing how something like that will get so much presence e yes and that it comes eight months later and were like who we've talked about a lot just here at CES were a lot of things do get lost in the shuffle once that once the year actually goes by yeah but all eyes are on everything here another another thing that we still does seem to be any way okay it's up in it came out but it was they weren't able to manufacture enough units it's been like a lukewarm reception but yet again a cool concept from them yeah also on some of the things that we've seen here at CES with Intel finally showcasing their first mobile phone this is from Lenovo this the k800 this will be the first mobile phone that comes to market it will only come out to China they have not said if they'll bring it to the US yet but it'll come with our medfield processor the k800 will have a 4.5 inch screen it runs gingerbread but this is one of the now since we're Intel really trying to step up their game in the mobile platform with where they've really fallen behind with armed ships and processors you know Qualcomm with their Snapdragon they've been behind the race as everything is transition to mobile they're really trying to make the argument that we can produce chips that are just as efficient if not more efficient than what's out there and you'll have to wait and see what we come out with to it later in 2012 and I was happy to see Paul Otellini focus so much on that during their keynote yesterday because that is you know they gave that big press conference and talked all about ultrabooks and people were saying look it feels like the real thing that Intel needs to be talking about is this war with arm why aren't they mobile wire and why have they not done a better job so they they kind of pauline ii started their keynote by sort of saying oh no we've been in the game the whole time we're doing a great job we're fine we're good but we are super gonna focus on this this year like we're all over this this year not that we haven't been before but this year we are all about it so you got your hands on that phone last night yeah i mean the phone it's a little blocky right it's i'm still I'm still not a fan of the like four and a half five inch form factor yet right I still have it's not because i have very tablet I don't want I don't miss out on my pocket I mean I think I think the four incher is four and a half and five kind of get kind of gets a little you know uncomfortable hold for my hands but the phone itself it was sleek I didn't really feel like there were any advantages of its speed and snappiness compared to what we've seen on the market right now even the operating system although was a little different it wasn't anything that is everyone's gonna flock to an Intel processor but what Intel's challenge here is getting their process or getting their platform with vendors everywhere like if this is really the only phone it's going to take some time before we see their their processors across the board by other manufacturers other manufacturers already have these relationships with other processors like we talked about you know ARM processors Snapdragon hung hummingbird from Samsung yeah so that how much entry in the market will they really get is dell going to be there buddy in this venture who else can they really get on board to push their mobile platform forward I know well they did have motorola motoroi sorry no motorola joined lenovo but announced that they would do intel-powered motorola devices later this year so there is you're exactly right there may be a little traction they may have been able to trot out one partner but the fact is a lot of these manufacturers especially if they have long lead times for these phones some of the stuff is already sewn up no it's it there's no question that despite what they say they're really late to this game and actually watching how this evolves over the year i think is going to be one of the more interesting sort of company like industry stories that we get to follow lenovo like we said unveiled their first smartphone also and we have a cool poll because i have to say looking around the show floor I actually did think there would be a lot more smartphone announcements by now I mean there have been some but it didn't feel like the flood from last year the droid bionic and the Atrix 4G yeah it was it was like it just felt like phones were coming out this guy there have been a few phone announcements here but not so many so we put up a pole at newscom asking our readers what's grab their attention so far at CES yeah so we have an audience here really quickly if someone could shadows what is really what is really grabbed we're gonna just read down the 55 options that we had and just we'll have you guys raise your hand from what you've read and seen what has grabbed your attention so far here at CES first of all a bigger thinner smarter fancier TVs than ever is that been the number one thing that's caught your attention crazy okay yes no hands for books ultrabooks kind of the new mobile laptop super slim appears not even playing i can tell that i think they're waiting damn have people's uniquely designed here like laptops that turn into tablets has that been tickling your fancy no no no nobody's having the dynamic video on smartphones you guys okay i love we got a little bit we got a little bit 3d printers all right all right look I'm with you on that one I voted for that according to our survey right now we are close around it it just came out somewhere in about a thousand votes the number one thing that is grabbing people's attention this year right now at least at home at least at home thirty-eight percent responded with the bigger thinner and fancier TVs it's working now what now with that list after you heard that entire list maybe some people are all yeah actually it is the bigger fancier TV we talked about how it's going to be really they're pushing this is the center of the ecosystem but have you seen the OLED displays yeah I thought that it was I really truly thought that I was over being wowed by TVs se es I thought okay give me a break I've seen the TV the size of like a house wall and they're this and that and then I stood in front of the oled TV and I just I was flabbergasted it is beautiful it is actually that much of an increasing quality am I going to drop a grand on it anytime in the year too probably not right but it was it was enough of an increase that it was really it's it is standing out and I think people are actually seeing the value proposition even if they're not necessarily ready to buy it still it shows that TVs have that lasting sort of sex factor and that the focus on 3d hasn't diminished people's interest in just having TVs with a better picture yeah Jimmy's a great lesson right stick with a better picture thing yeah so you guys can you if you have a chance to check it out you can go over to LG's booth and Samsung they're both displaying their own leads and some of these TVs are literally four millimeters thin they're ridiculous enter than some of the phones that you guys have in your pocket sharp i think is showing off an 8k TV which i am dying to get my eyeballs on i heard it i mean it sounds like circling ridiculous point right but i encourage you to go look at that and the LG the 84 inch 3d for K monster monster TV really great TVs on the floor right now we're gonna take a quick break when we come back we'll recap some of the cool things that we got to do yesterday namely Brian Todd oh come on duetto with LL Cool J welcome back to buzz out loud live at CES we have a studio audience today we're excited coming out everybody coming out there's going to be a lot more amazing programming on our stage we probably just want to sit right here we're gonna have an epic look at laptops in a minute or two 50 cent fitty cent will be on our stage at 2pm talking to brian Tong so we're pretty excited about that we you know this is the place to be look at the company seats feel free to come on in sit down there's room alright so yesterday we had CNET's kind of this is like our premier panel event the next big thing super session where we talk about what we think is going to be the next big thing the next big tech trend for 2012 this year we focused on the ecosystem which I felt good about because the word ecosystem was bandied around roughly nine million times on press day and beyond it's this you know this really this idea of all of your devices working together in concert either from one manufacturer or all powered by something like Android so I sat down with we had a great panel actually i sat down with eric schmidt from google for 20 minutes we talked to tim baxter who's the president of Samsung America's consumer and enterprise divisions and then we talked to sit like a great VC guy and an entrepreneur who sits on the Amazon board and we really just got an overview of the whole thing but we're only going to talk about Eric Schmidt right now yeah I was going to say like that that was kind of where all the news bits and tickets came from you had a chance that you were the one interviewing him it's true if he seemed to be a little dodgy with some of your questions and not answer them directly is that an accurate statement glass is what he does he mark my words he would go into politics he is so good but they have the whole panel is available online or the whole session but one the main thing that I took away from it and the thing that I really want to try to get a question on was whether they feel that Android is too fragmented because I feel that way and when I asked my google+ followers and my Twitter followers what they wanted to hear what their number one question was it was some version of when will the fragmentation end will you offer a stock of a net one of the most clever suggestions actually was could Google start offering a stock vanilla android installation like a secondary rom or something so that you could just install stock vanilla Android if you had to know how anything I like it on it'll be nice I know I was like I should totally do that he was not having it in fact he said he doesn't think that Android is fragmented he think he thinks its differentiation between devices that continues to offer greater freedom so differentiation for better or for worse for better or for worse yeah and that they feel but but our panelists really especially Blake girly who's a venture capitalist and Blake kerkorian who founded sling and is on the Amazon board they both seem to feel that Android at this point is pretty much unstoppable in terms of that platform that is going to drive multiple devices in fact we even saw we've seen now too I think one from Lenovo and China one from a TV manufacturer that I'm not familiar with two android-powered televisions and Eric Schmidt told me that Android is even operating in at least one refrigerator that he knows up so that was one of their goals about a year ago when they announced that kind of initiative to push Android into other platforms right like they wanted it home appliances yep and we're starting to see that creep out there so because of its flexibility at least to be able to do what these manufacturers want to do with it it is going to live a lot longer life just beyond the mobile devices that we're seeing so yeah and it seems like if anybody's in a peson you know I Samsung has a great vision of the ecosystem but involves all Samsung devices Android has a vision of an ecosystem that is their platform powering anything it was a really it was a very interesting conversation I thought although i would say that dodgy is the word actually at the end i asked him one question and he it was you know my last question he goes I'm not going to answer that question I can answer a different question it's this and I was like how did the crowd responded we always right when you asked him what was more important to the ecosystem hardware or software and services exactly what do you think and he goes I'm not gonna answer that I'm an ass I'm gonna tell you what most surprised me in 2011 yeah it was like he said instead I'm gonna tell you where baby giraffes come from hahaha all right he said he you know it ventually answer eventually did answer the question but I'll tell you politics for that guy but another thing that you guys can look forward to is Omar women in tech panel right our women in tech panel yes that'll be happening at is that today is today at five o'clock back at the stage of women in tech we'll be talking with men or welcome obviously it's a it's a conversation about the industry and I hope you guys will all join us it's going to be fascinating where Marissa Meyer from google Padma warrior the CTO of cisco and Caterina fake who founded co-founded flicker and founded hunch which ebay just bought for 80 million dollars so it's going to be a fascinating collection of women I think just talking about why there's never any line in the girls room here it's a yes now also CES you guys know there's a lot of celebrities that come out here to partner with companies to throw new products but we had a really awesome opportunity LL Cool J came to our stage yesterday but he wasn't here to pimp a product he knew nothing about it he came to showcase his product it's called boom dizzle and it really is a game-changer for audio music production where you can real-time create music with someone in a completely different location let's say someone on the east coast summer on the west coast someone in a completely other another country and be able to make music and we got to test it out we got to play with it okay I'm right as being so modest right now because he ll cool j are soul mates they had the most fun time of here can we play a little bit of the when brian Tong sings no did why today's have a come on no that's embarrassing anyway it's actually fascinating software i love that i mean watching that video the idea of collaborative music making yeah very cool one thing about l2 he's I mean he's a really smart guy but when we walked on the show floor a lot of times sometimes when we do these tours people just want to walk through them they don't really care yeah about that technology oh it's I would ask him do you want to stop use like yeah let's go check out and he would soak in you know some of the new demos that Sony had with their you know crystal LED technology he would walk up to the LG wall and we know we were just standing there for five minutes and he was just like this is crazy and he would just love you in every moment of it so him and his buddies they were just like freaking out when they saw the OLED TVs you know and so tech is he loves me he loves his tech and he you know he's all about it so yep I think everybody really is all right back to CES news real quick and then we'll wrap up with a little bit of non SI es news a kind of a cool story we all know that Microsoft is pulling out of CES what you may not have read or I hope you did read on news com is that Microsoft's CES floor space you know they have that huge corner there in the central hall that's what they have dominated all this time that space sold in 45 minutes 45 minutes obviously was scooped up pretty quickly a dish and Chinese electronics maker hisense they pretty much are splitting that space for the same price that Microsoft would have paid yeah it wasn't like oh so by the way what that price was yeah they won't tell us half a million a million dollars what do you guys think we have any sense of how much that boots baby when your booth organization any insiders no I guess we could ask our market it I'm sure it's a lot of it is extremely prime real estate and it's it's gonna be really interesting next year to walk into the central hall which for years years and years nears has been Intel Microsoft and see it be all different anyway i love that it was just like in case you were worrying that people weren't as interested in having big flashy booth space on the CES show floor apparently they are you know apparently that's still working for them all right so we have this little gadget have you have you had a chance to play with this little thing no but i want to think i don't know if it's still in our back in our CBS area but you know we had there's always kind of like fun silly little toys that are playable here at CES um how about an inflatable cube an inflatable bouncy cube for your ipad just not for you maybe for your kids or maybe for you it's adorable but it it's you so you can sort of embed your ipad in what is basically a giant bouncy beach ball thingy so then i'll toss it all around it's like your Betsy house for ipad okay ipads gonna have a lot of fun but i don't know i know you guys are like know anyone bind up for the kids know anyone nope on the toy stuff i saw one hand go up back there that's right you know what I know exactly my five-year-old is gonna see this and be like it that's on my list random tangent you know how we talk about CS catering to the kids who oh man I can't remember the company off the top my head I should but at a digital experience they're showing off literally a DVR for children so you put it in between your cable box in their TV it's this handheld device and it allows you to record scheduled programs and then the that your child can disconnect it and take it with them wherever they want to go and watch TV shows that have been recorded like a DVR it's one of those durable you know fisher-price looking type toys little screen but I mean it's it's scary because we see how advanced kids are getting with all this technology the touch technology yeah boys a touchscreen but this is a DVR for your kids and it when I saw them like my niece's would totally use that not that I'm gonna buy it for them because that's danger he's going I want to be I don't want my you know my sister to say you're bad uncle but kids and the stuff that CS comes out for them you sometimes see some of those crazy things but it's there I do I like to see the toys that come out I am also skeptical about the beach ball thing but that kind of DVR p.m. we prob looking thing all right so real quickly not at CES an interesting update on SOPA which we have not forgotten the Stop Online Piracy Act which is everybody on the internet wants to go away I had an interesting conversation actually with a guy from CEA yesterday about this and he said it you know Congress people are reporting that they're getting hundreds even thousands of phone calls about sopa anti SOPA calls because partly it's such an easy sell right everyone's really mad at Congress every loves the internet and they want to protect it and nobody wants to hear about people with a lot of money getting benefits right so you so you come along and you say like hey these people with a lot of money who who exert undue influence on Congress want Congress to break the Internet and the crowd goes wild so opposition continues to grow to sopa reddit which is a pretty geeky online forum is actually they're going way farther than the you know change an avatar picture they have announced an entire blackout day on January 18th the entire site will go dark yeah for 12 hours to protest sopa so this is an if you're not familiar with them this is a news aggregator right yeah this is great this is a news aggregator site and they're their messages look if you if you let SOPA pass through stories or sites like us could be completely removed from the internet from existence without any due process right they would have no control over their psycho in a way so they're putting a big message that says stop sofa and you know it it's it's some people say oh they might be trying to drive attention but really for those of us that love and care about the internet and use it every day everyone in this room yeah it's an important message to sell any website that allows commenting that is a forum that has sort of discussion going on is at risk for how you know having someone accidentally or on purpose post a site to infringing content under this law the domain could be blocked the domain could be removed and you'd never be able to get to read it because someone posted a site to what was said by someone out by a private party to be infringing content but there's yeah and for those of you that are here III mwah its far-reaching it could take down sites literally like you know break a Google searches ebay transact if they could say look there's there's a legal content on eBay we want you to take that down not take down the auction take down the site yeah I'm it's that far reaching it's really bad we have all written a lot about it so if you don't know we're talking about come and ask us later or read up on it because it's it's terrible we're not going to mince any words on that and then speaking of google searches twitter and google in a big huge fight right now google this week rolled out some personalized search results where they are changing their algorithm instead of just simply giving you the sort of most relevant results when you're signed in you'll get results that are a little more personalized to you and as twitter puts it a little more heavy on the google plus and so google so twitter fired back they very clearly said we're concerned that as a result of google's changes people will not find twitter results they'll find google+ results instead google's changes in that that google is breaking the way that search works so this is probably going to be one to follow its heating up pretty dust no i don't know if it'll find twitter information harder to find but it does feel a little bit like google prioritizing some of their own results which we see that that's the thing that makes everybody nervous about google and big machine yeah so all right we weren't look we're getting this thing so we got to go we have more stuff coming up on the stage that is up a bar buzz out loud show for today we will be back on Friday there's no show tomorrow because the best of CES awards presentation is happening right here at the same you guys can't miss that the 17 winners of the best stuff that we've seen here on the show floor yeah and hopefully awesome products that will continue to be the best throughout the year but again this this is the flagship awards ceremony here at CES yeah I'm sure to come and check that out and like I said right after this we'll be looking at a bunch of new laptops dan ackerman usually shows up with an armload of them and we just we look them all over so there's a little gadget porn happening in about 15 minutes here right on the stage fitty said like i said we'll be back at two o'clock and five o'clock as our women in tech that's just today hugs we are not running around with the scene that stage will see you just stay there alright see you guys bye guys good stage direction you guys