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CNET Labscast Ep. 21 iPad 3 hands-on, big ultrabooks, and an 80-inch TV

2012-03-20
alright cool I think this gets a little smoother every week and thanks Steve attempt to go for actually doing the talking about these cool gadgets you don't have right here Joseph exciting looks like a case it is a kid what one side look in the case yeah all those big news last week that's right the ipad 3 i know you can tell immediately it's an ipad 3 not an ipad one or two right you got in the school targus case that they said don't you guys it is a two times before well that's that that's the big thing how can you tell uh you know the difference and and and you've got it too I've got a three cats meyer and i spent about 40 minutes on friday sitting on i'll tell you the story very quickly we said you know how far you have to hold it from your face to tell the difference with the higher resolution and catch Meyer said to me well how do you usually read your iPad I said well you know in bed usually so how far is that so I sat down on his floor i put my my head up against the back of his wall and stretch my legs out and said okay let's pretend i'm in bed and then he gets on the floor next to me so the two of us are stretched out in in this faux bed just on the floor was off as leaning up against the back wall a holding iPads at various distances in front of our faces to try to stimulate that sort of reading the newspaper in bed experience and that was our sort of ipad 2 vs ipad 3 resolution test now i will say uh that that now i'm sure ty you've you've seen both screens now correct um only from about this distance and and what was your and what was your immediate reaction to that yeah i got that knows about the change in resolution that much it does it bother you that it's a higher resolution than HD TV no no it doesn't um because most monitors now if they're not 1080 they are a little bit higher you know for the 27-inch and 30 inches they are what 21 by something right okay but i think you to monitor yeah exactly so the fact that it's quite high in resolution it's good because i know that when i had the original iPad you can sort of see pixels I'm you know being a TV review I instantly noticed pixel structure so the fact that you can't really see it now is good and but I don't think that it's that leap that that strophic leak that they saying that it is like we were looking at a lot of photos and some video and was hard to tell even with super high-res photos I thought with with text it was a lot clearer especially if you kind of you pinch in and zoom in if you're reading let's say a website online like a news website like scenic maybe or like the New York Times really or an e-book or something else with text on it or the notepad thing actually that made a big difference but for regular stuff I could really see it Joseph my like my only gripe is is that they give you the retina display is great that's great but here he has no please please why would I want what I me personally what I wanted was a higher capacity I have a 64 gigabyte and I have to keep deleting things when I had other things I've over a hundred ninety apps that are taking over 20 gigs of space now you can just redownload them it will once i give her the ones you know this thing i don't want the codman but that's that's a thing okay the people that want the cloud and they're people like myself who don't want the class the whole meal the whole point of having a device like that is not being reliant on anything else i can be somewhere where I don't have a signal I can enjoy a program or I could play a game I don't want to have to depend on a hot spot or a Wi-Fi place I want to know I can have it and even now I'm updating my apps and they're larger so I'm updating my apps on my my second generation and they're taking up more space for a higher resolution screen so even that in itself should say hey should scream we need a higher capacity device so I'm a little disappointed that the retina display is nice maybe they could have kept the camera off and gave you a higher capacity if they wanted to cut back but I would prefer 32 64 128 and i will say that until they do it and everybody else could be happy with the iphoto of the aisle I for the I this all right but I want space but what I want to pay would you pay more for 128 well I'm well I'm saying they could have shaved the Cameron and given me and giving me the the higher capacity I would have tried I would trade how to use the same camera and taking a higher capacity instead interesting people interesting now I i thought i'm going to show you a picture now the thai ads of what I did was I went to the New York Times website which I read a lot in fact I'm actual paid subscriber to to that and I took a screenshot of the reader view of an article on the ipad 2 and then I did the same thing same article same paragraph on the ipad 3 that's right there we go now if you look at this big image there depending on on the quality of the stream you may be able to see the difference I know it's very obvious to us here in the studio on the left is the ipad 2 and on the right side is the same text in the ipad 3 it's like night day I mean there's really no debating that right now it doesn't into a blind person like me that's great because I actually use my iPad without my glasses but I got I it's very frustrating because they do this to you like every time it's like give you a slightly better product for the same price everything is the render the retina display is already old on the iphone so it's so it should be so impressive or such a new thing to the iPad because we've seen it like what two generations ago on the iphone it's on the iphone that's a little tiny ver what I'm just saying so it's on the iphone now the ipad gets it so basically now what the iphone 4 I mean it's me the iPad 4 is going to have Siri because we don't have Siri now it just it's just very frustrating that they they do this to you and they making they have people who really love their products as salivating to have everything in one place at one time um the surprising thing is the fact that they rushed for jiendo because normally apple doesn't make things mainstream until it's until it's mainstream so I think the 4g thing they were kind of forced into and that's probably nothing that brought their costs up and that kind of short us or maybe getting the capacity because there are too many Android tablets out there screaming 4g and when you're out there for those who your iphone now says 4g on it even though it's not really 4g they change the letter on it hey hey listen there are people who thought the iphone 4 was 4G so they didn't even need a letter all excellent points um I just think the text if you read a lot it's really different and a guy on the I think the silicon alley insider Business Insider took a technology business news website uh they had a good little short piece this morning that I actually liked a lot where guy said he got the iphone the ipad 3 took it home over the weekend ok lo looks fine no big deal then on Monday he went back after using the new one for like three days and looked at someone's ipad 2 and was like i could even read it it was so blue it was just mind-blowing and I did that this morning I got out the ipad 2 uh and look I was like whoa you're right how do they ever read this what the hell was I thinking well it's it's like it's like it goes back to like when you are when you with televisions like when you win if you have a high definition television at home and that's in there's a certain station it's Walker there's not available high-def you have to go back to standard definitely oh my god how did ever watch standard def but there were times back in the day where people were loving dvds and and you know and 480p now you just get used to it you get spoiled but that's nice of the screen to careen you you used to watching what a 20 20 inch in ever more water you never work past 27 32 was a lot i remember the 19's man that was a standard hey listen i'm dating myself I had a black-and-white TV uh sorry my idling are I my friend to this day in his in his house this is this old school it doesn't work anymore but it's the TV that's set in the wooden box yeah and to the right is like the record player and the speakers and everything are built in it and the doors closed and you can open up with the TV so he has like his new TV on top of that I've done that I've been there temporarily but I mean you know what it's such an antique you can't get rid of that you can i would i would just assume gut it and maybe put like a flat screen in there and it's around model epoxy and the modded put something something in fish tank III try to show you one more thing uh 11 more new ipad thing and this is actually not new for the ipad 3 you can actually play this on your ipad 2 or your phone but i'm addicted to it now and there apparently were like four million people playing this game simultaneously last night in the course of one hour they've they've I think 20 million people downloaded it in like four weeks and that's draw something if you haven't seen it I gonna hold it up real fast it's like words with friends meets pictionary I started my first game more oh good good we'll have to start playing now so I have a choice of drawing for the person i'm playing with a cook rest which I guess the concept the concept of rest or a suitcase which is supposed to be hard i think that's the easiest really so i'm going to click on suitcase I don't know how this game actually goes I've only played the first rounded where you draw something so that's what I've done okay so be cool guest something really drawing guests on out now if you saw that I guess it looks more like a briefcase than a suitcase I should have done it differently maybe a bag like as well as long as long as it's not a thermometer because we played a game Axemen he drew a thermometer and it looked like a piece of a male anatomy it's a thermometer in did not look like a Julie and I get a Julie gonna test it did not look like a thermometer missiles only thanks to you good yeah good an upside-down turkey baster right let's see maybe a maybe a little handle coming out of the top ok now this doesn't look anything like a suitcase I've completely failed if I were a lawnmower it looks like a yeah it looks like a trolley cart with like a coffee machine on it all right or one of those dry cleaning I did not doing this I did not do a good job there that's all I'm going to say but there's been an interesting couple of hats who's on the site in the last couple of weeks Sharon Beck know they right I have to go back and read those now that I'm playing the game but this there's some sort of stylish you can make with a piece of foil and a these'll forget how really low rent to me but the thing is he can actually get stylist is fairly cheap there between 10 and 20 bucks mm-hmm and they actually look quite good so I wouldn't play with a pencil and better for myself I wouldn't do that but if you wanted apparently if you want to play draw something the first thing you should do is get a good stylist or get it for the the samsung note which comes with the style is right right huge 5.3 inch it's just I always game for now but if you could play an android samsung that would be great to play that really and it'll be coming to android right we can only hope it's a matter of time that's alright so going from this 9.7 inch screen to a screen that is approximately eight or nine times larger hi what exciting thing that you have that we wanted to look at it is simply too big to bring in here okay it's called the le8 no sorry the le 632 it's an eight inch screen by sharp so we've had this in while i will put it on the screen now we've got Joey pointing at the Justice actually I'm waiting from they put it up so here we go so here we go put this and screen essentially this is an 80-inch um I tried lying whore what would it be diagonally across that thing and so I couldn't actually if you're six foot eight that's and laid across that screen I wouldn't be the least surprised so that is what that is it's 80 inch screen it's basically what they're pitching a to is people what sport on we had was it a Knicks game playing on 50 what we did is uh we have a hardcore well we have a Georgetown alum in the office and she's really sweet shout out to Liza I'm sorry about your boy is armed she really wanted to see the game and she was like fascinated with a size of TV so tying myself move the TV in the general population and we played the Georgetown game on that deal of television and they happen to win that game maybe we should just because of the idea maybe maybe we should have kept displaying the gtown games on that 80 inch our fault guys I saw that you guys now how did you actually get it out in the hallway because that's got to be it's a hundred ninety to a hundred and thirty-two pounds uh I'm like one of the rickety wheeled cars that we know what are the real horse danger and we pushed it right down the aisle real quick did that we did the quick jump yeah it was funny it's a monster we're gonna probably do it we're probably gonna set up for the final four as well I see so essentially we've had this in the office for a couple of weeks not great if your movie buff really now why is that essentially it's well it's in LCD I'll see these are really hard the large sizes to light correctly across the screen because you need a lot of lamps and lamps costs money so what it is it's a budget 80 inch television arrange that now it's 13 years ago four years ago shop no not shop sony put out an 80-inch which was the same amount in australia this was the same amount in dollars as it wasn't screeding sighs there's $80,000 oh nice so this is an Australian destroyed which is what about pointed out four dollars 30 yeah so it's essentially this is a five-and-a-half thousand dollar 80-inch so this is the first time is come on coming under 10 grand so how much is this guy so it's five and a half thousand yeah that'll be 500 if you go for a 70-inch it's it's half the price so it's about two and a half thousand oh it's also quite reasonable yeah so it's not a great screen but what it is for is for in a lip room you're watching with a couple of buddies Andy and you're watching a game or something like that I'll tell you one thing we the nice thing with that was we had it set up out there people walking in front of me and I could still see the sky that was the best I I will see it bring productivity in the office to a screeching halt the two of you on I think was Friday right it was friday but i was also you know that was popcorn day nobody makes their numbers to the other question that's what we're gonna blame that TV no Hendler has his crew tight i see who's got it held down over the world I'll tell you something else about this this this TV essentially is grateful for angle Joe sure great for gaming on we it's got this thing called a viper mode which is essentially a like a lossless lag type situation with a turn off all the post process yeah so I had wipeout playing on that screen it was amazing oh no it was great fun the only problem with this television is it's not 3d which I was about reading imagine modern warfare on that bed in 3d into the glass in 3d surrounds I think 3d on something that big would probably make you cockeyed yeah I iris make you feel a little bit you gotta you gotta set a minimum distance back our apologies to anyone who's listening to the podcast but you can easily download this and look at a project and watch the video or really reviewing which will be coming up today monday that's that is yes excellent i look forward to seeing that do you think we're gonna see more 80 inch and larger tvs this week oh well that's the thing once you get beyond a inch there's a hundred and six inch out as a more of a I guess commercial model and that's a hundred thousand bucks whoa hey now yes so those are all still 1080 nobody's going yeah no one's going for 4k yeah we know there is a 4k coming from LG later this year and I believe that the Schieber is almost on the market if it's not right now while we're on the subject out a question I was posed to me bye bye Andrew Henley he was asking cuz he's caught up right now he's thinking about getting another dlp he's looking at the mitsubishi nail pages because you know i got that really because they have a 92 inch well I also looked at do peas and funnily enough North America is the only market that still sells DLP's in the world so there's still a market for cheap huge tvs and i think that's what shops going after here they're going after that market obviously it's more dlp but you'll actually get better image quality than you will out of a DLP because you know lighting conditions off angle with dlp is terrible you got to sit right in front of it it's not great with this television but it's better so I can see dlp disappearing from the mark in the next time I'll bring it up because of the size of this TV and yet the only thing you can get larger than that would be a deal piece or they can get a projector yet yeah but come on it tho those days are done on the wall projectors are good to be around long after D up easy well because you just take it you can make it as large as you want you around and they're people who build whole projective rooms and stuff so that's going to be the money option or the the budget option if you're one really big screen is to get a decent 1080p projector you can get them for one or two thousand dollars they're not going to be to the equivalent of say a five-and-a-half thousand dollar LCD in as far as black levels because you're still going to suffer from black levels particularly in a lit room mm-hmm but uh yeah I mean if you want big projector still away I just always assume you need a dark light tight room for rejected or really work absolutely but that's a good for gaming that's a lot of fun icicle like there's be like a lot of clubs in New York where for some reason different was into sort of one video djing which is just stupid and but to then when the video TJ was done they put on like this is you know should how old was they put on like a PlayStation like one or maybe was a playstation 2 and and people would like be playing games on these giant walls in like clubs I I worked at the All Star Cafe in 96 early cans of the club no no it was it well I worked in the AV Department and they had a 27-foot Fargo in DAV go they had a 27-foot barco screen and I actually hooked up Tekken from the first PlayStation in there it was great seeing martial law larger than life but we mostly played on the 6-foot barkos I won so many free meals from the kitchen playing tekken good excellent excellent should we treat that with this new v speaking of smaller screens getting bigger i want to show you guys two things that are i think if you see three of something it's a trend so i've got two right now one more and then its trend time and then i'm going to hear about the mysterious thing you've got a risk but don't tell me yet Oh nuh-uh we've talked many times about the Ultrabook those super slim the super thin 13 inch laptops are comic macbook air well now they're starting to expand the Ultrabook repertoire if you will and now we're seeing 14 and 15 inch models that all have the the Ultrabook tag which is uh intel you know created the name that concepts we have to abide by their rules in order to call yourself an ultrabook but we were starting to see 14 and 15 inch models first I'll show you 14 that we've we talked about before from history they lean back dramatically behind me so this of course is that HP Spectre with the glass lid like I don't like this thing another part it's part i pat ipod our you know ipad important obviously wants to see it yeah yeah really is it when it's closed the kind of has like a tablet e sort of look to it i like i like the board layout everything I like that little I'd like this uh yeah the glass over the I liked that bit there I like them actually like that because you rest your hands on it the grease and oil from answered on that plastic and wipes right off its glass well glass plastic whatever it wipes right on white right off what do you getting before you use a laptop dude there you know many times our first of all you know many times you could be in the lab where this goes for anybody because I've seen I've seen it happen you it in this office it never fails the minute you put food in front of you someone needs something from you where you have to get online or looks at them I've walked in your office I've seen it happen to you I know it's happened to me I've seen it happen to Julie I don't know if it's happening at I but I've seen it happen a lot I fee but what does that have to do with the fact that the fact because the fact that you're eating something and you automatically you barely get a second ago for this chewing and you got your laptop up and you're looking something up equity and this is that's better but our larger point here Jace it's fried chicken proof there's a larger point here is that this is a 14-inch ultrabook but feel it's kind of big and heavy not like you not think in that book here when you pick that thing up the glass word imagine heavy the glass w making every but you know what that's that's something people want you know they want something that feels solid they want something that looks like it costs or if you like a board would it cost which but a secondary display under that glass you know be nice and maybe nice if they put that track pad on this like was on the uh what was that the razor like I like that try was cool oh yeah that would a little bias with it to the right cuz right towards right-handed people but I don't you left-handed I'm right-handed okay good but my sons mothers left and that's why I'm only conscious of these things mm-hmm but yeah so that this is a voyage for ya the 13 age I would take it you'll get it out a Michigan flipping around one in right now it's sort of from here looks like a business laptop but the thing is once you put I mean to hold in your hand like this fine but when she drop it in a book bag it's not that bad and the adapter for that's nothing people in taking consideration yes the laptop is little weighty but the adapter for is very sleep in sexy it's not like one of those big xbox 360 you know power supply adapters that convert like freaking solar to I like as if that this is the first time I've ever heard someone use the term book bag since like 1979 boop boop boop what's up an appt at least she knows it at least you know the book bag no no it's a knapsack but when you're in school you have your nap taking of your school books in it so in school you would call it a book bag when you're like in the fourth grade ah we used to have like a little string right yeah had a string on it and then you know the back of your chair this is the this is the KFC HP edition it's already crazy eyes I already a fit for your industry of us all over it now I've got something even crazier to show you if I get lean behind me dramatically mines automatically this is a 15 inch ultrabook allegedly with the malcontent in that is this one at least is mad it's the acer m3 ultra you know it doesn't look like an ultrabook it does not just looks like i did 15 inch it looks like a macbook it does looks like a pro yeah so I just a little finger than it's just interesting that you know Intel can come out three years later inside we've invented this new phone factor prevented it back but now exactly did they go back in a time machine professionally detuned dobby home theater i think i think the biggest the biggest thing with with with these could you know it's perfectly nice i don't i don't have a problem for what it is i don't have a problem with these designs everything i just think that if you're gonna make something and you're aware of who you modeled it after like you made something that's that resembles let's say like the the mac pro or the air you got to automatically underpriced it you can't go in more you can't make something that looks like it and then charge more that's why there's altar books and I 1328 99 999 when a 13 in chairs like 1290 and I think that's the biggest problem with a lot of these the fact that they didn't they come out with some really nice designs but then they destroyed asa written on right now I think I've always wanted brand as well well is around they go both ways this one actually has a really high-end bit to it and really get a bit to it now the high-end bit is it's the first it's one of the first laptops or the first ultrabook with discrete graphics it's got this new nvidia I think 640 g4 640m GPU in it so that's cool because we haven't seen an ultrabook with discrete graphics yet on the other hand the display is only 1366 x 768 and it looks very toilet ah so you're not going to get a retina time right like do you guys like you have this great you have these great graphics on here but you're gonna play games at 1366 x 768 that doesn't make any on a big 15.6 inch screen that just doesn't make any sense to me you got to go at least 16 by 9 in order to make it kind of worthwhile that's that's my opinion well Lisa another point for the biggest agree the biggest remember an 11 inch laptop is usually 1366 x 768 when you have a 15-inch but the same resolution that just looks cheap another another point for the Aged the HP laptop is the fact that now they have these homeless Wi-Fi spots gonna be you're gonna be mingling and shaking hands at least you know you can just wipe everything right off your laptop all right that's why you wipe the old image 800 right off that Jesus man we have those here is that well we don't know HBO sell the Texas two Texans oh boy so so is that a new side job a little mobile hotspot I will I would jump out i will gladly gladly be a hot spot to just not have to pay for for myself oh i see so you get the benefit and these Travis you know just freakin naked they could make it they can monogram my NYX hats with the with the WEP key on the back so I don't even talk to anybody well you'd have to give people to password all right I've said they could put the password on my neck hat and that's it they could they could do the thing so so Joseph since we're running out of time I do want to hear about this mysterious device you have strategy that you two seem very excited about and I've known you tried tiny things I type thought I was pulling his leg I've been following this I've been wanting to pick it up I finally got up on my butt and I picked it up because they're really hard to find they're actually going for like 200 and change on ebay and it is Senator the nike+ ID whoa nike+ fitness to be Jackie plus FuelBand what does that mean so what it does is it measures it measures your steps and your movements in fuel you could set goals for yourself and have it on the band or sync with your iOS device and you can set like a goal of 2303 2000-3000 so forth whatever and if you reach let me go to my goals I'll show you cuz I'm not even to my goal it gives you calories ah yeah total calories you've consistent today steps nope since I've gotten it or since I put it on 250 calories hold on sir I'll go back around but I've wonder the fuel so like my field I said the two thousand i'm at 614 right now what is few more how long well that's the thing that's that's that's Nikes little gimmick of fuel what is it it it's like it takes a combination I guess your steps tree movements and calories burns and it transfers it to thing called fuel where you can upload your scores via your iOS device you can plug your band and ended up later to the web is fuel like calories where you want both of them were like oh no don't you've worked out whether you actually you can actually go calories it'll give you Cal right so what's the 250 there that's the calories I burn Chazz I put on OLX is gonna color such as I put it on I thought it measures you consume which is a lot these are the steps I've taken similar which is when since uh what about noon oh nice nice and not taking two thousand steps into noon well you shoulda saw when you you should have seen the way I was booking to the nike store and trying to get back here for the podcast oh I say um STIs money hello and then and then rock Rodgers actually Roger Chang's reviewing it oh no I'm doing it wow it slides off it hooks up via USB they recommend that you do not plug it directly in the back computer because like the foundation the lithium-ion batteries are right here you don't want to break the connection so they give you a little band we can just mount it like this so you can either upload your load your data from here or you can sync via bluetooth to your iphone or ipod touch after you download of course the nike+ fuelband app it retails little pricey i'm selling Roger I think the ideal price for it would be a hundred bucks it's 149 oh that seems really just a 90 this is water resistant not waterproof I was told you could shower with it but I would recognize it but its debt Kevin Durant plays basketball and I intend on playing ball with tomorrow so I'll let you know what my fuel points are oh yeah because I'm definitely playing some ball I had to take off my live strong bracelet to put this on but it's pretty cool animals come in other colors I just comes in black right now but they do have different size and what's really nice to give you this little tool a sizer you can up yeah you can adjust again and it also it also locked he's got a case of the fat risk so you locked and well that's there I don't think this is this is an ideal device four persons already in shape because there's not much they have to prove to themselves but it's a good motivational tool for a chunky person like myself what days I was lazy and what days I was not like this I'm gonna tell you I'm liking this I don't know if you'll concept no that's goofy but I'm interested in the ups and the calories that I burned like sort of reminds me remember the swatch internet time that the late 90s where everything was in 500 i think it was and you then RB at 472 internet time didn't take off what I think fuels probably going to be the only thing I'm curious about is also tomorrow I'm gonna find out because it may move with arm motions I can't imagine tracking anything other than our movement so right is it you know how many steps is it giving me for doing this right now a pedometer cue light as much as Joey does burn more calories I'm not gonna tell you again it's like a pedometer that snaps onto your belt you know it's not really on your foot but it it knows it and if your cloning self abuser of course you'll use a lot more like oh my god fifty thousand does your boy a microphone Giselle that all right all right gentlemen is-is-is has been a lot of fun I feel like we've done more gadget ree hands and eyes on than we've ever done before we looked at the new iPad we looked at that big TV although I didn't hear but that kind of counts I'll help you type we look at these a ultra bugs we should wheel this thing we should wheel it in next week alright let's see maybe it's a video because you really can't appreciate it until you see it up against someone is quite large yeah should stand next to it and takes a photo or video of you posing well yeah cuz everybody everybody knows I'm like all right guys I'm like 6 foot 2 25 I am a big boy so if I stand next to and I look honest well never well that's what I've never otherwise known as 5 11 I'm 6 feet haha a correct allies I'm 6 even Ackerman has raises and issues at 6 feet haha ever forever ever ever ever ever ever i am NOT point guard i'm the prototype point guard of course all right all right gentlemen I'm going to uh I'm going to fade it out right now and I'm even going to attempt to do the impossible which is to play some music while we do it if I can just figure out one small there we go i know what to do to make this work displayed on your ipad oh yeah I guess I could've done well I have to plug it into something all right no no we're gonna I have three mice here so I keep grabbing the wrong one there we go is that nice and they still didn't fix this board to tape the key still stick to ya huh welcome telling it I'll rub it on the others rub it on the table let me just make do man Vicki Vicki Vicki sticky wicky wicky wicky sticky thank you yes thank you guys you
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