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CNET UK Podcast - How the Samsung Galaxy Note got its pen - Ep. 412

2014-11-27
hello and welcome you're listening to the scene at UK podcast this episode 412 for friday the 28 min of ember 2014 Samsung Galaxy Notes nearly came with an S toothpick the Jurassic world trailer is here and BTW is shopping for a mobile network but when it's flush out on ee or reunite with 0 2 i'm rich trinoma joining me on a high tech on the studio this week is jason jenkins hell no it's just me it is it is it good to have you back it's very nice to be here the Mayas phones have changed they saw different it's all go it's yeah it's all it's all particularly high tech you don't cheat eater cut your head in the quiz like this week unfortunately well we all know the same parts if I would I be win or lose well that's trick as always we are filling the podcast so you can see all this and our videos on see it or youtube.com slash seen it but for now let's start with the knees but it looks like we're about to start another round of my favorite game okay who owns what network right alright so BTW is on the lookout for a mobile network has confirmed that it's in talks to buy 02 there are also reports of BT's been approached by EE shareholders to buy that company and the news comes a few days after the boss of one of the owners of EE orange that guy said that the current ownership situation isn't for the long term though he is French they probably said it with a French accent okay but you're not sent so it looks like two of the big names are up for sale with BT a possible buyer right we think of this well i mean BTW obviously wants to get back into the mobile game they they have everything else so not they've got broadband they've got landlines they've got TV so if they get mobile as well then there are quad play player and then they have a whole convergent convergent offering is what they call in the industrial and i was pretty special right it contained all the necessary buzzwords it's making a pig you were using exactly exactly yeah so they kind of want to round out what their kind of their telecom strategy i guess and mobile net we could do yeah well I'm beer BTW used to have a mobile phone network back in the day bt cellnet which it's sold to what became 02 and Telefonica resentment which is a massive spanish company and that's kind of indicate that it's sort of bad enough i think of yeah I've 02 which is sort of doing okay but not not growing as much as it wants to so um I know maybe I suppose a big danger here is that maybe we end up with everything kind of concentrated in a very small number of owners like it is in the US so that means high prices ultimately for everyone the kind of fewer owners the less competition there is so there are less incentive there is to lower prices otherwise I don't know how much will notice absolutely yeah i mean it is quite competitive market new UK isn't it so we asked some of our readers and Mark Alexander says BTW schools just put not point 5 stars out of possible 10 on trustpilot making one most despised companies in the UK let's hope 02 escapes don't see la king david charles Struve says if owed to moves back under the t's umbrella I'm moving out is not a not keen on the idea Ryan plant says please don't buy 02 BTW will ruin the reputation of the company and will increase prices and tony gallant says by E and make it less crap please so there you go it's not not a lot of massive voter confidence for VT her behavior but you know they're all rubbish really on them they are just as bad as each other really in many ways hmm okay what else has been going on well Cena has an exclusive interview and career with taemin row which i'm ninety-nine percent sure is not how you say is that okay but anyway he's the samsung vice president for product strategy and innovation and he's been talking about how the company came up with the notes okay the Galaxy Notes there the big one the massive one with the stylus phablet the phablet the very first phablet hmm he was saying that the prototype looked more like a journal and it was wider but can you imagine a wider Samson really so obviously that was one of the prototypes they came up with an EU members that there was a heated discussion regarding the first version all about the pen so should the pen be embedded inside the device or should it be separate originally they had a proper pain like a normal pen size again right he held up to Jessica dual-core who was the one who interview this chap and they obviously there's no way putting out inside the phone so they were thinking what do we do with it yeah they had an idea of magnet's magnetic was one idea also another idea is to kind of attach the pen to the cover somehow and not in the device so and then another idea was to go to complete the opposite way and to have have a miniature style pen so it's more like a toothpick okay as Tyler's right and they took about a year to figure out how to wear the whole thing work and they had to miniaturize some elements and the hard ones start to make room for the pen that goes inside the note if you go music or there's a little oh it goes inside yeah and so that's a factor all that in so do people actually use the stylus is the question well yeah I mean what work absolutely yeah i mean its cards bit of a gamble real isn't it because we hadn't seen at us or tablet that small or iphone that big before but Sir and the Pens bit different so when we asked the public and Maria said TJ Bennett says I have a note and never use the pen except for a couple of things in all honestly though I think I would definitely use it more if the pen was on the left side and not the right so after a year of working out there hey they haven't been in the right place for everybody if you could turn it upside down possibly yeah that's Juliette something as rubbish Harold Mansfield says I use it at least once a day all your tech devices how many of them do you use one hundred percent of everything they do my TV is at least 20 apps on it that i never use it she was very often stop me from behind the TV zanya Gonzalez says I use mine all the time I like drawing and so does might also and on a similar note Alexander says my aunt who's in her late 60's use it to slowly send text messages hi the pillow we see how has uses fur fur at for lots of people so that's like it's a proper swiss army knife product is need a sort of everything and the point of is they put every single feature you they think you must be one who and I person find that a nightmare like Irish awful overwhelming horrible thing but it's got lots of fans and they've sold many many of them so it's that's the thing isn't it it's not everyone has the same views and everything yeah well what else is we going well you remember Jurassic Park one yes and two yep and three not root not so much but yeah well number four is on its way next year and that trailer has just been released it's called Jurassic world yeah and the plot is set 22 years after the events of the first film where the concepts of a fully functioning dinosaur theme park has been fully realized and the idea is is I've been open and everyone's totally over it already okay yeah dinosaurs so what yeah and then of course the screaming starts yeah so what does everyone think of this trainer uh well i mean i don't know i wasn't sure if i wasn't particularly up aquino myself it's a we've had some readers talk about it was 0 1 87 says I like the idea of the intelligent dinosaur because what the movies about is they've kind of a they bred at their own kind of made up dinosaur instead of instead of the ones actually existed he says they're all made up well they're all they're all dinosaurs are kind of a knife on me they've made of what is here's a thigh bone we think it means it looks like this but it's quite a lot of imagination involved yes to not to kind of little the sides too much it was so yeah this is the thing that this these ones got lasers on the head or something I don't know he say a funk flash says it just won't be the same without the computer programming nerd getting eaten I hope he's back for round two so ya know if we could look forward to some nerds getting and n double one says they could have went in a completely different direction with this one but they didn't I could be wrong but it seems to be a rehash of one of the older films and i agree with with NN double one there the trailer doesn't really have considering its 22 years later the trailer doesn't really seem to have anything that that could new compared to the the first films when there which were absolutely gobsmacking and jaw-dropping because they had no pioneering CGI but having said that the the director colin trevorrow i believe his name is he directed safety not guaranteed I loved on film it's great it right film yeah check that on netflix of yeah absolutely haven't seen that yeah definitely real treat so they go oh I thought look pretty scary actually yeah I but then I'm probably easily scared and you know if they're remaking the first three what's wrong with that really does joke it's kind of the same again hmm but III should thought this special effects look relatively ropey now because you know I'm yeah we'll see yeah it's just the trailer anyway speaking of scary things rich some there's a story about the post office which is a scary place for me anyway that's that's right yeah well the post office is now don't deal with Amazon so when you are all your stuff from Amazon if you if it's too big to go through your letterbox or you can't be at home to collect it or you need to send something else somewhere else maybe need to maybe you're at work and you wanna go get in your lunch break you can have it sent to the post office which is produce for which means that there are ten thousand five hundred post office branches where you carry amazon order sent to and that's on top of all the other news agents and amazon lockers at alluring train stations and that kind of thing shopping centers and other collect+ stores so you've got a lot more choices of places basically go and get your amazon order which is a pretty handy just in time for christmas as well and they came out the post office was saying the dish before this was announced maybe a few weeks ago and their financials that they are suffering because amazon had pulls a lot of their business right basically start up their own courier company so yeah also if I oração from amazon always gets delivered by amazon logistics which is literally just some guy in a car if you have three if you have three items arriving in one day get three different cars or i think right yeah it mean it must be they must be paying them next to nothing yeah it's like the least professional every operation I've ever seen having said that everything's turned up so what more do you want that's those two suppose they they probably use bit leverage I would imagine because I don't think they want to do this for some time yeah sure so I feel it was set on comments what have any better do this rages because you just get a note through the door saying go and pick up your parcel hmm but that's not from the post office yeah you've gotta go to home depot yeah which is although we think of it as the same business actually they're different different businesses have been for many years okay that's actually also is further away usually your local deco yeah take it for the post i was pretty good i mean you could always just go buy it from a shop I try to keep the high street hey heresy unbeliev oh I'm just as bad as everyone you know I wish I wasn't some addicted to Amazon but that's why everything for me cuz they're so easy and it's not very expensive mmm absolutely yeah yeah um well so what's gonna talking a villainous honest okay um that doesn't work at all but anyway a german inventor has made a real-life laser like the one a real-life later watch rather like the one in James Bond okay yep Patrick priebe but probably not how you say his name either i've just got lots of foreigners names that i can't say anyway this guy he runs a company called laser gadgets which custom make all kinds of craziness this particular one is a digital watch that shoots a bright blue laser out at the end don't go in your hand when you push a button and there's a lovely YouTube video of it popping balloons cutting through plastic and igniting matches it took in 50 hours to complete costume about two hundred dollars in parts and he warms that the beams capable of burning through your skin well and says that it's not exactly a toy not that I know handy for escaping from prison cells or other other tight corners I might possibly yeah if you want him if you want one you can ask him to make it for you okay come yeah he might do he might not it spends we gonna use it for if you're gonna use it for espionage then I think you're okay you're in the clear you have ye says you have to as always when handing lasers you have to wear a protective eyewear right so what did you always does yeah it's on the screen now actually is really really you can just get a sense from the YouTube video chat how bright that laser it that is pretty bad yeah he's firing at the Mummy's firing at a stick of a line of four matches and he's just put on the the his glasses on to the camera so you can see what he sees hmm and it's actually making it such burning the wall behind the matters when he can't quite hit it properly it looks super powerful isn't it's kind of cool there's god no i mean this so this is like the laser watching golden eye but call me back when some other James Bond films have had watches that have a mini printer a powerful magnet a lot TV screen a remote control for explosives or a grappling hook they all sound like things that Samsung's making the samsung galaxy print yeah samsung galaxy grand many print and it goes to get a cat yeah it delivers your instructions for the day that's exactly what it sounds like yeah I'd love to see that definitely come alright then well that's enough for the knees let's see what you get the cut you guys have been saying this week's feedback right let's see what you guys have been saying so Phillip Thompson heads our first question he says windows 10 is looking like it might be a really good OS what are your thoughts on it do you think this might be one of the last big releases of windows like some of the other tech media seem to be thinking so what do you think Windows 10 well well well well they say it seems pretty good they're bringing back the start button in a way that I improve of throws the one there which I just can't get I can't get my head round windows 8 really and it seems like to be honest it seems like classic Microsoft oh there's oh the other good thing is that this is one version of potentially good thing there's one version of windows for all the platform so the same for the phone same for a tablet same for computer hmm sounds like a good idea but I don't if it's going to work if it means that you know you can get one app and you works cause everything then potentially yeah potentially although like as Apple found that a problem really no that's true but you know anyway it sounds interesting be it does feel like classic Microsoft in that it is the perfect solution for like two years ago problem okay so by the time it comes out let's say is brilliant hmm and then it comes at is coming out next year i think is it i think i think anyway it's a couple of years really before most people would be able to really experience this that state i don't know what the computing markets can look like sure as usually it's kind of very late to the game and even like Windows Phone was pretty good when it first came out but you're like hang on a minute we've already got iPhones got android phones do we need another one again is it's that sort of thing so it's not that it's necessarily good or bad it may just be quite late yeah then you know on the flipside lots of businesses have an upgraded windows have still got windows XP in many cases of windows seven so maybe there's a huge market there from it you know fairly cheap corporate machines that are crying out for another version of Windows particular couple years time yeah yeah maybe okay fair enough yep so a Microsoft is getting a supertanker they're having to catch up with things where they go and eat amata says for questions so bear with me for questions okay question number one do you think sony has decided not to renew its eight-year 180 million pound sponsorship deal with fifa the football ruling body because they really care about the corruption allegations fifa or because they really need to cut costs good question yeah this is a good question wouldn't we like to know the answers like obviously we're not party tiw highlighting there's no wait there's no way for us to know I haven't see anything I've not seen any evidence that they have they've cut the sponsorship because of that reason maybe it played into it by mean it's true to say they do need to cut costs yeah a lot definitely so I mean maybe both these things have come together I mean they're there latex financials are pretty bad they again the comma many how many quarters in a row they've had to report phase appointing numbers strange smartphones is actually doing quite badly for them of course ago they were like Ray smartphones is going to save everything another like boo we've got it wrong we made too many models of the ones that don't want to make a bit of a right quite good though the experience the X there isn't yeah I can't like a Microsoft issue but nothing really wrong with it really good but people just buy all the stuff is too many other things that are really good and TVs and phones are kind of what they're writing down a lot and they're building up PlayStation division and the content division my movies and TV that's not looking really focusing on and I guess I just thought this was just an expense they didn't need yeah yeah it probably they probably thought when they thought you know this is a bit controversial well that makes that decision quite easy to get rid of it yeah maybe and of course but we don't know how long they've we're not parted out when they actually made this decision they may have just announced it but this could have been in the works for a year or more yo nose really that's Jan speaking of the content division of making film Sony is the new owner than you back of this steve jobs movie oh yeah so yeah there's director by Danny Boyle written by aaron sorkin potentially sorry Michael Fassbender is steve jobs and they've just bought it from universal oh and that was the one that did have all other because of people who was attached to that before it was Christian Bale so I just get me around they've sold it to you they sold it t to universal yeah yeah anyway you know what else deleting Breaking Bad and spider-man spider-man do you know what we need yeah isn't feel about how spider-man became spider I've always wondered about have always wanted and also how did Batman become Batman so much it's really nice that what's them to become back the great thing about spider-man is because it's the one comic book pro property that they own that Sony owns is that they're making so many spin-offs of it and there aren't many characters in it they're making spin-off the spidermans granddad that makes it was Spider Woman spider dog it's terrible but I'd a dog now I would pay to see that that sounds better than Jurassic world although probably not scary yeah as a question to files only gotten two questions to question do you think Google will eventually stop making Nexus devices once they've got a product in each size so from like the next five which is five inches up to the seven eight nine cited size ones are the tablets or will they remain in the marketplace showing other manufacturers how it should mostly be done yeah yeah I mean the thing is they kind of why they make the next is they do it to promote Android I guess they want to have a device that has pure android on it so when a new version comes out like lollipop there's a device that has straight up you know pure android on it and so yeah yeah why else I don't know I don't understand why they bother now I know why they bothered originally because they were pretty dissatisfied with what the people like Samsung HTC whoever it'll break the satisfied with all that stuff and what it was turning out like and they were also customizing and Android in whether they weren't very happy with first I had to make a phone to kind of test android on internally and so many people who thought why not release this phone that kind of made sense then now I don't know then I even that cheap now because they don't want to annoy the the people like Samsung and HTC you undercut their own kind of we were making chana in the device is any of their android stuff and yeah they're making son i don't i don't really understand it mmm anymore yeah google who knows who knows what they're thinking actually a lot of people had problems buying that you come which one it was the new Nexus 6 probably yes I need some stock issues without ya know even just that the process of going on google play and add it to your basket and then you press check out any when we like always gone and then it would pop up again and if that they're not really a consumer so they're not like a shot they're not very good at that stuff they need to be there just like a amazing search engine yeah so yeah it seems like a weird one like so many of those extra things they do you like why are they going to space either that's a bit of a hobby yeah yeah it knows the father I suppose yeah when you're making that much money why not very nice post last pose we should make a printer this is leading its questions re recommendations for a while sprinter for under hundred pounds we don't leave them specific but we can point the right direction if you set cnet for printer actually search through a printer then the top hit will be best printers now that does have us prices but it's a good place to start so that's that's our recommendation and finally question for who are your own personal favorite tech commentators being a developer I keep an eye on what Scott Hanselman is saying and your good selves obviously well obviously I mean that yeah I don't know there were any others to be honest I thought that one of those just how else do you need well quite yeah exactly anyway cool well thank you very much for all the feedback keep the feedback coming by emailing us at our email address seen at UK podcast at CBS I com or on Facebook and Twitter alright that's it for this week bit of a quick one this week but they absolutely in out Bosh job done more hasty absolutely well thank you Jason thank you to opportunity you won't ever see and we're off to watch jurassic park again have a girl see next week you
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