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that's right ok so let's I start our conversation again we were saying that ultrabooks was a really good idea at first 13 inch laptops like this guy the toshiba really thin really light seven eight hundred maybe nine hundred dollars but they all have like that 128 gig SSD and that's that's really cool so if it looks like a macbook air quacks like a macbook air but costs less then that's that that's a good thing the problem is now that it's become popular they're taking this Ultrabook name and putting it on everything that meets you know Intel's sort of semi secretive definitions they don't really even real publicly what all the things you have to hit to have that ultrabook sticker to be considered an ultrabook are but they're moving into 14 inch and even 15 inch laptop and I'm a little concerned that i'm going to show you one Dave right now look at this laptop this is a 14-inch from Samsung oh I'm was trying well don't hold it right in front of your camera hold it a little bit back yeah there we go so that's a samsung series 5 ultra and it's a 14-inch laptop you know what it's a relatively slim relatively lightweight 14-inch laptop it's got a its got a CD as it's got a DVD drive in it here take a look at that feel that yeah it's got actually a regular 500 gig hard drive in there so it that seems like a fine 14-inch laptop i think it's about 850 to 9 50 depending on where you buy it but nothing about that says ultrabook today we'll call it laptop light yes it's a light laptop but does that look like an ultrabook teams that was like a macbook air is that one have an optical drive and now okay so i think that either does macbook air that should be the definition to me that's part of it definitely it's it should be you know a certain that 20 millimeters is usually what they say to 2.5 pounds well this is let's go through what do you guys if you could define an ultrabook how would you define it well the problem is it's not mine to know did a fine let's do it let's give it a different that's define it come on well if you were III would called something different because then it's not just open only to Intel systems but i think that the basic things that we've been working under 20 millimeters or thinner I don't care about weight so much because once you get down that then you got to be a certain weight anyway solid state hard drive that's key and obviously a core i3 or Core i5 not some weird old like pentium dual iron atom I think it's the most important factor right but once you get down to 20 millimeters or less is going to be lightweight no matter what but this guy here the Samsung again is called an ultrabook weighs four pounds yeah like 3.96 and was essentially for Pat what is it retail for it's like eight 59fifty but it's a very nice thin laptop if she if you showed this to me last year I'd go out that's a really thin 14-inch laptop but you show it to me now and say it's an ultrabook I go come on really guys now you're just stretching the definition because you had a hit so you have to find everything you can in label an ultrabook and they're killing the category now before it even started in in five months they've killed the category now by saying well anything is a 4 pounds hard drive instead of an SSD optical drive it's an ultrabook it's crazy not the midget we've seen thinner laptops from Samsung well sure they have their own uh they actually had their own ones that are much more ultrabook like but don't use the Ultrabook name for a variety of weird corporate reason that's a series 9 yes so so so that is my concern that is my complaint they'll be story about this obviously later about how they've oversold this Ultrabook concept the one hot thing they could have had they finally had a hit in computers was last time somebody was excited about something with computers well I mean I by the same token I I don't think people are actually looking for computers just by the Ultrabook ran they say oh they walk in a store and they're all sure they want a thin and light woke notebook they look for something that's uh it weighs a certain amount has certain processor processor in it and after that that's all that matters but that was the that was the key with things like centrino from Intel you didn't have to worry about the things you knew if you bought a century no computer what seven or eight years ago it had Wi-Fi in it and you could connect your work network in your home network he was like a label where you knew you were getting at least a bare minimum so they wanted ultrabook to be the same way if you just go let me see all your ultrabooks at the store you knew you were getting something that was kinda like a macbook air well that's now sometimes that's not that's not the case anymore problems they can just walk in and say what are you I can't I say give me a back look at what's it would give me a macbook you know what do you have version macbook air yeah that that to me is what what the real Intel seem to think that you need to invest three hundred million dollars to develop these other things instead they should I just talk to you why they call it window care ah that's good that's good a week we call thee we called the dell one the dell book air the dell XPS 13 ultrabook those are all very nice so or the or the air book or the aerbook I'm after Apple would have objected to that one they should solve it win slim win so I like that see in slim we could have saved in tough 390 dollars right that sounds like a cigarette break and like Winston slim or something we know slim well it filters yes by the way big oh that's my rant for this week III think they're taking this Ultrabook Brandon making it way too wide and killing what what was actually interesting to people exactly cuz they had a very rare just like netbooks were several years ago netbooks were hit unexpectedly so everyone had to make all these different netbooks and they killed the brand same thing here no they say the ipad killed Brad well that too but they were already you know people already fed up with netbooks well I might have the ipad came well I think the problem with netbooks was they just were so underpowered and they didn't evolve and we're still disappointed with that that chip they'll be out of ya who stopped making it they pretty much have we saw one netbook all this year so far stop making these poor guys at a sous cette went over we're just like really they make a netbook which is an i3 in it called a day yeah yeah it's called the HP DM 1v it's about 500 bucks will say I don't mind I'll sacrifice some battery life just to get what I need to get done who needs 12 hours of battery if it takes like 20 minutes to encode one song the convert one song from a rip one song from a CD well that's why they were cool at first when the network's first came out and you you we were all working here when that happened was like because they were small they perform their 299 they're disposable pretty Pettis is almost twice my but what was interesting was that chip was supposed to evolve and it doesn't really seem to that's correct the keep putting out new versions but not any faster and they don't run any longer so I'm not sure they're a quad core atom you know they were to do core atoms but that had no real effect on our on our benchmark tests at all it just gave us two windows when you look at me when you looked at the fast to give you two windows what are you doing sorry I should have my little box here i could put stuff on I have to lean over and pick it was oh yeah all kinds of stuff your Davis all kinds of stuff let's talk about ipad i got an ipad 3 you got one Joey you're still on the two but I feel the draw I feel you're getting drawn in I show you that screen difference you're like not sure I want it so bad I don't uh huh you can sell yours back to uh what's a place where you sell your iPad's I'm not showing in this week is el ghazal yes no this is this is gonna be Jordans I bet it's gonna be my son's all right all right I mean he has the leappad he prefers this over is leappad so this okay if I'm going to 46 if you say so because that you know what will happen right I'll have the 4 which will have the retinal display it'll be even thinner if planning way ahead of an wait wait advantage make it thinner they're gonna make it thinner and I made that pound and a half thing out of my face all right all right so so I asked Dave to bring in some of his favorite ipad 3 cases I have a few examples as well maybe we can just go back and forth and you can just tell me like which ones you think are really oh yeah ma yes I like that actually yeah you you actually have a couple there that I also i'm actually using one of those the one I have on here right now is the the STM the grip grip mm-hmm which is very thin I mean I'm really funding that with the ipad 3 since it got slightly heavier it's better to go to a thin really think case the nice thing about this is that it's thin and it has this little kickstand on oh I like that so if slipped a doubt let me see that you're holding up a little it yeah okay and it's got 22 little kickstand so you can actually put it into three different angles or two different angles and you know in terms of really thin cases it also feel nice it's got this like surface like the Stay I mean then what I don't know how this is going to hold up over time you know when you start rubbing stuff it's like rib yeah I like it but you're tableting pleasure Dave I don't know i think this one costs about fifty bucks mm-hmm they all they all tenant costs that the good ones tend to cost a little bit more but there there's also another they also have something called the skinny which you have there i see the Kantian but i'm liking these STM cases i like their laptop bags make a lot of really good laptop bag so i got the skinny right here that's good that's why I totally had a version of this for the ipad 2 also that's got a bad sort of got a fabric for it dumb Griffin just sent me one today called the what I like that it doesn't fold like this but the one thing i don't like about this particular STM case is is this moment that goes in there to me that's how you stand it up that's how you know i'm just saying i don't like it yeah i don't like having to worry about this thing or have it flattened out and around I agree thank you Dave I mean no problem this is another was another slim case from a Griffin okay Griffin called the in telekis which I've literally just I still have a plan to be on it but it's also a very thin case this one it sort of looks like an apple sorry I'm moving away from the mic but it looks like an apple smart cover oh yeah totally um and then it tucks in behind it's got this little Ridge here on the back mm-hmm um one thing I'm curious about that's interesting he actually hinges that yeah that seems a little it does over time with that turn white and just break off I feel like it might the way Joey handles things I think da hah right right I handle it ruff Ruffman oh you know a lot of case makers actually didn't have to do anything to their case the case is still fit yeah anything with a little bit of plane at this for instance is the is I skins or a case which they simply rename the aura to but didn't actually change anything about its the or two for the ipad sorry but yes that's not confusing you know but it well because it is confusing is not even the ipad 3 it's the new ipad so everything is confusing now and this one dan I know I know he has the UH it's funny you mention that is this the way now another you guys he's got the pad and Krait and the other guys is actually this is actually case for the kindle fire but it is from DODOcase yeah they make really nice ones do dodocase they have one a new one that's just about to come out for the the ipad 3 they had to just the Justice eyes a little bit so they haven't sent me one yet but it looks like the Bible it's got a bamboo energy and it was carved by Sir Francis and and the other the other company is uh pad and quill right and I got that one right here here just look look like over to me here and that one's made in so this is the ipad 2 pad and quill case that I actually try the ipad feet 3 fit right in it and they have some new ones coming out as well that are actually thinner yeah more leathery so that's exactly what you said since it's bigger and heavier you want a thinner case but I tried it in here and it was fine you open it up and again you kind of gravity sort of holds it in here uh and that's pad and quill that there and I your family I a nice family business entity they make iphone cases ipad cases kindle cases and they're all sort of hand machined and really nice i've used this one for my ipad 2 extensively and i try the three in it you know the case is kind of heavy so combined with the heavier ipad 3 i felt the whole thing was getting a little heavy so I'm looking forward to checking out the ipad 3 stuff they have coming out in the meantime though I I tried out because I wanted something that was really lightweight just like you said one of these targets cases this is the targets slim I think everyone has a case called the slim and they have a couple ones and I think it's pretty cool it's got this weird cutout in the back that we all better than it was it's better than uh uh gays got the blue version yeah a little cutout in the back for the logo yeah we couldn't get dance ipad3 to fit I doubt this one that was the pre-release mock-up version they say oh my my but his didn't mind my to fit my tool fit and kinda you know goes like this it's got the magnetic thing in it and it opens up to you can go like this so it stays up at an angle but it's not as flexible as uh some of the other ones we see is just based like one angle like this oh yeah too and like this yeah you guys gotta do you gotta put your iPad's in them and you gotta do though the weight you gotta put them in there with the ipad and weigh them all suppose I this one's a Senate kind of or Joseph you could just know what the ipad ways and then just way the cases and anthem together well just put the total hbu one another total man it's give the total that STM company is an Australian company okay this is another Australian company called signet who okay that looks cool so it's a pretty straightforward folio case they have a few different versions of this name different things but it you know folds up and look at Dan now that that runs a fallible my personal ipad case pet peeves open that up again Dave I don't like the little like border the leather border with a fabric or whatever border that goes around the outside of your your tab or your phone I just personally don't like that look that is one of my lap that's one of my tablet case things that I just don't like how you feel about it but yeah I mean I i like i like more form-fitting ones but i like the entire screen to be sort of exposed and this is why this is a this is the odd new oh yeah so if you're going you know spelunker with your tablet what the heck is the otterbox that's the dark knight case ah it's actually they actually made it slightly this is the defender series case yeah it's got actually a protective built-in cover right in there mm-hmm they claim to have made it actually a little bit smaller than the previous model because these guys are really bulky these kinds right but it comes with a waterproof no but it comes with this it actually comes with this thing that that goes over the top of the cage to protect the screen and also has a built-in stand inside so that's what that's way to make a stand out of it but they have a couple these you know sort of more for like you know the military if you're out and you know action guys Afghanistan or Iraq then or you let your your child use it yeah well there was one case it was kind of made of a rubbery sort of cell material that you suppose people like throw off a building or drop a bowling ball on that's what it was no that a bowling ball on yes yes it was that I figure that was now yes or no but that was more of a sleeve yeah yeah yeah that was asleep this one I they actually resent me this one it's from zero chroma it's actually it's designed to be to work with the smart cover and a lot of the back covers for the smart they're supposed to be used with the smart cover don't have a stand on the back but this one actually has standard swivels and so you can prop your iPad up in a vertical or horizontal position okay so that's just a back cover for the it's supposed to go with a smart cover but are any of these better than the Apple smart cover which is brilliant in its sort of simplicity I know Joe you're a big fan of the Smart Cover I just got to protect the screen when I drop it in my bag that's it I like the fact that you need for like a different kind of case like the ones were showing off here or you like a smart cover I honestly think the smart cover should be included the day my bad okay that that's a good point but did you ever get like a net like a third-party case I've my car I've got a spec I've got I've got a couple lingering I don't I don't this may sound crazy to some people because everybody buys their iOS device to sell it I actually bought it to touch it and use it and i spent seven hundred dollars on this thing and i'm not touching it through no damn glass bottle mm-hmm i'm judging my ipad look at me the whole time you're talk I don't mind I don't know buddy reading my lips babe yeah but actually i purchased it to touch it i think one of the most elegant things the nicest things about an iOS device is the way it looks and feels and I think it just crazy that when you go out you spend X amount of money to buy you never get to cover it up well here's an ear that silly trip this is my iphone exactly doesn't get a touch it but it if this is the lifeproof case and it is totally waterproof and drop a friend of mine just bought that yeah she was going to the Bahamas yeah so you know the snorkeling skiing anything in water anything your kids I can hand this to my kid not have to worry about it so I mean that there is that's the point of it if you could say the same thing Joseph is there any case strong enough that would protect your iDevice from there's nothing I've dropped it identity ready I've got a little dent on where is it sup it's right here right there at the edge oh wow you can see it right that's what happens that's life such as life you get you break it you fix it that's all at least I could say I touched it I used it I hate to get like very intimate but I never mind I won't do it well but will get banned if I go that route but anyway okay it matters you're a banjo my and Jojo is actually more of an android guy it should be is that is that true would you would you call yourself an Android even my phone is beautiful I'll show you my phone my phone is just a hard-living guy I've dropped this thing got a little on the edge right here that's seems fine to me you know I like my devices to get used I gave him a case for that too yes are using the candy gave me one I used it and then I took it out because I prefer to keep it on my hip that's true sometimes with my old iphone 3 I like just having the phone before though I keep that I keep that covered up here I'll show you one more case here just don't get it is another targets one is the view scape and took them all to figure out how to actually use this so thicker but it has one thing I really like which is because I use it in the landscape mode a lot um where it's got two levels of tilts and go here or you can go here so so the the pen and quill case alex is pad and quill case I like the same way so for me that's a key the multiple angles right so when the just make an ipad case with a cup hold its ridiculous or yeah I mean Jesus hey I did they have an iPad holder for strollers now I saw that it's all getting ridiculous I mean sure it should be it should be mentioned so I have this some best ipad 3 cases roundup up if you just keep best ipad 3 cases into google you'll find it and there's actually i think i have about 35 cases on there some of some aren't out quite yet i love the cases manufacturers had to just slightly adjusted ways to see I've had also there was a measure there's also been this weird issue with the magnets in some of the third-party cases where they don't work they worked with the ipad 2 but they don't necessarily work with the ipad 3 they apparently Apple change the polarity of the magnets in the did they do that on purpose of course they did course they did you know they did we all know they did I I think there must have been some sort of adjustment they they didn't feel is quite good enough I'm not sure there's some just working some down right we had some here in the office of early samples for instance from belkin the case worked with it worked with an ipad 2 it did not work with to Wi-Fi only ipad 3 this is we're talking about the smart on/off feature right and but it did work with the Verizon 4G version of the ipad 3 so it was a very mysterious situation that you know I going on there under this under the surface yeah so some some some case manufacturers are now have some of their early cases that shipped some of them are coming back that some of the people have to return them because that that that automatic on/off feature isn't working okay okay somebody in the chat room asks if it is the ipad wall-mountable and if you go back and search in these cnet archives you'll find my cnet a story about the ipad one where I wall-mounted it I think I built my own wall mount and put up in my office and they took some pictures wrote a story about that is off you can put up with velcro no they will have la they have wall mounts now but when the eye when it first came out I i went and invented my own wall mount and you can find that story say it kitchen mounts there K stands a very you know what am I got big magnet thing you prefer do I don't I have nice one is a standard that you actually put a little piece of metal ring on the back you stick it onto the back of the ipad and then there's this magnet that like a ball okay and you can swivel you I like that so they did you know it's X they're actually kind of expensive they're over our dollars fell and I left if you want to keep your iPad in the kitchen just put in a ziplock back that ambassador regret that's good i got one more thing I'll secret old secret tip wanna show you guys as we wrap up our show for today we were talking about draw something before the existing product completely popular um iPad and now android and iphone game where it's like pictionary where you get pictures and you draw them here I'll show you a little tiny bit there's the game let's see now if I got a picture from somebody let's see if there again somebody from there's a plan no not playing right now since i'm watching a friend of mine draw a picture and I have to guess what were this is basically looks like a hand dinosaur pointing at something key uh it could be let's see p I and KY I got it now you got it I got it okay you got it just thank you so so I won that so I started right away no matter how great the ipad is with your finger on the screen you're not really drawn anything that that fantastic you have to draw a camel a field or read at all I'll draw a camel the tap to draw okay so you take your finger you drawn here I'm cheating now I went out and I got this it's an ipad stylus little rubber tip is about 12 bucks at best buy this week and i just saw it was an impulse buy what could I think this I'm sure you have a got drop on them and somebody on cnet row after the show rota how to make your own stylist story i think i'll buy forget exactly how Donald L did I think it's so sunny dead so to share anything so i'm gonna slip right here I want to cam with two of you can see this and if they're watching the show they already know what it is River you're playing well good thing we're playing live and they'll to watch the tape later okay I'm or maybe they're watching let's see what the camel look like let's let's try one number two homes I want to humps and it'll just don't draw a thermometer I'll never let you live that oh man too funny as a really sad looking a cow looks more like a promise or here we go can you erase and start over you can you know what I'd put like a cactus league maybe think desert uh I'm not sure there any cactuses in the desert with camels I just an but I would just do it to get because I it looks like that's hot look at that tail it looks like now it looks like a dog with a tumor I'm gonna draw hang on hang tunes can draw some lawrence of arabia in the background you're gonna draw a mirage or like i was trying to draw some pyramids in the background i didn't work out draw your seven veil dance I'm gonna race this pyramid and and draw it again hang on one sec with my stylist that's not helping my artistic skills at all mmm-hmm okay we could put a Sun up in the sky with the Sun up there well I like that I'm gonna do that okay I got a bigger period pyramid now there's my finger pyramid oh that's good looking for the Sun up here I had a color the Sun yellow okay here we go this is my drawing for camel oh but imagine how terrible this would be without uh without the stock descendant we have think Joe Camel though I don't know is using a stylus and draw something cheating you guys tell me though okay you don't know Joseph I didn't hear the question I'm sorry is using a stylus cheating in this game uh not Allah cheating okay you have it you have fantastic I'll I mean obviously from the picture didn't help you do not help you if you help you honest tration but so you know looks like you can i it so anyway I should put a cigarette in south on again like what like a turban not everyone because Allah hats that they that Joe Camel would wear yes yeah fast thank you Oh like my man from stuff I'm cold oh sure like that all right well anyway that's my that's my tip of the week possibly my first and last tip of the week then since the rumor had it and it actually was a tip it was a tip and I use the tip of my house to drop there you go uh so you guys probably heard by now that they're getting rid of all of the cnet live shows sorry for no starting all the same time we're actually the best obviously the best weekly show I'll just um they're gonna keep the four for every day but that's it they're gonna redo all this stuff as on-demand programming which actually makes more sense because that's all point of the internet you want stuff when you want to watch it yeah appointment base viewing is very old-school very television I actually agree with that but honest I'm gonna miss my i will miss getting together with you guys every week i think we're gonna show next week that might be a big farewell show but then we'll come back and do some of these on demand shows which will be different uh but still have the same vibe the same fun people and maybe we'll get we'll get to do what we always wanted to do Joe which was take cameras into the lab and shoots down I'm gonna miss interactive my boys Harry Michael they can all Jamie with us oh man this goes on on the facebook page which we will continue to maintain and put up videos and stuff Henry psych who just came to new york henry give right that's right that's true yeah you told you interacting his best part but we're gonna keep the facebook page going and we're gonna post their own videos up there we're gonna go into lab shoot stuff so it that's facebook.com slash seen at lab cast we're gonna do the podcast naked next week that's what we'll do that that that'll be a good way to uh yeah topless podcast what I gonna do cancel it well exactly well if Julie's here we can't go topless but if Julie's not here I say okay well you go first will do shirts and skins I don't have you happy angle to you don't want to see Lorraine right happy listen Joe you seen enough but i usually am I shirt unbuttoned likely buttons you don't see anymore that perfect all right so uh as we close out we should tell people that they can follow me on Twitter and at dan ackerman and the show at cnet labs class same thing on facebook seen at labs cast Dave you have anything you'd like to plug just yeah at David Carr no AC AR noi car nasty on twitter at david carr knowing and how about facebook you had a facebook page people should go to you can like me yes are you get it or not like you're right fantastic and and they go we always a we always take a moment to plug your book as well oh yes knife music I have another one potentially coming out this fall I said are you gonna thank me in this one cuz you know admin ah you know I'm really peeved Ackerman's working on dropping another album I got no thank you in there I had to buy the book for you no you didn't you gave me a 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get for free you could just hear I get like a fraction of a penny free time you stream uh I'm around prettier on I'm pretty sure you're on the comp list Dave I would worry about but i'll run it all day for you that would be fantastic dude first of all I say do not buy it because i did not get to thank you a dedication anything not even attract named after me and that I'm and David I want to dedication your book I'm telling you guys I'm not playing I'm not playing hi I want some book love and I want some CD love these patent I know your reward I want the Joe smooth groove track and I want inspired by Joseph kaminski and well autocorrect a lot of my eye but not inspired by Jessica hahaha yeah you know I now we're too i'm very explicitly not eyes what money on one second guys you guys chat amongst yourself or moment alright so David out of all these cases which one's your favorite man i'm going with the s what are the smt right now okay and because I it's thin it's nice there there are some cases that aren't that haven't I do like to spec folio cases and their bring out the new ones up any any day now they need to make some slices slight adjustments for the ipad I have an idea i'm throwing it out there I'm throw again we're wrapping it up now just show the waters case for your iphone I want them to create a waterproof case for the ipad that floats oh that's it I'm throwing it out there i'd do it out there just attach the attached to balloon to the email is just and I want to dedicated to Joseph Kaminski's fired by Joseph Kaminsky whoever creates this a floating ipad app floating waterproof ipad case the JK the JK i like it all right thank you joseph thank you Dave JK and why that's right JK and why come in next week next week I think it's the final show and keep an eye out for the futurist in music stores everywhere and it'll track their to leave you out here oh yeah so smooth elevator going up oh yeah I think I could score to this aisle three maybe I've got except 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