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CNET News - Zuckerberg on NSA: Government 'blew it'

2013-09-11
the culture the culture of moving fast at Facebook is this a good thing or two just get you into trouble and we can talk about things like home and if you want yeah I mean whatever whatever you want to cover um yeah I mean it gets us into tons of trouble right so I'm of the belief that values are only useful when they're controversial right so you know there are companies that right out these value statements that I think are kind of meaningless because their table stakes stuff I mean people are it's like be honest it's like of course you're gonna be honest I mean that's not a choice sir idea then that's not a value you have to be honest right I'd like go home if you're not honest but if um move fast is good because it's something that people can actually disagree with right and yeah there are companies that don't move fast and that succeed right i mean i think um you know in our what i really mean by move fast is that i want to empower people at the company to try things out and I don't demand that every iteration of what we release is perfect what I want to optimize for is learning the most and having the best product three five seven years from now right which you can do by iterating quickly getting feedback learning and going from there and I mean there are companies that have very different approaches than that I mean I think apple wood would never launched something that didn't meet their perfection bar and it's served them incredibly well right so I think you know move fastest is a very nice kind of it you can meaningfully disagree with it and I think it leads to interesting outcomes NSA user data you have 1.1 million users a billion you have more data than any entity in the world and it's all of our data and we care a lot about it and we don't want people necessarily getting it then using it to do bad things we we know what facebook has done in the over the last several months to try to help increase transparency and we see we've seen the lawsuit we've seen those efforts and I don't need you to repeat them although I'm happy to talk about that if you want what I want to know is what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about these issues in our right to privacy versus the government yeah so I mean we take our role really seriously I think it's my job and an hour job to protect everyone who uses Facebook and all the information that they share with us it's it's our government's job to protect all of us and also to protect our freedoms and protect the economy right and companies and and I think that they did a bad job of balancing those things here right you know so frankly i think that the government blew it right i think that they blew it on communicating what they were basically the balance of what they were going for I here with this so um you know we at the morning after this started breaking they're like a bunch of people asked them what they thought it would look and the government's come it was oh don't worry basically we're not spying on any Americans right and it's like Oh wonderful yeah it's like that's really helpful to companies who are trying to serve people around the world and they're really going to inspire confidence in American Internet companies it's like thanks for going out there and being really clear about what you're doing so I think that that was really bad right and we've been pushing just to get more transparency on this and and I actually think we've made a big difference right even we haven't the big question you that you'd get from all the coverage is you know what's the volume of the total number of requests that are going on is it is it closer to a thousand requests that the the government is making of us or is it closer to a hundred million right and I mean from the coverage and from what the government has said you would not know the difference right but um we worked really hard with the government behind the scenes to get it to the point where we could release the aggregate number of requests and it's it was around 9,000 in the last in the last half a year and you know is does that number tell us everything that we want no and you know that's why when when the conversations kind of got to the point where we weren't going to make further progress we just had to sue them so we could reveal you know is it 1000 or 2000 or 3000 or 4000 or 8000 of the nine thousand requests but the reality is because of the the transparency that that we for you know now people can know and I think they deserve to know that the number of requests that the government is making is closer to 1,000 red it's it's 9,000 or less in the last six months and definitely not you know 10 million or a hundred million or not a draft with regard to crabbing data yeah new truck so you know I mean we're not at the end of this I am I wish that the government would be kind of more proactive about communicating we we aren't site that we had to sue in order to get this but we feel like people deserve to know this and we just take this really seriously
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