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all right look at that a perfectly executed intro thanks to our friends in San Francisco we're actually running the live stream for this thing which is really the way we should do it because we're just not bright enough to do to ourselves I don't know Josh Cohen thanks for joining us today stepping in the last minute you have some exciting hardware for us scott also has some exciting hardware Julie's been testing some exciting hardware and I have some slightly less than exciting hardware and I'm gonna start off with that by by pointing out that I have right here in my hot little hands what might be the world's last netbook remember the netbook computers got and Josh and actually julie teeger all too well talk back it's a time traveler from 2007 or 2010 where everybody thought oh I can just get a 300 our computer and and and that was it so I'm going to tell you about this guy which is brand-new despite the fact that looks like it could have come out at any point last several years it does as God has got the razor blade super high-end gaming laptop that we talked about last week and he's gonna try a little live game demo on it to see how it actually works as a gaming laptop that's not gonna be with the customizable buttons because almost no games have those customizable button Ryan playing like the old republic which is will date that you played Skyrim you can set up customized albino it should come with that and there's something have said that asset sets but just just to show you how the gaming runs on it that that's all just don't know I think the fact that popular games don't have button sets on it is important yeah you could you could cost I'm just saying for those people are going to say I could turn those buttons on this I could paint flames on the side of my car too doesn't mean you know my car comes the flames on it yeah I gotta do it myself that's true I'm i think is some sort of like a team kit sort of customizable uh sure whatever uh josh has got the josh's got the very uh buzz-worthy how would you call it Lytro camera we see that for a second oh sure here it is it's going to say photography's god that's right here ya know I you know photography's say photography from the photographers but yeah there it is I've heard about that camera that um I yeah I just we were so much about it and moulds I will hear more about it from and of course julie has been testing this netbook that razor blade and some other fun stuff in the lab and we'll hear what she has to say with all that stuff uh I'm gonna start off with the netbook which Julie just finished running the second battery test on and compared to all the netbooks you have to pant you had to test over the last like three or four years how was this experience different Julie it's just as aggravating as it was the first go around and actually that sucked well we're cameras gone um yeah I don't know what happened there do we accidentally unplugged your camera I don't know anyhow yeah that's not the worst way that really just literally just happened right I will go to the overhead chef frustrating that all cameras have gone dark Josh's cameras gone too yeah all of our game we're being sniped one by one I know wow this is this is interest oh there we go okay great yes folks it must have been a brownout nothing the power okay tell me about the netbook oh nothing I just start sucked worse than any other nut book that I've gotten in like the past ever two years two and a half years um it wasn't it wasn't fun let's just say that is it was exhausting than the other atom processor know anything it was just as frustrating if not more so in the battery life any better battery life is consistent with on that books you know it'll run you know like this one ran for 10 minutes 10 10 hours and some change um these things cost less money well they still cost 300 bucks which is about as you can possibly put a screen and a keyboard together for it's still the same price range that has always been so frozen in dollars yeah well they'll be on the backwards too because it came with one gig of ram I gotta say now that you have so many tablets out there that are a little more functional and the iPad you dropped in price 399 versus 299 would you would you trade up to an ipad 4 I mean look at line here it's exactly the same as these things have been for years it is frozen entire entirely correct you can write on that with keyboard but you are yeah the processor nothing's changed and the price we're doing more power-efficient maybe there's a slight improvement performance but these are still Intel Atom processors and not doing anything that special and that's reason why the last Intel Atom laptop that we reviewed before this was in june two thousand eleven and that was actually a Chromebook I you might have written that review Josh you may you reviewed us and so no one has sent us in Intel Atom windows laptop since months before that probably about a year ago yeah so it's all surprising that this is is it does that mean Intel's just like that no because this is a brand new version of the atom I think it's all the money 600 IV trail something trail cedar trail I don't know it sucks well I got a sister up there used to be a place for these because they went out and they said oh these are kind of like you know you can get a secondary computer or one for your kids or travel machine and they and and and everyone's like all I could spend 300 hours on a laptop instead of a thousand that's great and there were no tablets at that point and or no job or no I know iPad said actually the first time I saw and was were kids on a plane clamwin so but I come as they oversold it as they always do anything fad like and and and they try to convince people that's all you needed you could just do everything on this and that turned out not to be the case and people were disappointed if they kept the expectations down to what a netbook should do then the you know it might not have it was like anything they over they kind of over saturated the market and then it crashed I think at this point I know the margins are apparently as tight as they can be but still drop the price if you want these things to exist right now when get done 250 199 i would say 199 for some of these things forbidden is like a bio by a thousand our laptop get one of these for free yeah and i'm gonna get to why should be but if it's gonna perform like an atom netbook and it's not yeah if you've been making the same thing for five years there's no point but there's no point in why making it at that price or making it there's no point in making it and that's true yeah there's no point there's no point to make i'm saying if it exists right now but this is the only one I haven't seen another new netbook announcement a long time this was denied did you ask them why they dated or well this is uh because they were ad yeah CES and had no others who said no other laptops to announce this is no this is the only thing they driving ahead started this that's true hey Brett the netbook into the world and they have taken out like I think there were Walkman for like you know two decades or whatever how long were there walkman I mean they're still making ipods even though most people don't buy though or three decades yeah so they keep that brand alive so I'm not super excited about this particular system I mean you know it is what it is we actually try bringing in that book recently mm-hmm onto a plane because I wanted to use the iPad and Joanna was going somewhere else so we had a netbook kicking around and we actually relived the experiment she took it with her on the trip play movies all stuff it's not doing it again no and then for a hundred bucks more the same 399 is the ipad 2 is now yeah you can get one of those AMD 11 inch ultra portables that's a lot better you bought one of those too yes look at this you well you are mr. example for all this thing for all these things no I've never had a netbook he said you're not every I ya never had a netbook but the DM one it was why do you have a team and you review the last Adam client op so there ya so yeah no good I don't know you're done with these but those are great that's a different beast those those 11 inch ultra portables that's a yeah I mean and it got like I said last time I was on it got me through CES just fine m would you trust your seat yes to want to be no no yes senators that we can I would agree Before we jump to scotts the laptop let's take a look at this light row here which I know we all heard a lot about but I don't know if we've really done a lot of live demoing on on shows here but I mean there's really nothing there's not much to if you turn it on yeah I didn't take I can take a light or a photo of damn by the way nice watch and I must be looking at that but your watch is also quite something so everybody I just I just shot that photo I'm just gonna show up yeah look at ya nice alright so there we've got the mmm so it's gonna focus on that and then focus on Dan see that everybody see I can do it right with that person again well we can and then you can add em out there go yeah I see that focused on the mic uh-huh and then tap on Dan and how does it do that can you explain the the background here it's a software magic it's not where magic and ponies you know I like pony um as yeah it's it like field technology basically it's a regular camera sensor but they've fitted it with these micro lenses and it allows it took is it essentially taking a whole bunch of photos at once no just sorta no no one shot okay but it's pulling light from all directions so it's it's gathering all the light from all directions haha so so it allows you to do stuff like shoot without focusing because it has the information that it needs in order to yes sir focus Lee that's where the software comes in and they take the software and process the images and then you get that whole are there an infinite number of focus points uh not infinite but a lot years a lot okay there's a lot of I mean for your average photo you're only going to be able to focus here like three places because I thought it was sort of like almost like taking like photo data for all the different shots at create oh yeah so it is they yeah but it's not taking multiple shots it's just taking one shot it is not but the freedom of focusing wherever exactly yeah using software showing those pictures I mean certain pictures that are embedded like damn is saying that you can see on a certain pages that have the dollar bill stretching out towards you or so it's an impressive effect at first although you know a little obviously kind of gimmicky because how many times you really going to use that and need it I can see maybe like sports photography well and in certain types of shots that's the thing is that right now and everybody so it's a one trick pony emits not really a one-trick pony it does several things and fact is that they'll be able to keep updating the software and do more and more right the images so right now yeah it's the you poked in the front you poked in the back and you get and you get a thing you got a picture so I mean I mean it it runs out but basically what I think will happen at least initially is you'll end up with a bunch of user groups that like micro fans like people who shoot with 3d cameras have a group you know I know everyone's probably asked you this already and you've already probably answered it multiple times by the question of can you the feasibility of taking that technology and putting it into uh yes until point shoot yes and and but will anyone do it I don't know or smart phone smartphone I could say I'm sure I trailerhood licensing or making their own point should take the thing is require so much processing power to do it it's not going to be so it's really all in the processing power not so much in the actual lens right exactly it's in the micro lenses on top of the sensor and their ability to process that information so it's also the combination of hardware and software you could just make this a software update to an existing product right what exactly would you need a very deep barrel because of that no why is it why is it shaped like a couple reasons but for the the main one that I was told was that yeah the main one I was told was that no no was then it allowed you to gather as much light as possible for the their first camera too you're holding it wrong it's like these really not no I'm just kidding it's a joke but you're not you have to be about six inches away from your closest subject for you to get a good Lee focusing on no macro is then no there is matters right yeah yeah you just have to change to a creative mode I mean if you can shoot macro shots I like the feel of it though it's got a nice sort of feel in the hand and it sort of like yet yes got it actually you can get that right up to your object with the macro it does have nice gadget feel it does have a nice gadget rubbery smooth here and how nice it's a little awkward at first but that one yeah the 16 gig is 499 okay eight gig is 399 and then how do you get the pictures off if they don't see a plug or a porter and there is there is a port okay what it was it be yeah and a software only works with mac OS right now oh really yes okay but then but you can still in bed the this some sort of embedding tool for embedding the images on their website yeah actually what you need to do is you have to use their software to offload the photos when you upload the photos this software they give you process all right we'll throw that picture you took in our in our podcast blog post sure you can see it until it's embedded in my own skull like yes I am half light row yeah I would we say is tetsuro the Iron Sky really yes for me I mean the refocusing thing the you know the ability to poke around in the images is fun but for me the real nice part is the instant shoot you don't have to focus you can just shoot can I say outside the box my thought is that first of all I think ergonomically there's a little bit of like Oh what am I going to do with this how am I going to hold it feel yeah because it's sort of like if you're out and about it almost feels like a camcorder but there's no real palm grip you gonna hold it in your fingers like a big cigar right perhaps value I ended up holding it like a sandwich yeah perhaps got if you were on either the Nina the Pinta the Santa Maria right stand on the bow and Lestrade laceration searching for the new world pretty much how it but check out the viewing angle on the LCD just is a good or not good no it's terrible oh yeah it's a regular uh bad LCD yeah it's Terry could be better it's the first generation products tiny and so there's yeah there's no there's no the second I Josh save your photography or cheap gimmick I don't think it's cheap gimmick I don't think it's a savior alright I'm not about why I didn't think that is because I don't think photography need saving oh so uh well it's not no no it's not that ain't kidding no I'm what I think what I my point would be would is that more and more people they might be shooting with their smartphones but a lot of those people are getting more interested in photography because they're showing smartphones so there they are actually trading up to camera two real cameras that's a good point it's almost like a key or smartphone is like a gateway drug for photography yeah it definitely is um and you know someone written that story that's a good story no but you know the crappy point and shoots at the low end or disappearing right people love mega zoom cameras and they they want 20x zoom lenses and you can't do that with a smartphone and there's day that's one of the few areas that the manufacturers are seeing growth in is anything with the long zoom lens very cool at mi to like outside the box applications in the real world I feel like for this one security cameras right it's like me ultimate see everything later secondly I feel like they could add a second and build this into a pair of binoculars because usually when you have binoculars you are dealing with depth of field a lot why could they dealt us or a binocular camera where you could use it spy something and then take photos I just like the form factor you looking crazy oh yeah I really I heard it's amber mention who you really fly I'm just bird watchings pretty much it i mean i don't know you look to me like I'm insane no no it just I mean I don't know that it would I'm not sure what you wanted to do nope not there's a little we like a better like if you had a this lecture technology built-in repair binoculars i just like the form fender what would be the oath and because you're dealing with depth of field i'm often turning the focus on bachelor's or I'm dealing with right we'll listen you don't do anything with depth of field in this you just shoot but I'm saying it's all about depth of field so if you had after about that effect right I feel like the little wheel might be more efficient yeah yeah I don't you don't like that idea Oh we'd love that Sony's got binoculars with cameras in them if you want if that's not when this be a better one I'm not sure why all right gentlemen I would like to see something else here that's very exciting and that is this razor blade laptop we talked about last week I showed up line two we did now we're gonna see some gaming on because we had some concern that the graphics were not powerful enough right let me see do that Scott's gonna set up this laptop over here which is a camera at his screen whole thing on the back that it does and it's green yeah automatically you make your light thing green that I'm all overs about to go gonna show graphics on it and you know rich brown was setting it up to there's a big pc gamer playing skyrim on here said it to um you know pretty um bad actually it's better than a little it was choppy when i was playing it looks like better net like pretty high I don't mess with me so sorry um like not highest settings on ultra settings but let's play up there but it's playable but not as good as you get on a super high-end sister that's pretty good chopping this but the screen looks fantastic i mean the clarity the crispness on the screen really it's like that yeah meta main man christmas look it's not Christmas on this during the Christmas is Christmas like no it's crispy it is very crisp and I'm it that's I feel embedded but you know it or it's not is not a screaming gaming experience but is absolutely playable um so there you go i'm a pisce tree looks fantastic but again as you point out got the big the big selling point which is that these custom LED little buttons they don't have a Skyrim set right now so if in this game for example you wouldn't get anything extra out of that there is no no you well you can map to anything so I right I know right but it's not like there's a Skyrim button said you might call on don't I yet from what we didn't say phone we saw me a lil standalone macro keep an innate moments if I know and that's why I'm that's why I'm taking the hit for you Scott by pointing out the the weakness of the system but yeah there but I said what they think this about 10 to 15 games overall there have those and we are going to how many how many do they have now and not not that many alright um you know hey don't we gonna have 10 at some point that doesn't do any good it should be around this time but the the number of well yeah we want to do is install this and have all this work and frankly want the second screen of work with the biggest pc game of the last you know year to have a custom button set already and ideally you'd even want that second screen to pop up and do things in the game there's a lot of stuff in Skyrim we could do that yeah but the I have to say though and I said this before we're talking my hands on I really thought that having a screen via the touchpad or whatever reason i thought would would make it a non-responsive it actually is very responsive compared to other touch pads I thought so it's not like how the tennis look I mean the the the lineup buttons that you can put any kind of graphic image on that's great yeah but I'd love to have you know like the skyrim buttons that ready to go or or whatever else you're playing mass effect 3 I don't know and let's be frank um if the graphics I'm just gonna say if the graphics were up to mmm you could get the fastest set of graphics with this type of interface that would be I still think they'll be the ideal thing there are people are going to want that but for a laptop this then that's pretty good in stock it's not configurable right it's just I have one model one model but there are people i think that will i would bet would trade off the thinness and say you know what take something twice as thick give me those top and grip out yeah for the power yeah give me an optical drive and high-end graphics i don't care i like to look at your laptop I like the cut of your jib and you know give me the rest I just think it's I think it just almost forces an unneeded compromise for the first gen laptop let me say but the review you know this all but twenty eight hundred dollars I'm just saying it's ready it's good man well then it definitely it definitely feels nice but it is a expensive it's a it's almost like lytro it's a kind of proof of concept in a way and we'll see what people do with it well I'm very excited about that certainly more so than my my netbook arguably more so than the light Roberto a slideshow too I i I've another big topic actually to bring up real fast I heard you and Dave car no I discussing the our perspective arrival dates of your eye death rays uh apparently fedex has been sending a tracking numbers that i posted 10 new ipad before mr. new ipad new ipad yeah you I you I bet that's what it's called I know I know I'm gonna wait a minute I'm gonna correct you I'm gonna read you it's their generation I do your customer this is an email from the apple store I'm going to read you oh dear customer I did I set him up in any we know it you did not get a guitar we're happy to let you know that the items below or on their way to you we also included delivery estimates and tracking information next your shipping address thank you for your time and for shopping with apple the Apple Store and the product listed ipad with Wi-Fi 32 gig black parenthesis third generation good apples website they're calling it ipad 3rd generation okay so which men excuse any of the ipod touches that's what we call them ipad their generation fourth generation yeah you may want to zoom deep in my snarling ma ah I apologize to everyone out there now that weird moment when you click on the fedex tracking information it says in this particular case I don't know what Scott's says but let's see standard overnight indirect no that's enshrine ever heard of fedex they say in directing i given it to you a ticket required longest one trip up to Canada anybody else and they're gonna deliver all right March 10th shipment information center fedex march later march 10th picked up in middletown pennsylvania yep detail future delivery requested which means even though it's in fedex's hands right uh Scott you I won't get your your ipad 3rd generation until friday though they're telling fedex neither rolling I were or anyone else I'm not admitting or denying is value so can I admit I your behalf then and I don't know what you're talking about but that's next weekend out other people and then hide behind your blurred out more information Brazeau the next week we can discuss what's happening to people ipad 2 we could share sizes that we ordered yes that's right we can trade size sound dirty i do really sighs story sounds very dirty I i will look I'll go even go on the record and tell you I'll tell you that a word I'll tell you that I even ordered the 64 and that sounds insane it is probably sendin stupid the reason I did it is because two years running I've used the 32 and I've maxed it out now really I think it's like a messy death syndrome or anything else if you're messy your desk is twice the size your desk will continue to be messy if you shrink down quarter size where it's like budget that means you'll get a 64 and you're gonna fill up 64 then probably now about the cloud stuff now you can delete TV shows and even ass and get them and have you want that slot yeah but I find when it comes to cloud I know apparently game saves are stored in the cloud I find a lot of app data gets funky I do i delete something and reinstall it it doesn't always you know a lot of these apps now you're living in them with downloadable purchases yeah and and files and everything else and and so I just I don't know I it's good point I might regret it the way I'm saying to myself this is a it's expensive as a hundred dollar extra experiment but um we discover so many games and other stuff I think for most people though I would agree go to 32 I think 64 is not the 16 too small I don't think you should the six I agree know if you're already paying also I think yes if you're gonna go with the 16 then just get the ipad 2 but yeah I know that person I mean in the sense of life no I'm saying like your budget your budget shopper it's terrible but if you're a budget shopper I think it's there for you and it'll give you great experience I think with the file size increases and everything else I just think it sounds terrible but I've been look I'm that kind of person with the kindle I was a said I was a cheapy I want the $79 kindle I'm not I didn't need to buy the ad free choice gotta admit you're back I admitted I was that kind of person with the kindle I want the ads on my Kindle so I just think like mitigating it by saying I'm gonna get the new cool one but the 16 gig I think it's with the photos and video editing in the stuff they're there they're Hawking on this is think the segment is is scott's advice for poor people should that that's what it is are you part of one percent scott i I just thought you were supposed to I mean they were doing 16 gig because you're supposed to store everything on the cloud man you are but here's the thing if you're dealing with if you're well depends if you don't care about photo a video editing then you're probably fine but that video editing stuff like a you know like a on the iphone 4s a two minute video comes in it like 370 megabytes yeah if you're going to edit any significant video I movie on an iPad if you've dreams of that then uh especially the footage you didn't shoot on it you're gonna deal with gigabytes yeah how many at least 32 I just think you're gonna end up at a point where you would say oh I just wanna how do i upload this and then you is there they don't store that home video stuff in the cloud but yeah for four movies it's true you could trade them out although i did discover and greg sandoval reported this already that not all movies are redownload opal right now okay because a weird licensing restrictions I thing as a happy was I purchased I can read out I was able to get my my justified season 1 episodes now that i'm watching a living uh Josh ipad for you yes or no no okay good Julie you still still no ipad for you nope not evenly to 399 ipad 2 nope do you know if our pal joey who buys everything is going to get an ipad 3 no he's not his day he skipping he's saying that now he skipped he said he was gonna get the ipad to either and then he showed up yeah but his boy had him like he had like three of them and I got a little bird he literally got a delivery all right gentlemen ladies we we we've gone over I do have one final plug to to throw an ear for a friend of ours Scott not Scott Stein but but the person he's often confused with Scott Steinberg to see my Walter writes about games and technology and stuff he's a book coming out tomorrow and he writes these books and they're about all that's my camera quick is saying auto power Oh Scott Scott Steinberg is more in shape than is he a blinking but I have a thicker and thicker quaff anyway his new guide his new book the modern parents guide to kids and video games yes comes out March thirteenth it is a free ebook apparently you can get it on I books on amazon and also from uh parents guide books calm so there you go Scott writes for USA Today sometimes a CNN and generally good guys gotten I have known him for years yeah actually that them he wrote stuff for maximum back when I was uh okay or a long time so so so so friend of the friend of the podcast check out Scott stein's new book modern parents guide to kids and video games start at parents guide books cons that I did I not say that it's good sign I can use oh I really look Wow Scott when today i right well there you go everyone thank you for joining us today and hopefully we'll do it again next week and the week after until they tell us to stop coming into ticket I good bye bye I'm Scott Skyrim hahaha love it you