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welcome to the world of TV they always thin oh you don't need a TV thin no speaking of which ah here we go ah if I to give it foot again show TVs but here everyone that's got 3 30 days it's right there getting all right ok now now tile you'll be very familiar with it so this is uh this is at the LG stand they have one of 20 leads look at that organic light-emitting diodes shown at the show as we've worked out today this is using a white OLED so it's essentially a screen which is just a whole bunch of white pixels which uses a color overlay with the whole whatever it is six million pixels all over the screen so essentially it's a white TV you put a couple of filters over bits of glad wrap or whatever do you have glad wrap in America yeah it's called glad wrap yes oh if it's made by glad yes the Medusa ran why Uncle Sam Uncle Sam wrap so essentially so it's it's a big TV with lots of little light emitting diodes in it that organic made of some sort of liquid stuff and they pump a signal through it and that's what you get a really thin TV with really really excellent black levels and it's so thin that you can't even plug an hdmi cable into it well that's the thing it's got a separate cable box that connects by proprietary cable not even a hdmi cable so we're looking forward to looking at those are coming in September of this year on my guess is that they're going to be around the seven thousand dollar mark so when Sony came out with theirs which was an 11 inch back who doesn't it I remember believe was about three thousand dollars mhm so you're looking at about five times the screen real estate so you're looking at probably only half or twice the price because I guess it's coming from Korea not the Japanese made sony sauce doesn't have to price premium it involved but if you think about it even at seven or eight thousand dollars that's what the very first plasma consumer plasma TVs were back in like you know almost ten years ago when people were like wow I cannot believe this 42 inch 420p ed TV is only seven thousand dollars I need to get 1 2002 is going to rock and then the prices came down and the resolutions went up my first plasma was with was a 420 because it was like 2004 yeah and that's what you could get for well i think when i bought a 2,500 bucks my first plasma my first plasma my first like my little memo do his podcast 42 inch it was also it was five thousand I think and what was the resolution so mine was 1080i okay okay how was it a high tachi it was yeah I touching my 1080i plasmas and I don't understand how that works you have 1080 lines but it's only int'l i sire and it didn't accept 1080p signal no it's a very strange strange and it also had a breakout box that connected via a proprietary cable so yeah I don't know you don't know how what I don't know how that was really good story the end well I I started with the 420 yeah when I went to 720p those broke down and now i have the 1080 look out if now that's new thing i mean there's a lot of buzz this year about the types of technologies that were involved i'll it's anything but there was talk of 4k and even 8k aj so you think the 1080 eyes were you know the bee's knees are not look forward to 4000 pixels by two thousand pixels coming next year and they're looking at blu-ray recorders that one so blu-ray players will actually play the new spider-man movie in 4k on you know it's ever been shot in 4k no that's no one's one thing maybe but spider-man sponge impossible and I the facebook movie what was that cold brilliant social occasional because their shot on like super HD digital and so they've got that red camera okay right that's full k but you can never go back and find old material and re-release it in that 4k format not that the human eye can discern that from living room distances they're not going to go back like old black and white TV shows they put out on DVD and now even blu-ray ridiculously there's never going to be a 4k seinfeld box that has an egg drop them with 3d it has a shop to move blu-ray for a lot of this old material also is for kate is basically for your ray bradbury felt like wallscreen that's just right have your top to bottom eight 80-foot I don't know because where else he can appreciate that was going to be emotional more mad for like movie theaters and stuff yeah i mean that's exactly if you're going to have a gigantic screen if you're going to have a 60 inch screen I don't see where 4k makes it like you say a difference in naked eye for connects you hear that thing to cover your entire bedroom wall like tight yeah don't you know this when you go to a movie theater and they have digital projection of a digital signal what is the resolution on that that is definitely a 4k screen okay so they're already already out there in the professional world absolutely what you're looking at is the sony usually it's a sony camera out in the cinemas and what they do to give you 3d passively is they have the revolution resolution to 1080p so you're actually so you're not seeing interlacing all right sort of thing but I mean it is a huge screen so you could see artifacts if you're really looking for them so what they're looking to do is bring that technology into the home what we're going to see this here is an 84 inch LG screen probably around September time and coming in two weeks or less is going to be a toshiba I think it's a 70 inch it's 3d passu sorry it's not even passive it's auto stereoscopic which means it's glasses okay I saw you know what that is one technology that is not ready for prime time I looked at all i love 3d I like I left 33 d scott and i have done a lot of work on the laptop side with both with active and I am glasses free all right there sometimes and I've hated it other it's not ready for prime time I look at all the stuff I even stood on the axe at CES were you supposed to stand right in front of it does not work what do you think it's just really hard to look at I don't know if you remember those magic eye pictures of years it's like trying to watch one of those for 90 minutes at a time imagine trash it's a pirate ship don't you see it a part of sin and then it pops out that toshiba one it depending on where you looked may be in the center of the screen sometimes it looks amazingly clear and then instantly on the edges it doesn't look clear and then you're out of it and then it pops in again and yeah had movement across the screen doesn't work well with those I tell you you're doing an awesome job with this camera sky thank you i pressed another button i don't know it did but yeah everything looks like all right I have a very important oh we actually know I have I have one more show off actually Scott we'll get you out first now this is something a little bit different it's not in any of our categories but I thought it was clever enough to show off and capture but I'm not sure anyone would ever actually buy and use one and that is the that is the I'll do it hmm so our tune cartoon is materialized thank you for describing that I don't know a button type rest but there we go again that is weird I didn't get out now yes the person was sketching on the note dizzy now yes it's a shame if you like caricatures your dream has come true and see if you like yes like doodling while waiting for the bus so this is the samsung galaxy note it's a 5-inch it's it's a phone and they're saying it's a tablet is really just a really big phone or a really small tablet and they were showing it off with a caricature artists and stuff and people drawing I thought was an interesting concept I was like hey that's kind of cool looking I just so big and so small at the same time I can't imagine anyone would actually buy one so they have to be a monthly date you can't choose a tablet it's the phone so you gotta pay a monthly data and voice the thing with a tip I told my samsung PR friend that yeah that I had a if I was going to do a Deadpool for CES 2012 the note haha she wasn't happy you know it's funny we told them off too because they had a data chrome dated new Chromebook remember the Chromebooks the thing that I do from operating system oh you review the samsung idea but we saw the rise laptop we saw the new one hanging in there and we were like oh you still have one of those I like how much is this I went over what did you know it's like a low-powered you know notebook I guess yeah it's either got an atom or now some them just have an old falak cell Rockefeller r celeron and it just runs no real storage on board just runs the chrome browser / operating system I was like so what if these things like 199 or something to like 449 okay get the a fatty I never said in the middle of floor you have got to be messing with me although I didn't say exactly like that I think you have got to be completely insane if you think that you can buy a perfectly good 11-inch you know a AMD e350 laptop for like 3 99 or a little bit more for like an intel core i3 that runs like Windows 7 anybody pay the same amount for the chrome and the atom every time I say that to somebody they are that are big chrome I don't know you go to Chrome and you go read my post there's people the really yeah I get it trying to defend uh there there are these items are only laptops are they built by they buying these solution nobody's they're buying their building a chrome if I solution you me am not really a solution at all you can't do that now so no no what they're saying I one well it doesn't want you you won't get ever all day battery life with that you you gonna kill have to charge it it's for people who enjoy all the battery life in a browser that does not a trackpad and a keyboard bonded to it like I don't want an ipad it's idiot once I want the laptop version of the ipad you don't need security software that i can close and use and run flash also productivity proof which is I which is sad because they know i will tell you they know that thing is not does not yes leave me there they were not actively offending the hardware they both both a suring samsung the hardware's fine the hardware is not the problem it's the idea yeah the first gen had like Intel Atom zinnemann stuff it just may well no I'm just saying a thing for google you don't need a lot of you don't need a lot of power to run a right freakin browser so it's not like the end of the world that it has an atom in it I'm sure that there's no point I'm sure the opportunity presented itself they made a thing for google to show off chrome and that's where it stands like I don't know if it's anything that's that's the nature of the whole relationship is a contractual obligation is to protect it's like our guy that's my theory I no evidence to make one of these I guess it's is where's the knee there's no they say they manufacture it is a proof of concept of a concept alright alright let's just let it all I say Scott nice a lot of samsung laptops there that we liked Emily the light should come out at some point just not that chromebook which is what I'm saying the hard game yeah yeah I make very nice hard work yeah they're gamer laptop was potential yeah that was really cool yeah that was cool series 7 and the end the series 9 15 inch really thin 15 inch yeah I thought that was cool too I have a practical question we're gonna go around and take a little survey since we're talking about laptops what laptop did you take to CES why and were you happy with it and since we started late we're already going over we're going to keep this a little bit on the brief sighs I'll start I'm gonna start with us I'm looking directly at you is my silent way of indicating i thought i would like your answer so essentially i took i think it's Adele its can t remember the name of it it's one of them really this line a lot of juice it's been provided to us by our kind employees ok so you took your work left exact yes oh wow that's so it's my 1330 that we've talked about on the show before sort of died the battery kind of fell out and the our key doesn't work anymore you can't be a pirate against our or it heats up it's horrible and so yes I took my work laptop and it worked very well I really like the new dell business line there no well in the back like a battery life is good for you yes rano know about two hours wasn't oh my god and and it says the same was it too heavy to carry around all the time no it's about two kilos whatever that is in Paris I've no idea what going for what about what's that an American that's probably about four pounds 4.44 pf4 okay yeah I'm full pounds there we go what about you Josh sir look at Wolfram Alpha over here hey know as I've explained to him before a key of coke is 2.2 that's coca-cola kids yes coke sorry yes Miami Vice Oh anyway uh HP DM 100k 11 inch yes ultraportable yes low-power the long battery life decent performance yeah and only it only wasn't good during the live blogging because I don't know it it got really bogged down and I can't tell if it was the whole live blogging and of it or my computer but ok ok I was the only hiccup really a had edited video and that is a favorite of many of us yeah now that's what last year scott and i both bought 11 or 11 / 12 you know ultra portable size laptops i took the macbook air 11-inch and scott took a lenovo actively a 12-inch but you know same class and we both like them but i felt battery life was not as good as it should've din i had to go and recharge a lot my bad that was my big thing my battery life was good i really hate the touchpad on mm-hmm yes I great let's get that's your 399 laptop touchpad yeah it tends to erase things just hot because bring in yes hits the exactly you're talking bear the finicky touchpad yeah that was right on the fence with me with my decision literally the night before I was leaving in the morning it's like the most important decision we make all year yes as a picking your sword a two laptops right next to each other both charged both ready to go I was psyching myself out illness I no one was the one was the macbook air 11-inch which seems like a perfect choice which I took last your ways yeah and the other was the HP folio 13 which I was currently working on a review which is so new it's like untested right so I thought I don't know if I really want to take a leap with that one at the moment and because i've had problems sometimes like that last year I took the lenovo you 260 liked it a lot the battery life was short now in the end i did take the folio 13 that being around the bush the reason was simple I went with workhorse decisions because I know it's CES things go down wireless networks get weird and there's no direct ethernet port so it was as simple as to me I could get the dongle but I thought the folio 13s got the Ethernet port and it's got the SD card slot which again last year i think i forgot to bring an SD card reader and so i had to go buy one and I to make sure it was in the bag and I just like in case someone hands me although this year the photos were all uploaded I don't think we really need to transfer photos from an SD card you never know and then I thought battery life on this theoretically should have been good in the end I do not regret the decision I was actually quite happy I was surprised I think that showed through y-yeah the review was so positive i think earn an editor's choice because this made it through CES which they got let's show some Beauty shots they're on yeah here it is I mean not a bona fide uh that is a top know before you have the gold ores are just a lot in here um it's a sort of i just called not the lighting is a yellow in here it's a titanium it's a it's a brush metal it's sort of a little bit in that direction but it's it's it's silvery um it's a it's a it's a business e-type look it's very clean it's got a cloth keyboard though it's a backlit keyboard not um and the battery life was really good the best we've seen on one of these I quote ultrabooks you know the ones that are officially being called ultrabooks six hours uh and it's a little thicker but heck this thing is light it's about three points still qualifies it again enjoy I sit here to help finiti right it's light enough it's lighter than any I mean it's lighter than a macbook pro and thinner than a macbook pro for comparison obviously thicker than a macbook air and and the ports are great on it's got everything you need USB 3 if you've got anything which I didn't but the back the keyboard was fantastic mhm and I got me through everything easily writing very fast wake up from sleep very fast boot time the one problem i agree with you and it you know happens on a lot of Windows laptops but maybe some of the HP ones I've seen to the trackpad it's a click pad it's a little bit finicky and again I was working on stuff and cutting you know cutting and pasting or highlighting yeah it within within our tools and all of a sudden something we get shifted because I use tap to click and it got really weird okay I mean that's across a lot of HP laptops that touchpad especially the chinger scroll oh yeah that Apple does so well haribol kind every time you know what they updated the firmware on I could have used a small touch pad but the two finger scroll works fine it's a yeah everyone thought it would be no that's nice that's not an old sure that it doesn't feel ultrabook light no not compared to the others either technically it beats Intel's I mean it's still having enough to kill someone with it's a little over three as opposed to a little under 30 that's the number one fan experience there it's always somebody with the thing is it awfully sad I feel like I get his jam also what I like because it's kind of not precious so you don't you feel you just jam it into a backpack and not worry about it um you know I mean about flex going on so I I liked that it got me through a lot of problems and it did not have to be charged very much at all so good kudos to that but yeah I could have done something a look I would have liked an 11 inch or 12 inch version maybe with the same type supports but do you feel like you made the right choice I do although i think the i think the speed and convenience of some like the macbook air 11 sure that sexy you take that around but yeah made the right now i use the previous generation of that 11-inch macbook air last year and my problem was again yeah the battery would not last all day especially when you told press conferences at the venetian and everything well that's where that fell down I took the 13 inch air this year and that would actually I never had to worry about that running out of power i think the the delta between the 11 inch and 13-inch battery life is actually pretty big it's about two hours and pretty significant yeah you're doing stuff like we do that worked out great and it's light and it's thin so you don't really know she have it I didn't take my iPad around instead and try to work from that I've done that before that one thing we were talking about before you know productivity versus a toy and I know that there's been some internet comments about the fact that an ipad is not a toy but i believe that is it doesn't have a single using a vote stories and live blog stuff live blog from the ipad at events did you feel like in an innie and what no way we're great for the live blog to we just have to type it's a great that was great real life and i filed I filed stories on the ipad and cat3 last year just as an experiment to see if i get as and when you go back to ya guessing something that's real but efficient critical though I mean I don't even want to experiment I've used this I think the iPads great free not essential work getting work done travel computer like if you need just to get a few things done like when I went to England with my family is just enough you can get work done if you need to but it's not like anyone saying in one hour you get to post up and then you get a live blog this event and then you've got to make sure you over here at three o'clock that stuff I would ever bring an iPad for like if I had to go to a live blog of event that was being live blogs and I was just doing like the color commentary on it like we often do and I didn't have to do anything else I would feel comfortable the ipad yeah yeah because i can type really good on the screen I would except i get annoyed if i had to then I like simultaneously may be working on a story and then if there's something yeah why blogging then you have to file something with a knife like I said if that was the only thing I was doing yeah why is the keyboard in all caps what the HP o-o that one hmm why is it no games yeah sorry it's a secret I isn't it it's always bugged me I don't know I mean not that the regular keyboard isn't in all caps just I don't know anyway Thank You Josh just me sorry well oh here but it turns and instantly turns to lowercase me oh also just what cuz it's a letter yeah wait at the moment you type any it'll automatically happens yeah they don't stay that way they just turned whatever you need no I understand but the the actual letters on the sorry it doesn't matter but then look on my phone which is an android phone Oh as soon as you hit the first I know that's what I'm saying that regular keyboard it's it's the same as a regular keyboard adjust you want to transform ya does transform done yet no it doesn't it doesn't which is in all caps and so I can't see that's weird yeah I never noticed that yeah me neither I think on the iphone it does transform ya maybe it does NOP that doesn't it's it's an iOS good thing Hey look at that we've learned something new today all right I think I think it's a good interesting discovery I think it's a good moment to to continue wrapping up just because we started late and you know we don't want to run away too long yeah but does anyone have any III know we had some other stuff to talk about we can come back to that next week maybe weirdest stuff Scott played around with another new on live product from the streaming guys but maybe we can shows the video that or just demo that live next week they'll talk about it on live desktop which allows you to essentially make your ipad into a window 7 environment and other and the apps do that also right but but none of them are very good to date maybe maybe this one is better although where is their iPad gaming app so now we're previewed back in December and I guess the stories that Apple has never approved it so essentially is that on live desktop went live right at the moment that they said it would and yet the eye on live gaming app which is really it is ready to go we have it installed provisioning on our iPads and it's great I had my back you notes I I'd installed it on mine already oh how did you do that I got a provision code oh no so I mean we're saying is it's good enough to go yet it's interesting that Apple is not approve that as rapidly there's some problem there we don't know whose whose problem is I have it on my phone so as you guys remember we voted best of show at CES oh yeah they just redone enjoyed to that that oled TV mm-hmm I agree with that I voted for that Scott would you have agreed with that vote yeah I do I did agree with oled TV just because I didn't think there were very few interesting technologies it was the visual of the show it was the eye-catching moment yes as a story to tell your parents i don't know after seeing the maker but and make a basket to that I know oh I was that I feel that stuff it's been around for a while yeah but not in your consumer ok ok I know it at the maker faire in New York doesn't make her fair this is C yes same thing though same products a manufacturer I mean the reason with myself and David Katz Meyer deliberated over this was because the two standouts were basically Samsung and LG and I'm just thinking in the next couple of years we'll ultrabooks matter you know there's a lot of shifting going on in form factors at the moment and ultra ball called whatever it is that they're little Foley regular yeah well be a million little different form factors but what's going to become quite apparent in the next couple years is how good ol it is and we'll look back now and say if we put up with those crappy little TVs we've got OLED now oh yeah we never need to go back your TV envy even if you just bought a brand-new TV totally true yep so it's like she sees it was winner of the show I mean he voted for samsung sorry he voted for LG i voted for samsung but it was not only due to see well yeah they were a bit we'll see native about what it actually was here's a question I want know about very quickly is it eventually something you could it almost sort of paint on your wall because if any enough you could apply it and make it sort of like the wallscreen you've always wanted but yet they're talking about it being thin enough to print on t-shirts like you know you get that led t-shirts now you'll be able to roll it up into a newspaper so we're talking really really thin it only needs to be pixel size so basically whatever the size of a pixel is less than a millimeter whatever that is ninjas I don't know but so we're looking at understand millimeters we don't send kilo metric millimeters lillimae did you get I got that we that we get is so I don't get micro inches is up with you probably never heard of that like you a new marketing speak micro and macro inches yes but a 3.4 micro inches thick the new LED LG is having high anyway next week on live desktop demo listen it's all because of the tech problems we started late for obviously a little uh well something today also i'm going to show you some interesting stuff I found out about how to stream the Super Bowl because got you know a huge football fan I am yes be online for the first time this year but next for the best week to discuss all that stuff weird restrictions especially on the mobile apps for that really yes but we will talk about that next week and who knows maybe josh and i will be back with us next week it well I don't you have nothing to do right now I don't open all right exit I don't have any theme music or anything ready because again we couldn't get the streaming working so I'm just going to say do do good lie you mentioned football by the way that's I did time I think ever you brought it up next week I'll be talking about it a lot more and I'll say in the meantime if all the show on facebook at facebook.com/ / unit labs cast on twitter at cnet labs cast and I put all our twitter names in the tweet about the show and we'll follow up with that later all right take the music here goodbye we're heading out