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Buzz Out Loud Ep. 1576: CES 2012 Wrap Up

2012-01-17
welcome to the cnet stage here at CES 2012 is January 13 2012 I'm Brian song and I'm Molly would welcome love it's like the holster you like you a little ear wave and you hear that oh that's it is it's our last show from CES and we were sitting up your life and then all of a sudden the music and the clapping and I just we're back we're back babies yeah yeah we're we're alive the show also we promised all of them for those of you watching on the live stream we promised everybody a sticker if they clapped really loud for us I think that's a fairly common superior backstage and see if we had any leftover shrine to give our sorrow without a doubt male something yeah are you guys having a good show so far look at that nice I'm so amazed to see so many people still here on the last day this was awesome absolutely got some of our regulars in the chat room yes Derek Andrew back over there we appreciate you guys coming out here so shall we just talk about what's happening over the past four days totally it's obviously gonna be another CES heavy show yesterday was kind of our big showcase day because we gave out the best of CES Awards we are the official awards program for the consumer electronics usual and the best of CES words I gotta say people were so excited yesterday that I felt like Santa Claus that if you were here in the booth you saw it was like it was packed yeah there were tons and tons of people and it was like giving out the Oscars it is it is you know it's bigger than the officers here at CES I mean these are all these are the awards the official words all these vendors and people that are coming out here to showcase the product something like over 3,000 individual companies came out to CES this year to showcase their goods and from that list how many categories do we have total have 11 11 categories those are the final winners of CES and now we talk about who is the best of show will kind of get to that LG's 55-inch oled display TVs were a huge theme here and a lot of people you know my friends at home they're like really at TV but I think all of you that are here in this room that have had a chance to see these OLED TVs are all going to agree that was the best of show and the thing that it's really interesting because you know that Samsung it will just give you like a peek behind the curtain into our editors thinking because obviously samsung also has a stunning 55-inch oled TV on display they were having the Battle of the world's biggest oled tvs i think what put what pushed LG over the edge is the fact that this is a big thing for editors the fact that LG plans to ship that TV this year that's almost always if it comes down to a razor thin margin like that that's almost always the thing that's going to make the difference because we are you know we come here to revel in the amazing new technology but at the end of the day we are trying to help you make the right purchasing decision we're a very practical site you know we don't want to sit here and talk about TVs that are going to mean we're a practical site even though we awarded what will probably be an eight to ten thousand dollar TV well but a little bit come out right at least you have that eight to ten grand you can totally buy that sucker yeah and a lot of times for you for those of you that are here or haven't been here we see so many products and sometimes we see some amazing things that never come out and that's always the biggest disappointment when you give a product in a word that you just never end up seeing that year or maybe it takes a year plus for it to finally hit market so that's one of the criteria that we have to use to you know consider the best TV best of show but by far yeah less than four millimeters orgasmic it's just stunning it's absolutely stunning I hope that everybody gets a chance to at least he went in the store if you weren't here at CES to look at it I hear that the voting that there was a there was kind of a little upswell of the other kind of possibility for best of show was simple TV which was the the device that one in our home theater category I don't even know if they know that but but there was a push for them because it is potentially like the next thing the the little appliance that makes it easy for you to cut the cord it's sort of a DVR without a built-in hard driver video output it lets you supply your own hard drive and then you can stream either recorded or live TV the live TV streaming involves I think like a five dollar a month subscription but it pulls locally broadcast over the air stuff and it's it's outside you can stream your live and recorded over-the-air TV outside your home network sort slingbox style it's like your personal cloud for over-the-air TV also the word that really maybe some people say matters the most was the People's Choice Award this time we had a returning winner from razor last year they had their gaming laptop this year they brought their project Fiona now we don't know when it's going to come to market yet but this was a tablet that integrated to kind of controller handles on it and would allow you to play PC style games directly on a tablet device this was what all of our viewers here at cnet and all the readers and Watchers chose as the best people's choice award because they don't really have the same sort of senses we're all about like a product that's going to come out there just like this looks awesome oh really love yeah exactly the razor one for the Switchblade last year and i don't i do not want to dump on these guys they're making incredible concepts so far we haven't seen any products even the Switchblade has not come out it's still in the concept stage hopefully one of these going to hit the market soon because the Fiona tablet does look like a lot of fun yeah definitely so we also want to kind of just briefly go over some of the other winners for those you that weren't here in car tech qnx car to mobile apps platform amazing self with dashboard technologies NFC ability to sync some of your Bluetooth devices really easily also full quality high definition audio integrated into the system as well for voice calls we all know like we all want to use our phones and our cars even with you know Bluetooth headsets but the audio quality nine times out of ten depending on the headset use pretty crappy not great so this is one of those solutions that hopes to push that forward well it's an in-car app platform too so it allowed developers to write html5 apps for in-car use which i think is to know because I think html5 will save us all and it will make I to me the biggest problem that automakers have is that it takes a really they're working off old technology in a lot of cases it takes a long time for them to update their in-car systems because some of because their their production cycles are so long if this is a kind of like a platform that can be in carts almost like an operating system for cars like you don't need Microsoft anymore and if you are thinking to yourself I've heard that cue next thing before that's research in motion that's the blackberry guys so they're doing any cars and they got to do it somewhere which is a good thing though you know so our smartphone category kind of no surprise here actually the coolest phone here even though it felt like it wasn't announced here because there were so many rumors ahead of time but it was announced here the Lumia 900 the Windows Phone to beat is what we're calling it that was the best best of CES and self smartphones also cameras we have the fujifilm x-pro 1 in emerging tech a huge theme here the 3d printers MakerBot and a cute qubit home cube the 3d cube system they were going neck-and-neck but MakerBot replicator came on top for the 3d printing kind of phenomena that we started to really emerge here at CES and we'll kind of track that and see how that translates over to the actual home consumer but a lot of people here if you have a chance in the central hall there's a 3d at home kind of area and you can check out what they're doing out just some awesome stuff that was our emerging tech category again that one's gonna ship shipping in six weeks two thousand dollars you could totally have one in your garage and print your own iphone cases cups and stuff I love it simple TV like I mentioned in the home theater department in pcs the HP envy 14 Spector was the best of Joe yeah the visuals itself just made this a hot device it's a little worrisome if you drop it because it's covered in a gorilla glass Gorilla Glass 2 really well that this this one is actually covered in the still the original Gorilla Glass because yeah oh no glass 2 is on its win they've showed a demo that but um it looks amazing probably scratch resistant but drop resistant probably not as much yeah well you know but no laptop is actually yeah but if you don't watch shatter your laptop terrifying shatter the lot you know dent laptop it still hurts daddy I stop shatter oh look man I'm so beautiful in software and apps with BlueStacks for windows 8 which lets you run android apps on windows 8 which is just cool right I don't know we liked it in tablets the asuste memo 370 T which you haven't heard of but it costs 250 bucks which is totally why at one right I mean we're still seeing Android tablets come out like the toshiba excite 10.1 was a strong contender in that category because it's the thinnest one it's beautiful it has good connectivity and storage but it's over five hundred dollars 534 16 gigs 599 for 32 gigs and if you're there with two hundred fifty dollars and pretty similar specs it's going to put you over the edge and then networking just around things up we have the d-link amplify HD media router supporting USB 3.0 450 bit megabits per second of data as well as the ability to do like cloud-based streaming as well so those are the roundup of all of our best of CES award winners one thing that though we kind of want to talk about is things that here at CES we were disappointed in you know things that we were hoping assembly I may be out that that didn't maybe take off and I guess I'll kick things off we always everyone knows you know the e-reader category with e ink is really popular we've always been talking about what's when will we see color ink and I was actually really bummed because Qualcomm they are in that booth right over there but they showed off last year color ink where we were hoping hey let's maybe we can see magazines I'm not a fan of reading for a long time with looking directly at an LED screen so or LCD screen and so what Qualcomm has this mirasol their color ink they showed the next generation of it but it has a not a backlight but a front light but either way it is a lighted glowing surface it's not true coloring they were really the one hope to champion this technology and oh there's no there's nothing else they're out there so I i don't know i don't want to say it's dead but it looks like the idea of color ink is dead that was kind of disappointing yeah i mean i hope it's not because i do think that that would be that would you know to be able to do magazine subscriptions that are inked but have color pictures i'll be able to do children's books on something like a kindle I think that's huge because the LCD thing really is it seems like that's going to become the future but a lot of people do have problems reading those I don't like it and so I'm with you I show that's what I hope it's not I hope they I hope so or someone else does that because last year their demo looked like real Ian color but then I talked to the rep there he said well that was a cached demo and so we should try to get them on the show when we get back nice that was really no I never do that we should try to have them on the show when we get back the San Francisco to talk about because maybe this is just an unbelievably difficult than being challenged and we don't realize quite how hard it is I from my perspective I gotta say I was a little bit disappointed in the ultrabooks showing not they all look beautiful we had you know if you saw our laptop talk show with dan ackerman and Scott Stein you saw like these tops are gorgeous right the Ultrabook the form factor all of that is really beautiful but I was very surprised that they're not as baked as I thought they would be at this show and that so many of the features that Intel wants to happen even that Microsoft wants to happen are coming way later and that ultrabooks really seem to be suffering from mission creep right there not talking about 11 and 13 inch laptops like the macbook air now it's sort of like well the 15 inch samsung series 9 is also an ultrabook but i don't i thought it was little and it's sort of the definition is starting to wander I mean that can happen when it's a definition that was solely invented out of the brains of Intel but it's that whole category feels very messy to me and then meanwhile there are MacBook Airs it's kind of like that they I think they have a little more catching up to do than I would have expected I think even more just not disappointing but when you saw some of these ultrabooks there was no shame in like copying the apple macbook air and it's like can you at least throw maybe a little few different design elements in there you know I like mental yeah there it was they look exactly alike I you know you lied about it is it is pretty but you know this must be a little different yeah I mean I they're definitely worth some you know I think like a sous going with the rose gold was beautiful the spectre is really interesting the ideapad yoga nah that one's fun an interesting sort of a convertible tablet style laptop thing that I've seen that is just it looks totally usable it stands up in a bunch of different configurations it's very it's very cool I think though that ultra Brooks do have a lot of catching up to do i'm also watching to see though if those really thin and light and cool laptops with windows 8 start coming out with touch screens before Apple does touch screens laptops I think that's going to be a big surprise the interesting we were surprised i don't know if i'm disappointed necessarily but i was surprised that there wasn't more phone news yeah you know we've been littered with phones and past CES is I think maybe part of that I was kind of thinking it out is the fact that now we get up we get almost wet two phones every month now during the course of the year display there are only six ruling phones here it's really changed how CES has delivered phones and how companies are doing it where it was a swarm you were just hammered with like 20 phones they're like any of these could be pretty legit decent phones they should have felt maybe like three or four yeah so although I am there's one trend I am pretty excited about we saw the motorola droid maxx yeah and sams which is a totally all about long battery life and then Samsung is promising all-day battery life on all of their phones it's because that is just a huge that's like oh why haven't you fixed this thing right battery life in general that's a big selling point for ultrabooks yeah and for smaller lighter laptops and so it's great to hear mobile phone manufacturers directly talking about battery life and even then introducing phones that are like yes this I don't know what else it does but it's gonna last all day yeah so that's a promising trend all right you want to take a little breather and then we'll just kind of wrap a few stories do it yeah actually one little news point before we go on phones the Lumia 800 may already have a shipping date it's a rumored to be coming out on March 18th so we'll film after wallets ready and with that we'll take a little break when we come back we're going to talk about some guidelines for ice cream sandwich out the therapy because there's not that's totally not and a CES breakup see you in a minute welcome back to buzz out loud live at CES everybody it is our last day it's the last day of the show it's our last day everybody's exhausted way vicki we have a really big turnout though I'm so excited to tell them here there are still people wandering for I actually I took this opportunity to add speed over to the north hall this morning which is which is why i was giving everyone a heart attack likely regret but i had not gotten over there cuz i'm so curious to see what they sort of connected car cuz for a long time North Hall it would be like all stereo makers mention cars yeah it's really it's looking filled out and Audi Howdy's booth is beautiful there it looks like an apple store in there it's gorgeous and there it's like a car show yeah but I this is just the thing that I discovered this morning they have the coolest heads-up display there that I feel like we totally missed I want to get a camera crew over there right now I'm sure they'll be excited to do that are you doing it here they're not showing this off at Detroit because the Detroit Auto Show is happening right now but so they're showing off in their booth we get a chance this their new heads up display system so they have its heads up display obviously for the driver right a lot of people Mercedes is doing the heads up display for the driver so that you can see navigation you can see information come on screen without having to look away from the road then they also have a middle screen that both the passenger and the driver can see not that this is all not new it was it that was in Frankfurt but now they have a passenger only heads-up display so that if you're bringing because you can bring a lot of media content into your audi via your you know bluetooth connection or USB or SD card your passenger could potentially be sitting there watching a movie on a heads-up display while the driver is you know just navigating safely I mean it's kind of but the cool part is that they have this minority report gesture-based heads-up display thing going on if I did not know this so you can yeah so you can kind of like sit on that middle screen right let's say you have some point of interest data that comes up right we're passing by the Bellagio right now they're here are some restaurant information the driver can kind of like flip your hand up like this then the point of major stuff comes up in the middle screen and then you go like this and they shoot it over to the passenger so the passenger could read a couple restaurant reviews may watch a little video the food coming I see I'm gonna be like yeah let's totally go there and kick it back to the middle screen so that will navigate for the driver I was dying that's like the coolest thing I'm like when is this gonna come out there like oh we have no future it's the future but it is super cool and they talked about how you could do video conferencing like you can imagine right traveling sales people or people who are in the car a lot working you could fully be having a video conference from the passenger side on the driver side you might just see a little still image of who you're talking to or something like that it was really it was very cool I mean you need your car to be self-driving really to get the most out of this that's my big thing Google's helping us out there right hopefully and they have google maps integrated into the Audi vehicles and I think that is huge because car navigation is not kept up with just you know as easy at it as it is to use an android phone it's so go check it out if you get a chance because it is really just like wave your hand something and nobody realized it right like the Audi guys start showing us this and all the people standard how can you tell us this I'm like that's cuz I'm rolling with brian cooley they tell him everything yeah all right here are some other things that happen at the show a couple last wrap up things Google this is kind of interesting after Eric Schmidt insisted to me personally that differentiation is a feature not a bug and that it's not fragmentation in Android Google quietly released a new Ice Cream Sandwich style guide for device manufacturers and developers yeah according to Android's developer blog this is a place where developers can learn about the principles the building blocks and the patterns for creating world-class Android user interfaces to follow you know we've I'm it's interesting you know they I think they they can throw this out there and we'll see how consumers respond but man we know what companies have done with Android whether there's style guidelines or not we know the fun stuff verizon likes to put on their phones I can't wait we love that yeah that so the guidelines are completely optional google is making it clear there the recommendations are optional but they say that any apps that are built outside the guidelines will see so it is they have definitely they've already said that they want ice cream sandwich to be a little more standardized don't try to take some steps in that direction and you know I mean Eric Schmidt said look if it was up to me I would love it if I would love if every manufacturer just put stock Android on their phone but we want to give them the option but I like that they're saying okay you have the option but here's what we suggest for the optimal experience and then hopefully consumers can help drive with our dollars you know the choice by saying like you know what I don't want this welcome to samsung galaxy s ruined by Verizon experience that I had a couple years ago yeah well with irate with the response of the Samsung you know with the Galaxy Nexus and we've seen how that's going to be a pure Android experience that's going to help give cues based on how it does overall as a phone to other companies of maybe we should they're going to decide from seeing how that how people react that maybe we should kind of all these guidelines a little more because that's what we want right and so hopefully that works out because I I mean I like HTC Sense UI I've actually always liked a lot personally but then there's other companies that just butcher butcher it so and I think you'll always find I mean one of the things that was interesting that he said was sometimes he finds out that Android is running on a device when it comes out you know that's sorta it's just out there and there will always be manufacturers to do whatever they want they'll modify it in some way to make it run on a refrigerator or you know whatever and that's fine but I think when you're talking about major manufacturers selling with major carriers it's a benefit to everyone it's getting you know especially as Windows Phone I think is going to start to make a strong presence in even in those retail stores it's a lot easier if all those android phones look and feel the same so people so that the buyer is not standing there being like you know this one does this now but they say they're all Android i'm confused and you know don't make it confusing you know then you'll sell more stuff now we also talked about breakups here at CES and if you guys had been have been watching or listening or paying attention two monsters keynote there was no mention of the of the beats franchise and this is because monster and the beats headphones that have taken over a fifty percent market share of the entire phone headphone market there's they're breaking up because according to report they had they had trouble they had a problem with figuring out really who was deserving of more credit for the success of both companies to again two companies that form together and and decided to take over fifty three percent of the market they couldn't figure that out and now they're breaking up and going their separate ways they have an irreconcilable dispute over who is moreover those Yahoo's more awesome you can't you really you guys you can't just sit there and rake in the money you get you gotta just be like think this is what happens when you have that many egos involved I like no Lee from monster Timmy I vine these guys are it's their their gigantic ego enemy bit but that said each of them already has a new flame they've already moved on we know that HP and beats have been kind of hooking up on the side for quite a while now they say they're going to be very happy together Beats Audio is on that on the envy spectre and no Lee is talking about how they're cooking up with who Oh jy Park yeah designer diesel and radio shack so there you also comment I think also he feels like it's moved on to the hot girl yeah also also ACC owns a majority stake in the in beat they've invested in them so we'll see the beats name at least live on in other electronic devices it's not like it's just dre and jimmy iovine you know i mean just they have support from the technology market so beats isn't going to go away it's just that we're not gonna see monsters and beats together but it's just they should that's good so really it's so weird the holidays i'm gonna get weird at the same time those headphones look hot but they sound horrible they do well the base is oversaturated and muddy I mean I'm the first one to love hip-hop but it for me it's just too too heavy on the base if any of you have heard them and match them up with other headphones they all end the slogan that they've always been pitching is the best highest quality pure sounding headphone that you can have and it's just anything further from the truth so wow those are bald work i'm up but i think what yeah i'm not in i'm not in an audio file by any means but anyone who's been able to match them up well you can to the balances its I have you know and I had an HP Envy with Beats Audio built-in and I definitely think I mean base is where they put all the emphasis for sure and that's like you know that's fine but your taste it should taste absolutely alright that's all the CES news that we have for you guys I hope that you've all enjoyed the show I'm so happy that you came by live audience stick around we have stickers got stickers if you guys clapping in the show we're gonna give you more stickers I know headed back to San Francisco we will have our regular buzz out loud episode coming to you on Thursday back in the studio with some other who knows what you're saying back to reality bacteria longer staying up til 3am back-to-back nights I guess not all right I get that back to San Francisco there's a full slate of programming coming up on the show on the stage today we've got rumor has it coming up eric franklin and Sharon Vaknin are going to do sort of a like best and worst I think of the show it should be really interesting to watch them do that so we'll be here we'll be here often sit tight alright guys thanks for coming out there you have it you
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