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hello and welcome you're listening to cnet UK podcast mrs. episode 410 for friday the fourteenth in november 2014 ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space european space pods have landed a robot on a comet hurtling the blackness of space millions of miles away and as if that isn't exciting enough Microsoft has lost his first non nokia phone giffgaff gone 4g and iron man has switched sides I'm rich Trent ohmic joining me in a high-tech learning studio this week is Luke Milky Way hello space sounds interesting it doesn't sound as Iron Man switching sides yeah exactly what we'll talk more about a second and also joining us is Andy worm oil haha very good as always we are filming the podcast so at c3 heavenly bodies you can see this hand all our videos on cnet or youtube.com slash seen it without let's start with weak knees can start off by talking about wallet-friendly network gift gap yes wish I had some some cool news is now doing 4G and which is one of the I think one of the only UK networks that isn't offering 4g the moment that's all yeah this we use first and then vodafone yeah and a three it's got it is no to join the union and now giffgaff is here and actually he's got some good deals as you'd expect this giffgaff already is very cheap it's an mvno which means it's actually using a different networks infrastructure llevo tues that's right it's technically owned by 02 but it's kind of done as an offshoot so it's back to keep the cost down to keep costs down as it is so for only 12 pounds a month you get 500 minutes of calls unlimited text and a gigabyte of 4G data of course you are going to want more data it doesn't offer an unlimited package but for 18 pounds you can get five gig of data a five gig is a lot and it's kind of an air she going to get to unlimited I mean I am a pretty heavy user and I don't tend to use more than about three in a moment well so I've got a lot I'm always like this cuz I'm on giffgaff and so that I mean it's always been a great deal for me I mean they actually do cell phones out but if you if you buy if you haven't owned a phone already yeah and you can see a gift sack giffgaff sim in there I have unlimited 3g data for 12 pounds which is fantastic I've been having that for years on a few years you know I've never really had any problems with it I've always been really happy yeah so yeah yeah like you don't use gift after you know no okay what do you feel about the advantage let me ask you about the advantage of buying the phone outright and popping in a giffgaff sim or from like three like a similar only plan is up it's not better cheaper another sounds right that's all right speaking of buying a new phone well speaking about on your phone if you do want anything you want it for cheap microsoft has the first microsoft phone now the ink has dried on Microsoft buyout of Nokia's so this is a nokia lumia phone but the naki name is no longer there so this is the Microsoft Lumia 535 so that so that's the official name that they shuttered on it's just a Microsoft Lumia so thankfully it's not Microsoft devices which is kind of how it was playing itself a little bit before this phone which is asking me a mouthful a Microsoft devices Leumi no no no you actually tried to 75 350 yeah I so I went hands-on with this phone it's nice it's kind of fun it's it's exactly where they expect from thee from if it was a Nokia Lumia that they haven't done anything different its own people right just but all the same people all the same everything else it's just but only the branding is different yeah it's nice you know it's 5 inches so it's fairly big but it's it's fairly slim it's got some colorful interchangeable cases which nakia always well before and got my new windows phone 8.1 software only thing is it doesn't have 4g so you want to get your cheap giffgaff sim it's not going to is not going to function properly with the fiber there are I mean I've just got a nokia 1320 which is yeah he finds that sets that's but yeah i'm trying i like that the 535 will be very cheap it's going to be about 109 euros so about the 70 quid mark so that is very so you know forgivable that you don't have 4g because as well if you want a phone it's that cheap and you probably don't want to pay extra for 4G so you'd be happy I'm just going for as you say the unlimited 3g 12 pounds deal rather than page 18 for a lot of 4G data so like I know everyone would agree I was concern oh um trem tram in the comment says i'm not sure why someone would consider this phone over the Moto G even compared to the 2013 edition unless they really didn't want android people don't ya salacious puck meanwhile says that's amazing specs for a $150 Phone and Windows Phone and Windows Phone sorry is actually bearable on low-end hardware unlike Android actually bearable they should know they should put that on the phones emboss I have something to say about that over here as i'm sure you your long-term listeners may be where are you saying that it's actually not there yes possibly about no I'm final minutes phone I think it's more than bearable I think if it does get mean that's for more than bearable yeah one and a half stars and that's I mean that's the whole point of firm of Windows Phone isn't it that it is designed to be to work with hardware so that you can have a really cheap phone and you still get the exact same software experience as you get with with any you know any other phone yeah exactly if I have anything it's it's almost better on the low end because it doesn't take as much to run so this phone is on the ghoul core processor but it's still really really Swift if anything you get less value from Windows Phone at the high end when you're paying 500 pounds for a flagship nokia phone but you're getting the exact same experience like things like camera and screen quality increases but the software and and how you navigate that software doesn't differ at all I agree with you absolutely Andy those expensive windows phones are a ripoff um what does an actual branding decision then what do we think about the the idea of change or form taro Bors what I think I think it's all bull who wants someone who thinks is gumming short not here wasn't cool but Microsoft is your way cool well the thing is you know even if you're going to give nokia any kind of cool points Microsoft has where your cool points yeah than that so whatever you say think about nokia microsoft is worse like yeah and of course especially for us in europe work naki obviously a european company yeah in brand was hugely famous and sort of beloved yeah you know if like famous house of all the fashions for your 3210 exactly everyone's everyone's snake it was everyone's first phone everyone has a drawer at home with one of those old nokia charges in it somewhere and so there's a lot of goodwill behind the name so yeah I'm sad that it's gone hmm I mean Microsoft is a more famous name maybe makes more sense in the US well absolutely I mean what it's a woulda bucks more coincidental well t feel good says claim says i don't understand the logic why ditch such a well-known brand when it's known for creating decent hardware microsoft not so much if only nokia chosen android and not Windows Phone their story would be a whole lot different um I would take issue with that as we have discussed previously i'm not sure that Nokia's fate would have been different if it had gone for Android because if you look at the companies that are making android vines today they're great phones but it's not really working out especially well for the companies that make them so even Samsung which is by far the company that's done the best out of Android and is now really struggling because it just finds get cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and it's sort of its what what industry onlooker crystal ball gazer types like to call a race to the bottom hmm so that's a really good point I'd like to hear you elaborate on that even further on video is there some some way that could happen no no but you could try I don't think it'll work but you could try searching cnet adventures in tech nokia android in google again i don't think it'll work but you could try but a visiting possibility a video about nokia and android might pop like a like a North no point in my testimony small it's like life you know life in here one in ten yeah alright what else is going on um is it a good phone for Microsoft them is it a good phone for Microsoft well let's hear what the people have to say yeah King WR says it would have made more sense to choose a flagship phone to switch to the Microsoft branding and to do it with some fanfare I just can't figure out how Microsoft continues to be so inept at branding themselves ouch they have all the money in the world why can't they get good marketing talent or advice harsh words i disagree i don't think it makes any sense to go in all guns blazing with a big flagship why hundy enemy parade well it was a great with it was a great faculty quote from you know a great man the classic film faculty uh you know if you want to take over the world you don't go and blow up the White House Independence Day style you sneak in through the back door you know it's about it's about it's about going slowly and getting people sort of used to it on the cheap red which is 0 pitch is in the area that Nokia does incredibly well it click about the ashes and stuff in install Asian markets hmm that's what it's doing it is nice words for lies late 90s sci-fi horror comedy maybe if anybody is a good film the only Elijah Wood played a blinder perfect who maybe if anything Microsoft should be making less of his phones over there to be absolutely no posters and there should be one in carphone warehouse or something on a shelf and it's also what what's that colorful fight over there they quickly like pull pull the curtain over it that's nothing don't you worry about that well a lot of people would argue that is what they're already doing what Nokia don't know but have you seen the Samsung s5 no well that's this is exciting stuff but I think the big news the week has to be the fact we've landed a washing machine on a comet or something Andy what's the news come at me bro well that sir is exactly it's you have said it we have put a washing machine on a comment no it's the rosetta mission yeah and now this was this has been in 10 years in the making as it were we're ten years ago we fired out a probe into space and it's been it's been using planets gravitation 22 not whiplash whistling shuttle a slingshot thank you around to gain speed into action my bursting lot with whiplash yeah we finally found a way to to catch up with a comet and it's actually landed on a comet we have we have landed something on a comment we have landed something on a comet in a meeting that one more time yeah we humans have landed something on a comet it's daddy's incredible a comment is traveling four times the speed of a speeding bullet apparently and they've they've Grable standing he nearly went wrong didn't it had some harpoon whom problems and sort of bounced into abandoned while they think might be a crater so it may be in slightly the wrong position we were almost writing its orbit chew area I'd already get on so we have old for applause all bit so this is that this the thing yes so it semi was supposed to like fire a harpoon and real itself in but some excite scientists there it's supposed to really something but now they've they've kind of landed and harpoons didn't fire but they don't fly the harpoons now in case they ping themselves also spake you're just sitting there waiting on the whale he's waiting for that space whale I mean just I mean we've had a couple of good comments about this the kind of sum up how how big that an achievement this is yes we have um ldi 17 I do 17 it tells not matter says it was following a hell of a complicated and many years long path with several planetary gravity assist flybys just to avoid having to carry an impractical amount of fuel imagine doing the orbital calculations for all that and making sure you got it right well and on top of that they have to calculate a trajectory for dropping filler village that's a robot like like filet o fish but it's actually filet o space they couldn't afford to put any propulsion or guidance on that so they have to let it loose at just the right speed and direction yeah in just the right time to that seven hours later it will fall onto the rubber ducky at just the right point and hopefully not too fast otherwise it will bounce off again and be lost in space lost in space we should point out is that the comet is rubber duck shaped which is why it stays rubber ducky yeah yeah it's incredible I mean it's a fantastic example I'm it is European to mention so Austrians built the anchor the fins provided the memory for the command sister who built the harpoons it's designed by the hungarian a sturdy engineering the Germans produced the flywheel the Italians provided the solar panels the Irish made computer process a good good work out of the Irish Poland come up with a sense the Dutch help with a descent and the switch produced panoramic camera with cameras and a spectrometer as written came up with blankets apparently boys also instruments to study I stopped trying to come across and also some of the work was done by people who are studying part-time at the Open University okay give yourselves a big hand open university and space travelers everybody but we not like some of us could Spacey everybody but you're not you're not so keen on space travel are you um I've kind of had my mind changed a little bit on the sorts of space exploration in theory i think i've talked about on podcast again so this might be sort of like boring and repetitive fury Felicity's I'm sorry it was a it was a the podcaster yeah yeah yeah cuz it was a column I cause Caitlin Moran she won't think about it and it was like if we can explore space all we want but we're not gonna find anything as good as Earth hmm I was like yeah actually like Earth isn't like I feel like people sort of sci-fi fans people geeky people who can't look out the stairs ton of any sort pride in earth but this brilliant it's got like it's got like polar bears and waterfalls it's such a good planet okay it's like you know maybe we should you know just enjoy this one yeah look inwards maybe well that's fair enough but I mean you can't argue that obviously that space travel is a waste of time and money I mean things working out there certainly get LEDs in edit LEDs in medical therapy we're just about heart-to-heart power assisting device talk about artificial limbs scratch resistant lenses space blankets as every mouth and runner will be thankful that blanket aircraft another blanket lobby got in touch with you this vodka big blanket winter's coming you'll be thankful for the researchers going to these blockages episode we'll all just be wearing a big blanket yeah you'll be shipping a home duvet I wore my black regular radial tires and firefighting equipment temper foam enrich baby food portable cordless vacuums freeze-drying water purification solar cells are all kinds of software stuff improved mine safety food safety all kinds of West it's incredible actually I'd say the the sort of stuff we do in the comment comment is really cool because it isn't sort of about about trying to abandon earth or anything it's about finding information about the the history of the universe that could be of practical use to us in the present exactly the origins of life on Earth and Vista achievement I saw him on Twitter on a car remember who did it so I'm afraid I can't credit them but they said it was along the lines of like 10 years ago hmm we shot something at a moving target and moving four times the speed of a speeding bullet and we hit it with bullseye accuracy yeah Oh five hundred million advanced kilometers away it's like it that is mind-blowing shesh that we can do that yeah like it sits safely assume i like how we're all using this we in the same way that we use like yeah its humanity humanity has done this we have to we have to rally around it well i don't think i have been any help I mean unless maybe some taxes i paid helped but it to be honest i think probably in some way I'm sure indirectly I've been more of a hindrance it wasn't a date or anything was it they didn't moral support murrells bubble is an incredible achievement and we're very proud to welcome to yeah he was involved coming back down to earth with a bump now speaking of amazing achievement hearing me more amazing things coming from the samsung ray hey Sam Samsung has a whole load of new things from its developer conference in San Francisco and that is in America UK listeners so they have him have a few he had a few things they have something called the sim band or Sinbad the sailor as I Amanda sighs I'm and the sailors like to call it the flow the gear VR and project beyond I'm going to tell you a little bit more about the in depth so actually our sim bantha well tell you about Sinbad yes it's in band is it looks very much like the gear rest it's like a wearable watch of the big curved screen but this is really focused on health it's got a lot more health trackers to to check like blood flow EKG body temperature skin temperature like kind of thing like actually useful information rather than just being a terrible pedometer which is what nearly all health tracking things do this actually potentially has some medical use because it also stores this information on to Samsung is working on like a cloud storage for health information that can be shared with like NHS and with doctors and things so as particularly important if you're am sort of having that your heart rate or blood pressure and a constant monitoring by your doctor is if I want to go into the the doctor surgery every week and wasting their time in having your object your body checked over and stuff this can be constantly monitoring it and so your doctor can just be alerted if he sees anything going wrong if he says okay this is going bad your heart rate constantly to high when you check you out but it may well be that takes 8-10 weeks pass and you don't need to go in and waste the time that's got your daughter can text you and be like calm down yeah I'll sit down comet this hole connect connected health is it's going to be it's going to be a very big deal it is it really cool I mean obviously the big question though is this at this is early days this kind of stuff from the big question is accuracy of these are consumer products they're not medical grade products and one of the things kind of we were talking earlier about Norton's podcast but the news that the NHS considering a kite mark for health apps yeah so it's obviously kind of moving towards this idea of kind of these these equipment these had these apps these these wearables becoming actually kind of medical-grade to actually be able to connect you and your hair giver or your health yeah a professional to like that will make a difference I think it's fantastic your chili exciting well quite a lot of them are more for is for tracking a condition rather than diagnosing it so it's not that some of them aren't accurate enough to really say here's what you have but they can monitor its progress in and be able to pick up on signs they should be checked out further by and by dr. we saw that actually got a real big body of data is yeah we saw that I was serving body yeah we covered from the UK trade investment thing last year we saw there was an app that you can track potential skin cancer blemishes on your skin you can take photos of it you can't say for certain whether or not oh that blemish on this one day is to cancerous but it can track its progress and if the app can register that is getting worse or changing size and shape or color it can then alert that and tell you you should go and get this checked out now okay so powerful stuff I feel useful alright so what else have we seen what's what's flow tell us a bit about flow Luke you like miss winters what about flying my eyes I should have risotto flow is like Samsung's answer to Apple's continuity basically so it's a sort of way of moving programs and processes between devices we don't know a whole lot more than that at the moment so apples handoff thing that allows you to sort of text and make calls from your computer via your iPhone kind of thing yeah yeah that's right um but okay well we'll find that bit more about this as fun guys I think that in you the other thing about it though is that sort of iphone getting in trouble for saying this but Apple is more the kind of company where you tend to sort of by all of the things okay so met that okay I can see the the comments lighting up already yeah he sounds just like the little switches go okay but let let's let him complete the thought commenters little it's not going to get any better but the fools not gonna it's better but I mean like who owns all the Samsung stuff you know those chase so you buy you'd bite you might buy an imac and then you might buy an iphone but no one goes out and goes where I'm gonna get a samsung laptop and I'm gonna get a samsung there well I think certainly like many men like fewer people do enough so then I think like flowers maybe young when you think of the ecosystem around some song you think of Android rather than thinking smell that's the thing you you were definitely by if you view you definitely buy an android phone and an Android tablet we wouldn't it early by Samsung for both which is obviously Apple is the only company that does iOS that's why you would have the same idea you would have the same operating system across things because other than alex has no choice yeah exactly you've more apps for iPhone I don't to buy them again for an Android tablet so that's why you'll buy the same and same goes for but again you'd have an HTC phone maybe in a samsung tablet or I the other thing is that Samsung phones and samsung laptops are so different well Apple that apple really is one of the only tech companies and makes different categories of devices that all sort of have Rizzuto together Yale anyway yeah in terms of yeah that's good well we'll be keeping an eye on all this stuff as well one of things I thought was interesting was the gear VR device this is Samsung's virtual reality headset you put it on and you can be and you know in a game or oh yeah widget alee I think I seems to because I the other week i was at web summit event which is big kind of tech conference in dublin and one of the events that i went to was I saw her ass back kind of keynote presentation by the founder of oculus who make the oculus rift headset which is kind of the headset that that has kicked off interest in virtual reality again and one of the things they said is that one of the things they're worried about is that these big rivals like Sony like Samsung are going to come in and try and make these these kind of products to kind of capture this virtual reality interest around and he's a bit worried that he says he's worried that they're going to come in too early and they're gonna have a product isn't ready that hasn't solved the problems of like motion sickness or whatever and that might lead to because he was buying the Sony device let's project Morpheus or buying the Samsung gear VR and then getting sick and then going all virtual reality doesn't work so it's kind of interesting to see where these guys are up to and and whether they are going to rush this product out to kind of capture this psycho also it's an oculus is basically saying you're ruining it mmm cuz oculus are taking their sweet time putting out a device they haven't been that many thing that yeah you're making it yeah and Sam so much ism term yes to it be mean to call Samsung's rushed when it means that I had to go in it and we had a demo where am it's a camera underneath a helicopter going over like a glacier and I'm wearing and looking around and as the helicopter is going over I'm looking around like a look up and I can see the helicopter and I can look all as I'm moving around its seamlessly was really really good simulates being tied to the under similar exactly similar to terror of simulate the white bars gripping on helical but the gear VR is basically it's just a shell for a galaxy note you have to have it's not it's not doesn't have its own screen projection so if you put your phone inside basically this this holder and yeah it's the the unit itself has all the sensors and got controls on it so it's you know it's more than just a shell of plastic on your face I mean rush rushing into a market with something cheap mmm sort of Samsung's whole thing no they're really d'etre yeah exactly you know it's like if I was a 1920s detective yeah and it was a crime scene yeah and the crime was someone had rushed into a market with a the cheaper cheaper version of a successful product yes I'd be like get down to the Samsung club should we call up the usual suspects no need no need the same problem we've got with them with the MVR and stuff like this it seemed like we had with 3d there's not enough content that you capture you might have to do with it we've seen demos of Armani oculus rift I'm on I'm on a roller coaster great I said you have a quick demo and that's it yeah but what a project beyond is that samsung also discussed at San Francisco is a X camera that can film in 360 degrees okay the idea being that you can actually take this out and you can go and wander through any other grand canyon and that's in the United States English listeners yeah and then film this stuff meant example they're bigger yeah you can eat cucumber yes then you've got something to actually theoretically then should watch back using the VR headset and you can actually look around as you would have done when you were walking there and holiday if there's a game a consumer product actually well it's still early days but you can find out more about all this these new pieces of kit on cnet com look out for that also speaking of Samsung yes Samsung has been doing some sneaky little sliding into the Avengers 2 trailer safely yeah Phil which you you wrote about today that's true so there's a new extended trailer for the age of Ultron which is the second Avengers movie featuring Iron Man Thor Black Widow Hawkeye and ya gotta say how he seamlessly I passed that on to you because I have no idea about no fair enough that was good no one would have noticed if you hadn't just drawn attention to its jay way yeah what's worse is what something about this about this is that it is sort of Samsung sponson obviously Samsung's done a big product placement deal I imagine there's a lot of money change hands because Black Widow is she's in shield headquarters wherever and she's looking at some stuff on a tablet and yep it's a samsung tablet and also later on there's a fight in a samsung shop so I'm petite looking forward to seeing if the Samsung shop gets smashed up yoki oral trends but then in a durable phone screens you scratch resistant absolutely look I will pick one up it'll be his only line in the film he'd be like my goodness this hasn't been scratched at all because like everyone will be like quiet Oh Hulk's doing something he'll he's doing something but what is interesting about this as well as the Iron Man has switched sides his switch loyalties going a supervillain no he's switching loyalties when it comes to mobile phones because in there in the early iron man movie star you know Julia Iron Man a Tony Stark in fact he carried an LG phone oh now he's am so now we're such dorks yeah hey still they still sticking with android though so he didn't want to lose on his apps yeah oh yeah obviously it's important to the Android ecosystem is a google boy quite obviously okay well moving on to more film things yeah hang on before we before you at your point to make about it actually you have something Satan about plots to take over the world yeah so Sean um Thanos and see when we were talking earlier I want to just get this out into the public space so super villains in comics and coming book movies whatever they might try something an evil scheme you're sort of trying to get an object yeah I think you were telling me that in the Avengers the Avenger bus is coming do-do-do-do-do it's it's some kind of glove I think most I think they're trying to get the tesseract and then it's something to do with the Infinity Gauntlet I envisioned it has such a great banquettes I Thanos we see in the end of the First Avenger bus is coming moving yeah that he's got a big are they made of sorts of space whales yep robot space wells and like robot aliens on space bicycles yeah which is which is a really powerful army space hairdresser and his mate is a rogue yeah yeah yeah I'm kind of wondering yeah should Thanos be thinking I need to get a glove that makes me even stronger because he's really strong here's or glad to get Brooke exactly or should he be directing mmm forces he does have in a more efficient way okay and and I would draw a parallel to it like the superheroes and always win hmm they don't find a glove yeah that makes them win yeah spider-man doesn't get new shoes or like Thor isn't like our this this cardigan makes me more powerful so now I win easily cardigan of us go the car to get the cut cut get now come in a run base it's already million um yeah it's got again he has got there it is very side mirrors there in that so much they are Scotty so yeah I wonder if maybe super villain should stop trying to find thing that makes them stronger and just try and maybe sort of like grow as people or just come up with a better plan if you've got a space whale yes don't be like I'll send it to New York where Thor and Iron Man the whole car send it I don't know blow up the Sun let's just leave you like super villains they don't need super weapons they need efficiency experts basically they to channel the resource they need a consultant like me yes that's chase I have to hit me up on Twitter super villains also there is a big film opening quickly this this weekend in UK cinemas which were very excited about yes I'm gonna have a straight back to you the Gaza it's something about an elite combat let's shoot it so no we may have reached peak cumberbatch lately but this is quite exciting it's erm it's film about Alan Turing and the Bletchley Park code breakers is called the imitation game sat this week and I saw it recently it's a it's a good performance for Cumberbatch it's an interesting film even if you do know the store expect tragic story of Alan Turing sadly and even if you do another story it's got us quite some interesting context an extra details and it kind of ties in the story with some interesting contemporary concerns about surveillance and and sort of and you know intelligence and how intelligence is used and reasons for going to war and all this kind of thing so it seems like velvet takes a few historical liberties but it's it's a good starting point if you don't with that too familiar with the story then i would recommend it it's worth worth seeing your smashing sea cucumber patch doing a spain you certainly do ok well as right what we're gonna do now is gonna move straight on to the quiz exciting who's going to go ahead ribs let's do it to move on okay so yes it's quiz time the leaderboard currently stands at Jason is on five Luke is on five and ears on 40 I need your Swansea if Andy's come back this weapons when you go off gallivanting taking photos of stuff no this is what happens when you do a quiz entirely about superhero films well then what about you'll enjoy this week's quiz it's all about superior films next night everybody MIT's space and other things and ugly space question one how many years is a Spock have no I'm only kidding that's that's that's one of the questions how many left it right its final frontier oh that was a real question all right points sorry real question number one how many tales does comet have Luke how many tales come home to that's the right answer Joe what they're made of one's made a fire and ones made of ice I glass enough ones a dust trail what is a plasma trail but that sir yeah yeah yeah dust is just ice in space absolutely okay then questions sea lions good science well done everybody question 2 what is a calm its perihelion and the oil its biggest embarrassment is close one way that is not the Quran salute during a show yeah sure okay just buzzing in for formality um was using a para perihelion Harry helium yeah I'm saying that correctly science experts is it it is it it's the shape of its orbit that's all that's pretty close it's very it is involved the orbit I can't give you the point but it's very personal but is actually the closest point in a comet's orbit to the Sun but you were on the right lines you're on the right jeck turi you might say I've got a pretty good instinct for comments I think you think you have yeah and a final question Andy its all to play for here question 3 halley's comet is visible from Earth roughly every 75 years legend has it those sightings coincide with momentous events in human history name one event in human history that's been linked to a sighting of Halley's Comet does anyone know you're gonna buzz in Andy question yep right there I am going to say the Queen's coronation Queen's coronation is not linked Halley's Comet I'm afraid nightbat night yeah not bad leaking out go should have googled it while he wasn't saying oh yeah cause I'm gonna have a go yeah um well if I only knew I'm sure we sure it's been there in my lifetime it has a so so it's like let's slice quite a 2000 so 75 years what's that starts egg-mobile ah is not the correct answer I'm afraid you could have had some things like the Battle of Hastings is one famous one which mark our producer was no worse for you nobody was looking well i was i was looking at but he started doing it after i had already buzzed in mark wasn't at the battle of it actually if anyone was was going to actually you've been out the battle of hastings would have been mad well oh yeah and so the winner is this week it's luke well done congratulations leak do you have to sign break of it ok how many ways i'll go i'll give you the time i care not to land on comet 67p the Rosetta probe had to match speed with the comet and how fast is comet 67p hurtling through space in miles per hour in what so miles per hour oh I only nine kilometers um hang on let me just carry the one a 67 million that's interesting guess yeah um okay i'm already lost trailer the correct answer is 40,000 miles per hour so that wait no no lies give me give me give me a second to think okay go on and they have a nice forget it forty thousands o is the correct yeah only that was worth something but i get a point back I don't think you do that if I leave this podcast with my pride intact take that doubter I think that ship has sailed that that rocket ship does that like hanging back to pick up critical supplies rich and I boarded it and I am off to can't come back to pick a LAN device glory I think I fuel to make one exit this quiz is degenerating into intuitive burning up in the atmosphere it's decaying orbit anyway so why don't we want to hear what you guys been saying in this week's feedback yes feedback time yes feedback time Phillip Thompson says which do you think is better out of the following okay so I want you guys quick VAR responses on this sega megadrive oz net mmm Mega Drive sonic or Mario Sonic mmm pac-man or miss pac-man flu I'm not a big game road I don't this come out put my man specially space invaders or asteroids oh ok I have an opinion on this one space invaders but that's because I'm in my commodore 64 when am I tape operated Commodore 64 for our younger viewers and this is that we went UA a game while you waited for the game to load off the tape you played another game in the meantime you got two games so I was waiting for Ghostbusters to load I'd play space invaders are you older than time itself I am I certainly is why I was born when the last time halley's comet came and doing me yeah there you go Craig Higgins says what do you think about the latest elite dangerous game that's our elite dangerous yeah we actually put this to Nick who is our resident sort of spacefaring strategy real-time excitement game person and Nick said and I haven't played it but it looks spectacularly ambitious and realistic it's very interesting that such a hardcore game sad such Essex has has had such success in crowdfunding and I'd love to play it with oculus looking around your pit in 3d would be amazing look around a cockpit in 3d would be amazing that is very very cheap yeah what else is going on Martin Leo David Robertson says yeah very simple question who will be the judge of that Martin yeah do you believe that the very limited hardware of the new next-gen consoles will hold back the development of better more involved games as the hardware wouldn't be able to handle it and you I think no I don't particularly agree with the statement that they are already limited hardware really well no quite potent rabigh several point they were why do you think that Martin Leo DVD is that I think it's because and it's a fair enough observation is because this is really the first console generation I think we're there hasn't been a massive visual obvious visual improvement over the previous generate but I don't think this is really sort of Sony and Microsoft being limited I think it's just they sort of cobbled together the best hardware that they could not the time together well they're just like yeah this is like this is this is like posh hard way and so it's what they do every sort of console generation so you know throw it together girl it was good at the time in seven years already yeah they take whatever they sort of think they can afford to put in a little box in your living room I suppose it just unexcited it feels like you have to future-proof consoles go they do hang around for a lot longer than yeah they do they do but on the other hand developers um if you look at it like consoles like the xbox 360 if you look at the games when that launched compared to the games at the end of its life span yeah there's sort of difference in in gameplay and graphics and everything was vast so if you give developers time to get to grips with the hardware then and we'll probably see there the actual consoles iterate as well I mean they will probably be upgrades in the meantime film maybe maybe okay all right Phillip Thompson yes um who asked there's no question from earlier says do you have any idea on if or when 4G might be coming to virgin mobile it seems strange I don't offer it yet as they are an MVNO using EE / oranges and that's right mvno is what we're talking about with gift Kathy yeah I said that I think they're wonderful s I was wrong obviously virgin mobile are yet to announce any 4g so yeah we spoke to the end of end of October I think and then they said they have no no plans but yeah actually I was fishing in them forums and found them someone with that kind of official forum tag said they have no news on 4G as of late October as always knocked over but we will keep you posted just like with you with giffgaff so keep your eyes peeled lovely aren't we like that mark Alvarez says when is Android L coming to the nexus 4 good question when is it we have some good news on that it's actually available from now really so if you do have a nexus 4 or nexus 5 or a link Nexus 7 as well tablet you head into settings and check for your software updates you should find some lollipop goodness although they sort of tend to go in way tend to go in waves and stuff done it might if it's not a panic yeah hopefully I'll be very soon yeah but hopefully by the time you hear this because we're recording it now so fingers crossed the time you hear or gotta get out of this in the exactly yeah we reported a couple days ago so but I tell you here it will be now and then Oh God anyway this no well it says what advances are happening with google glasses are they more discreet etc something else to look for during exam times yeah it's come quiet I've only since they went on sale in the UK mmm yes yeah has been quiet it was a big thing and one was super excited and they had all those cool videos of habit is what Google glass is going to do and it was big deal and went to tail of us and then they have their big lunch in the UK and nothing else has really happened we've not heard anything about new software updates or new versions probably because Google is spending so much time working on new Android and Android wear which Android wear is kind of taking a lot of functionality that we're hoping to have with Google glass and putting into the watch so maybe we'll sometimes now L is out there we might see some updates to you well that's the last I mean to be fair you can you can get some designer frames has been a few different frames sir so you can look a little bit more discreetly look a bit more like actual classes but you do still look a bit like a nerd really on it yes it's a big one for size to stuff to the side of them this blue or orange like you can't disguise that who some nice frames no and mr. mantis messy house guests sorry five mangled that pronunciation I sincerely apologize pretty good I like that well I mean it was again if it was if it was correct it was good um says the new imac game changer or just a fancy ripoff well how much is it before we discuss with a triple dance at 2,000 pounds um it's it's neither of those things I'm afraid it's not it no it's not it's not a rip off because it's a 5k screen 5k and it's got us a really powerful tech and then but it's not really a game change and we've already got very high resolution like monitors that you can buy so if you really into graphics and photography and designers definitely need high resolution if you want to go and get that but it's not can afford it and you want the fanciest desks yeah it does a good job but it's expensive it's it's like it's just fine it's not other things and on that modest note the feedback is concluded that is the end en oh well thanks very much for the feedback everybody thanks for your questions keep coming keep the feedback coming by emailing us on you email address cnet you play podcast at CBS i.com which you can see the bottom of the screen there that's so on turn on down below thank you Andy thank you rich Matthew thank you leap thank you thanks to a producer mark here you will never see who is all the time right we're off to start working on next week's podcast because we've committed to plan it ahead ah see you next week