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hello gang had seen that live we're live at the scene that stage at CES this is the best of CES 2018 day tune you could say we are smack in the middle of this show at this point here we are at the end of the full day that we've had and press conferences are behind us which Scott and I brought you as things kicked off on Monday I'm here with Scott Stein my personal physician thank you for being here as usual we're doing well we're hanging in there all right thank you keep an eye on me I need you here we're here for the next 20 minutes or so we're gonna boil down for you the best products that CNET editors and there's 90 of us here by the way have seen here at this the largest Consumer Electronics Show on earth kicking it off I nominate the power outage so for crime over there was a power outage it was rain yep there was darkness yes CES yes and the rain led to the darkness that was that was looking at everyone's out there walking around slack-jawed never seen power out before it is actually a cruel irony you come to a show here that showcases the future of a world that can't exist without power and you yanked that cord it is a deep inner meta discussion of what we're gonna do yeah they're gonna in the end they're gonna say see we're getting you to think about power solution we told you you're a stupid infrastructure smart cities the power outage at the North Hall the South Hall are sorry the central hall our South Hall here where we're based kept running that's because somebody above shines a happy face on the red ball wherever we are now I love the utterly unattainable is one of my first nominees it's the LG rollup OLED TV it solves a real pain point and that is TVs are ugly when you're not watching content on them you sure as hell don't want to look at black plastic gak on your wall so this guy rolls up out of a relatively small cabinet almost looks like a short throw projector yeah and it's OLED it's impossibly aspirational and you can put it just partway up as well and have kind of this eyebrow display as a home information console if you're that much of a nerd we don't want to plot your phone you just wait my heads-up little moment exactly all my heads-up ribbon display in the living room what's the weather right bring it back down it's super slick it's exceedingly drool-worthy wobbly just got something that I just saw today speaking of a why keep following VR the HTC vive pro now where does VR go from here we can I've been asking all week yep yeah good experiences in them what well interestingly enough HTC and viber going the other direction not affordability but but higher-end enterprise it's not a crazy idea higher resolution Wireless it was the first Intel Y gig technology that I've seen that is an adapter that allows you to cut the cord and move around freely and that's gonna be sold even if you have the original vibe and that's a trend you'll see eventually all VR headsets will be Wireless it fit better on my head they distributed the weight okay on my weird head in all heads and and it basically is a better VR thing has a wider range now are you gonna buy that probably not but they're pushing the envelope on stuff that will inevitably be in VR and make it better and more comfortable for wireless and cordless is incredibly important incredibly I can't tell you how much of a hurdle that is to people who are already wigged out by the idea they've got to put something on their face cut themselves off from the world stop multitasking stop having you know some kind of contact with people that are around them there has not been a face worn technology that took off in the consumer market since 1784 bifocals it's been a long time coming so you got to get past these human-machine hurdles before any use case is gonna print I applaud this very much I'm glad you spotted it I did that surgery simulator this was actually done with I think Stanford yeah and it was trying to explore not accuracy but to just get you the feel it's a little it was cool wonky controls but it made you realize oh now I understand how to put a stent maybe I know what it did I don't know it's my personal physician dr. Scott Steiner everyone thinks I'm kidding he's gonna put a stent in my arm later I said I know what that simulation tells me it's supposed to be like here's another one it's almost hard to believe so it's a stay in the medical fetus fear for a minute the olia systems Corder now this is right out of original Star Trek stuff but it's better than a koala tricorder it's a quad quarter that things about the size of a business card and what about a quarter inch thick it'll sense heart rate respiration heart anomalies temperature and this is interesting heart signature they say that everyone's EKG is a unique signature like a fingerprint they can tell an individual by looking at that chart that's new I had never thought that had not I've had neither and this thing is fully contactless I'll be honest I got to see it and grill them a little more it's got the stink of a little bit of vapor on it but I know this technology is actually being done in the medical sphere and Volvo had something similar they had a heartbeat and respiration detector in their cars a few years ago wasn't popular they dropped the option but it was a way for you to tell if there was someone waiting in your car to attack you and it would show up as a heartbeat on the key fob as you approached your car it's the same core technology I think so this is legit but the idea that you just wear this like a pendant or keep it in your pocket Wow and it's constantly doing these four measurements yeah pretty pretty cool stuff you found the sequel to face ID heart signature that's right heart signature that is the future is heart signature meet us in three years let's see it right here right here I have a weird fantasy of filling my home's walls with colored lights I'm not ashamed to admit it nano leaf which right Chris covered makes these crazy multicolored glowing alone I love this yeah everybody's fall in love with this yep and and now they're back and they're showing these square pixel like it's like Minecraft meets like crazy fantasy wall and they have these here they're touch sensitive there are gesture controls you know to Siri Alexa Google assistant and there's some crazy glowing dodecahedron controller and I want that too just to sit in my room surrounded by colored glowing lights with my dhoti why do we both love this I don't know it's oddly useless but it is fascinating it brings me back to like Atari games it's great yeah yeah it's it's all it's all 8-bit looking stuff it's low res it's blocky it's oddly creative I will never be allowed to install this in my house no there's whatsoever whatsoever but it's cool yeah it is very cool I spotted it too and said oh I wonder if Scott's gonna like this as much as I do and isn't that weird I we had a slew of car announcements the most tangible of which was Samsung's very credible entry into the automotive cabin now they bought a company called Harman last year you may know them for Harman Kardon audio which you very unlikely have in your car real real big maker of in-car technology so now Samsung overnight is a major supplier arguably the number one supplier of in-car electronic connected technology we already know they have a huge footprint in mobile and a huge footprint in smart home gear so you see what I think now is a company that has the most credible argument to say that we are gonna be the first to connect homes cars and mobiles in an in a true ecosystem to use that hackneyed old term that really works smart things appliances Harman the largest maker of in-car electronics this is a powerful combination now there's plenty of real work they have to do to make it happen yeah but this was an amazing alliance I think kind of got under under touted here at the show this this week I've been trying to catch up on car tech and at every moment it's everywhere fitness wise I didn't get to see this either but peloton company that makes bikes with training integrated yeah is making a treadmill peloton tread now if you want look the future of gyms your next fancy gym we're gonna work out it's meant to offer an immersive experience like the bikes and training is gonna become something even more important you're looking at fitness tech more than the equipment perhaps and you're seeing a lot of companies try to break through into training that's been a big success story for them smarter Fitness tools like this could be the new luxury thing if you can afford $4,000 yeah these are multi thousand-dollar rigs right my brother-in-law's thing he's gonna put that in his basement next in his nice sports bar these are live sessions with people on the cloud in who are peloton members who come a yak and led by a leader who is a trainer is from what I understand yeah it's basically like I live cuz it's like I do not do those things I basically basically what I do on this was fall off oh yeah if I get to an elliptical and I just play some John Williams music for a little while oh and that's my very good excellent strike oh very nice okay let's go outside now for a quick moment to Brian Tong who is at a company that many people never expect to see here Google for the first time perhaps ever they have a vast presence at CES showing off their hardware in particular let's find out exactly what's going on there BT is gonna tell us what's up what's up at Google BT back here at CES 2018 the greatest technology showcase on planet earth here we are at Google's booth I've been here for 10 years this is the first time Google has brought an actual booth to the show in the great outdoors of CES were actually outside of the halls and you can see we haven't it's kind of like a two level building that you can all come and visit they'll feature a lot of different things some of the new technologies that Google is working on also obviously feature the Google assistant which is a huge theme here at the show so what we want to do is kind of take you inside a few of the rooms some you'll be able to get to some will tell you if they're too so but most the stuff that you see here you're gonna be able to come and check out for yourself and just experience it so let's cut over out here to what they call the gallery and kind of mows your way through excuse me sir no you're good to go thanks man all right so here we go this is the gallery what it has is Google's technology and all the different devices that they're partnering with there's over 350 devices here that have some sort of integration with the Google assistant we have obviously the smart displays these are like our personal assistant screens from Lenovo JBL LG we have those all here big hot theme here we all know about speakers integrated with the Google assistant as well really everything here at the show it's all about AI and everyone wants to put Google's brains in their devices and as the platform has grown so has their partners we have some great sound headsets here JBL across the board with our speakers and their headphones got this big boom in JBL Lync 500 you got to love that and then even things like appliances LG signatures washer/dryer combo and even some other cool stuff phones LG's tone platinum headsets the LGB 30 and things like the cord 0r9 right your little robotic vacuum now when you come in here you'll also see a lot of different things a lot of different appliances things like over here this is kind of a fun one because it's littered with so much stuff we have different thermos that's obviously netatmo we have the nest Honeywell's eco bees up top you'll see a row of all the different smart light bulbs and it just is here to showcase and feature everything that again has the brains now what I also love about this is Google decided to kind of have some fun here there's nothing necessarily smart about this but what this is is really kind of a fun interactive demo a little diorama really cute and stylized and think of it as like a living City that Google has put on here just to showcase some of the fun stuff you'll have moving cars you have the bank in the center with that rotating dollar sign it's really fun and just to kind of add that little charm of how Google is really moving towards a smart type city set up and just a great way to like the display it's just really cool stuff so come inside here check it out and be sure to you know see all the great stuff that they have here look at John Kim my photo talk just getting low with that get in those low angles baby get that alright so we're gonna come and head out here again this gallery is available for you everyone that's here at the show to go and check out yourself we're gonna take this outside and we're gonna head to another area there's also above us a Google assistant experience and what they really want to showcases sure we have all these devices here but also how do they work one of the things you can say to the Google assistant and how we're gonna get people a lot more comfortable with using these AI assistants throughout the day and throughout really in their normal life now we're gonna swing over this way around here and this is one place that I've got to be honest with you you kind of got to have the cool kids card to get upstairs this we're gonna take you up these stairs very carefully and then take you kind of the top floor they get a really cool view of everything so you go VIP would be tazie let's go alright thank you guys all right so this is check this out this is kind of their rooftop upstairs exclusive area they've got a lot of Google Max's featured like playing music they even have yeah you feel that beat it's already out sound available right now $3.99 it sounds amazing now this is kind of a fun thing that we have here over on this spot it's like dark and everything but they're gonna treat you out lookyou we've got Google do i do nuts for donuts baby right here I'm gonna I'm gonna save one of these for you JK this one's for you this I'm gonna just feed you right here yeah eat that eat that eat that yeah eat that eat that yeah alright so you have this kind of bar area just a cool hangout but let's go to show you the view from this perspective there's not many booths that really give you this cool view of the entire show so we're out here on the front edge and this is look a really cool look over there that's the South Hall right now you can see the entire this is the show floor from kind of a different perspective at CES you could just see how massive and scale this entire thing is that great big CES balloon it's kind of like a signal to let you know you're upstairs enjoying the big show and if you look carefully you might even be able to see a little scene that ball out there you know some company that covers technology quite well from what I've heard from what I've heard all right let's just get out here check this out one more time now I don't know I don't know if we're gonna try this should you know I'm gonna ask my photo John are you ready do you want to do this do you want to do this he's getting he's getting his rig on assemble we're gonna hold you for a second this is gonna be the first ever slide camera slide this is this is this is boss this is legitimately boss so upstairs here you got a great view but look not all of you again can go down the Google slide we want to give you like that feeling of what it feels like so we're gonna send John Kim my amazing photographer to experience this so that you can experience it so John be careful look at this use of slide is at your own risk curl up in a ball turn the camera around on you John show yourself show yourself he did it alright we're good we're gonna come down now I can see you we're coming down baby we're coming down all right we did it that's a quick look awesome booth here Google's you know hey Google Google assistant that was awesome you went down the slide I went down the slide we'll have plenty more coverage CES 2018 stick with us t let's talk about this last technology we want to bring to you with Jessica dual court here that she's very excited about this is one of the Holy Grails of phone engineering it finally happened fingerprint sensor without a visible sensor yeah it seems like such a small thing but in the phone world it's a really big deal so I went and I saw a phone made by a Chinese phone maker vivo and it's got an in display fingerprint reader it's actually underneath the display on the outside exactly so you have the entire expanse of the six inch screen and you have a fingerprint area it's where the home button would be you kind of press it a little bit you really got to put a little bit of force there and it unlocks so far it's it's pretty fast it's fairly accurate but this was a pre-production model the beauty of all of this is that there's no physical button taking up the screen it's there when you need it and then it totally disappears and then you use gestures sort of like what you would find on the iPhone 10 to get around instead of pressing a home button another pet peeve that I have personally there were fingerprint readers on the backs of phones and that's another popular place to put it if your phone is linked down next to you and you want to use it you have to pick it up and unlock it that way every single time if you don't want to swipe and do a pin or pattern or something like that so it's very it's very specific important technology that was rumored to be in the Samsung Galaxy phones and then in the iPhone 10 and that never happened and we're seeing it for the first time not as you know just this fanciful thing but as a real-life working model not a prototype from a Chinese phone maker I think that this is something that we're going to start seeing in premium phones in 2018 and beyond it's gonna be a little bit more expensive to make and use so that's this is not something we're gonna see in every single phone in the next year it's going to be very selective and to be clear the company the vivo has the first prototype here synaptics did the part so other brands could have this a company that makes the component so I actually was able to see the sensor and the circuitry that they use to put under there right now it's holding localized so you can't put your finger anywhere on the screen you really have to put it in that one area but they kind of light it up digitally so you know exactly where to go you're just home ask you that yeah interesting we think Scott big deal or yeah Micro first world problem no I think it's great and I still feel like something like face ID it needs to be improved a little more and for accessibility I think you should have a fingerprint sensor anyhow maybe you could combine them yeah the other thing phones are one thing but things like this oh yeah I feel like you know you have to add a passcode on this not just for smartwatches but for any little thing that you want to authenticate you could start putting this now instead this even though sometimes the smaller realistic is you're pointing out the benefit more real estate do you get more screen real estate but in addition to that I mean if you've got something like face ID which we're also going to see on phones in 2018 yeah I I wake up in the morning I look at my phone if my face is smashed in a pillow it's not gonna recognize me your fingerprint if it's dark if your face is obscured for whatever reason you always have that biometric backup I would love to see the two of them together okay all right I'm convinced I gotta say I came into this thinking it was okay you know gilding the lily but you've pointed out some use cases here both of you where in that seems like a path to some really really sophisticated technology it's very simple and it's one of those things that maybe doesn't sound like a big deal but I think we'll see established use kay is that it actually dude this is this is sort of a wave of the future I'm starting to see it a one that I was excited to see more of I think and that was more phones along the lines of the axon am folding phone we didn't get a Foley didn't get any foldable phones here at the show this is something that we've been talking about we know that there are various phone makers that have patents on this that are planning it Samsung said we were gonna get one this year so we're still waiting for that and we don't exactly know what it's going to look like so that the ZTE axon M has a thick seam in the middle it's basically two 5.2 inch screens next to each other it folds open like a book it has some really legitimately cool use cases and potential however it's one of those things where they're just like a lot of really weird kind of I don't know like hurdles to usability so you know it makes you left-handed artificially whether you are or not it feels really unbalanced these are something that the phone makers are going to have to work on in order to make this compelling for everyday use not just like oh great idea that I will never buy and also the specs have to be you know they have to match the price has to match this back so you will pay more for screen yeah but if you've got last year's technology do you really want it I could say a lot of a lot of advertisers are spoken to here at the show many of whom attend here they're intrigued by the idea of dual screens because it helps to solve the battle between content interrupting or stomping on advertising and vice versa and all the viewability that everyone's ki about just give each camp its own screen simultaneously here's the content on the Left here's the ad they bought on the right no one's worried about viewability they're both viewable but then somehow the ads will end up on both screens exactly you'll never find a way around yep yeah you're on it I'm not so I sold on the dual thing although I feel it's this is more gimmicky but I think about the Nintendo DS and how I felt about that when it came out and I thought that was the most gimmicky thing and then it became a really amazing game system so you never know I just I feel like it needs to be really good I think you find ways to use it in your everyday life where you don't so with a folding phone I'm leaning down but yeah one of the use cases is is multitasking right so you can have your video on one screen and do something else on the other you can open it up and have a larger display if you don't have an ugly seam down the middle or I kind of like this I don't know if I would use it but you can sort of fold it like a tent and imagine you're sitting across from somebody ad on a table you can watch the same video or like a mini laptop or like a mini noble concept with the keyboard like maybe you're typing something yeah to wrap here the one that everyone was just wondering if it might arrive and didn't Galaxy S nine what's your forecast on it now I never thought it was going to come here that is not part of Samsung's historical release cycle it just doesn't happen this early so that is a phone that is widely expected to come at Mobile World Congress which is the end of February and leaning into March or quite possibly if Samsung doesn't hit that target date it could come as a standalone event afterwards we've seen that happen with two of the Samsung phones where that event will take place in New York but it's short so you're either gonna get Anna February or you know to mid March and then we'll see the phone hit store shelves probably late March April I'm guessing all this but just based on years and years and years of noxious cycle yeah I mean we're like about 10 years in fairly confident that this will happen and you know it will be interesting to see if some of that technology finally does make it into the Galaxy S 9 at the most realistic use case I think will not be that that s9 is foldable but that it could have a fingerprint sensor in screen or under screen just like the vivo phone that we saw say that's interesting cuz of you if you look at the production time obviously I would they would had to have been engineering this new part in to the inspect for the s9 so I wonder how they would feel about the fact that someone else stole their thunder and yet they'd be the first big phone perhaps dead you know I actually think it's the other way around I think you know this the interest around vivo could be sort of a validation if Samsung is planning this because this is something people are getting excited about its hyped up the vivo phone is not announced we don't have a name we don't have a price we don't know what it's probably appropriate it's it's pre-production but ready for production okay so we don't know when this is coming out it's very possible you know oftentimes when a company announces it first they're not always first to market Samsung is a global brand vivo is really mostly known in China so and this is came here could be Samsung's gain as well what happens with synaptics in the past you know sometimes we'll see a concept and then you will see it emerge in another product you know the course of fingerprint says yeah the trial balloon brand is here the main go to market brand is over here it's a good harbinger of it yeah I mean we've also seen things come to other phones first like wireless charging and waterproofing and then Apple comes along and it's like it's been invented for the dates that whole pixie dust is a whole other story all right Thank You Jessica appreciate thanks for the update very interesting technology there that's it for day 2 of CES everybody for myself in Scott I'll Scotch 9 thanks for watching we'll get that stent done afterwards if you wanna go yeah I'm all ready okay good great